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Apollo Zero

Think about this: to date, only three countries have been able to put a man merely in Earth orbit – the United States, Russia, and China. That speaks to how difficult it is just to get into orbit. Next, consider how far away the moon is from the Earth: 240,000 miles. Since the alleged moon landings, no country even claims to have gone more than 400 miles from Earth and that was in the Space Shuttle. The International Space Station orbits at 200 miles above Earth. There is a big difference between 240,000 miles and 400 miles. Why can’t anyone make it more than 400 miles from Earth today if we could make a 480,000 mile round trip in 1969?

NASA further asserts that three men were loaded into a rocket, flew 240,000 miles to the moon and then achieved lunar orbit. They say the spacecraft separated and two astronauts flew 60 miles to the surface of the moon, in a vacuum and 1/6 Earth gravity. They then hung out on the moon for up to three days in 250 degree heat, hit golf balls, rode a moon buggy — but what powered their life support and equipment? They say BATTERIES.

They then supposedly blasted off the surface of the moon, docked with the third man going around the moon at over 4000 miles per hour, and made it 240,000 miles back to Earth. They re-entered Earth’s atmosphere going 25,000 mph, but parachutes assured a safe landing in the ocean.

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  1. MOOOON NEVER HAPPENED !!
    Cold War propaganda.. finally exposed…
    Even now US can not set for landing on the Moon.
    Your fathers has been set up.. played like idiots.. you2
    Loosers

  2. MOOOON NEVER HAPPENED !!
    Cold War propaganda.. finally exposed…
    Even now US can not set for landing on the Moon.
    Your fathers has been set up.. played like idiots.. you2
    Loosers

  3. If you have any intelligence whatsoever then you can do some research and discover we went to the moon. This is all retarded and taken out of context when it is suited to try and win favor for this fucked up type of thought process. Moon hoax believers are a example of accepted ignorance and nothing more. Go and do some research and you will discover quite quickly that we landed on the moon.

    • 10.000 + people like it on Facebook. All of them like it, since US never landed on the Moon. Apollo 13 hand guided back to Earth.. you are joking. CIA scam # 1

      • lol..  i haven’t even watched this movie but you said it all mate,  10,000+  like it on facebook.. lol.. which would equal less than 1% of the worlds fuckwits such as yourself mate..  lmao..

        the damn world is just full of numbnuts like yourself that are fortunate that breathing in and out is a natural response…  do the world a favour after buying what ever the latest nick nak is that you have to have cause the other sheep has one,  and attend the next natural disaster eh,..

        much appreciate you not pissin’ in the gene pool..

      • lol..  i haven’t even watched this movie but you said it all mate,  10,000+  like it on facebook.. lol.. which would equal less than 1% of the worlds fuckwits such as yourself mate..  lmao..

        the damn world is just full of numbnuts like yourself that are fortunate that breathing in and out is a natural response…  do the world a favour after buying what ever the latest nick nak is that you have to have cause the other sheep has one,  and attend the next natural disaster eh,..

        much appreciate you not pissin’ in the gene pool..

      • lol..  i haven’t even watched this movie but you said it all mate,  10,000+  like it on facebook.. lol.. which would equal less than 1% of the worlds fuckwits such as yourself mate..  lmao..

        the damn world is just full of numbnuts like yourself that are fortunate that breathing in and out is a natural response…  do the world a favour after buying what ever the latest nick nak is that you have to have cause the other sheep has one,  and attend the next natural disaster eh,..

        much appreciate you not pissin’ in the gene pool..

      • Assume “TerryF” is an abbreviation for Terry Fuckwit

      • Assume “TerryF” is an abbreviation for Terry Fuckwit

    • Exactly, Don’t these people think just for one second that if they were faked surely the Russians (whose scientist were just as good as america’s) would say so and prove so. In the height of the cold war nothing would be more satisfiying for them. But they don’t but these people with google and you tube no better lol.

    • Exactly, Don’t these people think just for one second that if they were faked surely the Russians (whose scientist were just as good as america’s) would say so and prove so. In the height of the cold war nothing would be more satisfiying for them. But they don’t but these people with google and you tube no better lol.

      • you say the russians scientists were just as good, why didn’t they follow up with a moon landing?  

        • Russian scientists didn’t have the capital backing to undertake such a venture.  There are brilliant scientists in countries all over the world…they aren’t all funded by rich governments.

          • Agreed. No one cares who comes second. The Russians would have had to do something bigger and better. Like what?

  4. Well, they left a mirror on the moon that I have personally zapped with a laser for my astronomy studies at university. Soooo… explain that one, douchbags.

    • look guys,,i really don’t give a rats ass if you think we went to the moon or not,,we did,,it is what it is,,,the only problem with going again is not technological…it is a matter of will,,,do we have the will to return there,,and possibly go farther?i doubt it,,although i really hope so. so many advances by such an endeavour could benefit mankind in ways we really cannot know.you can’t say what advances we may acheive,,nor can i,,so,therefore,,i say…let’s go,,,all the way,,complete dedication to the space program,,and what we might be able to achieve..

    • Says Lex Luthor himself….talk about douchebags…haaa!! If ya wanna try sounding like a scientist…stick to biology okay snuffleupmyassaguss?? 

      Like say how shit is created? Then perhaps you will understand the  “Moon Landing” in a Rubiks cube with locomiton technology massive enough to return them safely to earth after some perfectly imagined MOON Launch. LOL. How fukn naive does one have to be?? 

      The chances of aliens building the great pyramids are tenfold what are those of that moon debacle being legitimate. However…I personally didn’t need this dopey film makers version of events to know that.

    • The russians did it as well, without landing someone on the moon.

    • right on brutha 

    • There are landers on Mars and we’ve never been there… douchbag! Why don’t you go shoot some lasers at that!

    • There could be an argument that it was dropped by an unmanned module and not be people who went there.

    • i like this comment because I almost fell for the entire film

  5. Comments has been affected by Agents of the Darkness.. This people are paid to cause the confusion. Lots of arguments for nothing. Just to influence the crowd. Avoid all negativity and use your own senses. MOON Landing never happened. Kind regards.

    • just when i thought people couldnt live without a brain and still breathe, you managed to type a complete paragraph of stupidity. i guess evolution created another group of retards! we made it to the moon, its not very hard to believe that.

    • what a cock! agents of darkness??? lol u play to much dungeons and dragons pal. 

    • what a cock! agents of darkness??? lol u play to much dungeons and dragons pal. 

    • Idiot

      • Wow, you registered a name just to say one word?

      • Wow, you registered a name just to say one word?

        • Wow, you registered a name to say ten words. Clearly you are tem times better than Jack’sNotCool.

          •  My name has been registered in Disqus before this website even had the option…

          • Well done idiot …The comment to which I replied was from ‘from212’ using an avatar whilst you are ‘From212’ without an avatar.

            If you’re going to impersonate somebody then at least get the details correct.

        • See, lizards hate to be exposed. So they poison the topic with all this swearing and negativity. They will be punished at the end. Moon, well, still a Virgin, unspoilt by Corporate Darkness.. All the best everyone 🙂

          • I’ll translate my interpretations of JackCool vs Jack’sNotCool
            JackCool believes there are reptillian extra-terrestrials that are also capable of channeling, being extra-dimensional. A speculated species named after the reptillian gland that looks identical to a crocodile’s brain section in humans. Clifford Stone Bob Schnieder disclosure project etc..

            Jack’sNotCool is a normal contemporary physicalist that doesn’t believe in conspiracy, E.T.s, or the great beyond. He has a bad taste about superstitious airy people which strikes him as obnoxiously weak minded. high 5

            The fact of the matter is both of these individuals opinions are insignificant in the long run because Jack’sNotCool is NOT a reptillain et and not being possesed by one , JacksCool is right that there is a greater reality that 60-70% of the mainstream consensus hasn’t fully researched yet, but wrong in potentially the majority of his assumptions and 99% of people reading this message have no information base to compare with mine and vice versa because we have different eyes and experiences and either way if it’s not on your belief systems foot ball team then insults rather than dialogue is exchanged. case closed can’t wait till we all die,

            and nobody is going to get divine retribution or punished
            how do you feel stealing life from living objects because unless you eat only fruit and nuts your just as ego centric as anythign else you slander

          • I’ll translate my interpretations of JackCool vs Jack’sNotCool
            JackCool believes there are reptillian extra-terrestrials that are also capable of channeling, being extra-dimensional. A speculated species named after the reptillian gland that looks identical to a crocodile’s brain section in humans. Clifford Stone Bob Schnieder disclosure project etc..

            Jack’sNotCool is a normal contemporary physicalist that doesn’t believe in conspiracy, E.T.s, or the great beyond. He has a bad taste about superstitious airy people which strikes him as obnoxiously weak minded. high 5

            The fact of the matter is both of these individuals opinions are insignificant in the long run because Jack’sNotCool is NOT a reptillain et and not being possesed by one , JacksCool is right that there is a greater reality that 60-70% of the mainstream consensus hasn’t fully researched yet, but wrong in potentially the majority of his assumptions and 99% of people reading this message have no information base to compare with mine and vice versa because we have different eyes and experiences and either way if it’s not on your belief systems foot ball team then insults rather than dialogue is exchanged. case closed can’t wait till we all die,

            and nobody is going to get divine retribution or punished
            how do you feel stealing life from living objects because unless you eat only fruit and nuts your just as ego centric as anythign else you slander

          • LOL..  dude,  your my new Hero =)

          • LOL..  dude,  your my new Hero =)

          • LOL..  dude,  your my new Hero =)

          • dude….overkill.  I fell asleep just scrolling to the bottom of your tirade. 

        • No, because I didn’t register .. this is not needed for Documentary Heaven. Look’s as if JackCool as company as being an idiot on this page.

  6. Oh my, the starting argument ruined it for me, willfully reading something out of context does not make a credible basis for any conspiracy theory, LAME!

  7. Oh my, the starting argument ruined it for me, willfully reading something out of context does not make a credible basis for any conspiracy theory, LAME!

  8. Oh my, the starting argument ruined it for me, willfully reading something out of context does not make a credible basis for any conspiracy theory, LAME!

  9. Sorry everyone .i just had to bite.Back to moon landings….

  10. also in 4 years you met 99.9% of the population of america,you must be quite a socialite.

  11. Firstly:
    “Lack of evidence is not evidence of lack”
    Second:
    Fuckgreece ,You are an Internationatwat , a troll,and definitely secretly gay.
    Creationists could use YOU as the best proof that evolution never happened.

    Screw intelligent discussion , lets get some schoolyard insults going, after all ,what really matters isn’t what we might learn collectively but the feeling of being RIGHT.

    Your ignorance borders on genius , i find it more believable that jellyfish went to the moon than that you could actually come up with a good argument for or against anything.

    Bring on the insults,they’re all you’ve got….

    • qwerty….tell me whats bothering you, OK?  I don’t mean the fact that you can’t spell, write or even think clearly….I mean deep down ….what’s wrong?  Did someone threaten you on the playground today?  Come on you can tell me…..let it out…..it’s OK to cry, little boy…… 

  12. Looks like you were right Johnny. Another straw on the camels back of disappointment in humanity, alias troll.

  13. to the Johny motherfucker! WTF are talking about. Your world play shows how full of shit you really are. Who the fuck cares what the US didnt know about the russians. The fact remains. Russians were first to put satellite in space russians were first to put man in space and the Russians were 20 years ahead!

    It doesnt take great technology to get into space! Are you stupid or just plain fucking retarded. If it was so easy how come everyone isnt going into space. A Digital Hand watch send man to the Moon.

    “And there are high-res images of the Moon’s surface available online which although it’s not able to see the evidence itself” BINGO I wonder why they dont show the “EVIDENCE”. WTF are talking about the Hubble Telescope is the most powerful Telescope ever build or “Was” by man kind. It can take Pictures of galaxies hundreds of light years away. How come it itsnt collecting photons that bounce from the moon?

    You said that you were a “holocaust revisionist” so I asked you did you know that 60,000,000 people died during WWII and how come when you hear of WWII all you hear is about the holocaust?

    You type a shit load of stuff but you dont explain dick you just keep dancing around. Dangers in space bullshit images that dont show the evidence, crater that was left on the surface of the moon by the lander. Fucking Moon surface is filled with fucking craters

    and please do keep the conversation going and write some facts instead of dancing around the subject matter.

    • One last post just because I’m bored and your extremely angry and absurd replies are quite amusing.

      “It doesnt take great technology to get into space! Are you stupid or just plain fucking retarded. If it was so easy how come everyone isnt going into space. A Digital Hand watch send man to the Moon.”

      Apparently my “world play”(-l?) is too difficult for you to understand so I need to elaborate.

      You stated at first that NASA’s technology was no more advanced than a wristwatch, and you are correct in that a digital watch contains tiny highly efficient computer microchips and such that didn’t exist back then as computer technology wasn’t very advanced so that’s a given, it’s a completely fallacious comparison.

      That is a total strawman argument since they didn’t need that highly-advanced tiny high-efficient computer systems when larger and less efficient systems did exist that could still get the job done.

      Just because the computer chip in your watch is more advanced by way of being smaller and more efficient doesn’t mean it’s more powerful than the systems used at that time.

      Rocket science(chemistry mainly) and technology on the other hand is quite difficult to develop to a level of power and control necessary for space flight, hence why so few have achieved it.

      Lucky for the U.S and Russia the Nazi’s provided hundreds of working V2 Rockets to be plundered and studied and redeveloped after WWII that gave them a big head-start over the rest of the world in the ‘Space Age’.

      While the Russians focused mainly on using them to get to space at first the U.S concentrated on developing them for delivering explosives as the Nazi’s had as well, until they realized how far ahead the Russians were and how big of an advantage space domination would afford them.

      Ironically though one of the first things the Americans did was put a camera on one of the V2 rockets and take the first pictures in space and so they got off to a good start.

      Hard to understand still?

      “BINGO I wonder why they dont show the “EVIDENCE”

      Because it isn’t magnified(zoomed in) far enough due to limitations on the website hosting the image and magnification ability for the telescope used, the only pictures showing close-ups are the ones from the Apollo missions which you dismiss as fakes which are far from high-res. You can see them at Google Moon.

      “WTF are talking about the Hubble Telescope is the most powerful Telescope ever build or “Was” by man kind. It can take Pictures of galaxies hundreds of light years away. How come it itsnt collecting photons that bounce from the moon?”

      It seems I was as mistaken on this as you are as Hubble has taken images of the Moon’s surface as far back as 1999, some of which are publicly and freely available on the Hubble website and it’s possible you could contact someone there to provide you with some high-mag snapshots of the landing areas to look for your ‘evidence’.

      You’d be amazed how forthcoming they can be if you ask nicely, though I’d recommend using a real name and not calling them ‘retards’ or ‘Americunts’ or anything like that.

      “You said that you were a “holocaust revisionist” so I asked you did you know that 60,000,000 people died during WWII and how come when you hear of WWII all you hear is about the holocaust?”

      Holocaust revisionism was specifically created because people were pissed off with all the focus on the Jewish Holocaust mass exterminations of which there is very little evidence to support while ignoring the greater mass murders of 10’s of millions of ‘less worthy’ victims that is very clearly documented/evidenced.

      As long as people keep buying the Holocaust mythology they will be distracted by it because it is built on emotions rather than intelligence, Holocaust revisionism is about focusing people on the truth of the Holocaust so that they can look past it and recognize the greater crimes committed by both sides and the real reasons behind it all.

      Believe me if we could just ignore the Holocaust mythology and the half century + of warfare and political bullshit that has spawned from it and it would all just go away all Holocaust revisionists would gladly ignore it.

      Sadly in the real world where literally billions of dollars is invested in the “Holocaust Industry” that just isn’t going to happen, ignoring it won’t make it go away.

      “You type a shit load of stuff but you dont explain dick you just keep dancing around. Dangers in space bullshit images that dont show the evidence, crater that was left on the surface of the moon by the lander. Fucking Moon surface is filled with fucking craters”

      1. I said you could see craters and boulders in PHOTOS taken during the Apollo missions which can also be seen in the High-res surface images I mentioned, but you can’t ‘zoom in’ any further to see the details of the landing site itself or even to know with complete certainty they are the same boulders and craters. I did not say anyone could see a crater left by the lander.

      The positions of those boulders and craters does support the original Apollo images but again nothing certain can be determined at that magnification.

      2. I type a shitload because I like to make my points as clear as possible, sometimes to the point of making them more confusing I admit, but there was nothing I see that was confusing from my prior postings here.

      The only one dancing around is you with your constant ad-hominem attacks and other childish tactics.

      3. And now you are completely dismissing the dangers of space travel, but I’m the one talking shit?

      “and please do keep the conversation going and write some facts instead of dancing around the subject matter.”

      GTFO, seriously? I haven’t seen or heard one fact from you, just pure conjecture about technology levels and how if the Russians couldn’t do it NASA couldn’t either so it must be all bullshit, and how the pictures and video that show proof are fake and since you can’t get free access to the images that could show proof over the internet(I’m guessing with very little effort involved) the evidence itself doesn’t exist.

      I’m assuming from multiple postings around here that you are just a lousy, miserable troll hence why I said I was going to just ignore you, but if you are just an idiot who can’t read properly or understand big words or use any critical thinking I don’t mind playing around with you for a while longer.

      And again I know full well that you likely won’t do anything to look for the images or anything I mention because I can’t link them directly without my post being held back for moderation which often means it never gets posted at all.

      But I’m sure also that if I did link them directly you’d probably use some of the sources I use (NASA, ESA, Roscosmos, etc.) to simply dismiss them entirely without consideration anyways since they are part of the conspiracy…

      I find you extremely amusing, while everyone else is focused on understanding how much more advanced the technology that the powers that be have is compared to what is officially acknowledged you are downright religious in your belief of the opposite.

      But of course your evidence is that the official evidence is fake and part of a huge conspiracy and you haven’t seen any other evidence yourself therefore the evidence doesn’t exist at all because you believe it to be so.

      PS – You dance like a fairy, no sense of reality whatsoever. 😉

      PPS – Let me know if you have any troubles with the length of this post or any big wor(l)ds I may have used so I can try to clarify if needed.

      • a beer…..a computer….and no life= this long winded ranting bullshit.  Goodbye dickheads….I am bored with you 

      • a beer…..a computer….and no life= this long winded ranting bullshit.  Goodbye dickheads….I am bored with you 

      • a beer…..a computer….and no life= this long winded ranting bullshit.  Goodbye dickheads….I am bored with you 

      • yeah fuck that Im not reading your fucking retarded essays still I cant make any sense of it. You just keep on rambling on about irrelevant shit in hopes to mislead from the real issue. And I said the computer on the space shuttles had the same CAPABILITIES as that of a digital hand watch today. WTF does that have to do with microchips and the size of the circuit boards. “Pictures of the Moon that dont show the evidence” you know how fucking retarded that sounds. What kind of proof is that?

        Man you must be fucking retarded or something. Do you know how much calculations and ADVANCED technology is required to send a craft to maintain orbit. You mentioned the SLINGSHOT effect that the Americans “supposedly used” in the apollo missions. Do you know that the slightest miscalculation or shift in angle can send the space craft to drift in space with no hope of coming back, After that they had to worry about landing on the moon and achieving lunar orbit. And they did all this with 1960s technology. Shit one fucking 6gb hard drive was the size of a room.

        Not too long ago they sent the two rovers to mars. They did some nice miscalculations and one of them ended ass up.

        I go a story for you and the Americunts this is a true fact you can look it up. During the Space Race people at Nasa were having trouble coming up with something that could write in 0 gravity. A pen would work no gravity. So they spent 3 years and millions of dollars developing this pen that could write in space, under water, in cold or hot weather.

        The Russians were face with the same problem but they just used a pencil! Thats to show you NASAS ingenuity.

        Dont write fucking Novels because im not reading your dumb ass irrelevant arguments.

        • F***greece, I have a question for you and I dont mean this to be sarcastic, I really am curious….why have you chosen the name ‘F***greece’? I would probably assume you are upset or disappointed with Greece, but I am truly curious, so I dont want to just assume. If you are upset with Greece, why?

          And why do you refer to Americans as Americ**ts? You must realize that not ALL Americans are nasty, greedy, wasteful, power-hungry war mongers. There truly are many decent Americans.

          If you take offense to these questions, I apologize. I have a curious nature, especially with personalities and why people respond/react in the way they do.

          Ellie.

          • Hey Ellie. To answer your first question I dont like homo greeks they are a race of faggots. For more on the gay greeks you check out my youtube channel http://www.youtube.com/user/ProducioniFuckGreece

            To answer your second question. I went to college in America and lived among the AmeriCUNTS for 4 years 99.9% of them truly are shitty human beings. Good God I never have see so many asswholes one place. I didnt know people could be so ignorant. And there were very very very few decent human beings 99.9% were asswholes. cheers!

        • “yeah fuck that Im not reading your fucking retarded essays still I cant make any sense of it.”

          I believe this comment should be in the dictionary under the definition of “internet troll”, so the question of purposeful trolling vs simple ignorance is answered.

          I have been reading your posts and responding to them directly, breaking them down section by section and addressing the core issues, and this is ‘retarded’ to you?

          If you aren’t reading my ‘fucking retarded essays’ then why do you respond to them as such, and how do you know you are actually responding to what I have stated if you “can’t make any sense of it” or just aren’t reading it?

          Obviously you truly don’t have a clue what I am saying because you’ve proven me correct a few times now.

          And what does your distraction about a ‘space pen’ have to do with anything? NASA had nothing to do with that development, the ‘space pen’ was developed privately and sold by Fisher Space Pen Company which has ZERO connection to NASA.

          Well they did sell some pens to NASA, and also Roscosmos(the Russian Space Agency) who studied them for a while but the development of the pens had nothing to do with either of them.

          But at least you had the sense to say millions, I’ve heard people say they spent 12 Billion on the pen even though that would have eaten up all of NASA’s budget for like 10 years, lol.

          For someone who keeps calling me retarded you can’t make a single intelligent point, and now you’re tossing in long ago falsified urban legends to make a point of me being retarded?

          You are joking, right?

          But whatever, now that it is clear you are just a troll I will be ignoring you from now on.

          • ThanK god no fucking Essay this time. Its pointless to argue with someone who is ignorant. No matter what I say or evidence I provide still in the end you still refuse to accept the truth and go rambling on about irrelevant shit that has no connection whatsoever to do with anything. NASA has two ways to prove it once and far all and its very easy. One show pictures of the actual evidence on the moon or two go back to the moon. And they can very easily do the first one and yet they dont why because they never went to the moon. funny you call me a troll and your the one writing fucking Novels. cheers and go fuck yourself!

          • I have never seen such a failed trolling. The embarrassment you are feeling is normal… side effect of being full of shit.

      • Hi Johnny,

        Can I join in here?…I get a chuckle from both you and f***greece….you seem to know how to light his fire!

        Anyway, I am interested in what you have to say about the holocaust revisionism. This is really the first I have heard of this…you mention above the greater mass murders 10’s of millions of ‘less worthy’ victims…what do you mean by this?

        And what is the truth of the Holocaust and the greater crimes committed by both sides and the real reasons behind it all that you mention?

        Ellie.

        • “Can I join in here?…I get a chuckle from both you and f***greece….you seem to know how to light his fire!”

          Certainly you can, and it’s not that hard really to light his fire as his name indicates he is a troll and trolls hate anything that requires more than 5 seconds of thinking. The longer and more punctual/grammatical the posting the swifter and more vicious the response, though most are not really angry but simply have a perverted need for any attention they can get even if it is negative and online. Mr FG here seems to really get angry, and that is quite amusing to me I will admit as I honestly don’t understand it.

          Getting annoyed with someone’s online antics is one thing but getting angry is pointless, if it gets to the point you are getting angry you should shut down your computer and go relax a bit.

          “Anyway, I am interested in what you have to say about the holocaust revisionism. This is really the first I have heard of this…you mention above the greater mass murders 10′s of millions of ‘less worthy’ victims…what do you mean by this?

          And what is the truth of the Holocaust and the greater crimes committed by both sides and the real reasons behind it all that you mention?”

          Well now I honestly don’t think DocHeaven is too friendly to Holocaust Revisionism and as such I should limit my discussion on it here especially since it’s off-topic, but there is a group(and ‘.com’ website) called CODOH which is the ‘Committee for Open Debate On the Holocaust’ which outlines most of the revisionist material.

          Bearing in mind as always that some of the evidence presented there against the Holocaust is just as questionable as the evidence of the Holocaust itself so one needs to differentiate between the evidence itself and the assumptions of the commentators that are sometimes drawn from that evidence.

          But the worthy victims of WWII were the Jews allegedly mass-murdered by the Nazi’s, the military personnel that died at Pearl Harbor, the British people cowering in the tunnels of London during ‘The Blitz’, and anything else that makes for good nationalistic propaganda or helps push a political agenda such as Zionism or Americanism.

          The ‘less worthy’ victims were those killed in the large-scale firebombings of numerous cities filled with civilians by both sides, but first started by the Allies and disguised behind the ‘public relations’ spin of a ‘strategic bombing campaign’.

          Sure the Allies killed just as many if not more civilians than the Nazi’s during the course of the war, but they only killed as many as they needed to kill to prevent mass murdering evil from conquering the world so it’s not mass murder but “strategic bombing” and is all good, right? [/sarcasm]

          As for the real reasons behind it all – ultimately it’s all about greed, the lust for money and power(really the same thing, no?).

          There is a pretty decent documentary around here somewhere which although it doesn’t get into the whole truth of it all it does discuss the role of hundreds of national/international banking cartels in laundering the loot the Nazi’s plundered during the war, it’s called ‘Banking with Hitler’ if I recall correctly. It’s a good way to wade into the issue one toe at a time I guess rather than jumping right in.

          I will say that based on my research if you find out who really funded the U.S war effort in WWII you will discover who also funded the Nazi and Imperial Japanese war machines.

          Also, a brief look into what are jokingly/sarcastically referred to as ‘tectonic snakes’ and their importance in geopolitics is also of value here in understanding the dynamics involved in the WWII situation as well.

          We live in a world built on ‘public relations’ where the truth is not the issue, all that matters is how you can ‘spin’ it to your advantage.

          WWII and the Holocaust are the biggest and most successful PR campaigns in history. WWI was filled with equally horrifying stories of atrocities committed by the Germans which were almost all proven false through thorough investigation after the war which ultimately led to the public in most Allied nations taking the view that the word propaganda was “dirty”(blatant lies) and the Edward Bernays coined term ‘Public Relations’ replaced it.

          90% of the WWII Nazi Holocaust horror stories have never been investigated thoroughly beyond accepting the Soviet’s “evidence” which included claims of around 200 million mass-murdered at Auschwitz by the Nazi’s, a claim laughed out of the Nuremberg Trials while the rest of the Soviet “evidence”(though mostly equally unbelievable) was accepted as fact.

          Or there are a few often contradictory “eye-witness testimonies” that are also contradicted by evidence such as aerial photo’s taken by the Allies on days when massive outdoor cremation fires were supposedly burning thousands of bodies according to “witnesses” and Nazi “confessions” and yet not a single trace of such events – not even a wisp of smoke or any large patch of disturbed soil/foliage where the mass-graves were supposed to be in the process of being dug up for cremation at that time – can be seen in the photo’s.

          Even suggesting actually doing forensic testing of the mass-grave sites to document the victims the same way all the other victims of the wars have been documented through the years is literally considered a crime in some countries claiming that it is ‘hate speech’ based on the racist desire to not allow the Jewish victims to ‘rest in peace’. Personally I don’t understand how they can be at peace if they are never identified and their families never receive true closure, but clearly that just means I am a racist…

          And as a note, ironically the most detailed forensic investigations into mass-graves at the time came from the Nazi’s investigations of Soviet massacres in Poland in which only a small percentage of the victims out of tens of thousands of recovered bodies were unable to be identified.

          Strange that the Nazi’s seemed to care more about forensically documenting mass murder crimes against other peoples than the Jewish Zionists of today care about documenting and bringing some closure to the crimes against their own peoples.

          Of course the ‘Holocaust Industry’ and a lot of political weight rests specifically on NOT bringing any closure to the issue, it’s all about emotions not facts and intelligence/critical thinking.

          Emotional shock propaganda has a long and very successful history, emotional reactions always overpower the ability to think critically. Our modern ‘public relations’ societies make use of the system frequently, the Holocaust, the Israeli-Palestine “conflict”(illegal occupation) and 9/11 are a few of the more blatant ones but in reality our entire ‘western’ society is based on emotions.

          Anyways, I’ve missed some big points but hopefully I’ve provided enough to at least allow you to give the revisionist material an objective review and judge it for yourself.

          I must also say that my first memory in life was watching a Soviet military parade through Red Square and that has stuck with me forever and led to me spending my entire life researching(reading, watching, reviewing anything I could find) the whole geopolitical landscape of the past 200 years or so, and thus I have a very goo understanding of how things really work and it is far easier for me to accept the reality that there are vast conspiracies out there.

          But I should add here that the Moon landings being a hoax isn’t one of those conspiracies based on the evidence I’ve seen and the fact most of the ‘hoaxer’ case is based on claiming the official evidence is fake or simply ‘unbelievable’ based on their personal views rather than providing actual evidence of their own to prove it was fake. Though certainly the missions were very largely propagandized for obvious reasons the claim of them being completely fake is unsupported by the evidence in my view.

          I’m rambling a bit now so I’ll end here and head to bed before I write a novel, lol.

          • Johnny – Are these long-winded rambles a form of therapy or do you really think anybody reads all of them?

          • This is so interesting. I truly question so many things I was “taught” in school and when I see that we have been lied to, by our governments, the controllers of wealth, I am just bewildered and do not understand, why certain humans desire such excessive power, control and wealth.

            A “big one” for me is the “story” of the Pilgrims coming to America. As a small child, grade 2, 3, 4…I loved that story!…the first Thanksgiving!!…and then to learn as an adult, the historical truth of the killing, raping, stealing of goods and lands, etc that was done to the Indian tribes, it makes me irate, and absolutely ashamed.

            I appreciate the info you presented, I will check out that documentary you mentioned, I do recall seeing it here on DH.

          • Dear Ellie, You seem to have a curious mind and want to be open to many ideas. There is so much good information available that is presented in a coherient way.I just don’t understand why you would try to learn from a ranting and disrespectful individual such as F#@##Greece… And please don’t be so hard on the Pilgrims. If you read accurate accounts of history you will find that in those particular times the killing was not entirely one sided. And yes,yes! terrible things happened to the American Indians. But civilizations do evolve morally. People learn from the mistakes of their ancestors and go on to be and do better. People would be arrested and jailed today for doing many things that were commonplace 80 years ago. Give your country a break. There is also much to be proud of

          • jmr…thank you for writing…yes, I am a “craver of information”, however…

            …I think that because of this new format of DH, my comments may line up to corresponding with f***greece (of which I have had correspondence that questions his vulgarity etc, but actually, any intelligent correspondence has been with johnny…(of whom has not participated here at DH for a week or so, and I had very much enjoyed his input, I hope he is ok)…

            anyway, it is very clear to me that f***greece has nothing of importance to say…

            …moving on…I question accounts of history…much of which are historically inaccurate and manipulated..and I do realize the killing of native Indians was not one sided…but I also see the inherent greed of our ancestors and their manipulation to cover up their greed with stories of patriotism and freedom…

            also, my opinion is that the military is run by a corrupt government that is run by wealthy, powerful corrupt men/corporations who continue to attack and kill innocent human beings in the name of patriotism and freedom, for their own benefit…

            ..the people (or country) that I am proud of, are people who are willing to open their eyes and minds (people who choose not continue to be fooled by manipulation/brainwashing of patriotic ideas, and at the same time, choose not to continue to be fooled by manipulation/brainwashing of main stream media and advertising that we should continue to consume/buy to attain happiness, which in itself is a “cover-up” intended to keep us occupied so that we dont pay attention to what the corrupt government/corporations are actually doing…and I am proud people who are willing to speak up to these corrupt agencies and to speak up for the innocent human beings who are suffering from the affects of poverty and war, again that are caused by corrupt governments and wealthy, powerful corporations…

            ..even though I may have “carried on” a bit here, I do appreciate your input and consider your views…I just somewhat disagree…

            Ellie.

          • jmr…thank you for writing…yes, I am a “craver of information”, however…

            …I think that because of this new format of DH, my comments may line up to corresponding with f***greece (of which I have had correspondence that questions his vulgarity etc, but actually, any intelligent correspondence has been with johnny…(of whom has not participated here at DH for a week or so, and I had very much enjoyed his input, I hope he is ok)…

            anyway, it is very clear to me that f***greece has nothing of importance to say…

            …moving on…I question accounts of history…much of which are historically inaccurate and manipulated..and I do realize the killing of native Indians was not one sided…but I also see the inherent greed of our ancestors and their manipulation to cover up their greed with stories of patriotism and freedom…

            also, my opinion is that the military is run by a corrupt government that is run by wealthy, powerful corrupt men/corporations who continue to attack and kill innocent human beings in the name of patriotism and freedom, for their own benefit…

            ..the people (or country) that I am proud of, are people who are willing to open their eyes and minds (people who choose not continue to be fooled by manipulation/brainwashing of patriotic ideas, and at the same time, choose not to continue to be fooled by manipulation/brainwashing of main stream media and advertising that we should continue to consume/buy to attain happiness, which in itself is a “cover-up” intended to keep us occupied so that we dont pay attention to what the corrupt government/corporations are actually doing…and I am proud people who are willing to speak up to these corrupt agencies and to speak up for the innocent human beings who are suffering from the affects of poverty and war, again that are caused by corrupt governments and wealthy, powerful corporations…

            ..even though I may have “carried on” a bit here, I do appreciate your input and consider your views…I just somewhat disagree…

            Ellie.

  14. to the Albo Motherfucker. Suck dick and die fucking faggot

  15. Actually they could quite easily get to the moon today, or any planet in the Solar System for that matter, the issue is safety. There are dozens of unmanned craft already scouring the Solar System, and I believe Voyageur One is actually outside of or right on the heliospheric boundary of the Solar System now.

    Getting there isn’t that difficult, relatively speaking. With the latest advances in plasma(ion) thruster systems and other advanced propulsion it will become even easier.

    Today the cosmic radiation is known to be too great a risk for manned spaceflight because a lot more concern is placed on the safety of the astronauts, whereas back in the early days of the Space Age little specifics were known of the dangers and being the first meant everyone knew of the high likelihood of harm coming to them and accepted the risks to be space pioneers, ‘to go where no man has gone before’.

    It was largely because of the Apollo missions that NASA learned of many of the dangers of manned spaceflight that made them decide that the risks were too great and the expensive development for systems to try to protect crew from those dangers was too high in comparison to the cheaper and easier unmanned spaceflight program alternative they quickly embarked on.

    Getting there is not the problem, it’s all the stuff a living person would have to go through to get there that is the problem.

    If you want to volunteer for manned spaceflight ‘fuckgreece’ I’m sure I could help find some ‘retard’ at NASA who would love to blast you far away from this planet(as much as I’m sure many people here do) to hook you up with a trip to the moon…

    I doubt they’d be willing to cover the cost of the return trip for someone like you though so you should pack heavy. :p

    • First of all, you dont know dick about me motherfucker you fucking Mcdonalds eating fat piece of shit brain washed Americunt! Second, Of course they could go, They could go to mars they could go beyond the solar system yet they dont! Why is that? Because they cant send a man to the moon and bring him back exactly my point. I guess “Bush” was bullshitting when he said “We are going back to the Moon” Whats it been 50+ years all the advancements in technology and all the new materials why havent they gone back? They could barely achieve low orbit in the 60s let alone go to the moon. I wonder why NASA announced about a year ago that they lost the original footage of the moon landing! Only thing you Americunts know is how to land on MCdonalds order a double whopper large fries and a large diet cola. Maybe next time they go to the moon they will build a McDonalds on the Moon so the astronauts can have a happy meal and a cola.

      • Your stupid name ‘FuckGreece’ and terms like ‘Americunt’, combined with your previous shot of calling people of far greater intellect than yourself ‘retards’ tells everything I need to know about the kind of person you are, I don’t need to know the details of your life for that(I really don’t want any).

        Oh, and actually I am a skinny Canadacunt who wouldn’t touch McDonalds food with a flamethrower, but I understand that the truth hurts and you are just lashing out as a natural defense mechanism and thus I won’t hold your childish reaction against you.

        “Because they cant send a man to the moon and bring him back exactly my point.”

        So they can bring back geological samples from distant planets using highly advanced unmanned equipment they can remote control from literally millions of miles away but they don’t have the technology to bring a man back from the Moon under direct human control? Laughable.

        If you think such feats are impossible you have a very poor understanding of the state of advanced technology development today, or even that of people like Nikola Tesla from the 1930’s and earlier.

        “Whats it been 50+ years all the advancements in technology and all the new materials why havent they gone back?”

        Did you not read my prior post at all? Do you think they knew everything about the dangers of space travel 50 years ago, seriously?

        We are still learning of new dangers and issues posed by ‘cosmic radiation’ and ‘space weather'(electricity) every day and we have technology to protect against only a few of those known dangers now, to consider sending people into space without adequate protection for the clear dangers we do know they will face would be insane.

        During the original Apollo missions they didn’t know the details of all the dangers they faced and they weren’t as concerned with astronaut safety anyways, they accepted the general risks that came with going into “the unknown” and made history.

        “They could barely achieve low orbit in the 60s let alone go to the moon.”

        That statement shows your inept understanding of space physics, achieving a low orbit of any kind involves counteracting the constant gravitational forces pulling on an object/craft and is more technically difficult than what the Apollo missions were doing.

        Simply blasting through the area of the highest gravitational forces in near-Earth space and be propelled constantly in one general direction is easier than operating within it where you need thrusters or other propulsion systems working intermittently to counteract the gravitational forces constantly pulling the craft downward toward the surface. The lower the orbit the more difficult it is to maintain.

        Anyways, the Apollo missions managed to take visible light and UV images of Earth from the surface of the Moon, leave behind reflectors that can still be seen with telescopes today, collected geological samples of material that could not have come from Earth or been otherwise faked and yet we are to believe it is all a hoax because someone like you doesn’t think those ‘retards’ can really do it?

        Oh and just an FYI – NASA is a civilian agency which occasionally works in conjunction with the military for certain development projects, the U.S Air Force has it’s own space development unit(U.S Air Force Space Command Space Innovation and Development Center[AFSPC SIDC]) separate from NASA which has ZERO access for the general public or any civilian agency or group within the governmental structure like NASA.

        I have no doubt the U.S.A.F has sent people into (deep)space since the time of the Apollo missions since technologies necessary for manned spaceflight are one of the focuses of their programs based on what I’ve read.

        Just because the government decided NASA shouldn’t focus on manned spaceflight doesn’t mean the U.S military isn’t focused on it, and since NASA only does what it is (politically) mandated to do they aren’t necessarily actively involved in any conspiracy or cover-up themselves.

        One needs to remember that we have a ying and a yang here, we have NASA as a public and politically controlled civilian agency which the public has fairly high access to, but then we have an ‘anti-NASA’ group within the military with zero real access from the public(aside from PR completely controlled by them).

        NASA’s mandate is to explore and understand but the military does not explore and understand, it’s mandate is always ‘command and control’ which almost always comes with the title of ‘classified’.

        ‘U.S Air Force Space Command’ doesn’t command space unless it controls it, so looking at NASA and trying to understand what’s going on is not going to get you far as NASA is not in control.

        The fact NASA is a civilian agency in a ‘National Security State’ where the military reigns supreme should tell people something right from the get go.

        But anyways this moon landing hoax crap is ridiculous, I mean I am a holocaust revisionist because there is significant evidence that contradicts a large portion of the holocaust ‘death camp’ stories(only natural since the wartime propaganda has to be included in the official history lest everyone know it was lies), but in this case all the real evidence I’ve seen says the moon landing did happen and this whole conspiracy is retarded and only serving to further confuse and bury the real truth.

        • So youre a Candiancunt cousins of the Americunts. Do you know that when the space race started the russians developed so rapidly that they were 20 years ahead of the US/NASA in space technology. Why was it that the russians were the first to launch the first satellite in orbit. Why was it that the russians were the first to send the first human in space? Yuri Gagarin. I bet nobody knows he’s name. Then all of a sudden we are to believe that overnight the US Just LEAPED 20 years and were able to land on the moon 6 fucking times and all 6 times bring the crew of 12 people back safely. Do you know that the computer on board of the space shuttles that went to the moon was no different than that of digital hand watch today. You telling me that was able to send people to the moon and bring them back.

          Oh Yeah your evidence. The Hubble telescope can see galaxies tens hundreds if not thousands of light years away. Why dont they just point it towards the moon and take pictures of the evidence they left behind. uh? 50 Years and why havent they been back. So 1960s 12 men supposedly walked on the moon went and came back 6 Times. 50 years went by who havent they gone once? uh

          Did you know that during WWII over 60,000,000 people died. And most of whom were civilians, bystanders, innocent women and children. They were shot at, bombed, killed, butchered, drowned burned alive etc etc, how come nobody mentions them. But all you hear is Holocast this and Holocast. What were the Jews who died in WWII more important than those poor 60 million souls. You keep eating your grass pay taxes and be good sheep!

          • Oh dear lord, you just regurgitate the same BS over and over in the hopes it will become true, and clearly you don’t know how to read my comments.

            Idiocy #1 – You don’t seem to get the mentality of the U.S government at that time in the post-WWII, early Cold-War days, the U.S didn’t know the Russians were so far ahead of them until they put Sputnik into space and the ‘Space Race’ began and became a huge issue and the pressure was on to beat the Russians to the Moon, no matter what the cost.

            If you’ve bothered to actually research the subject you’d know practically everyone involved in the early days of the Apollo missions complained at some time or other later on that their technology was sub-par(one guy I believe called many systems ‘improvised’) as was their knowledge of all of the risks involved but the government didn’t care about the risks only that they accomplish their duty and get to the Moon before the Russians did.

            And FYI – it doesn’t actually take that great of technology to get into space, just good engineering of the vehicles/equipment and a big rocket. Doing it as safely as possible is another matter entirely, as is staying there for any extended period of time(in stable orbit).

            Once they achieved their goal of beating the Russians to the Moon why would they bother risking the safety of astronauts when unmanned craft could fulfill NASA’s mandates just as well if not better?

            You seem intent on believing no matter what that because they don’t see a reason to needlessly risk people’s lives anymore that is evidence they didn’t go to the Moon in the first place, which makes no sense.

            Idiocy #2 – the Hubble telescope doesn’t take ‘pictures’ in the traditional sense, it collects ‘photons’ or ‘light particles’ and allows us to view very distant objects that give off or reflect light in various wave lengths.

            You may as well try to see the ‘evidence’ on the Moon’s surface with your bare eyes.

            But we can see the reflectors left behind from a number of different telescopes here on Earth which could not be possible if they weren’t on the Moon’s surface, which you ignore so obviously even if we had great pictures you’d just say they were fake to continue being a tool.

            And there are high-res images of the Moon’s surface available online which although it’s not able to see the evidence itself it does allow you to see boulders and craters that are clearly visible in photographs from the Apollo missions exactly where they should be based on the photo’s and official info on the landing sites on the Moon.

            I can’t provide a link since then my post will not be posted, but there are a few different locations for high-res Moon images that can be found online so if you aren’t lazy you can find them for yourself. The best one is at the Arizona State University Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera(LROC) website.

            Idiocy #3 – I am an historical revisionist which includes holocaust revisionism seeking to show the Holocaust, although a horrible event did not involve the mass-exterminations of millions of Jews by way of gas chambers as claimed but not evidenced. The Holocaust mass-extermination victims that don’t exist are used to distract from the 10’s of millions of others killed in indiscriminate mass-bombings(started by the Allies) and nuclear attacks carried out by the Allies, supposedly in the name of stopping mass-murders.

            I don’t get your last paragraph at all, you just explained exactly why I am an historical revisionist and then somehow used that to imply I’m a grass eating sheep for not being an historical revisionist, but I am… wtf?

            The “evil Nazi’s” and the Holocaust are great propaganda which helps to cover up the numerous crimes and mass-murders committed by the Allies, and the brutal aftermath in which millions of German soldiers were purposefully starved to death in Allied POW camps and a large scale insurgency took place in ‘free’ Europe against the Allies for a decade after the official end of the war.

            Anyways, this is my last post dealing with your stubborn refusal to accept reality so you may as well not bother responding.

            Moan hoaxers are like cultists, they are firm in their beliefs and no amount of evidence will shake their faith that it’s all a lie and they are the only ones smart enough to know the truth so I should know better than to challenge a believer like you.

            Keep dreaming boy, but have a good(and likely paranoid) life.

          • Go back to the cave!

    • Poor Fuckgreece, he seems to have an issue with communicating his thoughts!

  16. those retards coultnt go to the moon today let alone in go in the 1960s 6 times

  17. This is mindless misinformation. Doesn’t deserve an ounce of attention

  18. ”This video was produced solely for misinformational purposes”

    Did you use Adobe Premiere to edit this crap?

  19. Thought this was a joke at first. Obviously not a man who has studied much science. Hit the books sir.

  20. Very misleading documentary that is full of non-sequitur after non-sequitur. The bald and evidence-less assertion that NASA murdered astronauts is perhaps the most despicable claim.

  21. Politicians are puppets and nothing more.

  22. Appeal to authority. Just because one former president isn’t convinced of the moon landing, it doesn’t follow that serious doubt must be cast. He was a politician, not a scientist.

    Fail.

  23. How Stanley Kubrick
    Faked the Apollo Moon Landings:
    Or How I learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Lies.
    Alchemical Kubrick II

    According to DARK SIDE OF THE MOON, the most important film of its kind since Oliver Stone’s JFK – or since Rob Reiner’s This is Spinal Tap, at any rate – images of Neil Armstrong’s walk on the moon on July 20, 1969 were shown to the world through the lens of master film-maker Stanley Kubrick and were staged on the same Borehamwood, U.K., sound stage where Kubrick made his landmark film, 2001: A Space Odyssey.

    “The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone
    of any significance in the major media.”
    -William Colby,
    former CIA Director

    While the events in Egypt and Tunisia show signs of hope beginning to overcome the tyranny of dictatorship and oppression for decades, the people are just scratching the surface in exposing the deception and betrayal to humanity and our environment. This is especially true for the USA with nuclear devices, including the H-bomb, detonated in outer space in the 1950’s and 1960’s. The Generals discovered how these bombs back-fired and integrated deadly radiation into the Van Allen belts. These are Earth-core magnetic radiation that surrounds our globe that protects our atmosphere from harmful solar radiation. What proof do we have that man can pass through the Van Allen belts? Since the claimed Apollo missions no one has claimed to have travelled beyond 400 miles Earth. The moon is 200,000 miles away. The only time I heard of a mission researching how far they could travel since the claimed-Apollo missions was in 1998. CNN reported: “The radiation belts surrounding Earth may be more dangerous for astronauts than previously believed. The phenomenon known as the ‘Van Allen Belts’ can spawn ‘Killer Electrons’ that can dramatically affect the astronauts’ health.” The shuttle astronauts got to find this out at only 350 miles from Earth. (This is hundreds of miles from the beginning of the Van Allen belts, which extend a further 25,000 miles away!) The 1998 Shuttle crew was better equipped with more advanced radiation shielding. However, the Shuttle astronauts reported “seeing” radiation with their eyes closed. Intense radiation penetrated their shielding as it went through the retinas of their closed eyes. This is only the tip of massive evidence of a fake lunar visitation and landing. The big lies are more than most people can accept. No wonder why the obvious building demolitions of the World Trade Centre remain a myth, though its reality was used to justify our latest rounds of wars, energy-currency military “strategic” operations. When you follow the money trail, we see the footprints of an elitist world domination order, end-less wars, loss of civil liberties, crimes against humanity and nature.

    • “Dark Side Of The Moon”, or “Operation Lune” to give it its original title from French TV…Is a bloody MOCKUMENTARY!! You IDIOT! It’s taking the PISS out of moronic moon landing deniers!! That’s where all this Stanley Kubrick HORSESHIT stems from…and all you idiots BELIEVED IT!! HahahahaHAHAHA!! That’s bloody priceless!
      Look it up if you don’t believe me!! There’s a whole Wikipedia page on it!

    • One of the Shuttle astronauts who saw radiation (subjective but plausible) was actually on the International Space Station at the time after an extended period in space. He got blasted by radiation from a solar flare. These, whilst common, are infrequent enough that they simply had to hope that one didn’t happen during the moon mission. Human expansion of the frontiers has always been fraught with danger. The moon mission was no exception.

      It’s disappointing that after a couple thousand years of modern science, people still believe nonsense like this. Go pray to the sun fckhead.

      *edit* Mir, not the ISS

    • dont like conspiracies much then!!

    • Actually, Debbie… you’re more right than many of the people posting here know.  The more deeply people become embedded in the big lie, the more vitriolic their responses when that lie is challenged.  

    • oh my good lord you are all a bunch of kcufing morons 

    • It’s hard to take you seriously when you quote this:

      “According to DARK SIDE OF THE MOON, the most important film of its kind since Oliver Stone’s JFK – or since Rob Reiner’s This is Spinal Tap”

      If I said “This is the most important documentary since Duece Bigelow”, I would look as silly as you do.

      • This is a quote from “DARK SIDE OF THE MOON”. It is their comment not mine. I quoted the entire paragraph as it was written. It is known as ‘giving the source”.

        Calling me silly for quoting another is just as silly. If that is the total of your complaint I find it difficult to take you seriously also.

        Further more I did watch the documentary of Stanley Kubrick’s wife and those who assisted in the making of moon landing film with her husband. I was impressed enough to consider it a very strong possibility that the moon landing itself was a fake.

  24. Alot of the feedback claims that this is BS, but give no counter arguements for what is seen in this video. I uncertain about whether the moon landing took place or not, if it did, cudos for pulling it off, a feat of strength to say the least.

    However, I get the impression that most commentators here are Americans and feel strongly about this subject and instinctively lash out and claim this to be BS. That is understandable, but try not to see it as an attack on America.

    Rather a quest for truth, ofcourse the maker wants the truth to be the hoax option, but you should use this video to counter his claims and show the errors in his claims, rather than just call BS and leave it at that.

    Thanks for reading.

    • I’m not Amercian I had recognise this movie as being complete hog wash.

    • I’m Irish and have zero vested interest in the subject. It’s difficult to refute the evidence in this film because …well, there is no evidence. It’s just repeated assertions with only a weak collection of points selected to encourage distrust in the ‘official story’. Articulate an argument from it and i’ll answer. The whole film boils down to someone saying “yeah, right, I don’t believe it” and that’s where it starts and ends. No reason, just disbelief. Very childish.

  25. OK, you’ve made your point, you really believe it was a hoax. But don’t rub it in the face of those old guys, even Michael Moore would have more respect for them.
    You live in a democracy, that gives you the right to believe whatever you want, not to disrespect others.

    That said, it is interesting to see that Busch wanted to send robots first, to see what it’s like up there, before he sends men. Don’t we know what’s like up there already?

    • I completely agree. Some interesting points were made and critically analyzing documents is great, but the antagonizing of old men was downright disgraceful. Even if it was a hoax, you have to allow yourself some degree of understanding of the pride they have when they talk to other American’s who truly believe it. I personally don’t believe that we landed on the moon, but when talking to my parents and grandparents I let the topic go because I understand the significance it had and the impact it made on their lives. I’m glad you got punched in the face and even though I agree with your general idea, I would punch you in the face too!

  26. I loved this documentary! I rated it a 10 to get the average up, because everyone should see this! At times some interesting questions were raised and I went on the internet to look for the answers… and surprise! Perfectly good explanations exist 🙂

    This documentary is a piece of crap that is very entertaining. Next to some interesting questions being raised (I’m not a scientist), most questions are just downright stupid.

    And what’s the big deal with the Apollo spacecraft traveling a huge distance? The documentary maker tries to make this seem impossible by putting it into a ludicrous perspective. I don’t even want to go into that since it’s so stupid and it would be a waste of my time to explain it.

    The best part of the documentary is when the documentary maker gets punched in the face by I think Buzz Aldrin, because he called Aldrin a liar and a coward! This old dude just hooks the loony right in his face! Awesome!

    • It looks like the Soviet Union won the propaganda war in the end.  They were certainly playing a long game, but it would have been more expensive to go to the moon than to wait for the americans to convince themselves that it didn’t actually happen. I’m not even convinced Sergi Pavlovich Koroliev would have been happy.

  27. They left things on the moon we can see with powerfull enough telescopes, like the flag and a reflector dish we actually continue to use to this day. The only reason they went to the moon was to proove they could, they collected samples, and needed no more. Now they are focusing on other moons like Europa. I hate this moronic stuff. MAN WAS ON THE MOON!!! YOU ONLY NEED A TELESCOPE TO SEE THE EVIDENCE!!! end of argument.

    • dont they have telescopes. Shit Hubble telescope can see galaxies tens of hundreds if not thousands of light years away, Why dont they point the Hubble towards the mood and take a few pics of the EVIDENCE they left behind. UH? In a couple of years Japan is going to send a satellite to the moon which should be able to prove it once and for all

      • Hubble doesn’t see objects light-years away. It images objects which have angular sizes within its ability to resolve, which is determined by the diameter of its objective mirror. It’d take a mirror close to a hundred feet in diameter to just barely resolve the Apollo Lunar Module from this distance.

      • Actually because the moon is so and earths atmosphere unsteady you cannot see the flag on the moon with a telescope. Explanation here -http://www.rocketroberts.com/astro/flag_on_moon.htm

        You can however fire a laser at a reflector dish on the moon to judge it’s distance from Earth.

  28. Did I miss something where one second they were talking about the laser mirror and then magically switched topics? maybe I missed a segment…I hope so otherwise very weak indeed.

  29. Clinton did not say it was a hoax
    This docu”Drama” takes it complete out of context saying that Billy is the only guy who “knows” it to be a hoax

  30. Just started watching this and already, something has been taken out of context.

    A paragraph from Clinton`s book is used to infer that Clinton is speculative about the moon landings. In the paragraph, when Clinton calls a moon landing doubter `ahead of his time“, there is no reason to believe Clinton is doing anything other than showing his knowledge of media bias.

    Tactics like this are the reason documentaries are a dangerous format. I personally enjoy the possibility that the moon landings could be a hoax, and wouldn`t be all that surprised. But documentaries like this are plagues to the credible documentary world.

  31. Seriously? Your radiation belt info is self explanatory and you have to be pretty ignorant to not see it. We don’t orbit inside the radiation belt because it IS dangerous, and the men heading to the Moon, were only exposed for about 3 hours. Orbiting would be MUCH longer. Also, how retarded is it to ask why we haven’t gone higher than 400 miles? You should visit a Saturn rocket to understand the amount of power, fuel, and money it takes to accomplish that. Why would a shuttle NEED to go higher? This is babbling jibberish.

  32. This is a sad steaming pile of crap. Whoever buys into this documentary is lacking in serious critical thinking skills. What a pathetic attempt. It’s full of ridiculous speculation that if thought about for a mere moment, would be discredited along with all the other bullshit conspiracy crap. So lame. So fucking lame…

  33. I think it is sad that disbelievers and followers of “moon-hoax guru” Bill Kaysing are putting out this nonsense. Besides the obvious pseudo-science the really sad fact is that the Regan/Thatcher era marked the beginning of the “safe generations”; boring tow-the-line unadventurous students who sue their teachers for being on strike instead of helping them by showing solidarity; the “corporate generations”. Unambitious low life. Damn right we couldn’t get to the moon today. Why? Because the world is full of lazy young whippersnapper idiots just like the people who made this film.
    Having said that… I really enjoyed watching it. Best laugh I’ve had for some time. A comedy like no other.

  34. Mmm put like that it does sound a little far fetched

  35. Well, the truth has been unveiled. This is only the top of the mountain, among other misinformations throught US (short) history. Just about every other event has been faked in the name of spreading the war conflict internationally. That is America for YOU ! Consume it all.. and enjoy !

  36. Mythbusters won this round I think..

  37. Everyone who believes a word in this so called “documentary” is sick and author should be imprisoned.

  38. This insults my intellect. I can’t believe people believe this.

  39. Obviously this documentary is poorly made, by a college kid who was hoping to cash in on some Loose Change – esque success. Is it a good, well thought out documentary? Not in the slightest. The dude interjects his personal opinions throughout the entire movie, which makes his real points lose all of their luster.

    But, to claim that he doesn’t make any real arguments is naive. Why hasn’t anyone been back to the moon? Why does China(the current super-nation) not anticipate going to the moon until 2020? How were we able to send satellite video footage in almost real time, 240,000 miles away? Why are the astronauts secretive about what happened? Do you not think that if you went to the moon you would making mental images of everything? I know I would have a million stories to tell, what was it like being trapped in a spaceship for weeks, what were you thinking about when viewing the earth on your way to the moon? You have no stories that you are willing to tell all these years later?

    Now, saying this, who the fuck knows whether or not we went to the moon. But the fact that there are so many questions and inconsistencies gives you something to consider and ponder, which is all any good documentary does.

    Refusing to believe the information is one thing, to claim that its complete bullshit is moronic.

    • first of all:

      the claim that we didn’t go IS complete bullshit. the. end.

      mountains of evidence prove this. and, as mentioned earlier, the very idea that Russia would neglect to throw everything it had at proving that the US hadn’t gone to the moon (if the US hadn’t) is patently absurd. the US and Russia were ENEMIES at that time. what good would it do for them to maintain the secret also? and–while we’re on the topic, Russia’s much-touted history of successful space missions (at that time) certainly DID occur, but they also had a spectacular failure record at that time, too. and in fact, they probably *could* have gone to the moon–eventually–but evidently not before the US.

      furthermore, that anyone could possibly believe that nearly half a million people (and i’m talking employees here–not to friggin’ mention entire GOVERNMENTS and other civilians in the know) could keep a secret the size of the entire Apollo space program is…le sigh. it’s simply ridiculous.

      no matter how much “mind control” or “hush money” there was theoretically involved, it seems very much like the “nonbelievers” are neglecting to remember that these are HUMAN BEINGS controlling this program, not a bunch of fucking programmable robots. at some point, irrefutable evidence would reveal itself because some guy or gal would appear with indisputable proof, looking for some attention or to clean his/her conscience. human beings are the main reason why most conspiracy theories collapse in on themselves.

      finally…i am getting pretty tired of people asking “well if we could go in 1965 why can’t we go now? how come other countries aren’t going/haven’t gone?”: 1.): we essentially *could* go again today (i.e., we possess the necessary technology), it’s just REALLY FUCKING EXPENSIVE. ever heard of the “Discovery Program”? that’s where NASA instituted the “Faster, Better, Cheaper” philosophy because the US gov’t severely cut NASA’s budget in the 1990s. without a clear-cut mission/goal, or without any obvious returns (beyond the starry-eyed “it’ll be totally awesome for humanity”), it’s fiscally retarded to just randomly send astronauts to the moon. you know how much the total cost of the program was? it was calculated at 25.4 billion by its close in the mid-70s. that’s 107 billion (in 2005 dollars!). that is why the US hasn’t yet gone back (oh and…we were going to go back: they were Apollo 18-20. it just got REALLY GOD-DAMNED EXPENSIVE and the missions were scrapped).
      2.) you want to know why no other country has gone to the moon as of yet? because why fucking WOULD they? what purpose would it serve? so said country could declare, “yay! we’re second on the moon! it only took us X number of years, it’s no longer politically significant, and we had to drastically raise taxes in order to do it… but we did it!”

      honestly, people, humans didn’t get to the moon on jellybean wishes and unicorn kisses. it took a lot of mistakes, a LOT of money, and a LOT of brains, but it was done.

      and lastly: seriously…if these “disbelievers” honestly believe humans didn’t go to the moon…fucking prove it somehow. humans proved that it could be done by FUCKING DOING IT. jesus. asking questions is not the same as refuting something. ask all the questions you want, just don’t bust a capillary when you’re proven incorrect.

  40. Wow, once the narrator misinterpreted (willfully, I imagine) Clinton’s statement that he believed that the old carpenter might have been right, I realised I was listening to a narration built on error. Clinton was clearly stating that he wondered if the carpenter was right about people being able to make false images and assertions through the media. Which is what this documentary is – a falsehood being perpetrated through sound and image.
    The distance from the earth thing is understood quite easily, even by non-scientists. Once you power up to leave high orbit (which, yes, is caused by the earths magnetism) it is a matter of just point and go – the speed that is achieved is created by a timed, and relatively short, rocket burst.
    The distance hardly matters at that time.
    I would like to know how much cocaine it takes to be this ignorant of reality.
    The makers of this documentary should learn about reality – its actually a safe mental space to exist within.

  41. if bill clinton wants all jews to die we should want to die too ! right?

    this guy is like 20 years old…how can you say shit about fuckin nasa when you’re still in college.

  42. Hmmm.

    America is not the only country in this world. And it had some pretty big competitors in Russia and China.

    Any conspiracy would need to include these countries. Americas enemies would have loved, absolutely loved, to get one transmission that did not come from the given position of the spacecraft on it’s way to the moon. They would love to be able to show photographs of an empty landing site. They would love to find the tiniest problem with the story of the moon landings.

    They couldn’t find one problem. Not with all their resources, not with all their will, not with all their hatred.

    Moon landings happened. And you have to be pretty deluded to think it’s a hoax, when you have no evidence, no credibly enemy of the state to back you up.

  43. Poorly made…ok I agree.
    BUT can someone explain why the piece of moon rock offered to The Netherlands after the mission ended turned out to be just some petrified wood?
    Please explain this to me.Thanks

  44. It’s not hard to keep something this big a secret. All you have to do is control the media, and no contradictory information gets out.
    Happens every day.

    • Fake comment used to spam a link to a website … if your service was any good you wouldn’t need to stoop to such low level, pathetic tactics. 

  45. wHAT A LOAD OF SHIT!

    Great punch from Buzz!

  46. Just in case anyone was taking this thing seriously..

    The calculation that estimated that a rocket that could make a trip to the moon would have to be the size of the empire state building etc. was done assuming a single stage rocket. Multi-stage rockets can accelerate to a much higher speed using less fuel because they discard the excess weight of the fuel tanks. This is why the Saturn 5 was so much smaller than this estimate.

    All the other “scientific” claims in this documentary can be dismissed in a similarly straightforward manor of you look a little beneath the surface. This is an example of how an irresponsible lack of fact-checking can lead to people being mislead. If you’re going to let a snippet of something that you see on the internet determine how you’re going to view the world, you owe it to yourself to do your own homework.

  47. To begin with, I don’t believe we humans have landed on the moon based on evidence I have seen and to what lengths a government will go to, to achieve what they needed to. I also don’t believe its fair to blame Americans or any other race for what their governments do or have done in the past. I’m not a scientist of any sort, just an observer like most of you, I’m sure. I was born in Italy and now live in Australia in case someone wants to have a go at me racially. I remember seeing the live telecast in black and white and we were allowed to take time off school to go watch it at a friends place. Wow it was exciting, but now that I’m older and wiser, I have the ability and freedom to ask questions and seek further factual evidence before I believe stuff. I was disappointed to learn the truth about this, just as I no longer believe in a God, religions, governments,money,father xmas,easter bunny or the tooth fairy. Dont judge me, it is my opinion and I only have to answer to myself and not any of you or your Gods.

    • “I don’t believe we humans have landed on the moon”

      To begin with, no body cares what you believe.

  48. I got no reason to say Fuck America. Just because they are ignorant sheep it doesnt mean I should say Fuck America. If you know your history well Americans invented PROPAGANDA , the american government is a master at manipulation their population and making them believe any bullshit. NASA scientists themselves admitted that at the time in the 60s Russian Space Technology was 20 years ahead of the Americans, The Russians had more experience and clocked more hours in space so HOW did the Americans out of the blue one day just go to the moon and come back. Im not hatting or anything I dont deny americans sending the Rovers to Mars but Moon landing was bullshit!

  49. geez… why don’t you just skip the big words and say, “i’m dumb.” they didn’t use hard drives.:D

  50. Gotta agree that NYCityCop9 is a joke. He should go back to playing with GI Joe rather posting his fantasies online.

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