The murders are mostly Black on Black, unfortunately, and woeful that our government and more specifically police force are corrupt, cronyist and very misguided. Crime is frightfully out of hand, no matter who is doing it to who.

Then one cannot fail to see how the ANS has somehow left the Freedom Charter of 1955, favour of a more racist and selectively only towards Black people policy, as seen with Manyi’s talk in all of the first part of 2011.

And that’s severely wrong, Coloured people of the Cape for instance as it stands (who are the descendants [DNA shows them to the highest from of DNA of the Khoi] of the original people of Southern Africa – the Khoi people – before the Black or White people arrived) and who were also persecuted in Apartheid are getting second pick of the jobs (They’re the highest unemployed amongst all and the highest they’ve ever been). Black people are encouraged to move in to have first pick of the jobs over Coloured people, they also in the Western Cape get 70% of all the educational grants, and get privilege to all the government housing being built. Hence Coloured people don’t vote ANC.

Indians are also getting it in the neck, just investigate it a little. Racism by Black people in South Africa is very openly discussed. And it’s terribly sad it’s going back to that.

Then there is the trouble of people still living in squalor, well after Apartheid ended. And so many other issues, it makes living in South Africa a very tense place. There are tremendous issues with MANY government leaders who have all sorts of corruption issues. I SINCERELY hope that democratically we get rid of all these issues, as so much more needs to get done to sort South Africa out.

Facts like more than one tenth of White South Africans live as squatters as well, when all is supported towards one ethnicity. What we need is a system of equality for all.

And racism is very clear from our leadership within the ANC, we sincerely hope it comes to an end. We have educated Black middle classes who feel very differently as it’s been years later.

By the way you don’t seem to have a come back for any of my points on Health minister of the ANC, Mantombazana Tshabalala-Msimang or Winnie Mandela or is defining murder only based on colour?

Get over your white guilt!

Spoken like a true ANC supporter!

YOU said: Firstly he picks out 1 or 2 “good” things that aparthied did for the black majority like a decent hospital, he forgets the shacks with no water or electricity that surrounded that hospital. He also forgets the schools around “one of the most sophisticated hospitals in the Southern hemisphere”, where black people were given only a basic education because the aparthied government said they’d never need a better education.

they still have no water and still have no electricity after being promised it by the ANC. As for basic education lets not forget they burnt down their own schools!!!

YOU said: As for the murders and rapes that he’d like everyone to believe is happening to all whites, what a load of rubbish! I have a family of over 100 close relatives in South Africa, and not one has ever been murdered or raped, sure we’ve had stuff stolen from us, but who in the modern world where there are a minority of rich or middle class and a majority of poor people hasn’t had stuff stolen ?

Well, congratulations to your family! My family have all been attacked or know someone that has been attacked. If you were more informed and less ignorant you would know the crime figures speak for themselves as released by the SAP. Ah let me think….Thailand is a good example to the second part of your question. Did you sit and count all your relatives to make sure you had the right number?

YOU said:The fact is that when you spend centuries brutalising a nation based on their skin colour, you deny them an education and a role in the economy, how can you expect no violent crime or corruption ????

I guess that makes it all alright- Europe managed to get it right after the industrial revolution- sorry, your reasoning only justifies the means.

YOU said: The 20 000 people murdered every year is also misleading, as over 80% of these murders are committed by people the victims knew, now that tells you that our society is traumatised and violent, a legacy of Aparthied’s cruel propaganda war not against an enemy, but against it’s own people, black and white.

What absolute crap! The justification that ” murders are committed by people the victims knew” only applies to most civilized societies eg: Holland or America, where the larger portion of murders are related to domestic violence. According to a report by the SA department of security studies majority of the crimes are related to opportunism as we see with the amount of farmers being murdered. The attacks on whites can be especially brutal and can end up in the victim being tortured by having boiling water poured over them….raped and murdered, the blacks this is often not the case- it is opportunism. This is all too common in attacks on farms and in residential areas.

YOU said:@chase abrahams get real, stop defending our past, we white people were wrong, but we also made it right, our black brothers were hard done by, but they forgave, all round this is nothing short of a miracle..

You keep telling yourself that- good luck living in your little play play world. Give my regards to Zuma