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Think about this: to date, only three countries have been able to put a man merely in Earth orbit – the United States, Russia, and China. That speaks to how difficult it is just to get into orbit. Next, consider how far away the moon is from the Earth: 240,000 miles. Since the alleged moon landings, no country even claims to have gone more than 400 miles from Earth and that was in the Space Shuttle. The International Space Station orbits at 200 miles above Earth. There is a big difference between 240,000 miles and 400 miles. Why can’t anyone make it more than 400 miles from Earth today if we could make a 480,000 mile round trip in 1969?

NASA further asserts that three men were loaded into a rocket, flew 240,000 miles to the moon and then achieved lunar orbit. They say the spacecraft separated and two astronauts flew 60 miles to the surface of the moon, in a vacuum and 1/6 Earth gravity. They then hung out on the moon for up to three days in 250 degree heat, hit golf balls, rode a moon buggy — but what powered their life support and equipment? They say BATTERIES.

They then supposedly blasted off the surface of the moon, docked with the third man going around the moon at over 4000 miles per hour, and made it 240,000 miles back to Earth. They re-entered Earth’s atmosphere going 25,000 mph, but parachutes assured a safe landing in the ocean.

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  • Paul

    By far this is the worst excuse for a documentary on this entire site. Absolute garbage.

    • An open mind

      This is definitely thought provoking. After watching, I have to say that the other comments on here sound pretty closed-minded. True the documentary is not very well made. Not a lot of scientific arguments, but some good common sense ones. And let’s face it, the astronauts act like they’re lying. Sorry. But they do.

      Oh, and Buck, there’s a big difference between orbiting for 240,000 miles and going 240,000 miles away from the Earth’s gravity.

      • Plaguewatcher

        here it goes again! “ooh it’s too hard! we could never have done it!”
        yu know what is even harder? getting thousands of people to take part in a secret and have none of them ever come out about it.
        Do you care about evidence? Please refute the following
        http://www.braeunig.us/space/hoax-jw.htm
        http://homepages.wmich.edu/~korista/moonhoax2.html
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wym04J_3Ls0
        oh and if you do? please le me know how your specialized knowledge of whatever comes into play
        It is time to leave ignorance behind.

        • http://heykante.com skantea

          “yu know what is even harder? getting thousands of people to take part in a secret and have none of them ever come out about it.”

          It’s called Billions of dollars, murder, and straight up mind control.
          There’s way more psychological conditioning in the military than most of us can imagine.

          And for those of you who think we’ll never know the truth, we will. And it won’t take fifty years before the cracks start to show like the Pearl Harbor set up did.
          I bet this story falls apart for the laymen in less than five years.

          • http://heykante.com skantea

            That’s not as hard as you want to believe.
            Sure the people you know could never keep a secret like that, but if you believed it was issue of national security, and that there is a higher reason than the public’s right to know (military brain washing) you just might keep your mouth shut.

      • AnarchoRationalist

        This is a pretty reasonable comment to make, I hope it’s treated seriously.

        Proving that the trips to the moon are possible is different than proving that they actually occurred. I think anyone evaluating the empirical evidence for the moon missions would hold a similar level of incredulity as with “bigfoot”. Where’s the body?

        With the government involved, the facts are simply too easily falsifiable, we just can’t trust the data.

        • Audun Wilhelmsen

          Where’s the body? Well, among other things, they put a reflector on the moon, which can be detected with a sufficiently powerful laser/detector. It could have been put there by other means, but probably not.

          I suggest you check out Penn & Teller Bullshit’s and Mythbusters’ episodes on the moon landing. At the very least the Mythbusters episode illustrates that there’s nothing wrong with the footage from the moon surface. They also discover how hard it actually is to fake low gravity (slowing down footage is not enough).

          The Apollo conspiracy theories are honestly one of the most retarded out there.

          • Z:N

            This is NOT the case.

            Laser pulses can be reflected from the moon just by hitting it. This was done as early as 1962:
            “The first successful tests were carried out in 1962 when a team from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology succeeded in observing reflected laser pulses using a laser with a millisecond pulse length. Similar measurements were obtained later the same year by a Soviet team at the Crimean Astrophysical Observatory using a Q-switched ruby laser.”
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment

            Radio reflections from the moon were first detected in 1946, and in the late 50s there was plans for using the moon as a reflector of radio waves for transoceanic communication:
            http://www.nitehawk.com/rasmit/eme_history1.pdf

            When it comes to the difficulties in faking the gravity on the moon, which myth-busters supposedly “busted”, it is to say that they cheated. First they tried slow-motion, then wires, but they never combined the two methods. This would have resulted in an almost identical effect as the faked apollo images:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23BIb_PMJ4M&feature=related
            and:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5ajIVmGiQE
            (The scenes with Adam Savage from Mythbusters are in part 2 & 3)

            By the way, take a look at this clip:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUE

            Z:N

    • jay

      i am inclined to agree. total crap.

      • Guest

        Looking at the comments, it looks like the controversy will continue.  I think there are unresolved issues on both sides, for instance :

        Radio telescopes in Australia had to relay radio transmissions for some of the time, due to the earths rotation obviously.  It seems unlikely 100’s of pounds of moon rock could be acquired from meteors.  And recently released NASA images of the moon, show faint images of the landing sites of Apollo missions, and the remains of the lunar landers.

        But, the flip side of the coin, Each of the lunar landers 4 batteries was 415ah, and Nasa claim they weighed 61kg each.  Apart from the massive weight of 4 batteries, this barely seems enough power for 3 days on the moon.  Battery technology was far worse than today, there is at least a 20% loss of energy from stored batteries, with a good degree of uncertainty as to how such batteries would cope in the freezing cold of space, and the extreme heat on the moon, not to mention being thrown around in a rocket and in space.  Also, the lunar modules batteries were apparently in the lower section, ie: the section left on the moon, so i am assuming the module which left the moon to dock with the command module, had no power other than its single rocket ?

        The luner module does not seem capable of supporting 2 men on the surface of the moon for several days, the crews cabin seems ridiculously too small.  The lunar module minus crew is given as over 10 tons, which it would needed to have been.  No matter how you cut it, thats a heavy object to land on an object you have never landed on before, and covered in crators and never been trained for, and have only a small window of opportunity to complete such a task, even in one sixth gravity.  If it were done, then it was done many times, by many pilots, first time and faultlessly.

        Nasa cannot get there current space probe orbiting the moon, low enough to take detailed surface pictures, even with vastly improved cameras today, which does make you wonder, its a fair way down to the moons surface for sure.

        There are many unanswered questions, and until they are adequately answered, this debate will continue to rage on.  I personally believe they did land on the moon, but i would still welcome a lot more information as to how this magnificent feat was achieved, especially considering only analogue and basic switches were available.  I mean automobiles have only in the last 15 years become relatively reliable.

        Landing on the moon was a huge and costly effort, this effort is only shadowed by the lack of technology availale at the time.  People have a right to ask in a ‘nice’ way, how the people involved in this achieved it.

      • Guest

        Looking at the comments, it looks like the controversy will continue.  I think there are unresolved issues on both sides, for instance :

        Radio telescopes in Australia had to relay radio transmissions for some of the time, due to the earths rotation obviously.  It seems unlikely 100’s of pounds of moon rock could be acquired from meteors.  And recently released NASA images of the moon, show faint images of the landing sites of Apollo missions, and the remains of the lunar landers.

        But, the flip side of the coin, Each of the lunar landers 4 batteries was 415ah, and Nasa claim they weighed 61kg each.  Apart from the massive weight of 4 batteries, this barely seems enough power for 3 days on the moon.  Battery technology was far worse than today, there is at least a 20% loss of energy from stored batteries, with a good degree of uncertainty as to how such batteries would cope in the freezing cold of space, and the extreme heat on the moon, not to mention being thrown around in a rocket and in space.  Also, the lunar modules batteries were apparently in the lower section, ie: the section left on the moon, so i am assuming the module which left the moon to dock with the command module, had no power other than its single rocket ?

        The luner module does not seem capable of supporting 2 men on the surface of the moon for several days, the crews cabin seems ridiculously too small.  The lunar module minus crew is given as over 10 tons, which it would needed to have been.  No matter how you cut it, thats a heavy object to land on an object you have never landed on before, and covered in crators and never been trained for, and have only a small window of opportunity to complete such a task, even in one sixth gravity.  If it were done, then it was done many times, by many pilots, first time and faultlessly.

        Nasa cannot get there current space probe orbiting the moon, low enough to take detailed surface pictures, even with vastly improved cameras today, which does make you wonder, its a fair way down to the moons surface for sure.

        There are many unanswered questions, and until they are adequately answered, this debate will continue to rage on.  I personally believe they did land on the moon, but i would still welcome a lot more information as to how this magnificent feat was achieved, especially considering only analogue and basic switches were available.  I mean automobiles have only in the last 15 years become relatively reliable.

        Landing on the moon was a huge and costly effort, this effort is only shadowed by the lack of technology availale at the time.  People have a right to ask in a ‘nice’ way, how the people involved in this achieved it.

  • Anonymous

    HAHAHAHA OH WOW

    • VidMon

      I think this is an good documentary. But that is propably because I’m not American.

      • Stovo

        Vidmon, that you think this is a good documentary is nothing to do with your nationality, rather that it indicates you are of below average intellect and gullible to lies & the crudest distortions of the truth.

      • Mel

        They sure dont like being misled. Or admitting they were fooled. I have huge sympathy for them though.. here are some of the most loyal people around and all thier government does is lie to them. Repeatedly. About everything. I’d want to save face too..

  • Buck

    I could only watch a couple minutes and what a load of absolute crap.

    The synopsis is the dumbest thing I’ve seen on this site. Yes the moon is half a million miles round-trip.

    How many miles do you think other missions go when they orbit the Earth several times? The Earth’s equatorial circumference is 24,000 miles.

    This is an epic FAIL.

    • Evan

      Keep in mind, that when you are in orbit you really don’t use any fuel to maneuver. You are in orbit, and essentially going to stay put, albeit in a giant circle around the Earth.

      • max jones

        ya you do use fuel to maneuver. maneuvering is different from station keeping. the ISS and every incarnation before it have had to arrest decaying orbits using rockets of one sort or other.

  • marsboy

    haha i love this stuff because it takes 2 minutes to look their claims up on wikipedia to prove them wrong.
    just look for “Moon landing conspiracy theories” will learn a lot more.

    + it is insulting to dedicate the crap to people that died. in the persuit of the space programm.

    • laqadasickal

      haven’t watched the video, and i’m not going to…while wikipedia is a nice jumping off point for quick info, it is by no means an accredited source of peer reviewed (peer as in PhD knowledge of the subject) information

    • http://www.iamthewitness.com Bob Dobalina

      Idiot. Who told you wikipedia is the truth???

    • jesus

      Are you the type that believes Osama Bin Laden was responsable for 9/11?
      lol. wake up cuzzy.

      Though………….ignorance is bliss 😉

      • jesus

        coz wikipedea said so!!!!!!!
        haha

  • anyone intelligent

    at the end of part 2 of 7 it states that the module left the moons surface and contacted the command module which was orbiting at 4,000 miles an hour. Didn’t he state that the traveling speed between earth and the moon was 4,000? I doubt the traveling speed and the orbiting speed was the same.

    This documentary has flaws throughout the entire thing. poorly made.

    • max jones

      if i recall the speed en-route to the moon was around 30,000 mph.

  • Derrick

    I actually yelled out loudly in rage when within the first five minutes he paraphrases that since Bill Clinton mentioned in a paragraph in his autobiography that he doubts they went to the moon, that we should all also think that way. This is terribly biased and poorly made.

    • max jones

      clinton does not doubt we went to the moon. he completely distorts that quote.

  • willem

    “Think about this: to date, only three countries have been able to put a man merely in Earth orbit – the United States, Russia, and China. That speaks to how difficult it is just to get into orbit.”

    No, it’s not a technical problem, but a money problem. If you want to perform scientific experiments in space it’s just much cheaper to hire room on a spaceshuttle. The technical problems of today is how to put men on Mars in a cost efficient way. How can we terraform Mars quickly?

  • narvell

    what a bunch of crap. only a true American idiot would actually believe someone went to the moon. you mean to tell me, that you had the technology to send a man 240,000 miles away to the moon and back in the 60’s, but you don’t have the technology in 2010 to stop an oil leak 5,ooo feet under the ocean. give me a freakin break. this country is full of it!

    • Chas Brusch

      Narvell you are a classic example of the type of moron who should be kept in a small, dark padded room away from the rest of the population

    • Docu fan

      “.. this country is full of it ..”

      What country? This is the WORLD wide web.

      Idiot.

      • Bevvie

        Hehe.

    • TheNail

      I notice Narvell didn’t divulge where he’s from. Probably for fear they might find out he’s the smartest guy there.

    • Stovo

      narvell

      You are an idiot of the highest order: travelling to the moon is a completely different subject than stopping an oil leak.

      That you link the two indicates that you should not be allowed to vote.

      You are a danger to society.

    • Kenneth Webb

      “American idiot”

      A fine example of an oxymoron.

    • http://heykante.com skantea

      There’s no way we had the technology to do this.
      WE can even keep our computers from crashing.
      Also, how big was 2 gig hard drive (or the equivalent) back then? The size of a refrigerator?
      And if went half way around THIS planet, I would have tons of photographs and video to document it. And please don’t tell me we could pull of a technical marvel of that magnitude but couldn’t get pics.

      • max jones

        they didn’t use hard drives.

      • max jones

        you have a remarkable lack of knowledge. there are plenty of pictures. if you recall or know anything about it you’d know the lunar modules computer crashed twice on apollo 11’s decent. but the main computers… named armstrong and aldrin piloted the LM over a boulder field and crater before touching down.

    • svaaron

      would you mind telling us where you come from narvell so we can blindly judge your character by the actions of your country’s government and media?

  • Zenqi

    This is a very interesting documentary; very well presented arguments, very convincing. I would agree accept for one important piece of evidence that was not mentioned: the mirrors.

    Ringed by footprints, sitting in the moondust, lies a 2-foot wide panel studded with 100 mirrors pointing at Earth: the “lunar laser ranging retroreflector array.” Apollo 11 astronauts Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong put it there on July 21, 1969, about an hour before the end of their final moonwalk. Thirty-five years later, it’s the only Apollo science experiment still running.

    The mirrors were left of the surface of the moon so we, down on Earth, could shoot lasers at them and help understand the distance between the Earth and the moon in a very precise way.

    Here’s how it works: A laser pulse shoots out of a telescope on Earth, crosses the Earth-moon divide, and hits the array. Because the mirrors are “corner-cube reflectors,” they send the pulse straight back where it came from. Back on Earth, telescopes intercept the returning pulse.

    The round-trip travel time pinpoints the moon’s distance with staggering precision: better than a few centimeters out of 385,000 km, typically.

    Targeting the mirrors and catching their faint reflections is a challenge, but astronomers have been doing it for 35 years. A key observing site is the McDonald Observatory in Texas where a 0.7 meter telescope regularly pings reflectors in the Sea of Tranquility (Apollo 11), at Fra Mauro (Apollo 14) and Hadley Rille (Apollo 15), and, sometimes, in the Sea of Serenity. There’s a set of mirrors there onboard the parked Soviet Lunokhud 2 moon rover–maybe the coolest-looking robot ever built.

    • Reply to Zenqi

      “Here’s how it works” WTF?!? As you stated that “This is a very interesting documentary; very well presented arguments, very convincing” is proof that you have not the slightest idea about aeronautic engineering.

      You better stick to trying to work out how Lego works, which will probably be a lifetime’s study for you.

      • Zenqi

        Do you speak to your friends in such insulting ways or do you reserve it for anonymity?

        • Reply to Zenqi

          I speak to morons in the way they deserve

          • Zenqi

            Wow.

            I hope that you find inner peace someday.

  • Stovo

    Utter bollocks

  • Alex

    There will always be two sides of this subject: Those that believe and those that don’t

    Blows my mind how debated this is and always will be. Almost just as debated as religions. God speed indeed.

  • David Aslanian

    I was so happy when Buzz punched this douche! What a waste of a life!!

    • dexter mayhem

      Hahaha – so this is the fkwit Buzz punched in the head. Hilarious. Nice one, Buzz. Should’ve given him the left hook as well.

  • http://Documentaryheaven Twotroo2bgood

    Telling Americans the moon landing was a hoax is akin to telling 350,000,000 kids Santa Claus doesn’t exist.

    You better run fast.

  • Mixxie

    This video is bullshit, but you are being insular to reference your comment to Americans.

  • bewlaybrutha

    That’s not what Clinton meant. At all.

  • bewlaybrutha

    You idiots. If you can escape earth orbit you can travel forever. The 200 mile argument is absurd.

  • ariel_ro

    It’s funny to see some narrow-minded comments here.
    I accept that it would be a huge problem to conceal such a hoax so that’s why I take into account its possibility.
    But also, there are some questionable facts. I’d say that the simple lack of out of earth orbit missions from ANY power of the world is intriguing.

    Keep your mind opened to possibilities when there are.

  • Tomo

    This is a comedy …isn’t it?

  • colin ham

    Americans put people on the moon and that is a fact. i believe that it was the single greatest achievement that human beings have ever achieved. people over look that in order to fake a moon landing, you would need set designers, camera men, the whole hueston crew, the astronauts etc.. your looking at 1000s of people trying to keep a secret, it would have surely come out by now. and it has been proved that americans where on the moon by china, russia and india, this fact was deliberately left out, using out of orbit telescopes (china, russia and india) have these, the american flag, various rovers and debrius left behind on the moon can be seen !!

  • Gregg

    And don’t forget the Russians. If the moon landing was a hoax, they would have blown the whistle on NASA. So now the conspiricy is global.

    • http://heykante.com skantea

      They did blow the whistle, they told the Russian public it was fake.
      And if they were to walk up to your door and tell you personally you still wouldn’t believe it.

  • http://heykante.com skantea

    Bottom line folks there doesn’t need to be a conspiracy if it happened NASA has the proof.
    But here’s what I’m thinking; Since we’re going back in 2018 all we have to do is wait and see if there is a big discussion about shielding.
    If the new rockets aren’t twice as thick then it happened, if they are…well…then Nixon lied to us (ahem).

    • svaaron

      The Constellation mission to return to Moon was cancelled months ago because of budget cuts brought on by the virtual failure of the global economy.

      • http://heykante.com skantea

        Okay then we’ll just wait till the Chinese and the Russians finally figure it out (after 40+ years of trying) and study their efforts in 2025 when they make the attempt.

  • svaaron

    The creators of this documentary seem to have gotten themselves so wrapped up in trying to out-smart NASA scientists and engineers that they didn’t concider that space exploration and Moonshot missions were almost entirely motivated by the politics of the time. It’s the only time in the history of the American space program that the government has made their funding a priority. In fact, NASA was created for the specific purpose of trumping the Soviet space program. The goal was to beat the USSR to the Moon, and once it was accomplished, NASA funding was gradually cut to the barely existent level it’s at now. Why? Because politics today have nothing to do with the Moon or space exploration/”conquest”. Why don’t we go back to the moon? Because all of the governments money (tax payer dollars) are being spent in the country’s two wars and on trying to repair the dwindling economy. If Osama bin Laden, a massive pocket of oil, and the answer to health care reform were on the Moon, American astronauts would be too…

    • Zenqi

      I’m unwilling to put any of my money towards space exploration. Spewing our DNA beyond this planet is sure to contaminate whatever it touches.

      • max jones

        that is one of the stupidest comments i’ve ever seen. what greater purpose could we find for ourselves than to take life from the earth and spread it to any environment that we can get it to take root.

        what higher purpose could we find than to take the rubble floating around out there between the planets and turn it into living habitats… so that the precious dna from the blue planet earth can survive until the end of time.

        space activists are environmentalist who understand that if we stay on earth we kill mom. if we move ourselves to places where our technology doesn’t kill the earths biosphere then we have arrived. we will have become a grown up species.

  • bob

    Even though I do not trust our government AT ALL!!!! This documentery is a load of crap. For whatever idot said that to stay in earth orbit it does not take fuel, do some research my friend the orbiter and the ISS have to do an Ohlms burn every 2.5 hours to stay in orbit and this includes every satilite! You might as why? The reason is because microgravity is caused by the orbital pattern the reason they foat is because they are falling around the earth! Whatever idot said that is is because of the lack of gravity needs to fall in A hole! if their is no gravity then how is their earth orbit!?!?!? Hello people wake up and do research! “It would have been more difficult to fake the mission to the moon than actually go to the moon” – Neal Armstrong

    • http://heykante.com skantea

      On the other hand, all the future lunar exploration designs do feature extra thick shielding.
      We’ll see what they build next. That will be the proof.

  • http://heykante.com skantea

    Hey, all you believers, how come you can’t have this discussion without getting an attitude. People are curious. It’s not our fault it’s your treasured memory.
    You getting mad and insulting just hurts your argument because you’re too emotionally involved.
    In order for me to believe I’m going to need for japan or russia to go and shoot full high res video of every second.
    Like I would think we could have done the other six times.
    I mean really, why not constant video (exterior and interior)? Wouldn’t that have been the easiest part of the engineering?

    • max jones

      you want to know why? this is why… your comment is so basically flawed that it really is stupid. first, there was no hi res video. if you want good pictures you used big bulky cameras that weighed a lot and you had to take film to put in it. you had to protect the film from radiation that would ruin it. every ounce on those trips was a precious commodity. i’m sorry but the comments are clueless thats why they get dumbfucked.

  • http://heykante.com skantea

    Can they use the Hubble?

  • fuckgreece

    Hilarious stupid ass fucking americans have their heads up their ass. So the Americans which at the time their space technology was 20 years behind that of the Russians, and who had far less experience and hours in space sent People on the Moon Past the Deadly Van Allen Radiation belt and brought them back safe. And they did all this with a computer who had the memory and capabilities of a digital hand watch. Fucking Hilarious. The documentary might be a little retarded but still the fact still remains. Its been close to 70 years why havent they gone back? Nasa has the funds and the technological capabilities why havent visited the Moon again. Why is that? Because you are fucking lairs, manipulators, propaganda spreading deceiving cock suckers.

    • matt

      You are an idiot of the highest degree. No wonder America is the greatest nation to ever exist… Other countries are full of people like u. Americans don’t hate the world like the world hates Americans. Get over your jealousy, and leave the common American out of your argument. Plus learn grammar.. I hope to god english is not your first language.

      • fuckgreece

        you keep believing that you dumb shit. Me Jealous? Fucking stupid ass fucking American. Who the fuck in their right mind would be Jealous of fucking Mc donalds eating fat stupid hillbillies. Get your head out of your ass you fucking ignorant american. I speak 3 languages motherfucker how many languages do you speak uh? What I said are pure facts? Explain the VAn allen radiation belts, explain how you were more advanced than the Russians?

    • svaaron

      your argument is about as empty as my ass after i have beer shits

      • fuckgreece

        You go breed with your family members you fucking fat hillbilly fuck. Typical of you I presented you your own facts you got nothing to say so you try to insult. How the fuck did a Mcdonalds eating beer drinking lazy american sent a man to the moon? uh? Or was it the Jew German scientists and engineers? Fuck you stupid ass fucking american

        • Bevvie

          “Bitter? Table for one.”

    • max jones

      “So the Americans which at the time their space technology was 20 years behind that
      of the Russians”

      that statement is just not accurate. i’m a fan of the russian space program. we start from scratch every time and the russians improve on the same design. the two space programs were different. the russian program was built around control from the ground. the american program was built around pilots flying spacecraft.

      “who had far less experience and hours in space sent People on the Moon”

      not at the time of the moon landing. the statement is inaccurate.

      “Past the Deadly Van Allen Radiation belt and brought them back safe.”

      Van Allen retracted his statements. He knew he was wrong.

      “And they did all this with a computer who had the memory and capabilities of a digital hand watch.”

      the onboard computers were mostly backups. the computers were room size and located at NASA and use the uplink to transmit data to the spacecraft.

      they had a device called an inertial guidance system that precisely measure every movement of the spacecraft and told them where they were. the russians didn’t have an inertial guidance system. they also checked to make sure the inertial guidance system was accurate with a good old sextant.

      if you recall the computer handling the radar on board apollo 11 did crash twice. but they were backed up by the pilots who took control and landed. you just don’t know what you are talking about.

      “Its been close to 70 years why havent they gone back? Nasa has the funds and the technological capabilities why havent visited the Moon again.”

      because we built the space shuttle. we were a major component of the ISS. which was pretty fucking expensive. in america we have a government that tells nasa what to spend money on. that government works pretty well when its not undermined by people like the neocons… bush and company that spent all the money on war.

      but when its work right… its what makes america better. during those times we kick your punk ass with innovation and science. you couldn’t have gone to the moon. you’re right. you don’t have the right stuff. fuck you.

  • NYCityCop9

    This is the fundamental problem with our “America the Great”, we’re inherently naive to trusting what our government states as being true. Even today as we face immanent bankruptcy, we misplace our faith in a gov’t that is spending billions on a war based on weapons of mass destruction. The bottom line folks is that we’ll pretty much believe anything those in power say even when our own common sense tells us not to. You don’t think we’re on the bring of becoming a third world country? Wake up!! I’m currently stationed in Detroit and I’d be hard pressed to tell you it looks any different than Cambodia, and this is just one example of the state of America. From who shot JFK to why in the hell a building three blocks away fell demolition-style, you guys will believe anything!

    We’re talking about a 480,000mile return trip here folks in 1969! Are you kidding me?!? You might as well say Papa Smurf was flying and Elvis was in the cargo hold as its about as logical as the entire hoax. Man you guys are dummies if you can’t even admit that this has a stitch of plausibility to it. Albeit poorly made, its still rings some certain points of merit that a grade school mentality should be able to raise questions on.

    Sincerely yours,
    Buzz Armstrong

    • Richie

      I sincerely hope you are not a police officer.

      Your appalling standard of spelling & grammar, and your ignorant & bigoted views indicate someone who is not fit to serve in uniform.

      If you are in the force, than you are a disgrace.

      • NYCityCop9

        First off, the use of my spelling and grammar are spot on with the exception of the word bring, which should have read “brink”. And for the record, I’m not “in” the force I’m “on” the force. Well done Yoda.

        Secondly, not only am I currently serving high ranking police officer, I’m also one of 113 in American military history to have the distinguished honor to be both a Green Beret and a Navy Seal. So please, lets not question credentials.

        So Richie, if one such as myself, who’s been made privy to highly clandestine missions in which I’ve participated in, is both arrogant and bigoted as you say, then where exactly does that leave you?

        Please don’t speak in an arena in which you know little about.

        • Micky Rio

          “Secondly, not only am I currently serving high ranking police officer, I’m also one of 113 in American military history to have the distinguished honor to be both a Green Beret and a Navy Seal. So please, lets not question credentials.” Ha Ha Ha … and I am Rambo. Why not use a ‘Medal Of Honor’ video game to live out your fantasy rather than Documentary Heaven?

          Re. your claim of “First off, the use of my spelling and grammar are spot on..” Well, try checking the punctuation in “Albeit poorly made, its still rings some certain points of merit that a grade school mentality should be able to raise questions on.”

          And considering the idiotic comment about Papa Smurf, Elvis and a ‘hoax’ should you be a police officer or have been a Green Beret or a Navy Seal (yeah, right … in your dreams) then are are a disgrace.

          • NYCityCop9

            It’s embarrassing how simple-minded my fellow Americans are. Micky Rio, you make an amoeba look like a complex organism. To think I’ve fought wars on your behalf of ignorant Americans such as yourself. Oh well, at least I’ve since seen the light.

            As for the credentials to which you insist I’ve dreamed up, anytime you want to engage in an intelligent militaristic conversation (like your capable), please let me know and we’ll host an online discussion on the matter. Until then, keep acting like a stereotypical American and attract ridicule from all conceivable angles.

            Peace out!

      • Bevvie

        “If you are in the force, than you are a disgrace.”

        “than”?? If you’re going to post about the poor grammar of another, you really should check your own first, Ritchie.

        • Repy to Bevvie

          Heh Bevvie stop being a smart ass, it’s obvious to anyone with at least half a brain that it was a typographical error.

    • Joel K. Harper

      “I’m currently stationed in Detroit and I’d be hard pressed to tell you it looks any different than Cambodia,”

      Quite agree. Having recently visited Cambodia I can advise that the people are polite, respectful & hospitable and the enironment is clean & picturesque .. all quite the reverse to Detroit.

      • NYCityCop9

        Thanks for your reply. I totally agree with your comment on Cambodia and the hospitality to which you refer. Cambodians are good people who are eager to learn about those who visit their country, and my experience is similar to yours. I forgot to mention these acts of kindness in my original post and thank you for pointing this out.

        • Joel K. Harper

          Then you will know it is wholly insulting and inaccurate to compare Detroit to Cambodia. There is so very little similarity. Cambodia is a beautiful, rural country populated by gentle, polite and kind people. Detroit is a wasteland of a city populated by a rude, selfish and aggresive people.

          The only similarity I can see is that both Cambodia and Detroit have suffered because of the actions of Americans. The difference though is that Detroit was screwed by Americans themselves, whereas Cambodia was decimated by the criminal activites of a foreign power:- carpet bombing instigated by Nixon & kissinger in the early 1970s, this left a power vacuum that was exploited by the Khmer Rouge, a genocidal regime that was supported by the Americans.

          • J. Williams

            Gotta agree that NYCityCop9 is a joke. He should go back to playing with GI Joe rather than posting his fantasies on-line.

  • Ralph Samson

    Even without further research, the logical and reasonable arguments regarding the disproval of an alleged moon landing speak for themselves.

    If a moon landing took place there would be solid answers from those who alleged that it did – however the answers do not add up.

    No moon landing took place – period!

  • Reply to Matt

    1.) “No wonder America is the greatest nation to ever exist.” That beyond is laughable.

    2.) “Americans don’t hate the world like the world hates Americans.” America may not hate other countries but it certainly bombs them, invades them, blackmails them, destabilises them and over throws their governments.

    3.) “Americans don’t hate the world like the world hates Americans.” Ask you self why so many people hate America. (clues: it is nothing to do with jealousy but is everthing to do with that summarised in 3. above.)

    4.) “Plus learn grammar.” Incredible! Improve the standard of your own grammar before preaching to others.

  • PRN

    All of you who don’t believe that MANKIND landed on moon, I think you should go back to the caves or to your religions!

  • Micky Rio

    “It’s embarrassing how simple-minded my fellow Americans are.” I am not American, and your assumption that I am is highly suggestive of a narrow-minded & parochial outlook.

    “.. you make an amoeba look like a complex organism.” Why? Why do you need to resort to puerile insults? And considering I am using a PC I am clearly more sophisticated than an amoeba.

    “To think I’ve fought wars on your behalf of ignorant Americans such as yourself.” No you didn’t as I am not American. And what wars do you claim to have fought in? Would these be one in which Americans bombed & invaded countries in which they had no right to be in, killed innocent civilians & committed war crimes? Oh, of course not because you’re a fantasist and keyboard warrior.

    “Until then, keep acting like a stereotypical American ..” Again I am not an American, and again such a statement is rather indicative of insularity.

    ” .. attract ridicule from all conceivable angles.” It is you who will attract ridicule because you’re a fake. Also, actual soldiers, especially those who have been in the special forces, do not use their service to bolster either their egos or weak arguments .. to do so would be considered offensive and insulting.

    • http://huh.aol.com ryan

      how many times you going to point out you’re not an American? i don’t get this forum.. hardly anyone is trying refute this video with scientific or logical arguments.. it’s just bashing the video, each other, and americans in general. then all this ‘omg ur grammur is soooo bad’.. seriously? are you all english teachers? seems everyone is also an expert in the field of space exploration as well.. yeah, the video made some good points.. then again, this is a pretty big issue to cover up with some political lie (though that is good motivation to do so). i gotta say, i do find it pretty funny that none of the astronauts on Apollo 11 were willing to swear on a bible that their trip to the moon was authentic. so who wants to bash my comment because i didn’t bother to use capital letters? am i an idiot because i wanted to know what the author of this films opinions were? or would i be smarter in remaining ignorant and just bashing everyone who doesn’t believe in what i do?

  • fuckgreece

    Fucking Ignorant Americans. You see Americans are like sheep they will believe any fucking stupid bullshit propaganda their government feeds to them. Thats why the system works so flawlessly. Americans got to be the stupidest most ignorant people on the planet. I wonder why Nasa said that they lost the original Moon landing Tape. The only place where the americans go is to McDonald’s to get a double whopper fries and a large cola! I wonder if they are going to open a McDonalds on the Moon so next time they go there the astronauts can have a happy meal! LOL

    • black_alex98

      You are absoutly right in every aspect, so why the hell arent you called FuckAmerica?

  • DJ

    I am an American and it is true, most Americans are blind ignorant sheep who believe everything a politician says. Even though the politician generally does not give a flying fuck about the public, all he cares about is making money along with the big corporations who run the country. For all those who don’t even stop to question the overwhelming evidence that a man never landed on the moon, it figures . Most of these idiots are people who also think America has come up with all of man’s great inventions which is also a sham. Most of these idiots probably also believe this land was blessed for them instead of the truth that a bunch of European pirates in search of treasure rape, pillaged, and murdered several Million Indians who actually gave two shits about the land they live on. There is a reason it is called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it. America is no longer a beautiful country, it is a cesspool of fat, ignorant beasts who think they are civilized. We have more private prisoners with the largest incarceration rate and we continually build weapons to sell to both sides of a war. There is a major difference in traveling 400 miles while still in Earth’s orbit and going through the Van Allen Radiation belts and arriving 240,000 miles away from the Earth. There is also a reason why people actually believe we went to the moon and it is because the owners (large corporations) of the country do not want intelligent critical thinkers who question. They want obedient workers (AKA slaves) who will believe every bit of propaganda they get fed and keep asking for more. If anyone actually looked at world politics, environmental resources, and the mass devastation that humans have caused, the truth becomes more clear to those who want to know the truth. As for the rest, ignorance is bliss and they would rather believe everything their television set tells them which is CONSUME, CONSUME, and CONSUME MORE. America much like the Roman Empire will fall, except America will take every last human with it causing the 6th mass extinction.

    • fuckgreece

      You had me here “There is a reason it is called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it. ” LOL RESPECT!

    • Schumiester

      Very well said & very well written DJ, personnally the film raises enough questions with me to sow a seed of doubt about the moon landings, I was’nt there to witness it with my own eyes but reading some of the IT DID HAPPEN comments, they must have been present in person on the moon to witness & cheer on the heroic astronauts. I am a Scot’s man living & working in the states currently & concur 100% with your analogy of your home country & it’s political thoughts & direction. Apart from one or two others, yours was the first words of truth & good sense I have read on this thread. Well said & reasoned!!!

    • TymonsBass

      i agree w/ everything you said except, that the moon landing was fake… there is a flag on the moon! 

    • TymonsBass

      i agree w/ everything you said except, that the moon landing was fake… there is a flag on the moon! 

    • TymonsBass

      i agree w/ everything you said except, that the moon landing was fake… there is a flag on the moon! 

    • WAKE UP AMERICA

      At least DJ knows a little bit of USA’s history. Everyone else on this page seems to not take into consideration the extremely long history of government lies. Not too mention, Nixon was pres. at the time. I’m sure he wouldn’t lie to anyone for his gain? Oh wait, he was caught as the cheat he is. The actions of all the “moon landers” is conspicuous to say the least. Armstrong the “patriot” who was first to step on the moon refused to ever talk about it…ever! Aldrin made all the money he could off it, and the others fade into obscurity. It should be mentioned that all of these men were Freemasons, believed in the mason agenda, and acted on behalf of the masons. The masons by the way are Luciferian. Almost all of our reasons for “national pride” are constructed in upper levels of government. Like DJ mentioned the aquiring of the states by force, yet we celebrate the theft each year with Columbus Day, as if he did something great for the King of Spain and the Vatican, you people believe he did it for you! Quite the contrary, it was for the raw minerals and resources and the lives that were here, had to go. We celebrate Thanksgiving, because thats when the settlers shared dinner with the Indians in a peaceful manner. Of course, if you know history this never happened!! The Europeans slaughter, deceived, raped, and enslaved all the Indians, those who weren’t killed from the get go, were slowly pushed west and eventually were rounded up and forced onto reservations.
           But enough history of America, lets talk about the moon trip. We have to mention the fact that NASA was started from the capture of the SS officers and scientist. Hitler’s rocket program lead by Von Braun which bombed London repeatedly, was an interest of the US government. Project Paperclip is widely known now after the release of files from the information release act. It should be mentioned that anything that is still a “threat” to national security was not released. So the moon fake would fall under that. Anyway, the space program to many people is a publicly ran program that looks out for the interest of citizens. How far from the truth is this statement, actually its always been a military program. The pentagon was the ruling power behind the space program and it was a program to weaponize space and set up ballistic missile sites. There’s plenty of data to support this if anyone wishes to look further into it. The web page of the Strategic Air Defense plainly tells of its plans by 2020. They expect to have functional MTHEL (mobile tactical high energy lasers) in orbit so that they can prevent any other countries from sending anything into orbit. They are working on new space shuttles as well, as of now they have joined with NASA openly. The military was using the front “civilian” program to launch secret spy satellites and secret military weapons. Originally, the military did envision setting up bases on the moon, but found it was too costly and difficult. The Nazi scientists who were brought over had plans of their own as well. To think that SS officers who were responsible for atrocities during WW2 couldn’t kill any astronauts who planned to expose them, is crazy. The fact is that Nazi’s were given a budget of 40 billion in the 60’s, thats equal to about 600 billion today. 
           Besides the obvious faking of the footage which has many flaws, and could all have been shot from low orbit as it seems to have been. These studio quality photos have many convinced. Unfortunately, there were no photos that received emulsion problems from radiation exposure or from the extreme temperatures on the surface of the moon. I guess they were just lucky that radiation didn’t play a part in any of the moon expeditions. There is a funny side note, the solar cycle peaked in 69′. So there was potentially more solar burst and radiation that year than any years leading up to that. Not the best time to test humans going through the van allen belts. The fact is that Russia was ahead of the US in every aspect of the race. They had better rocket propulsion which the US worried about a great deal, due to the building of interballistic missiles. This wasn’t a race to the moon, but a race to arm the countries with the newest technology, rocket technology. Kissinger was the man behind the scenes for this. Russia beat the US with the first satellite, the first animal into space, the first man, and they did send a remote controlled car that drove on the moon for 19 hours until the battery went dead. Being this far ahead of the US, they never did manage to send a guy to the moon. Soviet scientists say this was because you can’t, he’ll die on the way. After seeing the film of the US moon mission, Soviets say it took their scientist about 4 hours to debunk it, knowing it was faked. Of course, their is rumor that the Soviets faked some of their footage as well. 
           The author of this film knew what he was speaking when he spoke of the difficulty of sending men to the moon. We’ve had the technology since 69′ and still have not managed to repeat this. I know, some say because we already did and theres nothing there. The difficulty of sending a satellite must be extremely precise, but sending a person there and back is a whole different issue. Even with the advancements that are available now, there have been many accidents and deaths involved in just sending people into orbit, much less a quarter of a million miles away and bringing them back alive.
           The main theme of all of this is that the government has had us by the balls for so long that most people believe that they are free. It’s so far from the truth of the matter. The government has deceived you into thinking that you have rights under the constitution. If you read the constitution and understand what it means, then you’ll realize that indeed you have no rights except for what they say you can have. There are two types of citizens in the constitution. The first is spelled with a capital C, the other a lower case c. The difference between the two is unbelievable. Most people don’t even realize that they have gave over their rights or submitted to the jurisdiction of the Federal government in DC. It only has control over a few miles in Washington, unless people willingly consent to them having jurisdiction. Everything in society is about jurisdiction and consent, this is why you can’t win in court. By having an address, a strawman name (your name in all caps showing that their is a bond in place), a drivers license, etc. In all of these you consent to their jurisdiction. To submit an application, which you do for all of these, you sign your rights over. This is why they can take your car if you don’t pay taxes, your house, even your kids. If you don’t take care of the property that you gave them authority over, they will take it back!! You are simply the holder of it, not the owner. Big difference! The fact that so many people still live under that giant propaganda machine of the the media and believe what it tells them is outrageous. This is why so many become mad when someone goes against the grain of doctrinated thought. The term “conspiracy theory” is there so that you will dismiss anything not spoken by the mainstream media. It becomes apparent when people like Ron Paul start speaking the truth about the constitution, we see how obvious it is that the media turns a deaf ear to it. Not only that, they ridicule and belittle people as crazy nut jobs or something. It will take quite a lot to change the way people think in our society, we first must change the media and its deeply woven ties to the pentagon. 

  • Xander Crews

    Another conspiracy flick….This one is a little more amateurish than most.

    This movie draws way too many bows and twists too many people’s words to be taken seriously.

    If the US never made it to the moon, you can bet the Russians would have been the first to broadcast that fact.

    For those who said ‘Oh we never had the technology for this’…yes we did. The computers on board the Apollo craft were elegant,tough and only had to number of raw calculations. Chipsets of today found their origins in those simple machines.

    I’m not American so there’s no pride blurring my judgement here. Facts are facts – Man did land on the moon and several times.

    Everybody likes a good conspiracy theory. This one has been done to death though sorry.

  • Xander Crews

    And this guy who made this movie, what did he expect would happen when he started accusing people of being liars???…He’s lucky he still has his teeth.

  • Nona

    I must say I found the documentary an eye-opener. 240,000 miles in the 60s?? The US has always been known for its self-promoting claims that are rarely true – eg., the gulf ‘war’ (which was actually better described as a massacre).

    Non-US countries have long believed it was impossible for the US to send anything beyond earth’s orbit, let alone the moon. I couldn’t make up my mind until this vid.

    • max jones

      you are letting him lead you. he makes a statement like, “the ISS and shuttle only orbit 200 miles above the earth and the reason is the van allen belts.”

      no. the reason has to do with a lot of engineering trade offs having to do with fuel consumption, mission parameters… van allen belts are just not a part of that decision.

      me straightening you out on that is not part of a global conspiracy.

      the other thing is that those space craft were tracked by the soviets who would loved to have busted nasa in a fake mission. you know what… you won’t find soviet space scientists doubting the apollo missions went to the moon.

    • max jones

      >240,000 miles in the 60s??

      heres a piece of trivia that can clarify this silly statement. the amount of energy it takes you to get to earth orbit would take you to the asteroid belt.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IINBQ24LBRBNRWGUM7BN7EWMJ4 Dave

      I’m a US citizen…i saw pretty much only US coverage of the gulf war…it looked like a massacre to me to and i was proud of our troops for dispensing of our enemy so rapidly and with so little loss on our side…thats what ur supposed to do in war regardless of whether we should be there or not..our troops where there..that was already moot…at that point u kill as effectively and rapidly as possible.

      And while were at it, i had friends and family that came home safe because our troops kill so well and i wouldn’t trade one of them for a whole republican guard regiment. 

      All countrys have there evils but there comes a point u have to pick a side and shut the fuck up. Childish dreams of everyone getting along are disproved by history, the nature of man and hell even nature itself…some children will never grow up i guess. 

      I know this is a bit off topic but i get so tired of the self loathing people exhibit when they take pride in shining the poorest possible light they can on their homeland.

      Find other avenues to deal with ur personal guilt nona.

  • J. Williams

    Gotta agree that NYCityCop9 is a joke. He should go back to playing with GI Joe rather posting his fantasies online.

    • Baum

      NYCityCop9 – your clearly are a pathetic little man.

      • Sargasso

        NYCityCop9 = keyboard fantasist.

  • max jones

    geez… why don’t you just skip the big words and say, “i’m dumb.” they didn’t use hard drives.:D

  • fuckgreece

    I got no reason to say Fuck America. Just because they are ignorant sheep it doesnt mean I should say Fuck America. If you know your history well Americans invented PROPAGANDA , the american government is a master at manipulation their population and making them believe any bullshit. NASA scientists themselves admitted that at the time in the 60s Russian Space Technology was 20 years ahead of the Americans, The Russians had more experience and clocked more hours in space so HOW did the Americans out of the blue one day just go to the moon and come back. Im not hatting or anything I dont deny americans sending the Rovers to Mars but Moon landing was bullshit!

  • Tony

    To begin with, I don’t believe we humans have landed on the moon based on evidence I have seen and to what lengths a government will go to, to achieve what they needed to. I also don’t believe its fair to blame Americans or any other race for what their governments do or have done in the past. I’m not a scientist of any sort, just an observer like most of you, I’m sure. I was born in Italy and now live in Australia in case someone wants to have a go at me racially. I remember seeing the live telecast in black and white and we were allowed to take time off school to go watch it at a friends place. Wow it was exciting, but now that I’m older and wiser, I have the ability and freedom to ask questions and seek further factual evidence before I believe stuff. I was disappointed to learn the truth about this, just as I no longer believe in a God, religions, governments,money,father xmas,easter bunny or the tooth fairy. Dont judge me, it is my opinion and I only have to answer to myself and not any of you or your Gods.

    • Clinton Molton

      “I don’t believe we humans have landed on the moon”

      To begin with, no body cares what you believe.

  • Foil

    Just in case anyone was taking this thing seriously..

    The calculation that estimated that a rocket that could make a trip to the moon would have to be the size of the empire state building etc. was done assuming a single stage rocket. Multi-stage rockets can accelerate to a much higher speed using less fuel because they discard the excess weight of the fuel tanks. This is why the Saturn 5 was so much smaller than this estimate.

    All the other “scientific” claims in this documentary can be dismissed in a similarly straightforward manor of you look a little beneath the surface. This is an example of how an irresponsible lack of fact-checking can lead to people being mislead. If you’re going to let a snippet of something that you see on the internet determine how you’re going to view the world, you owe it to yourself to do your own homework.

  • mudman

    wHAT A LOAD OF SHIT!

    Great punch from Buzz!

  • http://heykante.com skantea

    It’s not hard to keep something this big a secret. All you have to do is control the media, and no contradictory information gets out.
    Happens every day.

    • Skantea is semi-literate

      Fake comment used to spam a link to a website … if your service was any good you wouldn’t need to stoop to such low level, pathetic tactics. 

  • lucno

    Poorly made…ok I agree.
    BUT can someone explain why the piece of moon rock offered to The Netherlands after the mission ended turned out to be just some petrified wood?
    Please explain this to me.Thanks

  • Fred YTrellis

    Hmmm.

    America is not the only country in this world. And it had some pretty big competitors in Russia and China.

    Any conspiracy would need to include these countries. Americas enemies would have loved, absolutely loved, to get one transmission that did not come from the given position of the spacecraft on it’s way to the moon. They would love to be able to show photographs of an empty landing site. They would love to find the tiniest problem with the story of the moon landings.

    They couldn’t find one problem. Not with all their resources, not with all their will, not with all their hatred.

    Moon landings happened. And you have to be pretty deluded to think it’s a hoax, when you have no evidence, no credibly enemy of the state to back you up.

  • Mild Depresson

    if bill clinton wants all jews to die we should want to die too ! right?

    this guy is like 20 years old…how can you say shit about fuckin nasa when you’re still in college.

  • John

    Wow, once the narrator misinterpreted (willfully, I imagine) Clinton’s statement that he believed that the old carpenter might have been right, I realised I was listening to a narration built on error. Clinton was clearly stating that he wondered if the carpenter was right about people being able to make false images and assertions through the media. Which is what this documentary is – a falsehood being perpetrated through sound and image.
    The distance from the earth thing is understood quite easily, even by non-scientists. Once you power up to leave high orbit (which, yes, is caused by the earths magnetism) it is a matter of just point and go – the speed that is achieved is created by a timed, and relatively short, rocket burst.
    The distance hardly matters at that time.
    I would like to know how much cocaine it takes to be this ignorant of reality.
    The makers of this documentary should learn about reality – its actually a safe mental space to exist within.

  • Jeremy

    Obviously this documentary is poorly made, by a college kid who was hoping to cash in on some Loose Change – esque success. Is it a good, well thought out documentary? Not in the slightest. The dude interjects his personal opinions throughout the entire movie, which makes his real points lose all of their luster.

    But, to claim that he doesn’t make any real arguments is naive. Why hasn’t anyone been back to the moon? Why does China(the current super-nation) not anticipate going to the moon until 2020? How were we able to send satellite video footage in almost real time, 240,000 miles away? Why are the astronauts secretive about what happened? Do you not think that if you went to the moon you would making mental images of everything? I know I would have a million stories to tell, what was it like being trapped in a spaceship for weeks, what were you thinking about when viewing the earth on your way to the moon? You have no stories that you are willing to tell all these years later?

    Now, saying this, who the fuck knows whether or not we went to the moon. But the fact that there are so many questions and inconsistencies gives you something to consider and ponder, which is all any good documentary does.

    Refusing to believe the information is one thing, to claim that its complete bullshit is moronic.

    • anny

      first of all:

      the claim that we didn’t go IS complete bullshit. the. end.

      mountains of evidence prove this. and, as mentioned earlier, the very idea that Russia would neglect to throw everything it had at proving that the US hadn’t gone to the moon (if the US hadn’t) is patently absurd. the US and Russia were ENEMIES at that time. what good would it do for them to maintain the secret also? and–while we’re on the topic, Russia’s much-touted history of successful space missions (at that time) certainly DID occur, but they also had a spectacular failure record at that time, too. and in fact, they probably *could* have gone to the moon–eventually–but evidently not before the US.

      furthermore, that anyone could possibly believe that nearly half a million people (and i’m talking employees here–not to friggin’ mention entire GOVERNMENTS and other civilians in the know) could keep a secret the size of the entire Apollo space program is…le sigh. it’s simply ridiculous.

      no matter how much “mind control” or “hush money” there was theoretically involved, it seems very much like the “nonbelievers” are neglecting to remember that these are HUMAN BEINGS controlling this program, not a bunch of fucking programmable robots. at some point, irrefutable evidence would reveal itself because some guy or gal would appear with indisputable proof, looking for some attention or to clean his/her conscience. human beings are the main reason why most conspiracy theories collapse in on themselves.

      finally…i am getting pretty tired of people asking “well if we could go in 1965 why can’t we go now? how come other countries aren’t going/haven’t gone?”: 1.): we essentially *could* go again today (i.e., we possess the necessary technology), it’s just REALLY FUCKING EXPENSIVE. ever heard of the “Discovery Program”? that’s where NASA instituted the “Faster, Better, Cheaper” philosophy because the US gov’t severely cut NASA’s budget in the 1990s. without a clear-cut mission/goal, or without any obvious returns (beyond the starry-eyed “it’ll be totally awesome for humanity”), it’s fiscally retarded to just randomly send astronauts to the moon. you know how much the total cost of the program was? it was calculated at 25.4 billion by its close in the mid-70s. that’s 107 billion (in 2005 dollars!). that is why the US hasn’t yet gone back (oh and…we were going to go back: they were Apollo 18-20. it just got REALLY GOD-DAMNED EXPENSIVE and the missions were scrapped).
      2.) you want to know why no other country has gone to the moon as of yet? because why fucking WOULD they? what purpose would it serve? so said country could declare, “yay! we’re second on the moon! it only took us X number of years, it’s no longer politically significant, and we had to drastically raise taxes in order to do it… but we did it!”

      honestly, people, humans didn’t get to the moon on jellybean wishes and unicorn kisses. it took a lot of mistakes, a LOT of money, and a LOT of brains, but it was done.

      and lastly: seriously…if these “disbelievers” honestly believe humans didn’t go to the moon…fucking prove it somehow. humans proved that it could be done by FUCKING DOING IT. jesus. asking questions is not the same as refuting something. ask all the questions you want, just don’t bust a capillary when you’re proven incorrect.

      • spangis

        and you are a teacher right..?

        • anny

          i sure am.  english and chemistry.  

        • http://documentaryheaven.com bodey

          hey so explain to me why she needs the pedigree of being a teacher to explain something to you that you can fact check and evaluate for yourself???? oh right cause youre not that bright and you sound crazy

  • ralph

    This insults my intellect. I can’t believe people believe this.

  • wtf

    Everyone who believes a word in this so called “documentary” is sick and author should be imprisoned.

  • Yatti420

    Mythbusters won this round I think..

  • Michael Nash

    Well, the truth has been unveiled. This is only the top of the mountain, among other misinformations throught US (short) history. Just about every other event has been faked in the name of spreading the war conflict internationally. That is America for YOU ! Consume it all.. and enjoy !

  • roy

    Mmm put like that it does sound a little far fetched

  • Pete Laidler

    I think it is sad that disbelievers and followers of “moon-hoax guru” Bill Kaysing are putting out this nonsense. Besides the obvious pseudo-science the really sad fact is that the Regan/Thatcher era marked the beginning of the “safe generations”; boring tow-the-line unadventurous students who sue their teachers for being on strike instead of helping them by showing solidarity; the “corporate generations”. Unambitious low life. Damn right we couldn’t get to the moon today. Why? Because the world is full of lazy young whippersnapper idiots just like the people who made this film.
    Having said that… I really enjoyed watching it. Best laugh I’ve had for some time. A comedy like no other.

    • Terry

      yep what Pete said!!!

      Pete Laidler for Prez..  or Prime Minister.. or what eva ya have..

  • Todd

    This is a sad steaming pile of crap. Whoever buys into this documentary is lacking in serious critical thinking skills. What a pathetic attempt. It’s full of ridiculous speculation that if thought about for a mere moment, would be discredited along with all the other bullshit conspiracy crap. So lame. So fucking lame…

  • Darrell

    Seriously? Your radiation belt info is self explanatory and you have to be pretty ignorant to not see it. We don’t orbit inside the radiation belt because it IS dangerous, and the men heading to the Moon, were only exposed for about 3 hours. Orbiting would be MUCH longer. Also, how retarded is it to ask why we haven’t gone higher than 400 miles? You should visit a Saturn rocket to understand the amount of power, fuel, and money it takes to accomplish that. Why would a shuttle NEED to go higher? This is babbling jibberish.

  • Chris McMurphy

    Just started watching this and already, something has been taken out of context.

    A paragraph from Clinton`s book is used to infer that Clinton is speculative about the moon landings. In the paragraph, when Clinton calls a moon landing doubter `ahead of his time“, there is no reason to believe Clinton is doing anything other than showing his knowledge of media bias.

    Tactics like this are the reason documentaries are a dangerous format. I personally enjoy the possibility that the moon landings could be a hoax, and wouldn`t be all that surprised. But documentaries like this are plagues to the credible documentary world.

  • TIBBAR

    Clinton did not say it was a hoax
    This docu”Drama” takes it complete out of context saying that Billy is the only guy who “knows” it to be a hoax

  • Joe

    Did I miss something where one second they were talking about the laser mirror and then magically switched topics? maybe I missed a segment…I hope so otherwise very weak indeed.

  • jay

    They left things on the moon we can see with powerfull enough telescopes, like the flag and a reflector dish we actually continue to use to this day. The only reason they went to the moon was to proove they could, they collected samples, and needed no more. Now they are focusing on other moons like Europa. I hate this moronic stuff. MAN WAS ON THE MOON!!! YOU ONLY NEED A TELESCOPE TO SEE THE EVIDENCE!!! end of argument.

    • fuckgreece

      dont they have telescopes. Shit Hubble telescope can see galaxies tens of hundreds if not thousands of light years away, Why dont they point the Hubble towards the mood and take a few pics of the EVIDENCE they left behind. UH? In a couple of years Japan is going to send a satellite to the moon which should be able to prove it once and for all

      • also

        Actually because the moon is so and earths atmosphere unsteady you cannot see the flag on the moon with a telescope. Explanation here -http://www.rocketroberts.com/astro/flag_on_moon.htm

        You can however fire a laser at a reflector dish on the moon to judge it’s distance from Earth.

      • Martin

        Hubble doesn’t see objects light-years away. It images objects which have angular sizes within its ability to resolve, which is determined by the diameter of its objective mirror. It’d take a mirror close to a hundred feet in diameter to just barely resolve the Apollo Lunar Module from this distance.

  • Hightower

    I loved this documentary! I rated it a 10 to get the average up, because everyone should see this! At times some interesting questions were raised and I went on the internet to look for the answers… and surprise! Perfectly good explanations exist :)

    This documentary is a piece of crap that is very entertaining. Next to some interesting questions being raised (I’m not a scientist), most questions are just downright stupid.

    And what’s the big deal with the Apollo spacecraft traveling a huge distance? The documentary maker tries to make this seem impossible by putting it into a ludicrous perspective. I don’t even want to go into that since it’s so stupid and it would be a waste of my time to explain it.

    The best part of the documentary is when the documentary maker gets punched in the face by I think Buzz Aldrin, because he called Aldrin a liar and a coward! This old dude just hooks the loony right in his face! Awesome!

    • Parsifal

      It looks like the Soviet Union won the propaganda war in the end.  They were certainly playing a long game, but it would have been more expensive to go to the moon than to wait for the americans to convince themselves that it didn’t actually happen. I’m not even convinced Sergi Pavlovich Koroliev would have been happy.

  • Craignos

    OK, you’ve made your point, you really believe it was a hoax. But don’t rub it in the face of those old guys, even Michael Moore would have more respect for them.
    You live in a democracy, that gives you the right to believe whatever you want, not to disrespect others.

    That said, it is interesting to see that Busch wanted to send robots first, to see what it’s like up there, before he sends men. Don’t we know what’s like up there already?

    • JDL

      I completely agree. Some interesting points were made and critically analyzing documents is great, but the antagonizing of old men was downright disgraceful. Even if it was a hoax, you have to allow yourself some degree of understanding of the pride they have when they talk to other American’s who truly believe it. I personally don’t believe that we landed on the moon, but when talking to my parents and grandparents I let the topic go because I understand the significance it had and the impact it made on their lives. I’m glad you got punched in the face and even though I agree with your general idea, I would punch you in the face too!

  • Joshua

    Alot of the feedback claims that this is BS, but give no counter arguements for what is seen in this video. I uncertain about whether the moon landing took place or not, if it did, cudos for pulling it off, a feat of strength to say the least.

    However, I get the impression that most commentators here are Americans and feel strongly about this subject and instinctively lash out and claim this to be BS. That is understandable, but try not to see it as an attack on America.

    Rather a quest for truth, ofcourse the maker wants the truth to be the hoax option, but you should use this video to counter his claims and show the errors in his claims, rather than just call BS and leave it at that.

    Thanks for reading.

    • Marky

      I’m Irish and have zero vested interest in the subject. It’s difficult to refute the evidence in this film because …well, there is no evidence. It’s just repeated assertions with only a weak collection of points selected to encourage distrust in the ‘official story’. Articulate an argument from it and i’ll answer. The whole film boils down to someone saying “yeah, right, I don’t believe it” and that’s where it starts and ends. No reason, just disbelief. Very childish.

    • MyLow

      I’m not Amercian I had recognise this movie as being complete hog wash.

  • Debbie

    How Stanley Kubrick
    Faked the Apollo Moon Landings:
    Or How I learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Lies.
    Alchemical Kubrick II

    According to DARK SIDE OF THE MOON, the most important film of its kind since Oliver Stone’s JFK – or since Rob Reiner’s This is Spinal Tap, at any rate – images of Neil Armstrong’s walk on the moon on July 20, 1969 were shown to the world through the lens of master film-maker Stanley Kubrick and were staged on the same Borehamwood, U.K., sound stage where Kubrick made his landmark film, 2001: A Space Odyssey.

    “The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone
    of any significance in the major media.”
    -William Colby,
    former CIA Director

    While the events in Egypt and Tunisia show signs of hope beginning to overcome the tyranny of dictatorship and oppression for decades, the people are just scratching the surface in exposing the deception and betrayal to humanity and our environment. This is especially true for the USA with nuclear devices, including the H-bomb, detonated in outer space in the 1950’s and 1960’s. The Generals discovered how these bombs back-fired and integrated deadly radiation into the Van Allen belts. These are Earth-core magnetic radiation that surrounds our globe that protects our atmosphere from harmful solar radiation. What proof do we have that man can pass through the Van Allen belts? Since the claimed Apollo missions no one has claimed to have travelled beyond 400 miles Earth. The moon is 200,000 miles away. The only time I heard of a mission researching how far they could travel since the claimed-Apollo missions was in 1998. CNN reported: “The radiation belts surrounding Earth may be more dangerous for astronauts than previously believed. The phenomenon known as the ‘Van Allen Belts’ can spawn ‘Killer Electrons’ that can dramatically affect the astronauts’ health.” The shuttle astronauts got to find this out at only 350 miles from Earth. (This is hundreds of miles from the beginning of the Van Allen belts, which extend a further 25,000 miles away!) The 1998 Shuttle crew was better equipped with more advanced radiation shielding. However, the Shuttle astronauts reported “seeing” radiation with their eyes closed. Intense radiation penetrated their shielding as it went through the retinas of their closed eyes. This is only the tip of massive evidence of a fake lunar visitation and landing. The big lies are more than most people can accept. No wonder why the obvious building demolitions of the World Trade Centre remain a myth, though its reality was used to justify our latest rounds of wars, energy-currency military “strategic” operations. When you follow the money trail, we see the footprints of an elitist world domination order, end-less wars, loss of civil liberties, crimes against humanity and nature.

    • Vance

      It’s hard to take you seriously when you quote this:

      “According to DARK SIDE OF THE MOON, the most important film of its kind since Oliver Stone’s JFK – or since Rob Reiner’s This is Spinal Tap”

      If I said “This is the most important documentary since Duece Bigelow”, I would look as silly as you do.

      • Debbie

        This is a quote from “DARK SIDE OF THE MOON”. It is their comment not mine. I quoted the entire paragraph as it was written. It is known as ‘giving the source”.

        Calling me silly for quoting another is just as silly. If that is the total of your complaint I find it difficult to take you seriously also.

        Further more I did watch the documentary of Stanley Kubrick’s wife and those who assisted in the making of moon landing film with her husband. I was impressed enough to consider it a very strong possibility that the moon landing itself was a fake.

        • Anonymous

          Personally, I think “Wish You Were Here” was Pink Floyd’s best work.  Just sayin….that’s all….. 

          • Respect?

             wow! you said something without being rude! congrats!! and, something I agree with as well! Double kudos.

          • Respect?

             wow! you said something without being rude! congrats!! and, something I agree with as well! Double kudos.

          • Respect?

             wow! you said something without being rude! congrats!! and, something I agree with as well! Double kudos.

          • Binky

            have you seen “live in Pompeii”? that’s my favourite Pink Floyd thing

        • Anonymous

          so in other words…. you cannot think for yourself…. not very surprising.

    • Anonymous

      oh my good lord you are all a bunch of kcufing morons 

      • Luft

        Hi johken – don’t be so circumspect, call it like it is:- tghey are are all a bunch of fucking morons.

    • Daniel Lyons

      Actually, Debbie… you’re more right than many of the people posting here know.  The more deeply people become embedded in the big lie, the more vitriolic their responses when that lie is challenged.  

    • Ripleyrichard

      dont like conspiracies much then!!

    • Alex Holding

      One of the Shuttle astronauts who saw radiation (subjective but plausible) was actually on the International Space Station at the time after an extended period in space. He got blasted by radiation from a solar flare. These, whilst common, are infrequent enough that they simply had to hope that one didn’t happen during the moon mission. Human expansion of the frontiers has always been fraught with danger. The moon mission was no exception.

      It’s disappointing that after a couple thousand years of modern science, people still believe nonsense like this. Go pray to the sun fckhead.

      *edit* Mir, not the ISS

  • Christian S.

    Appeal to authority. Just because one former president isn’t convinced of the moon landing, it doesn’t follow that serious doubt must be cast. He was a politician, not a scientist.

    Fail.

  • Debbie

    Politicians are puppets and nothing more.

  • Marky

    Very misleading documentary that is full of non-sequitur after non-sequitur. The bald and evidence-less assertion that NASA murdered astronauts is perhaps the most despicable claim.

  • Adam

    Thought this was a joke at first. Obviously not a man who has studied much science. Hit the books sir.

  • Krissto

    ”This video was produced solely for misinformational purposes”

    Did you use Adobe Premiere to edit this crap?

  • Yuri

    This is mindless misinformation. Doesn’t deserve an ounce of attention

  • fuckgreece

    those retards coultnt go to the moon today let alone in go in the 1960s 6 times

    • Johnny

      See my post below, I forgot to actually quote you.

  • Johnny

    Actually they could quite easily get to the moon today, or any planet in the Solar System for that matter, the issue is safety. There are dozens of unmanned craft already scouring the Solar System, and I believe Voyageur One is actually outside of or right on the heliospheric boundary of the Solar System now.

    Getting there isn’t that difficult, relatively speaking. With the latest advances in plasma(ion) thruster systems and other advanced propulsion it will become even easier.

    Today the cosmic radiation is known to be too great a risk for manned spaceflight because a lot more concern is placed on the safety of the astronauts, whereas back in the early days of the Space Age little specifics were known of the dangers and being the first meant everyone knew of the high likelihood of harm coming to them and accepted the risks to be space pioneers, ‘to go where no man has gone before’.

    It was largely because of the Apollo missions that NASA learned of many of the dangers of manned spaceflight that made them decide that the risks were too great and the expensive development for systems to try to protect crew from those dangers was too high in comparison to the cheaper and easier unmanned spaceflight program alternative they quickly embarked on.

    Getting there is not the problem, it’s all the stuff a living person would have to go through to get there that is the problem.

    If you want to volunteer for manned spaceflight ‘fuckgreece’ I’m sure I could help find some ‘retard’ at NASA who would love to blast you far away from this planet(as much as I’m sure many people here do) to hook you up with a trip to the moon…

    I doubt they’d be willing to cover the cost of the return trip for someone like you though so you should pack heavy. :p

    • Too Funny Johnny LOL

      Poor Fuckgreece, he seems to have an issue with communicating his thoughts!

      • fuckgreece

        Blow me motherfucker

        • Anonymous

          Way to prove Ellie’s point asshat.

    • fuckgreece

      First of all, you dont know dick about me motherfucker you fucking Mcdonalds eating fat piece of shit brain washed Americunt! Second, Of course they could go, They could go to mars they could go beyond the solar system yet they dont! Why is that? Because they cant send a man to the moon and bring him back exactly my point. I guess “Bush” was bullshitting when he said “We are going back to the Moon” Whats it been 50+ years all the advancements in technology and all the new materials why havent they gone back? They could barely achieve low orbit in the 60s let alone go to the moon. I wonder why NASA announced about a year ago that they lost the original footage of the moon landing! Only thing you Americunts know is how to land on MCdonalds order a double whopper large fries and a large diet cola. Maybe next time they go to the moon they will build a McDonalds on the Moon so the astronauts can have a happy meal and a cola.

      • Johnny

        Your stupid name ‘FuckGreece’ and terms like ‘Americunt’, combined with your previous shot of calling people of far greater intellect than yourself ‘retards’ tells everything I need to know about the kind of person you are, I don’t need to know the details of your life for that(I really don’t want any).

        Oh, and actually I am a skinny Canadacunt who wouldn’t touch McDonalds food with a flamethrower, but I understand that the truth hurts and you are just lashing out as a natural defense mechanism and thus I won’t hold your childish reaction against you.

        “Because they cant send a man to the moon and bring him back exactly my point.”

        So they can bring back geological samples from distant planets using highly advanced unmanned equipment they can remote control from literally millions of miles away but they don’t have the technology to bring a man back from the Moon under direct human control? Laughable.

        If you think such feats are impossible you have a very poor understanding of the state of advanced technology development today, or even that of people like Nikola Tesla from the 1930’s and earlier.

        “Whats it been 50+ years all the advancements in technology and all the new materials why havent they gone back?”

        Did you not read my prior post at all? Do you think they knew everything about the dangers of space travel 50 years ago, seriously?

        We are still learning of new dangers and issues posed by ‘cosmic radiation’ and ‘space weather'(electricity) every day and we have technology to protect against only a few of those known dangers now, to consider sending people into space without adequate protection for the clear dangers we do know they will face would be insane.

        During the original Apollo missions they didn’t know the details of all the dangers they faced and they weren’t as concerned with astronaut safety anyways, they accepted the general risks that came with going into “the unknown” and made history.

        “They could barely achieve low orbit in the 60s let alone go to the moon.”

        That statement shows your inept understanding of space physics, achieving a low orbit of any kind involves counteracting the constant gravitational forces pulling on an object/craft and is more technically difficult than what the Apollo missions were doing.

        Simply blasting through the area of the highest gravitational forces in near-Earth space and be propelled constantly in one general direction is easier than operating within it where you need thrusters or other propulsion systems working intermittently to counteract the gravitational forces constantly pulling the craft downward toward the surface. The lower the orbit the more difficult it is to maintain.

        Anyways, the Apollo missions managed to take visible light and UV images of Earth from the surface of the Moon, leave behind reflectors that can still be seen with telescopes today, collected geological samples of material that could not have come from Earth or been otherwise faked and yet we are to believe it is all a hoax because someone like you doesn’t think those ‘retards’ can really do it?

        Oh and just an FYI – NASA is a civilian agency which occasionally works in conjunction with the military for certain development projects, the U.S Air Force has it’s own space development unit(U.S Air Force Space Command Space Innovation and Development Center[AFSPC SIDC]) separate from NASA which has ZERO access for the general public or any civilian agency or group within the governmental structure like NASA.

        I have no doubt the U.S.A.F has sent people into (deep)space since the time of the Apollo missions since technologies necessary for manned spaceflight are one of the focuses of their programs based on what I’ve read.

        Just because the government decided NASA shouldn’t focus on manned spaceflight doesn’t mean the U.S military isn’t focused on it, and since NASA only does what it is (politically) mandated to do they aren’t necessarily actively involved in any conspiracy or cover-up themselves.

        One needs to remember that we have a ying and a yang here, we have NASA as a public and politically controlled civilian agency which the public has fairly high access to, but then we have an ‘anti-NASA’ group within the military with zero real access from the public(aside from PR completely controlled by them).

        NASA’s mandate is to explore and understand but the military does not explore and understand, it’s mandate is always ‘command and control’ which almost always comes with the title of ‘classified’.

        ‘U.S Air Force Space Command’ doesn’t command space unless it controls it, so looking at NASA and trying to understand what’s going on is not going to get you far as NASA is not in control.

        The fact NASA is a civilian agency in a ‘National Security State’ where the military reigns supreme should tell people something right from the get go.

        But anyways this moon landing hoax crap is ridiculous, I mean I am a holocaust revisionist because there is significant evidence that contradicts a large portion of the holocaust ‘death camp’ stories(only natural since the wartime propaganda has to be included in the official history lest everyone know it was lies), but in this case all the real evidence I’ve seen says the moon landing did happen and this whole conspiracy is retarded and only serving to further confuse and bury the real truth.

        • fuckgreece

          So youre a Candiancunt cousins of the Americunts. Do you know that when the space race started the russians developed so rapidly that they were 20 years ahead of the US/NASA in space technology. Why was it that the russians were the first to launch the first satellite in orbit. Why was it that the russians were the first to send the first human in space? Yuri Gagarin. I bet nobody knows he’s name. Then all of a sudden we are to believe that overnight the US Just LEAPED 20 years and were able to land on the moon 6 fucking times and all 6 times bring the crew of 12 people back safely. Do you know that the computer on board of the space shuttles that went to the moon was no different than that of digital hand watch today. You telling me that was able to send people to the moon and bring them back.

          Oh Yeah your evidence. The Hubble telescope can see galaxies tens hundreds if not thousands of light years away. Why dont they just point it towards the moon and take pictures of the evidence they left behind. uh? 50 Years and why havent they been back. So 1960s 12 men supposedly walked on the moon went and came back 6 Times. 50 years went by who havent they gone once? uh

          Did you know that during WWII over 60,000,000 people died. And most of whom were civilians, bystanders, innocent women and children. They were shot at, bombed, killed, butchered, drowned burned alive etc etc, how come nobody mentions them. But all you hear is Holocast this and Holocast. What were the Jews who died in WWII more important than those poor 60 million souls. You keep eating your grass pay taxes and be good sheep!

          • Albo

            Go back to the cave!

          • Johnny

            Oh dear lord, you just regurgitate the same BS over and over in the hopes it will become true, and clearly you don’t know how to read my comments.

            Idiocy #1 – You don’t seem to get the mentality of the U.S government at that time in the post-WWII, early Cold-War days, the U.S didn’t know the Russians were so far ahead of them until they put Sputnik into space and the ‘Space Race’ began and became a huge issue and the pressure was on to beat the Russians to the Moon, no matter what the cost.

            If you’ve bothered to actually research the subject you’d know practically everyone involved in the early days of the Apollo missions complained at some time or other later on that their technology was sub-par(one guy I believe called many systems ‘improvised’) as was their knowledge of all of the risks involved but the government didn’t care about the risks only that they accomplish their duty and get to the Moon before the Russians did.

            And FYI – it doesn’t actually take that great of technology to get into space, just good engineering of the vehicles/equipment and a big rocket. Doing it as safely as possible is another matter entirely, as is staying there for any extended period of time(in stable orbit).

            Once they achieved their goal of beating the Russians to the Moon why would they bother risking the safety of astronauts when unmanned craft could fulfill NASA’s mandates just as well if not better?

            You seem intent on believing no matter what that because they don’t see a reason to needlessly risk people’s lives anymore that is evidence they didn’t go to the Moon in the first place, which makes no sense.

            Idiocy #2 – the Hubble telescope doesn’t take ‘pictures’ in the traditional sense, it collects ‘photons’ or ‘light particles’ and allows us to view very distant objects that give off or reflect light in various wave lengths.

            You may as well try to see the ‘evidence’ on the Moon’s surface with your bare eyes.

            But we can see the reflectors left behind from a number of different telescopes here on Earth which could not be possible if they weren’t on the Moon’s surface, which you ignore so obviously even if we had great pictures you’d just say they were fake to continue being a tool.

            And there are high-res images of the Moon’s surface available online which although it’s not able to see the evidence itself it does allow you to see boulders and craters that are clearly visible in photographs from the Apollo missions exactly where they should be based on the photo’s and official info on the landing sites on the Moon.

            I can’t provide a link since then my post will not be posted, but there are a few different locations for high-res Moon images that can be found online so if you aren’t lazy you can find them for yourself. The best one is at the Arizona State University Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera(LROC) website.

            Idiocy #3 – I am an historical revisionist which includes holocaust revisionism seeking to show the Holocaust, although a horrible event did not involve the mass-exterminations of millions of Jews by way of gas chambers as claimed but not evidenced. The Holocaust mass-extermination victims that don’t exist are used to distract from the 10’s of millions of others killed in indiscriminate mass-bombings(started by the Allies) and nuclear attacks carried out by the Allies, supposedly in the name of stopping mass-murders.

            I don’t get your last paragraph at all, you just explained exactly why I am an historical revisionist and then somehow used that to imply I’m a grass eating sheep for not being an historical revisionist, but I am… wtf?

            The “evil Nazi’s” and the Holocaust are great propaganda which helps to cover up the numerous crimes and mass-murders committed by the Allies, and the brutal aftermath in which millions of German soldiers were purposefully starved to death in Allied POW camps and a large scale insurgency took place in ‘free’ Europe against the Allies for a decade after the official end of the war.

            Anyways, this is my last post dealing with your stubborn refusal to accept reality so you may as well not bother responding.

            Moan hoaxers are like cultists, they are firm in their beliefs and no amount of evidence will shake their faith that it’s all a lie and they are the only ones smart enough to know the truth so I should know better than to challenge a believer like you.

            Keep dreaming boy, but have a good(and likely paranoid) life.

  • fuckgreece

    to the Albo Motherfucker. Suck dick and die fucking faggot

    • Moi

      Please refrain from using such bigoted and angry comments

    • Anonymous

      Closet case….

  • fuckgreece

    to the Johny motherfucker! WTF are talking about. Your world play shows how full of shit you really are. Who the fuck cares what the US didnt know about the russians. The fact remains. Russians were first to put satellite in space russians were first to put man in space and the Russians were 20 years ahead!

    It doesnt take great technology to get into space! Are you stupid or just plain fucking retarded. If it was so easy how come everyone isnt going into space. A Digital Hand watch send man to the Moon.

    “And there are high-res images of the Moon’s surface available online which although it’s not able to see the evidence itself” BINGO I wonder why they dont show the “EVIDENCE”. WTF are talking about the Hubble Telescope is the most powerful Telescope ever build or “Was” by man kind. It can take Pictures of galaxies hundreds of light years away. How come it itsnt collecting photons that bounce from the moon?

    You said that you were a “holocaust revisionist” so I asked you did you know that 60,000,000 people died during WWII and how come when you hear of WWII all you hear is about the holocaust?

    You type a shit load of stuff but you dont explain dick you just keep dancing around. Dangers in space bullshit images that dont show the evidence, crater that was left on the surface of the moon by the lander. Fucking Moon surface is filled with fucking craters

    and please do keep the conversation going and write some facts instead of dancing around the subject matter.

    • Johnny

      One last post just because I’m bored and your extremely angry and absurd replies are quite amusing.

      “It doesnt take great technology to get into space! Are you stupid or just plain fucking retarded. If it was so easy how come everyone isnt going into space. A Digital Hand watch send man to the Moon.”

      Apparently my “world play”(-l?) is too difficult for you to understand so I need to elaborate.

      You stated at first that NASA’s technology was no more advanced than a wristwatch, and you are correct in that a digital watch contains tiny highly efficient computer microchips and such that didn’t exist back then as computer technology wasn’t very advanced so that’s a given, it’s a completely fallacious comparison.

      That is a total strawman argument since they didn’t need that highly-advanced tiny high-efficient computer systems when larger and less efficient systems did exist that could still get the job done.

      Just because the computer chip in your watch is more advanced by way of being smaller and more efficient doesn’t mean it’s more powerful than the systems used at that time.

      Rocket science(chemistry mainly) and technology on the other hand is quite difficult to develop to a level of power and control necessary for space flight, hence why so few have achieved it.

      Lucky for the U.S and Russia the Nazi’s provided hundreds of working V2 Rockets to be plundered and studied and redeveloped after WWII that gave them a big head-start over the rest of the world in the ‘Space Age’.

      While the Russians focused mainly on using them to get to space at first the U.S concentrated on developing them for delivering explosives as the Nazi’s had as well, until they realized how far ahead the Russians were and how big of an advantage space domination would afford them.

      Ironically though one of the first things the Americans did was put a camera on one of the V2 rockets and take the first pictures in space and so they got off to a good start.

      Hard to understand still?

      “BINGO I wonder why they dont show the “EVIDENCE”

      Because it isn’t magnified(zoomed in) far enough due to limitations on the website hosting the image and magnification ability for the telescope used, the only pictures showing close-ups are the ones from the Apollo missions which you dismiss as fakes which are far from high-res. You can see them at Google Moon.

      “WTF are talking about the Hubble Telescope is the most powerful Telescope ever build or “Was” by man kind. It can take Pictures of galaxies hundreds of light years away. How come it itsnt collecting photons that bounce from the moon?”

      It seems I was as mistaken on this as you are as Hubble has taken images of the Moon’s surface as far back as 1999, some of which are publicly and freely available on the Hubble website and it’s possible you could contact someone there to provide you with some high-mag snapshots of the landing areas to look for your ‘evidence’.

      You’d be amazed how forthcoming they can be if you ask nicely, though I’d recommend using a real name and not calling them ‘retards’ or ‘Americunts’ or anything like that.

      “You said that you were a “holocaust revisionist” so I asked you did you know that 60,000,000 people died during WWII and how come when you hear of WWII all you hear is about the holocaust?”

      Holocaust revisionism was specifically created because people were pissed off with all the focus on the Jewish Holocaust mass exterminations of which there is very little evidence to support while ignoring the greater mass murders of 10’s of millions of ‘less worthy’ victims that is very clearly documented/evidenced.

      As long as people keep buying the Holocaust mythology they will be distracted by it because it is built on emotions rather than intelligence, Holocaust revisionism is about focusing people on the truth of the Holocaust so that they can look past it and recognize the greater crimes committed by both sides and the real reasons behind it all.

      Believe me if we could just ignore the Holocaust mythology and the half century + of warfare and political bullshit that has spawned from it and it would all just go away all Holocaust revisionists would gladly ignore it.

      Sadly in the real world where literally billions of dollars is invested in the “Holocaust Industry” that just isn’t going to happen, ignoring it won’t make it go away.

      “You type a shit load of stuff but you dont explain dick you just keep dancing around. Dangers in space bullshit images that dont show the evidence, crater that was left on the surface of the moon by the lander. Fucking Moon surface is filled with fucking craters”

      1. I said you could see craters and boulders in PHOTOS taken during the Apollo missions which can also be seen in the High-res surface images I mentioned, but you can’t ‘zoom in’ any further to see the details of the landing site itself or even to know with complete certainty they are the same boulders and craters. I did not say anyone could see a crater left by the lander.

      The positions of those boulders and craters does support the original Apollo images but again nothing certain can be determined at that magnification.

      2. I type a shitload because I like to make my points as clear as possible, sometimes to the point of making them more confusing I admit, but there was nothing I see that was confusing from my prior postings here.

      The only one dancing around is you with your constant ad-hominem attacks and other childish tactics.

      3. And now you are completely dismissing the dangers of space travel, but I’m the one talking shit?

      “and please do keep the conversation going and write some facts instead of dancing around the subject matter.”

      GTFO, seriously? I haven’t seen or heard one fact from you, just pure conjecture about technology levels and how if the Russians couldn’t do it NASA couldn’t either so it must be all bullshit, and how the pictures and video that show proof are fake and since you can’t get free access to the images that could show proof over the internet(I’m guessing with very little effort involved) the evidence itself doesn’t exist.

      I’m assuming from multiple postings around here that you are just a lousy, miserable troll hence why I said I was going to just ignore you, but if you are just an idiot who can’t read properly or understand big words or use any critical thinking I don’t mind playing around with you for a while longer.

      And again I know full well that you likely won’t do anything to look for the images or anything I mention because I can’t link them directly without my post being held back for moderation which often means it never gets posted at all.

      But I’m sure also that if I did link them directly you’d probably use some of the sources I use (NASA, ESA, Roscosmos, etc.) to simply dismiss them entirely without consideration anyways since they are part of the conspiracy…

      I find you extremely amusing, while everyone else is focused on understanding how much more advanced the technology that the powers that be have is compared to what is officially acknowledged you are downright religious in your belief of the opposite.

      But of course your evidence is that the official evidence is fake and part of a huge conspiracy and you haven’t seen any other evidence yourself therefore the evidence doesn’t exist at all because you believe it to be so.

      PS – You dance like a fairy, no sense of reality whatsoever. 😉

      PPS – Let me know if you have any troubles with the length of this post or any big wor(l)ds I may have used so I can try to clarify if needed.

      • Ellie

        Hi Johnny,

        Can I join in here?…I get a chuckle from both you and f***greece….you seem to know how to light his fire!

        Anyway, I am interested in what you have to say about the holocaust revisionism. This is really the first I have heard of this…you mention above the greater mass murders 10’s of millions of ‘less worthy’ victims…what do you mean by this?

        And what is the truth of the Holocaust and the greater crimes committed by both sides and the real reasons behind it all that you mention?

        Ellie.

        • Johnny

          “Can I join in here?…I get a chuckle from both you and f***greece….you seem to know how to light his fire!”

          Certainly you can, and it’s not that hard really to light his fire as his name indicates he is a troll and trolls hate anything that requires more than 5 seconds of thinking. The longer and more punctual/grammatical the posting the swifter and more vicious the response, though most are not really angry but simply have a perverted need for any attention they can get even if it is negative and online. Mr FG here seems to really get angry, and that is quite amusing to me I will admit as I honestly don’t understand it.

          Getting annoyed with someone’s online antics is one thing but getting angry is pointless, if it gets to the point you are getting angry you should shut down your computer and go relax a bit.

          “Anyway, I am interested in what you have to say about the holocaust revisionism. This is really the first I have heard of this…you mention above the greater mass murders 10′s of millions of ‘less worthy’ victims…what do you mean by this?

          And what is the truth of the Holocaust and the greater crimes committed by both sides and the real reasons behind it all that you mention?”

          Well now I honestly don’t think DocHeaven is too friendly to Holocaust Revisionism and as such I should limit my discussion on it here especially since it’s off-topic, but there is a group(and ‘.com’ website) called CODOH which is the ‘Committee for Open Debate On the Holocaust’ which outlines most of the revisionist material.

          Bearing in mind as always that some of the evidence presented there against the Holocaust is just as questionable as the evidence of the Holocaust itself so one needs to differentiate between the evidence itself and the assumptions of the commentators that are sometimes drawn from that evidence.

          But the worthy victims of WWII were the Jews allegedly mass-murdered by the Nazi’s, the military personnel that died at Pearl Harbor, the British people cowering in the tunnels of London during ‘The Blitz’, and anything else that makes for good nationalistic propaganda or helps push a political agenda such as Zionism or Americanism.

          The ‘less worthy’ victims were those killed in the large-scale firebombings of numerous cities filled with civilians by both sides, but first started by the Allies and disguised behind the ‘public relations’ spin of a ‘strategic bombing campaign’.

          Sure the Allies killed just as many if not more civilians than the Nazi’s during the course of the war, but they only killed as many as they needed to kill to prevent mass murdering evil from conquering the world so it’s not mass murder but “strategic bombing” and is all good, right? [/sarcasm]

          As for the real reasons behind it all – ultimately it’s all about greed, the lust for money and power(really the same thing, no?).

          There is a pretty decent documentary around here somewhere which although it doesn’t get into the whole truth of it all it does discuss the role of hundreds of national/international banking cartels in laundering the loot the Nazi’s plundered during the war, it’s called ‘Banking with Hitler’ if I recall correctly. It’s a good way to wade into the issue one toe at a time I guess rather than jumping right in.

          I will say that based on my research if you find out who really funded the U.S war effort in WWII you will discover who also funded the Nazi and Imperial Japanese war machines.

          Also, a brief look into what are jokingly/sarcastically referred to as ‘tectonic snakes’ and their importance in geopolitics is also of value here in understanding the dynamics involved in the WWII situation as well.

          We live in a world built on ‘public relations’ where the truth is not the issue, all that matters is how you can ‘spin’ it to your advantage.

          WWII and the Holocaust are the biggest and most successful PR campaigns in history. WWI was filled with equally horrifying stories of atrocities committed by the Germans which were almost all proven false through thorough investigation after the war which ultimately led to the public in most Allied nations taking the view that the word propaganda was “dirty”(blatant lies) and the Edward Bernays coined term ‘Public Relations’ replaced it.

          90% of the WWII Nazi Holocaust horror stories have never been investigated thoroughly beyond accepting the Soviet’s “evidence” which included claims of around 200 million mass-murdered at Auschwitz by the Nazi’s, a claim laughed out of the Nuremberg Trials while the rest of the Soviet “evidence”(though mostly equally unbelievable) was accepted as fact.

          Or there are a few often contradictory “eye-witness testimonies” that are also contradicted by evidence such as aerial photo’s taken by the Allies on days when massive outdoor cremation fires were supposedly burning thousands of bodies according to “witnesses” and Nazi “confessions” and yet not a single trace of such events – not even a wisp of smoke or any large patch of disturbed soil/foliage where the mass-graves were supposed to be in the process of being dug up for cremation at that time – can be seen in the photo’s.

          Even suggesting actually doing forensic testing of the mass-grave sites to document the victims the same way all the other victims of the wars have been documented through the years is literally considered a crime in some countries claiming that it is ‘hate speech’ based on the racist desire to not allow the Jewish victims to ‘rest in peace’. Personally I don’t understand how they can be at peace if they are never identified and their families never receive true closure, but clearly that just means I am a racist…

          And as a note, ironically the most detailed forensic investigations into mass-graves at the time came from the Nazi’s investigations of Soviet massacres in Poland in which only a small percentage of the victims out of tens of thousands of recovered bodies were unable to be identified.

          Strange that the Nazi’s seemed to care more about forensically documenting mass murder crimes against other peoples than the Jewish Zionists of today care about documenting and bringing some closure to the crimes against their own peoples.

          Of course the ‘Holocaust Industry’ and a lot of political weight rests specifically on NOT bringing any closure to the issue, it’s all about emotions not facts and intelligence/critical thinking.

          Emotional shock propaganda has a long and very successful history, emotional reactions always overpower the ability to think critically. Our modern ‘public relations’ societies make use of the system frequently, the Holocaust, the Israeli-Palestine “conflict”(illegal occupation) and 9/11 are a few of the more blatant ones but in reality our entire ‘western’ society is based on emotions.

          Anyways, I’ve missed some big points but hopefully I’ve provided enough to at least allow you to give the revisionist material an objective review and judge it for yourself.

          I must also say that my first memory in life was watching a Soviet military parade through Red Square and that has stuck with me forever and led to me spending my entire life researching(reading, watching, reviewing anything I could find) the whole geopolitical landscape of the past 200 years or so, and thus I have a very goo understanding of how things really work and it is far easier for me to accept the reality that there are vast conspiracies out there.

          But I should add here that the Moon landings being a hoax isn’t one of those conspiracies based on the evidence I’ve seen and the fact most of the ‘hoaxer’ case is based on claiming the official evidence is fake or simply ‘unbelievable’ based on their personal views rather than providing actual evidence of their own to prove it was fake. Though certainly the missions were very largely propagandized for obvious reasons the claim of them being completely fake is unsupported by the evidence in my view.

          I’m rambling a bit now so I’ll end here and head to bed before I write a novel, lol.

          • Ellie

            This is so interesting. I truly question so many things I was “taught” in school and when I see that we have been lied to, by our governments, the controllers of wealth, I am just bewildered and do not understand, why certain humans desire such excessive power, control and wealth.

            A “big one” for me is the “story” of the Pilgrims coming to America. As a small child, grade 2, 3, 4…I loved that story!…the first Thanksgiving!!…and then to learn as an adult, the historical truth of the killing, raping, stealing of goods and lands, etc that was done to the Indian tribes, it makes me irate, and absolutely ashamed.

            I appreciate the info you presented, I will check out that documentary you mentioned, I do recall seeing it here on DH.

          • jmr

            Dear Ellie, You seem to have a curious mind and want to be open to many ideas. There is so much good information available that is presented in a coherient way.I just don’t understand why you would try to learn from a ranting and disrespectful individual such as F#@##Greece… And please don’t be so hard on the Pilgrims. If you read accurate accounts of history you will find that in those particular times the killing was not entirely one sided. And yes,yes! terrible things happened to the American Indians. But civilizations do evolve morally. People learn from the mistakes of their ancestors and go on to be and do better. People would be arrested and jailed today for doing many things that were commonplace 80 years ago. Give your country a break. There is also much to be proud of

          • Ellie

            jmr…thank you for writing…yes, I am a “craver of information”, however…

            …I think that because of this new format of DH, my comments may line up to corresponding with f***greece (of which I have had correspondence that questions his vulgarity etc, but actually, any intelligent correspondence has been with johnny…(of whom has not participated here at DH for a week or so, and I had very much enjoyed his input, I hope he is ok)…

            anyway, it is very clear to me that f***greece has nothing of importance to say…

            …moving on…I question accounts of history…much of which are historically inaccurate and manipulated..and I do realize the killing of native Indians was not one sided…but I also see the inherent greed of our ancestors and their manipulation to cover up their greed with stories of patriotism and freedom…

            also, my opinion is that the military is run by a corrupt government that is run by wealthy, powerful corrupt men/corporations who continue to attack and kill innocent human beings in the name of patriotism and freedom, for their own benefit…

            ..the people (or country) that I am proud of, are people who are willing to open their eyes and minds (people who choose not continue to be fooled by manipulation/brainwashing of patriotic ideas, and at the same time, choose not to continue to be fooled by manipulation/brainwashing of main stream media and advertising that we should continue to consume/buy to attain happiness, which in itself is a “cover-up” intended to keep us occupied so that we dont pay attention to what the corrupt government/corporations are actually doing…and I am proud people who are willing to speak up to these corrupt agencies and to speak up for the innocent human beings who are suffering from the affects of poverty and war, again that are caused by corrupt governments and wealthy, powerful corporations…

            ..even though I may have “carried on” a bit here, I do appreciate your input and consider your views…I just somewhat disagree…

            Ellie.

          • Ellie

            jmr…thank you for writing…yes, I am a “craver of information”, however…

            …I think that because of this new format of DH, my comments may line up to corresponding with f***greece (of which I have had correspondence that questions his vulgarity etc, but actually, any intelligent correspondence has been with johnny…(of whom has not participated here at DH for a week or so, and I had very much enjoyed his input, I hope he is ok)…

            anyway, it is very clear to me that f***greece has nothing of importance to say…

            …moving on…I question accounts of history…much of which are historically inaccurate and manipulated..and I do realize the killing of native Indians was not one sided…but I also see the inherent greed of our ancestors and their manipulation to cover up their greed with stories of patriotism and freedom…

            also, my opinion is that the military is run by a corrupt government that is run by wealthy, powerful corrupt men/corporations who continue to attack and kill innocent human beings in the name of patriotism and freedom, for their own benefit…

            ..the people (or country) that I am proud of, are people who are willing to open their eyes and minds (people who choose not continue to be fooled by manipulation/brainwashing of patriotic ideas, and at the same time, choose not to continue to be fooled by manipulation/brainwashing of main stream media and advertising that we should continue to consume/buy to attain happiness, which in itself is a “cover-up” intended to keep us occupied so that we dont pay attention to what the corrupt government/corporations are actually doing…and I am proud people who are willing to speak up to these corrupt agencies and to speak up for the innocent human beings who are suffering from the affects of poverty and war, again that are caused by corrupt governments and wealthy, powerful corporations…

            ..even though I may have “carried on” a bit here, I do appreciate your input and consider your views…I just somewhat disagree…

            Ellie.

          • Samosa

            Johnny – Are these long-winded rambles a form of therapy or do you really think anybody reads all of them?

      • fuckgreece

        yeah fuck that Im not reading your fucking retarded essays still I cant make any sense of it. You just keep on rambling on about irrelevant shit in hopes to mislead from the real issue. And I said the computer on the space shuttles had the same CAPABILITIES as that of a digital hand watch today. WTF does that have to do with microchips and the size of the circuit boards. “Pictures of the Moon that dont show the evidence” you know how fucking retarded that sounds. What kind of proof is that?

        Man you must be fucking retarded or something. Do you know how much calculations and ADVANCED technology is required to send a craft to maintain orbit. You mentioned the SLINGSHOT effect that the Americans “supposedly used” in the apollo missions. Do you know that the slightest miscalculation or shift in angle can send the space craft to drift in space with no hope of coming back, After that they had to worry about landing on the moon and achieving lunar orbit. And they did all this with 1960s technology. Shit one fucking 6gb hard drive was the size of a room.

        Not too long ago they sent the two rovers to mars. They did some nice miscalculations and one of them ended ass up.

        I go a story for you and the Americunts this is a true fact you can look it up. During the Space Race people at Nasa were having trouble coming up with something that could write in 0 gravity. A pen would work no gravity. So they spent 3 years and millions of dollars developing this pen that could write in space, under water, in cold or hot weather.

        The Russians were face with the same problem but they just used a pencil! Thats to show you NASAS ingenuity.

        Dont write fucking Novels because im not reading your dumb ass irrelevant arguments.

        • Johnny

          “yeah fuck that Im not reading your fucking retarded essays still I cant make any sense of it.”

          I believe this comment should be in the dictionary under the definition of “internet troll”, so the question of purposeful trolling vs simple ignorance is answered.

          I have been reading your posts and responding to them directly, breaking them down section by section and addressing the core issues, and this is ‘retarded’ to you?

          If you aren’t reading my ‘fucking retarded essays’ then why do you respond to them as such, and how do you know you are actually responding to what I have stated if you “can’t make any sense of it” or just aren’t reading it?

          Obviously you truly don’t have a clue what I am saying because you’ve proven me correct a few times now.

          And what does your distraction about a ‘space pen’ have to do with anything? NASA had nothing to do with that development, the ‘space pen’ was developed privately and sold by Fisher Space Pen Company which has ZERO connection to NASA.

          Well they did sell some pens to NASA, and also Roscosmos(the Russian Space Agency) who studied them for a while but the development of the pens had nothing to do with either of them.

          But at least you had the sense to say millions, I’ve heard people say they spent 12 Billion on the pen even though that would have eaten up all of NASA’s budget for like 10 years, lol.

          For someone who keeps calling me retarded you can’t make a single intelligent point, and now you’re tossing in long ago falsified urban legends to make a point of me being retarded?

          You are joking, right?

          But whatever, now that it is clear you are just a troll I will be ignoring you from now on.

          • fuckgreece

            ThanK god no fucking Essay this time. Its pointless to argue with someone who is ignorant. No matter what I say or evidence I provide still in the end you still refuse to accept the truth and go rambling on about irrelevant shit that has no connection whatsoever to do with anything. NASA has two ways to prove it once and far all and its very easy. One show pictures of the actual evidence on the moon or two go back to the moon. And they can very easily do the first one and yet they dont why because they never went to the moon. funny you call me a troll and your the one writing fucking Novels. cheers and go fuck yourself!

          • Anonymous

            I have never seen such a failed trolling. The embarrassment you are feeling is normal… side effect of being full of shit.

        • Ellie

          F***greece, I have a question for you and I dont mean this to be sarcastic, I really am curious….why have you chosen the name ‘F***greece’? I would probably assume you are upset or disappointed with Greece, but I am truly curious, so I dont want to just assume. If you are upset with Greece, why?

          And why do you refer to Americans as Americ**ts? You must realize that not ALL Americans are nasty, greedy, wasteful, power-hungry war mongers. There truly are many decent Americans.

          If you take offense to these questions, I apologize. I have a curious nature, especially with personalities and why people respond/react in the way they do.

          Ellie.

          • fuckgreece

            Hey Ellie. To answer your first question I dont like homo greeks they are a race of faggots. For more on the gay greeks you check out my youtube channel http://www.youtube.com/user/ProducioniFuckGreece

            To answer your second question. I went to college in America and lived among the AmeriCUNTS for 4 years 99.9% of them truly are shitty human beings. Good God I never have see so many asswholes one place. I didnt know people could be so ignorant. And there were very very very few decent human beings 99.9% were asswholes. cheers!

      • Anonymous

        a beer…..a computer….and no life= this long winded ranting bullshit.  Goodbye dickheads….I am bored with you 

      • Anonymous

        a beer…..a computer….and no life= this long winded ranting bullshit.  Goodbye dickheads….I am bored with you 

      • Anonymous

        a beer…..a computer….and no life= this long winded ranting bullshit.  Goodbye dickheads….I am bored with you 

  • Ellie

    Looks like you were right Johnny. Another straw on the camels back of disappointment in humanity, alias troll.

    • fuckgreece

      BLOW ME! No Mcodnalds here you fucking americunt.

  • qwerty

    Firstly:
    “Lack of evidence is not evidence of lack”
    Second:
    Fuckgreece ,You are an Internationatwat , a troll,and definitely secretly gay.
    Creationists could use YOU as the best proof that evolution never happened.

    Screw intelligent discussion , lets get some schoolyard insults going, after all ,what really matters isn’t what we might learn collectively but the feeling of being RIGHT.

    Your ignorance borders on genius , i find it more believable that jellyfish went to the moon than that you could actually come up with a good argument for or against anything.

    Bring on the insults,they’re all you’ve got….

    • Anonymous

      qwerty….tell me whats bothering you, OK?  I don’t mean the fact that you can’t spell, write or even think clearly….I mean deep down ….what’s wrong?  Did someone threaten you on the playground today?  Come on you can tell me…..let it out…..it’s OK to cry, little boy…… 

  • qwerty

    also in 4 years you met 99.9% of the population of america,you must be quite a socialite.

  • qwerty

    Sorry everyone .i just had to bite.Back to moon landings….

  • Maco

    Oh my, the starting argument ruined it for me, willfully reading something out of context does not make a credible basis for any conspiracy theory, LAME!

  • Maco

    Oh my, the starting argument ruined it for me, willfully reading something out of context does not make a credible basis for any conspiracy theory, LAME!

  • Maco

    Oh my, the starting argument ruined it for me, willfully reading something out of context does not make a credible basis for any conspiracy theory, LAME!

  • JackCool

    Comments has been affected by Agents of the Darkness.. This people are paid to cause the confusion. Lots of arguments for nothing. Just to influence the crowd. Avoid all negativity and use your own senses. MOON Landing never happened. Kind regards.

    • Jack’sNotCool

      Idiot

      • Anonymous

        Wow, you registered a name just to say one word?

        • Jack’sNotCool

          No, because I didn’t register .. this is not needed for Documentary Heaven. Look’s as if JackCool as company as being an idiot on this page.

        • JackCool

          See, lizards hate to be exposed. So they poison the topic with all this swearing and negativity. They will be punished at the end. Moon, well, still a Virgin, unspoilt by Corporate Darkness.. All the best everyone :)

          • Ahahah

            I’ll translate my interpretations of JackCool vs Jack’sNotCool
            JackCool believes there are reptillian extra-terrestrials that are also capable of channeling, being extra-dimensional. A speculated species named after the reptillian gland that looks identical to a crocodile’s brain section in humans. Clifford Stone Bob Schnieder disclosure project etc..

            Jack’sNotCool is a normal contemporary physicalist that doesn’t believe in conspiracy, E.T.s, or the great beyond. He has a bad taste about superstitious airy people which strikes him as obnoxiously weak minded. high 5

            The fact of the matter is both of these individuals opinions are insignificant in the long run because Jack’sNotCool is NOT a reptillain et and not being possesed by one , JacksCool is right that there is a greater reality that 60-70% of the mainstream consensus hasn’t fully researched yet, but wrong in potentially the majority of his assumptions and 99% of people reading this message have no information base to compare with mine and vice versa because we have different eyes and experiences and either way if it’s not on your belief systems foot ball team then insults rather than dialogue is exchanged. case closed can’t wait till we all die,

            and nobody is going to get divine retribution or punished
            how do you feel stealing life from living objects because unless you eat only fruit and nuts your just as ego centric as anythign else you slander

          • Anonymous

            dude….overkill.  I fell asleep just scrolling to the bottom of your tirade. 

          • Terry

            LOL..  dude,  your my new Hero =)

          • Terry

            LOL..  dude,  your my new Hero =)

          • Terry

            LOL..  dude,  your my new Hero =)

          • Ahahah

            I’ll translate my interpretations of JackCool vs Jack’sNotCool
            JackCool believes there are reptillian extra-terrestrials that are also capable of channeling, being extra-dimensional. A speculated species named after the reptillian gland that looks identical to a crocodile’s brain section in humans. Clifford Stone Bob Schnieder disclosure project etc..

            Jack’sNotCool is a normal contemporary physicalist that doesn’t believe in conspiracy, E.T.s, or the great beyond. He has a bad taste about superstitious airy people which strikes him as obnoxiously weak minded. high 5

            The fact of the matter is both of these individuals opinions are insignificant in the long run because Jack’sNotCool is NOT a reptillain et and not being possesed by one , JacksCool is right that there is a greater reality that 60-70% of the mainstream consensus hasn’t fully researched yet, but wrong in potentially the majority of his assumptions and 99% of people reading this message have no information base to compare with mine and vice versa because we have different eyes and experiences and either way if it’s not on your belief systems foot ball team then insults rather than dialogue is exchanged. case closed can’t wait till we all die,

            and nobody is going to get divine retribution or punished
            how do you feel stealing life from living objects because unless you eat only fruit and nuts your just as ego centric as anythign else you slander

        • to212

          Wow, you registered a name to say ten words. Clearly you are tem times better than Jack’sNotCool.

          • From212

             My name has been registered in Disqus before this website even had the option…

          • to212

            Well done idiot …The comment to which I replied was from ‘from212′ using an avatar whilst you are ‘From212′ without an avatar.

            If you’re going to impersonate somebody then at least get the details correct.

      • Anonymous

        Wow, you registered a name just to say one word?

    • Ripleyrichard

      what a cock! agents of darkness??? lol u play to much dungeons and dragons pal. 

    • Ripleyrichard

      what a cock! agents of darkness??? lol u play to much dungeons and dragons pal. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Quinten-Fisher/100000386274700 Quinten Fisher

      just when i thought people couldnt live without a brain and still breathe, you managed to type a complete paragraph of stupidity. i guess evolution created another group of retards! we made it to the moon, its not very hard to believe that.

  • Bernard

    Well, they left a mirror on the moon that I have personally zapped with a laser for my astronomy studies at university. Soooo… explain that one, douchbags.

    • Ok

      i like this comment because I almost fell for the entire film

    • guest123

      There could be an argument that it was dropped by an unmanned module and not be people who went there.

    • Reasonable

      There are landers on Mars and we’ve never been there… douchbag! Why don’t you go shoot some lasers at that!

    • Anonymous

      right on brutha 

    • http://twitter.com/metis78 dan parenteau

      The russians did it as well, without landing someone on the moon.

      • NeedProof

        Where’s your proof of this? You, the scientific kind?

    • ICE

      Says Lex Luthor himself….talk about douchebags…haaa!! If ya wanna try sounding like a scientist…stick to biology okay snuffleupmyassaguss?? 

      Like say how shit is created? Then perhaps you will understand the  “Moon Landing” in a Rubiks cube with locomiton technology massive enough to return them safely to earth after some perfectly imagined MOON Launch. LOL. How fukn naive does one have to be?? 

      The chances of aliens building the great pyramids are tenfold what are those of that moon debacle being legitimate. However…I personally didn’t need this dopey film makers version of events to know that.

    • vejer

      look guys,,i really don’t give a rats ass if you think we went to the moon or not,,we did,,it is what it is,,,the only problem with going again is not technological…it is a matter of will,,,do we have the will to return there,,and possibly go farther?i doubt it,,although i really hope so. so many advances by such an endeavour could benefit mankind in ways we really cannot know.you can’t say what advances we may acheive,,nor can i,,so,therefore,,i say…let’s go,,,all the way,,complete dedication to the space program,,and what we might be able to achieve..

  • Jesse

    If you have any intelligence whatsoever then you can do some research and discover we went to the moon. This is all retarded and taken out of context when it is suited to try and win favor for this fucked up type of thought process. Moon hoax believers are a example of accepted ignorance and nothing more. Go and do some research and you will discover quite quickly that we landed on the moon.

    • Andy

      Exactly, Don’t these people think just for one second that if they were faked surely the Russians (whose scientist were just as good as america’s) would say so and prove so. In the height of the cold war nothing would be more satisfiying for them. But they don’t but these people with google and you tube no better lol.

      • rainman

        you say the russians scientists were just as good, why didn’t they follow up with a moon landing?  

        • Daniel

          Russian scientists didn’t have the capital backing to undertake such a venture.  There are brilliant scientists in countries all over the world…they aren’t all funded by rich governments.

          • ScottyD

            Agreed. No one cares who comes second. The Russians would have had to do something bigger and better. Like what?

    • Andy

      Exactly, Don’t these people think just for one second that if they were faked surely the Russians (whose scientist were just as good as america’s) would say so and prove so. In the height of the cold war nothing would be more satisfiying for them. But they don’t but these people with google and you tube no better lol.

    • TerryF

      10.000 + people like it on Facebook. All of them like it, since US never landed on the Moon. Apollo 13 hand guided back to Earth.. you are joking. CIA scam # 1

      • KhL

        Assume “TerryF” is an abbreviation for Terry Fuckwit

        • jj

          Bill Clinton must be a fuckwit too, I would like to hear an objective criticism of this movie, “anybody can do some basic research and find out this movie is bull shit” is not cutting it for me, the belligerent response from the comments and astronaughts themselves is repulsive in the jingoistic creepy jock way..

          • Anonymous

            exsqueeze me?!??!?  You must’ve inhaled too much rocket fuel vapor from the moon rocket launches 

          • Cam

            go read marky mark’s comment then

        • Anonymous

          sweet……true dat KhL 

        • Seth_arminarmevents

          Terry Fatboy 

      • KhL

        Assume “TerryF” is an abbreviation for Terry Fuckwit

      • Terry

        lol..  i haven’t even watched this movie but you said it all mate,  10,000+  like it on facebook.. lol.. which would equal less than 1% of the worlds fuckwits such as yourself mate..  lmao..

        the damn world is just full of numbnuts like yourself that are fortunate that breathing in and out is a natural response…  do the world a favour after buying what ever the latest nick nak is that you have to have cause the other sheep has one,  and attend the next natural disaster eh,..

        much appreciate you not pissin’ in the gene pool..

      • Terry

        lol..  i haven’t even watched this movie but you said it all mate,  10,000+  like it on facebook.. lol.. which would equal less than 1% of the worlds fuckwits such as yourself mate..  lmao..

        the damn world is just full of numbnuts like yourself that are fortunate that breathing in and out is a natural response…  do the world a favour after buying what ever the latest nick nak is that you have to have cause the other sheep has one,  and attend the next natural disaster eh,..

        much appreciate you not pissin’ in the gene pool..

      • Terry

        lol..  i haven’t even watched this movie but you said it all mate,  10,000+  like it on facebook.. lol.. which would equal less than 1% of the worlds fuckwits such as yourself mate..  lmao..

        the damn world is just full of numbnuts like yourself that are fortunate that breathing in and out is a natural response…  do the world a favour after buying what ever the latest nick nak is that you have to have cause the other sheep has one,  and attend the next natural disaster eh,..

        much appreciate you not pissin’ in the gene pool..

  • Terry

    MOOOON NEVER HAPPENED !!
    Cold War propaganda.. finally exposed…
    Even now US can not set for landing on the Moon.
    Your fathers has been set up.. played like idiots.. you2
    Loosers

    • Terry

      EM,  OH, OH, EN, spells MOON…

      Dude Y you jack my name??

      Fucker.. lol

  • Terry

    MOOOON NEVER HAPPENED !!
    Cold War propaganda.. finally exposed…
    Even now US can not set for landing on the Moon.
    Your fathers has been set up.. played like idiots.. you2
    Loosers

  • Anonymous

    This has to be the worst “conspiracy” movie ever. I couldn’t get past the first 20 minutes because all the host offers is what amounts to “no you didn’t” to everything offered. Asking a BS question (How did we do it with technology from 1969?) is not proof of anything, nor does it disprove anything else.

    I like watching these conspiracy movies for a good laugh. This one just made me cry for the huge waste of time that anyone involved in its production or its viewing had to endure.

  • Mike Hudson

    They could not swear on Bible + Why ?
    Than, did not take Money. Why ?
    There is uneasy feeling that we never went to the moon.
    I think that this is a tip of the iceberg, more to come..
    Thanks, Mike

    • James Clavell

      “They could not swear on Bible + Why ?”

      Some possibilities:
      1. They’re not Christians.
      2. The request dis deserve the dignity of a reply.
      3. They were too busy with other things that day.
      4. And why the fuck should they?

      “I think” … clearly you don’t.

  • Mike Hudson

    They could not swear on Bible + Why ?
    Than, did not take Money. Why ?
    There is uneasy feeling that we never went to the moon.
    I think that this is a tip of the iceberg, more to come..
    Thanks, Mike

  • Walenda

    Sibrel is quite a clown…

  • Walenda

    Sibrel is quite a clown…

  • Walenda

    Sibrel is quite a clown…

  • Ante

    The footage from the press conference with the three astronauts has always bothered me. They have made the biggest achievement in human history and they look like they have been caught stealing money from their grandmother’s purse.

    • B-ry MoFo

      I’m not 100% either way on this argument.  But don’t you think if you had just spent all that time in a capsule, then walked on Earth’s MOON, stared at the earth from a totally new perspective, then came back to earth, and everyone is asking you very complicated questions, you’d feel slightly bemused?  It’s not like winning the World Cup, or the Super Bowl.  It would be a grueling, physically challenging, and drawn out affair.  I’d want to go to bed for about 6 weeks afterwards, not give Patrick Moore a lecture on what is visible or not whilst your totally meditating on moon vibes.  

  • Bobman121

    WHOS THE WE.. you said we never went to the moon

    you never went no where….

    the whole world is a lie ,, for gullible fools like you .

    if they went to the moon, we could go again tomorrow, with today’s technology,

    ahhhh but we cant !!!! we wont , we will not,,,

    because we can not …

    think about it,,,all the photos,,and the films of the moon,, made it believable

    thats what makes it a show,,a show for you to watch and believe ,

    • Anonymous

       I don’t believe in outside so much – that I stopped believing in anything that isn’t my computer screen.

    • Anonymous

      what are you…..12?  retard 

      • Guest

        I would be surprised if he had the mental age of a 12 year old … if not retarded then certainly immature.

  • Bobman121

    simple as this

    why doesn’t the space shuttle simply turn off ..point to the moon and go…

    think about it,,,,, because they can not !!!!!

    its got to tell you something ,

    the hoaxed moon landings cost the Russians the space race,,,

    cost the American tax payer billions ,

    and changed the world in Americas favor

    your like religious fools ,,,believing the guff they feed us…you !!!

    wake up…

    • Anonymous

      *yawn*….just woke up.  Hi “bobboy 121″!!!  Umm…just want to mention….you’re a complete moron.  Not just partial….I mean full-on COMPLETE.  Now drink your milk, eat your cookies, and go to bed.  Night night little poopiehead. 

      • Guest

        Good comment johnken.

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  • Jgb983

    WTF? Don’t have the technology? We send shit to Mars! And Voyager is somewhere out past our solar system now.

    Why would the American’s fake this 7 times (including A13)? If it were a fake they’d do it once and cover it up, destroy stuff etc.

    • Terry

      well said mate,  and you to marky, 

      and are you skeptics out there aware of some of the technoledgy that has been invented and hidden from you?!?   jesus,  there were things being developed over 10yrs ago that make landing on the moon as simple as sex.. lol..   any fucker can do that,  

      but where is all that usefull stuff you might ask?  well likely now owned by sony, microsoft, apple or some asshole who’s selling you the latest and greatest iphone cause your stupid enough to spend your money there,  while their researches work out what they’ve got and pump it up full of features for you damn assclowns..

      lol..  startin’ to hate this place..

    • Terry

      well said mate,  and you to marky, 

      and are you skeptics out there aware of some of the technoledgy that has been invented and hidden from you?!?   jesus,  there were things being developed over 10yrs ago that make landing on the moon as simple as sex.. lol..   any fucker can do that,  

      but where is all that usefull stuff you might ask?  well likely now owned by sony, microsoft, apple or some asshole who’s selling you the latest and greatest iphone cause your stupid enough to spend your money there,  while their researches work out what they’ve got and pump it up full of features for you damn assclowns..

      lol..  startin’ to hate this place..

  • chemdawg

    watch mythbusters sometime

  • Kyrgyz

    Any dumbass who believes U.S. faked Moon landings can use telescope and see mirrors placed on the lunar surface by the Apollo 11, 14.

  • Duff5000

    To any non crazy people out there. Check out google earth then go to the moon. They have it all 3d mapped. You can look at original photos from the moon landings and then close the picture and the 3d map of the area matches perfectly. Really well done and quite interesting.
    http://earth.google.com/moon/index.html

    Also you can actually see evidence of human action on the moon. It was taken a few years back with the LRO. Info and some pics on wikipedia.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Reconnaissance_Orbiter

  • Duff5000

    To any non crazy people out there. Check out google earth then go to the moon. They have it all 3d mapped. You can look at original photos from the moon landings and then close the picture and the 3d map of the area matches perfectly. Really well done and quite interesting.
    http://earth.google.com/moon/index.html

    Also you can actually see evidence of human action on the moon. It was taken a few years back with the LRO. Info and some pics on wikipedia.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Reconnaissance_Orbiter

  • Duff5000

    To any non crazy people out there. Check out google earth then go to the moon. They have it all 3d mapped. You can look at original photos from the moon landings and then close the picture and the 3d map of the area matches perfectly. Really well done and quite interesting.
    http://earth.google.com/moon/index.html

    Also you can actually see evidence of human action on the moon. It was taken a few years back with the LRO. Info and some pics on wikipedia.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Reconnaissance_Orbiter

  • Mirl.

    the laser mirror on the moon does not prove for a second that there were people on the moon. i mean, does it!? am i missing something here?? how does a laser mirror prove anything, help?

    also, after reading every single comment (198) i notice that not many of you had the patience to finish the movie, because NOBODY has mentioned the footage that Sibrel received in the mail, PROVING(?) the forged photographs &NOBODY has mentioned how it is possible for the film in the hasselbladt cameras, (or their television cameras) to have survived the radiation. from what i “know”, none of the photographs should have turned out at all.

    Could someone please address and try and explain to me about the footage of the astronauts clearly forging the photo of the earth? and why none of the film was washed out by radiation?

    also, could you please explain to me why in pictures of the earth from space, whole continents are obstructed by clouds like 6,000 miles long??? those photos (you’ve all seen them, i don’t need to post them) all seem to me to be taken out of a circle porthole window, in orbit.

    Also, I would like to point out the part of the movie where Sibrel screams something like: saying man has walked on the moon is a satanic lie! <<<When i think about it like this, and I look up at the moon i think, by god. he's right. what a schizophrenic, satanic lie. there's no way we've been up there. the hubris!!!!

    genuinely amused by the comments here. some of you are real rockstars. but most of you admit to not having the patience to get through the first 20 minutes. people people on the web you disappoint every time….

    • http://profiles.google.com/mark.o.reilly3d marky mark

      The mirrors on the moon are pretty strong evidence. They were placed there to help measure exact distance. It is from these measurements we have been able to verify that the moon is slowly moving away from us. The measurements were first taken immediately after the moon landing. The only other way they could get there would be through an automated placement.
      Their locations have to be incredibly precise and measured, they’re pretty small.

      If you are making an argument that we did not have the technology to put a man on the moon it’s hard to explain the mirrors by saying an even more complicated and advanced process was used.

      • Anonymous

        marky’s at it again!  go brutha…..  So I was just about to reply to the reflector / mirror or whatever the hell someone placed on the moon but you took care of business, so thank you.  I thought I was going to have to explain how terribly difficult it would be to have that mirror placed robotically.  WHEW! 

  • biglens

    how do you fools explain the footprints we can see through our telescope here in western australia

    • Anonymous

      hey dude….I was just wondering…..did the footprints appear upside down in your lens cuz…you know…you’re down under and all?  And do your toilets flush counterclockwise?  Please help a US brutha out! 

      • Guest

        What an idiot.

  • Guest

    this is no documentary!! absolute bull*%^£$ on every level

  • http://profiles.google.com/mark.o.reilly3d marky mark

     Just jotting down points as I watch.
    -Clinton never says he puts stock in moon landing conspiracies. The quote from the book is about how you can’t believe everything you see on tv. 
    -The reason we don’t send things more than a few hundred miles from earth is simple, there’s nothing there.
    -only 3 countries have put men into space, not because its so hard but because a cost/ benefit analysis doesn’t justify it. 
    -They were only in the belts for about 4 hours- the next line in van allen’s article says ‘unless some practical means can be found to shield space-travelers against the effects of radiation’ this was done, astronauts were shielded with aluminium plating.
    -The effects on the eye of radiation actually support the moonlanding because many of these astronauts developed related cataracts later in life.
    -Countries are not too ‘stingy and incompetent’ to send people or animals past the belts.. there is just no clear reason to. Automated ships pose no threat to life and are cheaper.
    -The lander’s cooling system isn’t explained adequately here and it is simply stated there is no way to cool down the lander. The cooling system is well documented, it worked by expelling coolant vapour and with it the heat from the lander. Time was limited by the amount of coolant and the power to pump it.
    -docking at 4000 miles an hour isn’t that impressive when there is no atmosphere, it only matters how fast they are going in relation to eachother.
    -I fail to see how sending a man to the moon would impact anyones plans to bomb the US from space. US had already sent a man around the world in orbit too so they had similar capabilities going to the moon offers no military advantage. 
    -More stuff about why havn’t we gone back to the moon…there’s nothing there!, why would we? the idea of further trips are controversial. A base on the moon has been proposed primarily to serve as a launch pad to explore further out into space. The feasibility is questionable though.
    -Braun’s book was published in 53, it’s calculations are simply out of date and could not account for technological advances 15 years later.
    -Once you break through earths gravitational pull (which we can clearly do) the amount of fuel needed is negligible by comparison.
    -Implying that NASA committed murder to discourage astronauts from sharing the truth is serious…and done so with absolutely no evidence.
    -Harassing old men isn’t cool.
    -..and the rest is just reassertions and incredulity for a conclusion.

    • Anonymous

      Spot on, marky……spot on. 

    • Cam

      I’d like to add one more thing to what you said (all of which I agree with), which is that if they hadn’t actually landed on the moon, then there would have been no possible way for them to have placed the mirrors on its surface; mirrors which we know use to accurately measure the distance between the Earth and the Moon by sending a laser beam up, reflecting it off the mirrors, and then receiving/detecting its return it back here on Earth and measuring the time it took for the round trip.  This would be impossible had they never gone, and it is done all the time from Earth-based observatories.

      • http://twitter.com/metis78 dan parenteau

         The russians also placed reflectors on the moon, and no one is claiming they landed on the moon.

    • Tazz9555

      Here’s the main reason we did in fact land on the moon. The Soviet Union and their allies hated the fact that the US made it to the moon first. It was a PR nightmare for them just like it was a PR victory for the US. They were, of course, tracking the Apollo spacecrafts the whole way, because, why not? It’s easy enough to do. And you better believe, if we didn’t really go, they would be the first the let the world know it was a lie.

      Also, we have hundreds of pounds of moonrocks that the US brought back, distributed to countries and scientists all over the world. England, France, Russia, Japan, China, Australia, India, etc… and those scientists, the leading people in their field,would tell right away if they were fake rocks. They confirm that they are real.

      Also, to be quite honest, since there were over 400,000 people involved in the design, development, and execution of the Apollo program, it would have been easier to just go there for real, rather than keep 400,000 people quiet for 40 years. The idea that 400,000 people (regular people, mostly civilians, not some ‘secret government agency’) are THAT committed to such a grandiose lie for 40 years is so ridiculous, that if you believe that, after hearing the facts I just told you, you fit the textbook definition of ‘paranoid’ and need to be put in an institution. Seriously.

      • vonvonic

        How exactly would the Russian have proven it if the States didn’t land on the moon? With the internet? Or would they have published an article in the New York Times?

        Even if they knew it was a hoax, and had the science to prove it, nobody would have believed them anyway. They would have looked foolish…

        I’m not saying whether the moon landing happened or not, put that PR victory logic makes no sense

      • vonvonic

        How exactly would the Russian have proven it if the States didn’t land on the moon? With the internet? Or would they have published an article in the New York Times?

        Even if they knew it was a hoax, and had the science to prove it, nobody would have believed them anyway. They would have looked foolish…

        I’m not saying whether the moon landing happened or not, put that PR victory logic makes no sense

        • Vick-e

          agree

          • http://www.facebook.com/rocky.racoon.334 Rocky Racoon

            and america , America

        • Whaiapo

          Now you are just assuming that Russians don’t ever leave Russia. Believe it or not, they live all over the world! AND, strange as it seems, the speak those languages too!

          You know, they might have put an article in the New York times if the need arised. But I don;t think they would have needed to.  A country that big which is highly militerialised… (yes, with an “s” not a “z” for I am from New Zealand.) highly militerialised like america which, no offence… but I am assuming you are from. They had power too.

          • militerialised maori

            Kia ora! You embarass our country with your amazing fail.  Militarised or militarized would both be fine but what the fuck is militerialised? Shame!!

        • Dopplerduck

           I am from India. We were on the Soviet side during the cold war. Half the world was on this side of the divide. Even radio hams tracked the Apollo spacecraft all the way to the moon. Had there been a reason to believe that the moon landings were a fraud, everyone from this side of the cold war divide would have not only believed it, they would have used it limitlessly in their propaganda against USA and its ways.

      • http://twitter.com/metis78 dan parenteau

        I’ll try to address the issues you raised. 

        About the moon rocks. Not true, one of the moon rocks was made of petrified wood,  also found to be of same minerals as earth [rightfully so] and to contain some trace elements of water.

        They kept the N-bomb secret. Some people former nasa employees have said it was faked sure they might be lying but atleast a few have said it on record.  

        Each and every item could of been faked. There is zero concrete proof. Like you know the laser reflectors? That many point to as proof,well the russians put them on the moon as well. The fact that not a single astronaut died is amazing when considering how dangerous space is. One tiny rock traveling through space could easily kill astronaut just because of sheer speed, along with numerous other things.

        • marky mark

          The petrified wood rock didn’t come directly from Nasa and yes moon rocks are made of much of the same materials as earth, this is because how how the moon likely formed from the impact of a smaller planet with earth in it’s early histroy.
          The laser reflectors have been there in use since the first mission.

          If you’re incredulous enough then any even that ever happened ‘could’ of been faked. You’ve got it backwards, there is no evidence that it was faked.

          Also please provide some kind of reference for your statement that nasa employees are on record saying it was faked. To my knowledge only one ever made a comment saying it could have been and he had no involvement in the moon program at all.

          • Whaiapo

            Also, NASA scientists how come out and  said that they saw ancient alien pyramids on the moon too. ……….. Somethings in the water cooler there me thinks.

          • ScottyD

            And I do believe that people did die in the process. Don’t forget the lead up programs including Gemini.

        • NASA

          Uh…
          Apollo 1: 3 astronauts died in a fire
          Challenger: Burned up on re-entry!

          When a rock is coming, the ship changes its path and avoids impact. What proof does the conspiracy theorists have that we did not land on the moon. The N-Bomb was a secret because all the people involved were government employed group of scientists (about 300 people) and those 300 people were kept silent until they were done.

          Also, there is NO reason whatsoever to fake the moon landing, Apollo 13 was a real disaster in space with people heading to the moon, and americans did step on the moon!

    • Critic

      Mate, a few things to keep in mind:

      – the motif: to win the PR war against Russia and to gain billions of funding for rocket research (think long range missiles) for a decade or more

      – with the exception of the astronauts very few people would have needed to know about a possible fraud (similar to  911).
      – unmanned moon landings prior or after Appollo 11 could have taken samples and left mirrors there
      –  Brown’s expedition to the Antarctic could have yielded him meteorites
      – Kubriks wife saying Nasa approached him to make a movie and the stage and setup and timing of his 2010 was a convenient coincidence.
      – the astronauts behaviour was odd when approached to swear by god…
      – Ford was sued for stealing the technology of an intermittent wind screenwiper years after the moonlanding – was Ford light years behind NASA?
      – why would anyone really go to the moon when all that is needed is the video footage and perhaps some moon rock.

      the moon rock may be the strongest piece of evidence for a moonlanding – but I wonder if anyone could say for sure what moonrock would look like if nobody has ever seen one. Modifying a meteorite may be easier than flying to the moon…

      I am not saying we should not believe it. But we should be critical. After all the US government has a decade long history of deception – read Noam Chomsky or the officially admitted conspiracies like Watergate, Golf of Tonkin etc… and an enormous motif.

      I should say I haven’t seen this movie but other footage and read a lot..

      • chomsky’s bulldog

        please don’t soil chomsky’s impeccable name by associating him in anyway shape or form with moon landing conspiracy nuts…

      • Shane

        the word is motive, motif is a repeating theme or pattern… just saying 😉

        • synchromystic

          It’s funny that their motive of achieving what they want by lying to the public is like a motif in that it repeats through history.

    • Critic

      Mate, a few things to keep in mind:

      – the motif: to win the PR war against Russia and to gain billions of funding for rocket research (think long range missiles) for a decade or more

      – with the exception of the astronauts very few people would have needed to know about a possible fraud (similar to  911).
      – unmanned moon landings prior or after Appollo 11 could have taken samples and left mirrors there
      –  Brown’s expedition to the Antarctic could have yielded him meteorites
      – Kubriks wife saying Nasa approached him to make a movie and the stage and setup and timing of his 2010 was a convenient coincidence.
      – the astronauts behaviour was odd when approached to swear by god…
      – Ford was sued for stealing the technology of an intermittent wind screenwiper years after the moonlanding – was Ford light years behind NASA?
      – why would anyone really go to the moon when all that is needed is the video footage and perhaps some moon rock.

      the moon rock may be the strongest piece of evidence for a moonlanding – but I wonder if anyone could say for sure what moonrock would look like if nobody has ever seen one. Modifying a meteorite may be easier than flying to the moon…

      I am not saying we should not believe it. But we should be critical. After all the US government has a decade long history of deception – read Noam Chomsky or the officially admitted conspiracies like Watergate, Golf of Tonkin etc… and an enormous motif.

      I should say I haven’t seen this movie but other footage and read a lot..

    • Critic

      Mate, a few things to keep in mind:

      – the motif: to win the PR war against Russia and to gain billions of funding for rocket research (think long range missiles) for a decade or more

      – with the exception of the astronauts very few people would have needed to know about a possible fraud (similar to  911).
      – unmanned moon landings prior or after Appollo 11 could have taken samples and left mirrors there
      –  Brown’s expedition to the Antarctic could have yielded him meteorites
      – Kubriks wife saying Nasa approached him to make a movie and the stage and setup and timing of his 2010 was a convenient coincidence.
      – the astronauts behaviour was odd when approached to swear by god…
      – Ford was sued for stealing the technology of an intermittent wind screenwiper years after the moonlanding – was Ford light years behind NASA?
      – why would anyone really go to the moon when all that is needed is the video footage and perhaps some moon rock.

      the moon rock may be the strongest piece of evidence for a moonlanding – but I wonder if anyone could say for sure what moonrock would look like if nobody has ever seen one. Modifying a meteorite may be easier than flying to the moon…

      I am not saying we should not believe it. But we should be critical. After all the US government has a decade long history of deception – read Noam Chomsky or the officially admitted conspiracies like Watergate, Golf of Tonkin etc… and an enormous motif.

      I should say I haven’t seen this movie but other footage and read a lot..

    • Anonymous

      agreed. and then some…

    • Cottonhobbs

      This story is loaded with assumptions spoken as fact. “The shuttle only goes 356 miles above the earth so Apollo couldnt have gone further.” Following that logic, my Cessna only goes 15,000 ft above the earth so the Shuttle cant go 356 miles!! OMG, the Shuttle was a conspiracy !!!

    • JackCool

      Ok, let me clarify:

      1 Nixon NEVER lied to US citizens !
      2 USA is land of peace, freedom, love and genuine prosperity !
      3 NSA is transparent and democratic institution !
      4 Media is well used educational tool, spreading virtues and good message !
      5 Apollo went straight ahead, all well, all good, hip, hip huraaay !
      6 Moon is used for cultivation of super exotic medicinal plants ?!? ahem..

      Bless you all.. love you all.. be good, join the army.. see you later

      • Whaiapo

        BAHAHA I love sarcasm.

      • Anonymous

        “USA is land of peace, freedom, love and genuine prosperity” haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa maybe was 60-70 years ago the jews are running you straight to the ground. JOIN THE US ARMY AND GO FIGHT FOR ISRAEL!!!! haaaa

        • JackCool

          Love it .. Check this :)

        • daddyB

          screw Israel.

    • mike

       marky mark.,,
      you are full of bullsh*t .,,,no matter how old you are ,,,but if you believe humans were ever on the moon ,you really nead a doctor.,,,

    • Gavin

      wishfull thinking, they didnt go to the moon, and even if they did it was all piggy backed on nazi german tech, all modern rockets are

    • Truth!

      I thought scientist’s had ‘proved’ there was noway “solar wind” could’ve shaped and moved the american flag as they were walking. It was on video, as if the flag was exposed to the wind on earth…they also did experiments and mimick’d the way the flag was moving on the moon via video footage. Little did they know :)

      • Moondaughter

        Yeah just because some “scientists” have it “on video” makes it real scientific proof! (Yeah that’s sarcastic)
        Don’t you ever watch Mythbusters? Even THEY proved that you don’t need wind to make a flag move in a vacuum. Check it out at Netflix, it’s interesting stuff that debunks 3 of the conspiracy theorists arguments. If the goofballs on Mythbusters can disprove the conspiracy guys, then I think it’s very possible that it happened!
        Also, my dad worked on some of the components that went to the Moon, and if HE thought there was any way it was faked, he would’ve talked about it. How DO you keep over 400,000 people who worked on the Moon projects over the years quiet in a society like ours anyways?

        • dave

          mythbusters also proved that the moon landing could be hoaxed here on earth dweeb

        • dave

          its a pyramid not everyone knows what is going on thats how u keep 400,000 mouths shut

        • i_drink_Scope

          “Also, my dad worked on some of the components that went to the Moon”

          and there surfaces the bias. i mean how can such an honorable man as your father be a part of a government cover-up???

    • Dopplerduck

       Docking: They regularly dock at 18000 miles/hr in earth orbit.

    • BitStream

      Thanks!

      I read the synopsis and then read your (excellent) post.

      I’ll skip this one.

  • karabiner

    A shit documentary written and narrated by a tit. No evidence just hearsay and conjecture from a sad obviously bored idiot with nout else to do. I don’t know if the the landings are true or not but upon this effort i’m inclined to believe they are, but i won’t. thanks for nothing!

  • you wish

    What a bunch of retarded comments! Of course no country was ever able to send people to the Moon. It was a pure propaganda for people to think they are actually powerful and we’re ‘so advanced’.. It’s just mainly feeding the ego of American society that government really has power and wohooa they can make us go to the Moon and maybe fight the aliens.. yeah, great – in 1969 they could pull that off, but not anymore. Any everyone wonders why.. Sick what a good picture and bunch of paid off people can do.

    • You Wish Is Prick

      What a retarded comment! Of course 12 men have been to the Moon. 

  • Klops

     I find it hard to understand the level of emotions posted in these comments. Whether or not we went to the moon – who the hell really cares? And what does it change? Meanwhile there are real, serious problems going on here on our own earth that might well be more worth tackling than wasting time on possible CIA conspiracies…

  • USBS

    A large majority of the 209,000,00 US population was duped in 1969. It’s evident that 42 years later, the myth lives on in a large majority of the 309,000,000 people.

    • Kaspar

      Then a large majority of the population are retards.

  • Pavanbg Njoy

    Its true that they never landed. There is a sying, “If you can’t make it then fake it”. It holds good here. 

    • Zachary

      There is a saying, “Pavanbg Njoy is an idiot and talks bollocks.” 

      • Pavanbg Njoy

        Sayings cant be requoted buddy. Just be cool and accept the fact.

        • Anonymous

          It would be easy to accept the fact, if you even remotely stated one, which you clearly have not.

      • Pavanbg Njoy

        Sayings cant be requoted buddy. Just be cool and accept the fact.

    • Zachary

      There is a saying, “Pavanbg Njoy is an idiot and talks bollocks.” 

  • bluemax

    how can they land on the moon when we cannot land it now thats fucking retarded

  • Jasondshaw

    If you keep watching after the ludicrous misquoted Clinton opening, it’s worth it to see him get a smack in the mouth near the end. 

  • ANGRYPOSTSMAKEMEFEELGOOD

    To those of you using incredibly angry language in these comments:  You are okay.  Close your eyes for a moment and remember that you are a human being – breathing and living.  If sending hateful energy into the world (and hearts of other human beings just like your loved ones) is still something you need to do, then see if you can find it in your heart to eat a dick.  

    Annnyways, seriously, forgive yourself for being an asshole already.  Here’s a sweet lecture on how reality is even more than a manifestation OF consciousness, but it IS consciousness!  Moon hoax? Schmoon hoax! It’s all consciousness.  

    documentaryheaven.com/the-primacy-of-consciousness/

  • ANGRYPOSTSMAKEMEFEELGOOD

    To those of you using incredibly angry language in these comments:  You are okay.  Close your eyes for a moment and remember that you are a human being – breathing and living.  If sending hateful energy into the world (and hearts of other human beings just like your loved ones) is still something you need to do, then see if you can find it in your heart to eat a dick.  

    Annnyways, seriously, forgive yourself for being an asshole already.  Here’s a sweet lecture on how reality is even more than a manifestation OF consciousness, but it IS consciousness!  Moon hoax? Schmoon hoax! It’s all consciousness.  

    documentaryheaven.com/the-primacy-of-consciousness/

  • Martin

    It’s typical that a moon-hoax-theorist has no well-rounded understanding of the core of the issue, that is to say, the physics relevant to spaceflight. Did anyone walk on the Moon? I don’t know, since I haven’t been there. But I do know for a firm fact that it’s possible to get to the Moon, and that it was possible and plausible in the 1960s. Listen to the narrator’s voice: it’s some kid who thinks we were living in caves and wearing bison skins back then. To those in the know there’s no big mystery to getting to the Moon. The core physics has been known literally for centuries. As of the mid-20th-Century it became purely an engineering problem, and all it takes is to throw enough money at it. 

  • Martin

    It’s typical that a moon-hoax-theorist has no well-rounded understanding of the core of the issue, that is to say, the physics relevant to spaceflight. Did anyone walk on the Moon? I don’t know, since I haven’t been there. But I do know for a firm fact that it’s possible to get to the Moon, and that it was possible and plausible in the 1960s. Listen to the narrator’s voice: it’s some kid who thinks we were living in caves and wearing bison skins back then. To those in the know there’s no big mystery to getting to the Moon. The core physics has been known literally for centuries. As of the mid-20th-Century it became purely an engineering problem, and all it takes is to throw enough money at it. 

  • Muukiithefinn

    Oh man. This video is comedy GOLD!

  • bobbyweez

    thankyou marky mark. that was perfect.

  • Yuri Gagarin

    The only person to ever really do a moonwalk was Michael Jackson.

  • Yuri Gagarin

    The only person to ever really do a moonwalk was Michael Jackson.

  • Den Hickey

    I’d be more convinced if it were engineers being interviewed about how the spacecraft worked rather than an astronaut.  While those guys did know a lot about the craft… they sure didn’t design them or know as much about them as the guys who did.

  • Den Hickey

    I’d be more convinced if it were engineers being interviewed about how the spacecraft worked rather than an astronaut.  While those guys did know a lot about the craft… they sure didn’t design them or know as much about them as the guys who did.

  • bankman

    marky mark, ye protest too much …..

    A former Apollo astronaut who did not even realize he went through the belts, then suddenly changes his story!

    Tells again how Apollo 13 “sling shotted itself” back to earth using only the moon’s gravity.

  • bankman

    marky mark, ye protest too much …..

    A former Apollo astronaut who did not even realize he went through the belts, then suddenly changes his story!

    Tells again how Apollo 13 “sling shotted itself” back to earth using only the moon’s gravity.

    • Terry

      yeah it’s so fucken hard to understand that gravity thing without much of a brain,  please attend the next natural disaster.. lol

  • bankman

    Does anyone have the original Apollo 11 landing and telementry tapes?

    Oh I forgot, NASA has told the public that the agency lost and taped over them.

    I’ll wait until the original “new” versions come out of the special effects and processing center located in Hollywood, California which NASA commissioned to recreate the “original” landing.

    So by 2020 you will be able to hear NASA officials telling school kids, “you can see from these new enhanced original films we recreated after losing the originals that clearly this is proof we went to the moon”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000887149520 William Montgomery

    I’m sorry, I have to say we pulled it off.

    I have to write the people who say we didn’t pull it off in the same catagory as people who think the Holocaust didn’t happen…there is overwhelming evidence that it did.I bet this dude wasn’t even alive in 1969.
    I’m not going to lie, neither was I, but this is just too big to hide. like he said, most of the scientists were ex-nazi’s who were brainwashed to hate the united states…it only takes one to crack it open…

    • Bankman

       This nonsense is not the issue. To smear those who ask, who question, who seek to learn all of what really has been claimed is a crime of the worse degree.Such a comment, which includes a direct reference to the Jewish Holocaust, is the most despicable tactic of those fanatical zealots who seek to believe no matter what the reality of the situation.Perhaps what is claimed is true, perhaps it is open to question and further examination.William Montgomery, have not a sense of humility but to insult those brave Jews and loyal Americans who only seek to live in free and open societies? Despicable and such an insult to those brave Jews who have paid with their lives.
      This nonsense is not the issue. To smear those who ask, who question, who seek to learn all of what really has been claimed is a crime of the worse degree.
      Such a comment, which includes a direct reference to the Jewish Holocaust, is the most despicable tactic of those fanatical zealots who seek to believe no matter what the reality of the situation.
      Perhaps what is claimed is true, perhaps it is open to question and further examination.
      William Montgomery, have not a sense of humility but to insult those brave Jews and loyal Americans who only seek to live in free and open societies?
      Despicable and such an insult to those brave Jews who have paid with their lives.

    • Bankman

       This nonsense is not the issue. To smear those who ask, who question, who seek to learn all of what really has been claimed is a crime of the worse degree.Such a comment, which includes a direct reference to the Jewish Holocaust, is the most despicable tactic of those fanatical zealots who seek to believe no matter what the reality of the situation.Perhaps what is claimed is true, perhaps it is open to question and further examination.William Montgomery, have not a sense of humility but to insult those brave Jews and loyal Americans who only seek to live in free and open societies? Despicable and such an insult to those brave Jews who have paid with their lives.
      This nonsense is not the issue. To smear those who ask, who question, who seek to learn all of what really has been claimed is a crime of the worse degree.
      Such a comment, which includes a direct reference to the Jewish Holocaust, is the most despicable tactic of those fanatical zealots who seek to believe no matter what the reality of the situation.
      Perhaps what is claimed is true, perhaps it is open to question and further examination.
      William Montgomery, have not a sense of humility but to insult those brave Jews and loyal Americans who only seek to live in free and open societies?
      Despicable and such an insult to those brave Jews who have paid with their lives.

      • Andy Bailey

        sorry, and please correct me if im missing something, but I’m not seeing how William Montgomery despicably  smeared and insulted the Jews and the American’s
        I may be wrong by is this response not guilty of your own criticism and is simply attacking Montgomery instead of addressing the issue? 

    • Bankman

       This nonsense is not the issue. To smear those who ask, who question, who seek to learn all of what really has been claimed is a crime of the worse degree.Such a comment, which includes a direct reference to the Jewish Holocaust, is the most despicable tactic of those fanatical zealots who seek to believe no matter what the reality of the situation.Perhaps what is claimed is true, perhaps it is open to question and further examination.William Montgomery, have not a sense of humility but to insult those brave Jews and loyal Americans who only seek to live in free and open societies? Despicable and such an insult to those brave Jews who have paid with their lives.
      This nonsense is not the issue. To smear those who ask, who question, who seek to learn all of what really has been claimed is a crime of the worse degree.
      Such a comment, which includes a direct reference to the Jewish Holocaust, is the most despicable tactic of those fanatical zealots who seek to believe no matter what the reality of the situation.
      Perhaps what is claimed is true, perhaps it is open to question and further examination.
      William Montgomery, have not a sense of humility but to insult those brave Jews and loyal Americans who only seek to live in free and open societies?
      Despicable and such an insult to those brave Jews who have paid with their lives.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000887149520 William Montgomery

    I’m sorry, I have to say we pulled it off.

    I have to write the people who say we didn’t pull it off in the same catagory as people who think the Holocaust didn’t happen…there is overwhelming evidence that it did.I bet this dude wasn’t even alive in 1969.
    I’m not going to lie, neither was I, but this is just too big to hide. like he said, most of the scientists were ex-nazi’s who were brainwashed to hate the united states…it only takes one to crack it open…

  • Duf5000

    Still waiting to know how they could have faked images from the moon that line up exactly with the 3d mapping we now have of the lunar surface. (the topography of the moon isn’t only supplied buy the USA so you can just say the data is faked)

    So many of the points the hoax theorist bring up as easily disproved. The old “why are there no stars in the pics”, “why do shadows look on different angles” show that these people fail to understand even basic photography. That is just the start of it.

  • The People

    okay first off im so happy Buzz smashed that guy in the face! you just don’t yell at someone especially someone who is famous.Also all of you incompetent morons who are under the false ideals that we haven’t landed on the moon will be proven wrong when we land there in 2020. If you really want answers about the apollo missions why not just go ask individuals in Mission Control if the landings were real! Maybe you are all just jealous that you didn’t get to go to the moon in your generation because now you are all in your 30 or 40 and are out of shape and can never qualify to go on any space mission.

  • Not convinced by this

    Amateurish ‘documentary’

  • Guest

    The United States government is full of lies and dumbs down then whole nation by design, Americans are the only ones who believe what they are told while every other country looks at them with a puzzled look on their face. Not saying they landed or they didn’t, just saying it’s hard to believe the American government at anything. You can’t even rely on your pension or speak freely without being called a terrorist in that sad country.

  • Andy Bailey

    Poor attempt at a documentary with poor effort going into scientific research, esp the case when talking about the Van Allen rings, and ‘nice’ use of Clinton’s quotes taken out of context from someone who has obviously not read his autobiography. Simply give the impression that the writer is looking for ratings.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=593051003 Jack Lee

    This is such tedious crap. You have to be such a damn fool to think the moon landings didn’t happen. You have to be a complete idiot to follow this nonsense.

    Do find something real to make a documentary about, rather than show what an idiot you are.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=593051003 Jack Lee

    This is such tedious crap. You have to be such a damn fool to think the moon landings didn’t happen. You have to be a complete idiot to follow this nonsense.

    Do find something real to make a documentary about, rather than show what an idiot you are.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=593051003 Jack Lee

    This is such tedious crap. You have to be such a damn fool to think the moon landings didn’t happen. You have to be a complete idiot to follow this nonsense.

    Do find something real to make a documentary about, rather than show what an idiot you are.

  • Bruce

    Why the cash incentive from the American military for research and development of inter-planentary travel? If they already have the leg up on the competition? Why recruit the public sector? This would creating the possibility of losing ground to others who could buy the info?  
           Unless you don’t have the info. In which case the craft of stealing from the poor for their ideas for pennies on the dollar has become a vicious tactic and policy in the Tech world. Corporations love to capture ideas from young and eager yet naive developers and engineers and turn them into “intellectual property” of the Corporation and believe me the US military is a corporation. Regardless of the goal ever being reached the amount of patents captured in the process would account for trillions in profits for a military corporation whose sole role is to impact the violence it takes to secure the reality of the current regimes persona.     So I asked why does the military need to offer up a cash reward for things………..?Profit and profit alone. If they had truly landed on the moon and had the info they now wish to acquire from the public. Why would you risk the exposure to competition for the trillions of dollars these new technologies would create?
          So we have the math to find locations by shadows,moon phases and such. At the time of the alleged landing did we not have photos that looked back on the earth from a distance measurable by said photos? Do they Match up with a closure orbit or a further one based on comparisons with modern photos. Did they have the capabilities to “photo shop” that into pics of the earth from space. When did the first photos of earth taken and when were they released to the public. How about pics of the orbiting of the moon that match the orbiting of the earth pics. You would think the surely have photos of both the moon and the earth. I mean you going to the fucking moon you had better take a lot of photos. I mean for collecting info the weight of photos is not of concern so the more the better in comparison to collecting rocks with physical demands of transport.
          Batteries? to power all the film equipment? Really? Battery technology is restricted by physics and the amount of electrons we can squeeze onto a plate. We are now reaching the limits with only now using elements like Lithium batteries and some other exotics. None of which were available at the time. So To have the Power needed to operate the whole outfit would have taken a battery pack the size of a Railway car.  The size of the computer used for the event has been condensed into hand held size. And the batteries to power the technology would be in comparison. 

  • Doc king

    good doc but that guys voice is a tad annoying,or was that just me??

  • TheSweatyButcher

    buzz has a mean hook

  • TheSweatyButcher

    buzz has a mean hook

  • Bigmatty88

    Well put Marky Mark

    In the end, no amount of money, murder, technology or man power could keep 400,000 people from telling the truth. Especially not rocket scientists. I would assume that devoting your life to science, locking yourself up in a lab, crunching numbers and never getting laid…. ever, unless of course it was in a dream you had one time when you fell asleep on top of your equations, would not be a path taken by people who weren’t genuinely interested in furthering human knowledge and uncovering the mysteries of the Universe.

    If the moon landing was false that would mean the majority of these rocket scientists were just in it for the money and the babes.

    BUT  I will say that the interview that took place 48 seconds in to part 2 raised my eyebrows. That man really did seem to be lying. I’m not sure about what.. but he looked like me when I tell lies.

    Also, as mentioned in other comments the sheer mass of moon rocks brought back and distributed around the world prove the missions did happen. 
     As I mentioned earlier about the rocket scientists and their dedication to their field, same goes for geologists. People who spend their 40 hour work week looking at rocks, rocks and more rocks wouldn’t really be that easy to fool. 

  • Ripleyrichard

    i once thought it was the greatest lie ever told. now i know full well that we MUST have. even myth busters say so!! most of what this guy says is not just wrong but missleading. 

  • Ripleyrichard

    i once thought it was the greatest lie ever told. now i know full well that we MUST have. even myth busters say so!! most of what this guy says is not just wrong but missleading. 

  • Ripleyrichard

    i once thought it was the greatest lie ever told. now i know full well that we MUST have. even myth busters say so!! most of what this guy says is not just wrong but missleading. 

  • jesus in another guise

    @4e22ee3425217270afd1382bec452a89:disqus  I dont agree with your mythbusters quote, I think they just proved that you can fake a moon landing on earth but there is one video on the net which apparently shows them flying through the Van Alen belt half way to the moon but all the pictures look fake without that video I wouldnt believe it for a second.

  • Guest

    guys, u need top get hobby’s or girlfriends or something, this is weak. really, really weak.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sheldon-J-Cooper/100002571330936 Sheldon J Cooper

    What a bunch of illiterate morons.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sheldon-J-Cooper/100002571330936 Sheldon J Cooper

    It is not an alleged accomplishment you scientifically illiterate goons.  I can go into my backyard and shoot a laser at the Apollo 11 lunar laser ranging retroreflector…..case closed.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sheldon-J-Cooper/100002571330936 Sheldon J Cooper

    It is not an alleged accomplishment you scientifically illiterate goons.  I can go into my backyard and shoot a laser at the Apollo 11 lunar laser ranging retroreflector…..case closed.  

  • Daniel B

    The landing areas have now also been imaged with telescopes, i don’t know what more proof anyone needs.

    The average human is so stupid, its infuriating.

  • Buzz Aldrin

    What the fuck??!?

  • Theonlyonewhoreallygetsit

    Oh, you poor, naive fools. There IS no moon! It was invented in 1472 by FDR in order to trick the Visigoths into invading Ancient Rome. However, the myth is maintained so that no one will ever figure out why we REALLY have tides…

    • luzz

      so why is there a moon and tides?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IINBQ24LBRBNRWGUM7BN7EWMJ4 Dave

      long trip for a laugh..but i liked it…i hope luzz wasn’t serious. FDR lived a long time huh?

    • John Smith

      You can’t explain that!

  • Theonlyonewhoreallygetsit

    Oh, you poor, naive fools. There IS no moon! It was invented in 1472 by FDR in order to trick the Visigoths into invading Ancient Rome. However, the myth is maintained so that no one will ever figure out why we REALLY have tides…

  • Mr.Darwind

    Already been busted by myth busters TV show. FACT: USA did land on the moon.

  • Mr.Darwind

    Already been busted by myth busters TV show. FACT: USA did land on the moon.

  • Danny Del Rossi

    Clinton was referring NOT to the moon landing specifically, but to “some things” he saw on television. What rubbish!

  • Bob

    The proof that there was no moon landing is that there is no giant sign written in 200ft letters on the Moon’s surface saying, “IN YOUR FACE COMMIES!”

    Just kidding. I know for a fact that the US has been on the moon because I have a telescope and I can clearly make out a giant oil stain, a carelessly smoldering campfire and 50+ glad bags full of garbage.

    • ICE

      LMFAO….and a couple Hotels where you can get married by Elvis.

      You do all know that it was daffy Duck and Porky Pig posing as Joe Monday and Tuesday flying that spaceship right?
      Nuff said. 

  • Anonymous
  • Zeke

    I haven’t seen this movie,nor do i intend to watch it as it is old worn out history. I was ten years old in 1969 and watched all this on the tube with my family , as did the rest of America/World. What i can not justify looking back a life time later is the colossal waste of money it took from the American tax payer to do it. That same money could have been spent here on earth ,and have been better spent in many more ways then for 200Lbs of “moon rock”.I could have gone out into the Arizona desert and gotten that for free, or a half tank of gas.It very much sadins me when i think of the waste that this country drops.We the people,and of the world do not need 14 aircraft carriers. We do not need 56 nuclear sub marines.We do not need America being the police force of the world.And we do not need NASA.What we need is cleaner water,cleaner air.And new technology’s for dealing with the ills of this world, because i’ll tell you people this. If man kind dose not come together, and work together in accordance with the better angles of our natures, to find answers for the problems that this world faces, in the not to distant future, we as a spices in this world, and perhaps for a time the world itself.Is doomed.Moon Rocks..  And as for space exploration. I could care less. But if it has to be how about this proposal. For every 100 dollars that NASA raises of private money.We the people will put in 1 dollar of tax money. Then the people who want this the most can pay for it them selves.  

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Quinten-Fisher/100000386274700 Quinten Fisher

      space exploration is anything but waste! your mother shouldnt have wasted all the food she fed you to keep you breathing

    • no one here is smart enough

      I also do not think that space exploration is a waste. It is just a waste right now. We have to many problems here for us to be wasting our time and resources trying to reach places that won’t have benifits for centuries. Solve our problems here and then we will explore space. If we can’t live on this planet, then we will never be able to live in space.

  • Anonymous

    Wow – turns out you can see the landing site and other things on the moon now with optical telescopes.

    Just wondering how daft conspiracy theorists cope when their world crashes down around them.

    Thoughts?

  • Guest

    My guess is that whoever doesn’t believe in the moon landing also believes that JFK wasn’t assassinated by Lee Oswald, our government was responsible for 9/11, and Osama Bin Laden is still alive.  Seriously, try to prove these things (including that the moon landing was a hoax), but I promise you will not win.

    Also, explain who was controlling the Apollo shuttle in space and every single space mission after that, what are the points of having astronauts, and how tides are created.  Enlighten me.

  • Aquila

    Are you proposing that 1960s special effects technology was good enough to convincingly fake a moon landing? Even top of the line 2011 CGI can’t match the authenticity of the moon landing footage. Do something better with your time, trying to convince the world that the moon landings were fake is a complete waste.

  • Aquila

    Are you proposing that 1960s special effects technology was good enough to convincingly fake a moon landing? Even top of the line 2011 CGI can’t match the authenticity of the moon landing footage. Do something better with your time, trying to convince the world that the moon landings were fake is a complete waste.

  • Alex Efrain Sarmiento Muñoz

    There are some mirrors  at the moon installed by astronauts…. you can use a laser to prove it.

    • no one here is smart enough

      You must not have watched the whole documentary.

  • Anonymous

    This is stupid. Anyone that compares crossing the Atlantic and a trip to the Moon in any way other than metaphorically, is a fucking idiot.

  • Carlkav

    I have a friend that thinks just like the people that made this bullshit. I feel sorry for for people like this. Going through life thinking that everyone is aganist you, cannot be very good for you or your children. Please seek help. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Quinten-Fisher/100000386274700 Quinten Fisher

    i love listening to people with down syndrome, so entertaining with there strange sounds and twirling wash rags. drool running down there face! ohhhh wait, this about the moon!! who would have thought, being there is nothing but rejects who just happen to know how type (kind of) about the moon landing being fake!! its obvious we made it to the moon, with all the evidence how can you deny the fact. people just like to argue, thats all it comes down to. willing to bet the people that say they dont believe the moon landing happened, actually do believe it happened. its the argument that gives them the erection they desire and im sure its a small one.

    • no one here is smart enough

      So you too love to argue. Please post information that you say is the evidence. I never remember seeing any. But i would love to read up on it.

  • Anonymous

    well done marky mark ‘i like to think you are the real marky mark ”
    Mark Wahlberg shooting down the haters like you did in the movie shooter
    😉

  • Samtheham98

    The space shuttles never left orbit because they werent designed to go into outer space.I have always thought we went to the moon i sat all night watching it live when i was 12 and i would be devastated to find out it was all pretend. As i get old i am begining to realise that all is not as it seems in the world have i been nieve in my beliefs? I can only guess its such a huge achievement that most people just cant believe it was done such a distance? But i think most of those people also beilieve that aliens are travelling millions of light years to flash a few lights at us they fly back home   its a funny old world.

  • Tim

    @57a49f9f84b63f83325250e71ebba9a7:disqus another crushing blow to conspiracy theorists is that when they landed they placed mirrors on the surface of the moon which are still there today in order to be able to calculate the exact distance of the moon by shining a laser at these mirrors. That is proof that we were there.

  • Michael lehoczky

     ugh this doco makes me angry. it’s all just statements with no evidence. The whole this is “do you really think this could happen” and OMG something written in the 50’s as a hypothetical idea dose not constitute a valid point!!

  • Retrovo
  • Hope Assassin

    Unwatchable.  Truly ridiculous.  It amazes me that there are people who are willing to put in the time and effort to make documentaries attempting to cast doubt on it, but they are not willing to read a few junior-high level science articles that would clear up the doubts they have.  I guess it’s more fun to live in world where evil conspiracies rule, aliens abduct people, and Chupacabras rule the Latin American countryside.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Axel-White/1153414791 Axel White

    Dang good documenting. Another satisfied documentarian here.

    • http://www.facebook.com/BrunoSweetdog Bruno Sweetdog

      maaan! youre such a talent!!!

  • StevenLillie

    What a boneheaded documentary. Every single point should offend anyone with a little knowledge of the Apollo program, and the rest of the world at that time. What about the fact that if you set up a large enough telescope, you can see the lander, rover, and even the footprints on the moon’s surface?

    • no one is smart enough

      And you have this telescope to see for yourself and have. I have not and can not afford a super massive telescope myself. Nor can I go over to NASA and borrow one of theirs. If you do have one, I am glad that you can prove to yourself that this happened.

    • ICE

      You idiot. Anyone that doesn’t know that the Apollo program from start to finish was one of the most prolific failures and attempts by humanity to attain a goal or at least portray that goal as attainable ond know that it never transpired….is a blithering idiot. It culminated in billions of dollars and dozens of lives lost all for purposes of propoganda to fend off the threat of nuclear holocaust. It was nothing more than orbiting the globe, many attempts of which ended in massive disaster. The USA staged the final show of the Moon Landing because they had no choice but too….the money was gone and they had accomplished what they had set out too….and that was to make the Russians take note and STAND down. 

      The technology to travel to the moon and more importantly successfully return human life back to earth was NOT available then and it still is no where to be found NOW. Deal with it.Otherwise one of the major powers would have been back to the moon with greater accomplishments since and likely had a FUCKING Denny’s built while they were there.

  • Anonymous

         For all the youngsters out there that don’t believe there was moon landings (conspiracy) my advice is to concentrate on the assassination of JFK and the events of 9 11. Since we haven’t returned to the moon in 40 years, it is easy to understand why the youth don’t believe it happened. For the record, if mankind wanted to return to the moon, it would take a 10 year concerted effort like it did last time because we gave up all the knowledge to concentrate on the space shuttle program. With that said, we could probably successfully send people to Mars, but the effort would be folly, at least until we can go back and forth to the moon as easily as we fly across the ocean. Besides, there are many things the moon has that we need (helium for example) and if there was any problems, there is a chance for survival and rescue, none of which is at all possible on a Mars Journey.    

  • fuckgreece

    this documentary is retarded. Watch Secret Space
    http://www.videolinks4u.net/video/videos/223183/

  • CoolDud3

    The narraters voice is irritating 

  • marketingmanaic

    Really?  ow my god,, k,, hmm,, well,, we didn’t go to the moon,, then how certain are you that we made it into space,, cause it take nearly no fule to get to the moon with zero gravity?,, so,, you say we made it into space but not the moon,, all you would have to do is point your ship in the general direction and you will eventually make it there on a single 9 volt battery if you wanted to !,, think about it bud.

  • YukonGrizz

    Soooooooooo many naive and just stupid people out there that realy think the moon landings were hoxed…. how sad when you think of what that actualy says about the average intelligence of people in our society.

    • rainman

      do you think the government is not capable of widespread deceit?

  • http://twitter.com/gangefors gange

    LRO has taken very nice images of the moon and you can clearly see the markings of the lunar activities that took place. Why the hell are you even discussing this? There is no discussion since you have been and always will be proven wrong. Even if you personally don’t accept defeat, I take pride in the fact that we as a human race won and conquered the moon in the late ’60s.
    http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/news/apollo-sites.html
    http://www.space.com/12835-nasa-apollo-moon-landing-sites-photos-lro.html
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14813043

    • No one here is smart enough

      I don’t know enough about physics and space but It doesn’t make sense to believe something happened just because a bunch of people said so. Also, the documentary makes some pretty great arguments against it happening. It also makes no sense for you to take pride in an accomplishment that you had no part in, even though you are a part of the human race. So unless you have enough knowledge on all of the subjects that would go into proving the moon landing, I would say that your comment really has no point other than to add to the many comments just saying that it’s stupid to say that it might not have happened.

  • Skeptic

    You all fail!! The moon is a lie, it does not exist!

  • Foadus

    We made it to the moon but got told to stay away

  • clueless

    If it didn’t happen, who took the pictures of the Earth (if not Bill Anders)?

  • Dark Prince

    the mirrors on the moon people were left their by accident. They are actually the property of Optimus Prime, leader of the Autobots, who had lost them when bumble crashed into him from playing tag with Shockwave who got pissed off and farted hence his name. As for the 400000 ppl that kept this secret well most of them are dead or in a nut house thanks to their sponsors the C.I.A..what American Governments will not tell you is, the moon is actually great for growing dope, so when Marky Mark say’s, “there’s nothing there” there is. its only invisible to the untrained eye, for there is beauty in the nothingness.

  • Dark Prince

    the mirrors on the moon people were left their by accident. They are actually the property of Optimus Prime, leader of the Autobots, who had lost them when Bumble Bee crashed into him from playing tag with Shockwave who got pissed off and farted hence his name. As for the 400000 ppl that kept this secret well most of them are dead or in a nut house thanks to their sponsors the C.I.A…what American Governments will not tell you is, the moon is actually great for growing dope, so when Marky Mark say’s, “there’s nothing there” there is. its only invisible to the untrained eye, for there is beauty in the nothingness.

  • Anusan Moorthy
  • Anusan Moorthy
  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YCMVYTNKYCUX7BS4JRATO7CWCA ThisIs

    @marky mark – thanks for doing the phil plait duty, much obliged, but I think with an absolute irredeemable piece of garbage like this its possibly pointless: it allows it into the arena of argument with real documentaries, whereas we’d all prefer it stayed in the $2 shop and broke after a week’ use.  :)

  • saoirse

    it saddens me the debate this bullshit elicits when real documentaries have none. 356 comments. i clicked on here hoping for a few funny comments from lunatics and idiots but its just sad. 

  • guest

    I had a thought about this, the lunar lander had two batteries, with a total of just under 18000 watts, i wondered if that was actually enough power to run all the systems on the lunar lander for two days ?  after all, they had to shut down almost all systems on the lunar lander, when they used it as a lifeboat for 3 days.

    Also, the temperature of space is near absolute zero, as anyone knows who owns a car, a battery can rapidly lose upto 50% of its charge in cold weather and in a single night, how did they prevent this ?  as the lunar lander plans, show the batteries are easily exposed to the outside cold of space.  Imagine if the batteries had lost half there charge ?  it would have spelled almost certain death to the astronauts, and even if not, i dont think 18000 watts could run all the systems, esp the heaters and coolers for two days on the moon.

  • guest

    I believe they may have orbited the moon, i dont think that was beyond there capabilities at the time, they simply went into orbit around the moon, waited 2 or 3 days, then came back.
    The thing which caused nasa the greatest problems of all, was the lunar lander, and i dont think they ever did get it to work.
    The astronauts definetely went into space, they also talk as if they went to the moon, but it becomes quite murky when you actually get to ‘having landed on the moon itself’, for which most evidence seems to suggest they did not.  I suspect moon rocks were gathered from antartica, and other meteorite collectors, and all signs of them having been on the earth erased, which is perfectly possible.  The moon photo’s and video, seem too good and too ‘staged’
    To consider the immense difficulty of first getting down to the moon in this uncontrolable lunar lander, and the even more difficult getting off the moon and docking with the command module, in 1969 ?  Its a highly risky manouvre today with specialised computer systems and guidance lasers.

  • guest

    Mind you, this guy making this is a knob

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/RTDRRWIIOIWNO43WQGM3C3FLLQ Jack Clews

    Has anyone ever considered that the astronaughts that originally went to the moon were tricked into thinking they had, that way they would never be lying about going ? 

  • hgalro

    Mythbusters

  • hgalro

    Mythbusters

  • Roadkillzilla

    If they really did go to the Moon, then where’s the Cheese samples!? …. After all, everyone knows the Moon is made of Cheese!

  • arjun

    I do not understand how people can say that the moon landing was a waste of time, some of the biggest technological breakthroughs have been made because of our curiosity of space. Cell phones because of black holes research, satellite dish, kidney dialysis machine, cordless tools, bar codes, fire resistant fabric. Not to mention that the space race (The only constructive thing to come out of the cold war) fired up the imagination of kids in that generation to actually pursue the sciences and math. Which in turn lead to further innovation in the US. That is the problem with today’s kids in this country, they’re lazy and have no interest except in living for the moment. Speaking as someone who just finished doing his BS in Mech. Eng. too many kids are worried about trivial things and not the important things, like research and development. You want to know where all the jobs in America went? They went to kids in other countries that are working hard, instead of losers here watching stupid shows and wasting their time dropping out of high school. And if you honestly believe that achieving a feat like putting a MAN on the MOOD was a waste of money, you must either not be aware of all the good that it has done, or simply do not care to find out, either ways, better start learning to speak Chinese man, cause that is what it would come to if we do not get our act together.

  • Jett Rink

    Patently dishonest and purposely obtuse interpretation of what fmr. President Clinton said and meant.  His comment clearly refers to not believing everything you see on television. By lying about what Clinton said, it puts the rest of the claims in this documentary in doubt.

  • Yonatan

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mefEKqzq8cg&feature=related
    Mythbusters Moon Landing Hoax 1 HQ
    Also read marky mark comment

  • Ibiza Dave

    I’m all for a good conspiracy, even if I don’t believe in it – I think they make the world a more interesting place and I like to hear conspiracists’ reasonings. But this documentary is just godawful, I couldn’t even make it to the end.

    All the reasoning has absolutely no evidence behind it and is based on complete rubbish like “Look! The astronauts aren’t jumping about like kids in the press conference! They DIDN’T go to the moon” and “we haven’t been as far since so that PROVES we haven’t gone that far AT ALL!”

    If you’re reading this before watching the documentary, don’t bother. There are far more interesting and thought-provoking places to have a good read about the moon landing conspiracy.

    Also, just my opinion here, but the guy in the documentary is a complete tool.

  • Davej

    Haven’t y’all got something better to do with your time and energy than this?  Sheesh

  • Paulfurness

    Wouldn’t we be able to see traces of activity on the moon from a high powered telescope? Like the lander, that must be visible?

  • Maurice

    Unfortunately, I wasn’t able to watch this video beyond the first installment. However, I spent some time reading your comments and I think it’s only fair that I comment on that.

    The real problem, as I see it, is that we have a gap concerning empirical evidence. It is said, “he who is slow to believe everything and anything is of great understanding, for belief in one false principle is the beginning of all unwisdom.” I applaud all of you for making your opinions known, but I have yet to read a comment that does not show a personal bias of some kind.

    Is the sun real? Is it a construct, perhaps a plant? Are we real? Can anyone hear me? Is anyone actually reading this, or are all of these comments manufactured for my benefit by an agency charged with doing such?

    These are questions we might consider.

    I will not claim to know that we have visited the moon. I will not claim to know that we have not. Our problem, my fellow primates, is that none of us possess the skills to make a concerted claim one way or the other, given the evidence that we possess empirically.

    My suggestion to all of us interested in lunar exploration, myself included, is to gain the skills that we require to debate this intelligently. Learn mathematics. Learn physics. Let us discuss whether landing on the moon was a concrete possibility, and why we would indoctrinate ourselves to a lie if it were not. Both possibilities possess vectors that lead in the same direction. We all look up at the moon and wonder why it is there and why we wonder. We owe ourselves to do more.

  • Get a brain

    I am incredulous that people actually believe this garbage. If you believe in this ludicrous conspiracy theory you’re intellectually stunted. The so-called arguments put forward are pathetic and nothing short of embarrassing. Every piece of ‘evidence’ can be dismissed by anybody with a rudimentary knowledge of the subject and an ounce intelligence. What intrigues me most is why people wish to participate in such deception. What do they hope to gain from it? I assume it’s simply an attention seeking exercise by those with little intelligence and little achievement in their lives.

  • yoyo

    To say that governments do not lie to their constituents is a conspiracy theory easily debunked.

    This documentary is does not provide top journalistic and unbiased analytical data. Yet if one analyzes the political context of the time, as well as the technological limitations of that era (including the present one), the most logical consideration is to doubt the truth presented as the Apollo moon landings.

  • JackCool

    Look @ 4.20, module has been taking off, but then, ups.. they forgot to pick up the cameraman from the moon surface. So this footage has been taken. Then I guess, they remembered that they are one man down, so came back and pick the poor guy up, so now the footage has been brought back to Earth, just for our pleasure and proof that man has been so advanced at the time to undertake landing and taking off and coming back again to the Moon, just like that. I hope that all of you see the point, (and this particular sequence), so please cut back this silly debate for now. Just look ahead, eyes open please. Thanks. Feedback expected :), but please explain footage on 4.20 if you are so into expertise, 60-70 technology and scientific advancements in space. I feel that I do not need more proof than this.. what do you think ?

  • Ryan C.

    Dear Paulferness,

    I hope you get a chance to read this in response to your comment. If astronauts landed on the moon, they would have left some evidence of where they landed. What did they leave behind? A flag and a vehicle right? Did they leave anything else?

    As a matter of fact they did. Apollo 11 astronauts left behind reflective mirrors on the moon as well. These mirrors allow for lasers from earth to travel to the spot where the mirrors were left and then return to earth. The time it takes for the lasers to return can be measured and used to calculate the distance the moon is from the earth at that instant.

    Without the mirrors on the moon, the laser system would not work. And more interestingly, NASA does not conduct the measurements. The University of Texas in Austin has the rights to the system. Speaking from personal experience of actually seeing this system in work, I can confidently disagree with this video and all others expressing claims to the contrary. I would be interested to see evidence of the fake moon landing, but I have not come across any.

    Hope this clears up a little bit about the moon for you. It’s actually retreating from its orbit and getting further and further away each day by a few centimeters fyi.

    Sincerely,

    University of Texas Alumni

    • James

      In 2002 Dr. Richard West, an astronomer at the VLT hoped to kill off the conspiracy theory once and for all by using the Very Large Telescope (VLT) – by far the most powerful telescope in the world – to spot the Apollo lunar landers. Operated by European astronomers in the Chilean Andes, the VLT consists of four mirrors 27ft across linked by optical fibres. It can see a single human hair at a distance of 10 miles.
      Trained on the Moon, such astonishing resolution should enable it to see the base of one or more of the six lunar modules which Nasa insists landed on the Moon between 1969 and 1972. Any images of the modules would be the first not to have been taken from space by Nasa.
      Dr Richard West, an astronomer at the VLT, confirmed that his team was aiming to achieve “a high-resolution image of one of the Apollo landing sites”.
      The first attempt to spot the spacecraft will be made using only one of the VLT’s four telescope mirrors, which are fitted with special “adaptive optics” to cancel the distorting effect of the Earth’s atmosphere. A trial run of the equipment this summer produced the sharpest image of the Moon taken from the Earth, showing details 400ft across from a distance of 238,000 miles.
      The VLT team hopes to improve on this, with the aim of detecting clear evidence for the presence of the landers. The base of the lunar modules measured about 10ft across, but would cast a much longer shadow under ideal conditions.
      Dr West said that the challenge pushed the optical abilities of one VLT mirror to its limits: if this attempt failed, the team planned to use the power of all four mirrors. “They would most probably be sufficiently sharp to show something at the sites,” he said.
      Dr West insisted, however, that the decision to examine the landing sites was not driven by the conspiracy theory. “We do not question the reality of the landings,” he said. “It is more for instrument-testing purposes.”

      End Result: Dr. West was unable to spot the Apollo lunar landers.

  • Dexter

    This guy jumps to conclusions faster than a flea jumps to my cats ass.

  • Dan

    You all have the seen the photos sent back by the new lunar orbiters right? The ones that actually show the old Apollo landing sites?

    Jeez, how can anyone still believe this lunar conspiracy theory stuff? Face it non believers… we’ve been there and done that.

  • pete

    What has to be asked isn’t why hasn’t anyone been back to the Moon, but why would anyone bother? It’s astronomically expensive, and the only drive for it was the Cold War – to demonstrate the superiority of American technology and engineering over the Soviets. It’s very noticeable that after the first Moon landing the American public, the American government, and even NASA themselves lost interest. They struggled to find reasons to go back to the Moon and in the end the program was quietly cancelled – because it’s utterly pointless. Until we’re in a position to exploit the Moon for industry, there is absolutely no point going back, unless China or India want to demonstrate their technological and engineering prowess for geopolitical reasons.

    I haven’t yet heard any conspiracy theorist explain why we ever *would* have gone back. If it’s sometimes hard to justify even sending men into low Earth orbit, it’s even harder to justify the breathtaking expense of sending a few men to the Moon.

  • Bijan

    Did anyone notice the sleigh of hand in the Bill Clinton part ?
    what he said had nothing to do with the moon landing he was simply saying that ” Those fellers ” in Washington can make you believe things that never happened , he was referring to the duplicity of the government propaganda . Apparently those who made this video are practicing what they pretend to be fighting . And one more issue , how many people were involved in the Apollo project ? like 10
    thousand ? and not a single one of them ever decided to speak out ?

  • Hairy

    You people are idiots. It IS rocket science! The initial calculations for trips to the moon were worked out before World War II. The equipment left behind IS visible exactly where NASA mapped it on the moon. In fact, some equipment is still operational & used to measure the distance between the earth & the moon. See: http://physics.ucsd.edu/~tmurphy/apollo/basics.html

  • Conspiracy from Uranus

    Some of you peeps were asking why there was no evidence left of landings on the moon. NASA has these photos of the landing sites and artifacts (e.g. lunar rover) left behind: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/news/apollo-sites.html
    Enjoy!

  • Dave

    To the creator of this, I hope you have read through these comments then watched your “film” again.

    I am not saying you are wrong but I believe your little project is nothing but detrimental do your cause. If you are going to put yourself out there put something together that has some substance and if you believe it is substance then you really need to reassess your approach.

    I’ve always been open to the idea that this was a hoax given the time (cold war) and nothing like it never being attempted before but I also believe in mankind’s desire to explore and further themselves.

    I hope you make a better attempt next time.

  • Tgraham

    I enjoy conspiracy theories, if anything they are just fun to listen to and see how people back up their claims. This is one I never could get on board with. The main argument that I can’t get past is the whole “we’ve only gone 400 miles since”. Yea fair enough, but take the ocean for example. James Cameron just went down and filmed the deepest part of the ocean for the first time, does that mean that now since we’ve been there we must travel that far every time hereafter. I’m not a scientist by any stretch of the imagination, but does the space between the Earth and the moon vary that much? It’s not like if we go past that 400 mile barrier towards the moon again we might discover a new planet. Perhaps the only business/experiments we have dealing with space at the moment only requires us to go 400 so miles away. The moon is amazing, but there isn’t any form of life and differing climates or raw material that we really need to be up there studying. So why spend more money on fuel to go 50,000 miles away from earth to float around in space, when you can do it just 400 miles away?

  • mrorange

    This is the same kind of crap as denying dinosaurs ever walked on earth

  • georg wachberger

    get over it. we landed. end of story.

  • me

    I we never went to the moon…then explain how we got that stuff from the autobots ship that crashed there?
    Ha…I thought so…

  • Elletriller

    Well… if they got pictures it proves nothing – they just made it. Like the lunar missions. Got better though, colours and everything, when they went back. Six tries to make it look really real.

    Measuring – and have even seen it with own eyes – or just the program simulating this.

    Perhaps China will send back pictures – but this won’t proof anything! Or, it actually will proof the existence of New World Order, those Bilderberg-meetings is quite a ‘give-away’. Well, I guess the Babylonian Brotherhood had to meet somewhere.

    • bodey

      your fucking trolling right? cause your theory you just described sounds like a comic book, and not even a good one.

  • Jon

    Those claiming that we never landed on the Moon suggest that there is nothing concrete to prove its true. You can’t trust video or photographs, apparently.

    But here is how you CAN know that we did it: On the moon, there are a series of reflectors that have been placed there by various missions. There are laser experiments conducted using these reflectors in order to determine the distance from the earth to the moon (which increases every year).

    You, yourself, can rig up a laser system and shoot a laser at the moon and have it reflect back at you. Its proof that people were up there, putting these reflectors in place.

    So the only way one can argue that this is not legitimate is to say that the entire Moon is not real. But its real.

  • monkey

    @JackCool – The camera filming the take-off @ 4.20 ….

    Watch the documentary “From the Earth to the Moon” (Tom Hanks and Ron Howard doc on the Apollo missions).

    The last episode.. number 12, deals with how the TV camera *on the rover* was panned up, showing the ascent stage of Apollo 17’s LEM (LM) blasting off. Due to the delay caused by the distance between Earth and moon, the camera’s earth-bound director/operator had to start the camera move about six seconds before blast off.

  • Michelle

    @Maurice. Perhaps some of the commenters are in fact educated in math and physics. I have undergraduate degrees in both and am currently getting my doctorate in Physics. I can assert with confidence that the moon landing actually occurred. I could spend a lot of time giving technical counterarguments to each of the conspiracy theorists’ misconceptions and flawed basic physics, however, the most compelling evidence is purely physical.
    As one of the other commenters pointed out, we CAN in fact see the lunar landing sight with high-power telescopes, and we do still make use of some of the operational equipment there. You’d think that would effectively shut down the conspiracy theory.

    To the common question of why we haven’t gone back: despite the oft-repeated joke that NASA can’t decide on a system of units to use, we do still have the capability to make a lunar landing. But why? We’ve brought samples back already, we now have ways to study the moon remotely from earth or low-earth orbit, and it’s an astronomically expensive undertaking for almost no return. We’d do better to mine asteroids. And speaking of mining asteroids: http://www.planetaryresources.com

  • newq

    ARGUMENT.

    FROM.

    INCREDULITY.

    That sums up this “documentary”.

  • Mike

    If you had lived through the 60’s and followed the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programs you would never question the fact that we landed on the moon. The idea that the thousands of people who worked on the program all kept the secret that “the moon landings were a fake” is absurd.

    Sadly, the written comments from people who believe the moon landings never happened contain misspellings and are poorly written. The writers seem to be poorly educated…the same people who buy into conspiracy theories.

    Sometimes the lack of intelligence and gullibility of people like this make me worry about the future of our country.

  • Peanutaxis

    Just watch the mythbusters episode on this. They absolutely DEMOLISH every argument here.

  • georg wachberg

    reality of our species seems to be:

    1. every story that can be told, will be told.
    2. every story that is spread far enough will find
    believers.
    3. the more time you spend believing something
    the more you will stick to it no matter what.

    there is no way you talk a 911 conspiracy theorist
    out of it. there is no way you talk a moon hoaxer
    out of it. this is the reality of our species. the only
    thing one can do is discussing it so that newcomers
    will at least see that there is controversy about these
    points of view.

  • Marc

    Funny we now have pictures of the luna landers from an moon orbiting probe. Just because people don’t understand the science doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.. I guess we don’t have Mars landers or close up pictures of Saturn from a deep space probe either.. Yes we went to the moon.

  • Dawid Nowak

    broken video – doesn’t work

  • Schmucks

    Anyone who believes the moon landing(s) didn’t happen is an idiot.
    The crew saw extra-terrestrial vehicles (ETVs) on the moon and there was no way NASA was disclosing the real footage to the world, so what they released to the world was a staged/edited version.
    The truth is stranger than fiction schmucks.

  • Mauricio

    I want to bring 2 arguments that I don’t see on the comments about why I know that we DO go to the moon in a manner way and successfully land on it.

    First one “Common Sense”: of course that for every argument about the manned moon landing somebody can come back with something else (400,000 people involve -> just 10 of then should know the true; moon rocks -> fake it on earth and so on..) …but people tend to forget “common sense”, if I going to fake something as hard as this with so many risk to get caught, why?, why in hell I going to fake it 9 TIMES!!! going to the moon and 5 TIMES!!! landing???, that doesn’t have any sense!, I can fake it just once and then make any excuse like: it was to risky to go again, or the opposite: was to easy and now we want mars, or engines begin to fail, or there is nothing worth on the moon to go again…, or WHEREVER, why in hell I going to fake it 5 TIMES, that’s is simply absurd….

    My other argument came just from this year..do you know the GLXP contest?, is a competition for private funding teams all over the world to get back to the moon with a robot as soon as possible (it is a competition :-) and its end in 2015), the competition had a $USD30million in prices like travel 500mt and send video to earth (20millions), sourvive the moon night (1million) and so on…One of the goals is to go to an archeological site and take pictures…that’s right, there is a price to go to any landing site like the ones from the Apollo missions…I know all this because I’m chief robotic development of the Angelicvm Team participating in this contest…but that’s not all…

    Currently we are 25 teams and at least 3 of them are seriously going as soon as in 2014 (they are totally funding teams and they already have almost all hardware ready and 2 of them already pay for SpaceX rockets launch and one of them have an agreement with a China rocket facility), but there are also five or ten teams that are also serious but still having hardware difficulties of looking for fundings …so lets say that between 3 to 10 teams are actually going to do at least 1 attempt to go to the moon and win some of the prices…most of them want to land in a near Apollo site to try several awards like the one for traveling 500mt and also be able to take some cool pictures…

    So, don’t you think someone in NASA or in the USA government would be at least a little nervous about this?, the answer is NOT AT ALL, absolute the opposite, this year NASA put a couple of guys (all NASA guys) to work WITH US to actually MAKE POSSIBLE TO LAN AS NEAR AS POSSIBLE OF ONE OF THE APOLLO LANDING SITE, we are meeting with this guys every 6 months or so and of course they are worry about not crash over the landing site or that our robot don’t go over the Neil footprint, but they are VERY supporting to actually go and take as many info as we can from landing sites. They are very interesting into see stuff like how materials act after decades on moon and how corrosive act on components of Apollo vehicles, etc..that’s very important to design long term space components and so on…

    Well some stupid joker could say that we at the GLXP contest are actually part of the hoax and our robots are going to actually put evidence now on the moon surface, perhaps the MoonExpress robot is going to deploy a flag and the Astrobotics robot is going to assemble a Apollo landing vehicle…May be our Dandelion robot from Team Angelicvm is going to fake the Armstrong footprint…that would be cool :-) …or may be NASA forget the hoax today and send us a couple of guys that don’t know the truth…or even better, those guys are slowly poisoning us to kill every guy in every team on every country that is going to try to go to one of the Apollo landing site :-)

    but come on, just use common sense…

    Best regards,

  • youloosers

    You moon landing deniers are STUPID AS FUCK. Get a fucking LIFE you dumb as shit hicks. The only thing you’re denying is the EVIDENCE. You just want to get attention, little fucking kids go play with your dicks and keep your bullshit to yourselves.

  • AL_Nemesis

    China, India and Japan are all planning missions to the moon. Conspiracy theories will probably not be put to rest should any of these nations put people there – they’ll all just deny it ever happened. Funny thing is how these theories ignore that we can take photos of objects we left on the moon from earth orbit (and have).

  • gtrip

    The claim is that we landed on the moon 6 times during the Apollo program. Are you trying to convince me that all 6 were staged? Also, we left a bunch of garbage on the surface, do you think we just sent a rocket propelled dumpster? personally I more so believe where there are humans there is garbage, and there is garbage on the moon.

  • ICE

    Explain…..why would NASA, The US Space progarm..The Soviet Space Program and indeed all those in the world who aspire to travel into space and too the moon and other relatively close planets…create and spend trillions and trillions of dollars to put a space station into orbit in an unfixed floating environment unable to study virtually anything at all of their surroundings…instead of spending that same money for sending more missions to the Moon and building The International Space Station directly on the surface of the Moon?? They could have a massive complex in place by now…along with a launch system to return shuttles and missions from the Moon to earth and they would be set up right there IN THAT envornment in an absoulte and virtual scienctific treasurehunt of new studies at their doorstep and financing from the entire world of interested space travellers already donating generous massive amounts of financing to the ISS already?? It makes absolutely ZERO sense to not have followed this course SINCE the Moon Landings if in FACT they actually occured?? Its very funny how NOBODY has EVER addressed this issue which is so obviously flawed rather than the actual qeustion of the landing!!! Explain??

  • vejer

    to all those that think the moon landings were a hoax?man go clean your underwear,,or eat whats in them,,utter non-sense,,of course we did,,and,,one day,,we will again

  • peanutaxis

    Think about this: Even a back-of -the-garage program like Mythbusters absolutely DESTROYS nonsense such as this ‘Apollo Zero’.

  • Durandal

    The internet seems to be a growing echo chamber of stupidity as these conspiracy idiots shout their insanity and it reverberates, growing, combating scholasticism, skepticism and other benefits of education.

  • KhanSing

    What a load of rubbish. Get another hobby, please. You are wasting everyone’s air otherwise.

  • Vivotchka

    Wow. Terrible. Provoking those old men. Shame on this film maker. This is slanderous.

  • http://www.facebook.com/colin.macdonald.35977 Colin Macdonald

    No truly valid points here True or False, this doc is pretty poor.

  • http://profiles.google.com/lsiden Larry Siden

    Publishing and featuring drivel like this conspiracy documentary and others like it cannot possibly help the credibility of this otherwise fascinating website which otherwise contains much good content.

    Sure I endorse freedom of speech and ideas. People who believe in this exploitative nonsense are free to create their own site to promote their “ideas”. If the Flat Earth Society published a “serious” documentary promoting their point of view, would this site’s editors feel obligated to display it?

  • Bill O’Reilly

    This ‘documentary’ is hilarious. It’s also quite scary how many of you people will believe anything said in a youtube clip. Do you people understand what critical thinking entails at all?

  • thatguy

    i like bananas

  • http://twitter.com/seqretsquirrel secret squirrel!

    There are robots on Mars. How far away is that?

  • chubby chaser

    first off has anyone touched the center of the earth to prove it’s what you say it is?
    make a theory out of that…
    second the moon isn’t that cool, so why would you make it up?

  • What a joke

    Yikes,

    I’m surprised people still believe this stuff. I would have thought that in a supposedly educated nation, people would see that there was indeed was a moon landing. After watching this so called “documentary”, I see that there is no real evidence of a fake moon landing, just some really stupid people yelling the word conspiracy.

  • jerome

    I like a good conspiracy theory but this aint it. His logic is bizarre. He says that because no human has gone above 400 miles since the moon landing that the moon landing couldn’t have happened. Really??? Then he says the space shuttle has one third less power than the Saturn 5 moon rocket and “EVEN IT ” hasn’t gone past the 400 mile barrier. So what, something with less power should go where something with more power can’t go???? This is the case he builds?? I don’t know what this guy has accomplished except throughly annoy some rather good tempered astronauts and throughly annoy some others whose patience has run out.

    • Zzz

      his logic is sound, the 400 miles arguemnt is meant to tell you, that if your biggest achievement in the 2000s is to launch a machine of size X 200miles into space( sattelite), then its logically impossible for you to have been able to launche a machine the size of 100X 40 years earlier, and 100times further into space AND bring it back AND have humans in it AND survive he radiation for the val allen belt AND survive sun radiation AND AND AND…

      • duff

        You are replying to a post from 2 years ago.

        VA belts are no serious danger. You don’t understand radiation do you…
        you don’t understand that high speed cameras do not explain the movements on the moon, it would require an immense vacuum chamber. You can see the shit left behind on the moon. The topography in the images taken on the moon decades ago matches the topography of the mapping of the moon we have now. Would have been impossible to create then as we didn’t have any topographical mapping back then. The russians could have easily exposed a fake moon landing. The thousands of people involved with the landing could have exposed a fake moon landing. The google X moon landers will be on the moon soon. Some of the teams are aiming to land near apollo sites to beam back footage of them.

        At least try and understand the official account instead of just posting long debunked rubbish.

  • jerome

    Bye the way, even though this documentary is completely unconvincing, I do believe that the moon landing was faked but not for the reasons he mentions. The astronauts actually went to the moon and afterwards photographs and other documents were faked by NASA. It is this obvious fakery that started the whole conspiracy in the first place. This documentary is way off base. The real question is why would NASA actually send men to the moon and then still fake the moon landing afterwards??

  • Larry

    People’s credulity and susceptibility to misinformation should have long ago stopped surprising me. According to a Gallup poll, 20% of Americans think that the Sun revolves around the Earth (http://goo.gl/tbsT). I’m only surprised that so few people are still claiming that the earth is flat.

    With that in mind, mindless debates, like over what language the Texas School Board will require textbooks to frame the Theory of Evolution (“controversial”, “needs to be examined”, “just a theory”) should hardly seem to matter. Few of the kids who attend school in Texas or anywhere else in the US will remember anything by the time they graduate. They enter as blank slates and will leave as blank slates. Our new masters will speak Chinese and Hindi.

  • tim

    this guy is fucking crazy

  • tim

    • Sam Haslam

      Is this supposed refute the gargantuan argument against the official versions of the Apollo missions?? You’ll have to do better than presenting some desaturated and retouched Photoshop files. I’m a graphic designer by trade and have used Photoshop for well over 15 years. Ask me what you want to see in a photograph and I’ll be able to recreate whatever fantastical scene you’ve come up with. Many thousands/millions of well-versed PS users could do just the same as well. Poor argument.

  • Little Jonny

    God told me humans haven’t been to the moon.

  • http://handydanblog Dan Dwyer

    Once in space the hard work is done whether it’s 200 miles or 240,000 miles the only difference is the amount of fuel. The only reason humans have not gone back to the moon is the cost of building and maintaining the infrastructure. If the freemasons would forget about their 1,000 year old war with the Catholics and Muslims the $Trillion a year the US spends on its war machine would be more than enough to have a permanent settlement on the Moon, including specialized manufacturing and fuel production to travel throughout the solar system. We could also harvest mineral, water etc. from meteors. Instead of a total loss fighting wars on earth those resources could be making money and prosperity for everyone

  • Emmet.

    You can hear this ‘filmaker’ get nervous when interviewing Alan Bean. At 10:22 his voice wobbles. Why? Because he knows he is duping and disrespecting a hero!! A brave,brave man.
    “I worked in news!”
    Sorry kid,the school newsletter doesn’t count!! How dare you? What have you ever done?
    Shame on you.

  • Jeff Michalak

    The Technology of the day allowed for travel to the moon. The Tech of the day did NOT allow for video/film to be faked. Watch this video from film/video expert.

    http://gizmodo.com/5977205/why-the-moon-landings-could-have-never-ever-been-faked-the-definitive-proof

    • ZZ

      you’re dumb as fuck, you believe highspeed cameras didnt exist in the
      60s but you believe cameras existed that can whistand 3 days of direct
      sun radiation ? lmfao

  • Guest23

    Uh, this isn’t a documentary. It’s bullshit.

  • jaredinsc

    It would have been easier to just land on the damn moon than fake it.. The film tech just wasn’t there to be able to fake it. This is just some high school science kid spouting out bullshit.

    • Zzz

      how dumb do you have to be to believe that 1960s didnt have enough technology to a make a black and white film yet had enough techonology to FLY A 600,000kg machine into space, flew passed a radiation belt so strong that even to this day, no machine on earth can handle such level of radiation without melting, landing the entire thing on the moon, and then launched again from the moon?? lmfao use your fucking brain for fucks sake, think of the rockets we launch for satellites nowadays, ALL THE FUCKING blast, and heat and explosions, how was that produced on the moon? from where? it takes years for a satteltite to be prepared to launch from earth, and they did it in 3 days?? in the 60s??

      next time, use your own fucking head other than repeating dumb propaganda facts you saw on a youtube video from a retarded camera nerd.

      • duff

        “next time, use your own fucking head other than repeating dumb propaganda facts you saw on a youtube”

        I agree, though this applies to you perfectly. How about you learn what the VA belts are before you spout such nonsense. Just about everything you said there was incorrect.

  • Russell Hopwood

    Wow, seriously dude, I know you think you know your stuff but I have personally bounced a laser off the mirrors placed on the moon, and seen the equipment they used to do the initial trip. Benn lucky enough to examine the moon rocks from the Apologies trips, and understand the maths. It’s a little bit of a challenge to land on the moon, but not that hard. The reason more people don’t go there is that there is very little point given the cost and lack of anything of value.