Cyntoia’s Story: The 16 Year Old Killer

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In 2004, Cyntoia Brown was arrested for the murder of a 43-year-old man. Cyntoia was a prostitute and he was her client.

Film-maker Daniel Birman was granted unique access to Cyntoia from the week of her arrest, throughout her trial and over a period of six years. His documentary explores the tragic events in her life that led up to the murder, and Cyntoia’s biological mother meets he daughter for the first time since giving her up for adoption 14 years earlier.

The film explores the history of abuse, violence, drugs and prostitution back through three generations. As Cyntoia faces a lifetime in prison, the programme asks difficult questions about her treatment by the American justice system.

Cyntoia's Story: The 16 Year Old Killer, 9.0 out of 10 based on 42 ratings

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  • http://Google Jamie Edwards

    What a shame, she should NOT be in prison. I hope those hillbillys are happy they put an abused, misguided child in prison. I pray she gets her freedom.

    • Benny Diggs

      They put the wrong people in jail and let criminals run free. America

  • sam

    Couldn’t agree with you more Benny!

  • Holly

    This documentary broke my f**king heart…and made my blood boil. A grown man picks up a 16 year old CHILD for sex deserves to be shot. period.

    • Dave

      Age of consent in some countries is 12. Girls get their periods at 12….if you have a problem with girls being designed to reproduce at 12, take it up with god. I do not condone sex with minors, however it is a fact that 10,000+ years ago, our life expectancy was around 20-25, therefore most humans would have reproduced by12-14.

      • Herbin Flamez

        Yeah in some countries… We are not talking about or witnessing this as if it occurs in some countries. This is an American issue, in which at 15-16 years of age given mental health and abuse issues; life in prison is simply excessive. Adults who commit drug related murders get lighter sentences. If this was your daughter or a relative of your family, I HIGHLY doubt you would use the age of consent argument in that case. If you have a talking point, please make sure it can stand basic scrutiny before even posting it; otherwise it will be shot down as obsolete and outright idiotic as your argument/point clearly is.

      • Herbin Flamez

        To dave:

        your point has no relevance to Holly’s statement nor Cyntoia;s situation. Please come with an educated response or don’t come at all….

      • kat

        Dave, Dave, Dave. You are showing your lack of ability to understand things. 1) no girl at the age of 12 “wants” to give consent. Duress is not consent. It would have been nice if you would have named the other countries in your opinion. You want to compare but don’t list the names. Why is that? Could it be that you are just speculating or are these countries that have human rights issues? 2) Girls are not designed to reproduce at 12! It takes years for a girl to become a woman and a period is just the start of the process. That is why there are laws about having sex with minors. 3) If your opinion on life expectancy 10,000 years ago is a true fact, why didn’t you reference the material from which you gained that knowledge? You typed, “therefore most humans would have reproduced by 12-14.” When you use words like most and would have, that is speculation, not fact. Here’s a fact for you: reproduction is not what was intended in this incident.

        • Herbin Flamez

          Well stated Kat….

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  • Tricia

    such a sin, poor baby.The system has definitely failed here. I bawled my eyes out.

  • FERENC CSICSERI

    It’s very sad because all those charges what they put on this girl is so wrong I’ believe she should pay a prize what she did but all this could be avoided if we don’t have Man who seeks young and underage girls for sex he get what he deserve.and the same time like Casey Antony’s case how come the jury sais she is not guilty when we all know she murdered that child she come out not guilty and this girl who evidently self defense been condemned for life something is very wrong with our justice system I’am confused what the law protect the child molesters or the victims

  • Hugh Ford

    She got what she deserved all of you all that are crying “awe poor baby” are morons this “kid” has had an ongoing relationship with a dope dealer getting high. She was probably trying to rob this guy. I know shes full of shit. the dope dealer doent have to take a woman. they ride his jock because he has dope. her story falls apart at too many levels. shes in the right place.

    • [email protected]

      Even if that was the case; a 42 year old man soliciting sex from a minor deserves to be robbed.; by all means; He was robbing her of her body (by misguided consent for one) and further robbing her of her innocence. He lived his life before He took interest in soliciting sex with her at age 16. Nobody is saying that she doesn’t deserve to be punished for the crime; however, life in prison for a life that can be corrected is extreme is what we are saying; especially with a at risk youth who’s trailer trash mother uneducated mother abandonded her as a baby; with a history of mental disorders in her background which was proven by psycologists, leaving her to seek acceptance from evil elements at a childs age not truly knowing right from wrong because wrong appears to be right when there is no guidance in a childs life. That same drug dealer you speak of who would commit a drug related murder would get less that a life sentence so your point is not well exhibited. You ought to be ashamed of yourself for posting such a separatist comment which exhibits your support of a grown ass middle age man soliciting sex/prostitution from a child because that in essence is what you are saying. I pray that you don’t have a daughter/never have a daughter with that type of outlook….

    • Sway

      your comment as a whole tells me what kind of person you are. Obviously you are a pig!

  • [email protected]

    http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/free-cyntoia-brown

    If this was your daughter or a female in your family would you hesitate to sign?

  • Micah

    This makes me so sad. This is an intelligent, thoughtful woman, who had lived an unstable, sad life. Not one moment did I look at this girl and think “there is a sick, conscienceless person” instead I saw someone who was troubled. If you had been abused physically, sexually and verbally for 16 years of life – you might panic when a 42 year old man brings you home, shows you guns, grabs your legs violently then lays you down and reaches down the side of your bed. For her, people hurting her was a reality and what she did seemed to make the most sense to her. At such a young age when the brain is still developing would it not be better to deal with the psychological issues rather than institutionalizing them?

    • Herbin Flamez

      Well Said Micah………..

  • ORANGEMELLY

    I was sexually abused as a child and grew up in a dysfunctional family rife with mental illness..I am now 45 and have been diagnosed with personality disorder..I am screwed up and see a psychologist on a weekly basis..Given the opportunity I would shoot the men who abused me…I am serving a life sentence…As far as I am concerned this man had sex with a minor…he got what he deserved…. the same cannot be said for Cyntoia.

  • Herbinflamez

    http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/free-cyntoia-brown

    Sign if you have a heart.. Sign if you have a daughter. Sign if you were an at risk youth who was manipulated by adults as a child. Sign if you were mis-raised, mis-lead and mis-treated by adults as a teenager/child. Ladies….sign if all you wanted was to be accepted and didn’t know or wasn’t shown the dangers of following the wrong influences as a child/teenager. Sign if you are able to put yourself in the shoes of despair for a second and appreciate what you have which is your freedom. Sign if you wish to help someone other than yourself; this is a perfect opportunity to take a small action that could have a huge affect for someone you don’t know personally.

  • Sway

    “Acceptance and admiration, hell yeah” Smart girl. I’m a sex worker and i couldn’t have put it better myself. This girls is too smart to be rotting in a jail cell because of her circumstance.

  • Herbin Flamez

    Although it is appreciated that most are leaving comments in favor of Cyntoia; taking the time to express your anger about the situation; making the time to write paragraphs in expression of your stance and disagreement with the system. However, taking the extra smaller effort to actually sign the petition on the other hand is what is actually important. Your comments are all good, but to actually help her and make a change, why not sign the petition? It takes less time than it took for you to write a comment……Cyntoia does not have access to sites with video so she cannot read your comments….If you want to help her; sign the damn petition; if not; your comment in favor of her will go unrecognized……

    http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/free-cyntoia-brown

    • Sway

      signed!

  • Nidhish Mehra

    What a sorrowing story. However, in this instance it is right for Cyntoia to spend all the jailing times, isn’t it? One’s society cannot have its members going around doing the murders willy-nilly. My heart and sympathies go from my chest to the family of Mr Johnny. Their lives forever destroyed by this heartless prostitute.

    • Herbin Flamez

      @Nidhish mehra

      I suppose that coming from a region of the world that trains their young to champion child prostitution, then as men you are trained to foster the devaluation of the female and the rape and torture of your women and female children be in middle east or India, it is no suprise that “your heart and sympathies go from your chest to the family of Mr. Johnny”. It is shameful that more Indian and Middle Eastern Women are made to feel powerless and won’t stand up to protect themselves and kill off some of you cowardly hearted, abusive and weak minded “women with penises” in that part of the world… type of men who back down from altercation and disagreement from other men but lift your hand to your woman and beat her as if she is an animal, sell your daughters and wives into prostitution and you call Cyntoia heartless? (not saying all arab men nor all Indian men but we all know the culture in your part of the world.) This is America, where our women can and will only take so much punishment before the world causes them to loose mind and take life; like most anyone….because of what we as men and as a nation put them or allow them to go through. Our women are a reflection of us as men. We were placed on this earth first and then the woman as our help-mate…. This was a 15/16 year old girl who became heartless due to the very evil elements that your heart sympathizes with. Go figure…..and expected……from a male (not deserving to called a man) such as yourself.

      http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/free-cyntoia-brown

      • Nidhish Mehra

        What a wonderful country! Of course this is the IRONY. My friend. I have spent several unfortunate months in your country. Philadelphia, for exactness. It is a SLUM! Worse than any Mumbai or Delhi slum. You have the brain problems, I am sincerely sorry if I am the truthful speaker in your life today. Only a brain with absence accepts a man may be having the sex with prostitutes and agree maybe he will be the murdering victim!!! Prostitutes are for the good and happy times. Not the murder my friend.

        • Herbin Flamez

          Do you really think that refreshing your computer to tally down my statement is going to affect the truth in which I speak about your womanizing culture? A culture that has been documented time and time again throughout history which devalues your women? Do you think that humanity really cares where you are in your life mentally and physically, what you’re about and your stance toward women as a weak minded hypocrite that you are proving yourself to be here….. Facts are facts….as far as you being a truth speaker; now that is hilarious….your statement about prostitutes being there for the good times is in fact a statement from a man with a lack of being considered good by any means, and prostitution for you may be the only form of physical and sexual contact with a woman so to that I see your points… Your dillusion is par excellence and those reading your statements and witnessing your action here would realize it could perhaps be your up-bringing and culture; what an example you set in proving me correct and living up to the stereotype set against you based on the reputation of the men in your culture…..(As I said, I know good Arab and Indian brothers who cherish women as gold as do I), but you are clearly not one of them. I agree that perhaps the part of Philly that you could afford to stay in could be a slum….the best and most creative people on earth come from impoverished places and the fact that you were there was a detriment to the slum that you call unbearable and unfortunate. You however are no excuse…..starting a petition in which you are the only signature…an army of none…. then you troll around here as though you are creating a positive image of your people…Mental illness is your forte` evidently. I only respond to highlight your bullshit; not to entertain your lack of manhood and lack of righteous existence.

      • Herbin Flamez

        http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/14/world/asia/4-sentenced-to-death-in-rape-case-that-riveted-india.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

        http://documentaryheaven.com/bridal-slaves/

        http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/18850-trafficking-of-children-and-women-in-india

        Supportive Resources of my earlier claims…..

        If there are any other pedophiles and womanizers beast enough to step up and challenge me with some real knowledge and truth; feel free because your scumbag colleague “Nidhish Mehra” is clearly mis-representing your cause….

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  • Nidhish Mehra
    • Herbin Flamez

      Satans work………

    • Ak

      i could tell you what to do with your petition, but……

  • Ak

    @Nidhish
    New Delhi….the brutal rape of a young woman on a moving bus set off big protests across India and was covered widely around the world.the woman so brutally raped that her intestines were destroyed. This particular rape inspired so much outrage, when sexual violence is, sadly, so pervasive and commonplace there….pervasive and commonplace being key words to the likes of Mr Nidish, who seems to be a cheerleader for these type of actions…The rape may have drawn great public anguish because it came to symbolize the collected grievances of hundreds of millions of women in your part of the world and internationally ….women/young girls who suffer because of those of YOUR exsistance Nidhish, who promote anything close to abuse and advantage like in the case of Cyntoia Brown…you said and i quote “One’s society cannot have its members going around doing the murders willy-nilly”….well in a society like America and maybe to your surprise Nidhish outside of America….”Our society cannot have Old Ass Sick Men going around soliciting underage misguided girls for sex willy-nilly either”…for you to openly and clearly support this speaks volumes…wives are good for happy times Nidhish, not prostitutes…clearly you are unable to get one….so you ride first class on the pedophile train…..make sure and enjoy your ride to hell along with Mr Johnny and whom ever else supports you….Sick F@#k!

    • Vernet

      Truth!

  • Nidhish Mehra

    Too many angry words to me. I am sorry that you don’t understand the prostitute purpose.

  • Nidhish Mehra

    It has clearness that the angry fellows and myself (Nidhish) are conversing on the separate issue, isn’t it? For the clear factor let me be plainness. 1) The murder of ANY and ALL mans by the prostitutes has no acceptability in our modern and enlightened society. 2) Maybe it is not so enjoyable job for her because she is a little bit of the younger youth one, isn’t it? But it is indeed not the problem of Mr Johnny that she is younger and unhappy to be the prostitute, isn’t it? 3) I am sureness that her value is actually highest because of the being the younger one. So it is even more craziness to be murdering angry at a third party who is not indeed Mr Johnny in any instance when she can make the great salary, isn’t it?

  • Tess

    This is a very sad situation for all involved, especially Cyntoia. However, due to her horrible life experiences, this young girl’s mental illness will continue to deteriorate as she progresses through life. She will -due to the nature of her personality disorder- inevitably commit more, and possibly worse crime’s if she is freed from prison. Unfortunately, there is not currently a cure for her mental illness. She can only improve with ongoing psychiatric care- which she will receive in prison.

    Freeing Cyntoia is a compassionate option, in theory. However, once freed, where do you suppose that she goes? She will go back into the same environment that has already caused her so much suffering.

    The sad truth of this whole situation is that she is far safer in prison, where she can make healthy human attachments, receive psychiatric treatment and be well away from drugs and prostitution.

    I believe that many of you have missed the whole point of this documentary. It is not about whether she is guilty or innocent. It is that, due to her mental illness, this young girl is a danger to society as her illness progresses. And that there is no other option than prison or a psychiatric ward for people like Cyntoia. It is not her fault, but this is just the way that her life has gone. It is very very sad.

    • Nidhish Mehra

      A very intelligible and thinking answer, Tess. It is true that Cyntoia must forever be the jailbird. Murdering the people is not fine and ok, isn’t it? Thank you for you comment.

    • Herbin Flamez

      “Freeing Cyntoia is a compassionate option, in theory. However, once freed, where do you suppose that she goes? She will go back into the same environment that has already caused her so much suffering. ”

      To answer your question; if freed; she goes to a community with loving arms outstretched with forgiveness, vigilance and corrective love willing to give her the chance at a fair life. The whole idea that she’s “safer” in jail is total lunacy. Nobody has even stated that she does not deserve punishment for murder; but life is an excessive sentence. The human mind is much more resilient than you give even yourself credit for; assuming and realizing that you too are human… You’re last statement assuming that “she will go back into the same environment that has already caused her so much suffering” is static BS; the fact there is no insanity plea in the case if proof positive of this. She wasn’t convicted as an insane minor; She was put on trial as an adult and sentenced without conjunction or recognition that she was in fact “mentally ill”….This judge did not recognize this in her sentencing; therefore hold no validation in your stance…. Although proven to be; she WAS NOT TRIED AS SUCH; therefore your point is not withstanding according to the judgement of the court. If she was irrevocably “mentally ill”; she’d be in a psychiatric ward not in a prison cell for the rest of her life…. While cowardly men promoting prostitution (Nidhish) are allowed to roam freely and spew poisonous luciferian ideologies co-signing on the demise of women; and taking it personally when a child in Cyntoia’s shoes (and yes, 16 years old is not considered an adult in USA…18 is) and in this case a young lady who made a mistake; there are higher crimes committed by men that get less punishment. THIS IS THE POINT!!! Who are any of you to say that Cyntoia doesn’t deserve a second chance? God forbid your daughter makes a mistake such as this (if you are blessed to have a daughter); you will be quick to turncoat on your current stance without a shadow of a doubt.

      http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/free-cyntoia-brown

      • Nidhish Mehra

        Herbin Flamez I am suspecting you are also a black people? Is this the true things?

        http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/keep-the-murdering-prostitut?source=c.url&r_by=8802199

      • Tris

        Herbin and Vernet,

        Whilst I appreciate and respect your human rights intent, I think this should remain about the issues at hand and not about the individuals who hold specific opinions.

        I think it is unacceptable to put people down on the grounds of moral superiority because they hold an opinion that contradicts your own.

        People are all at varying stages of healing in the fabric of life. No one is going to just disappear or change on the spot because you want them to – no matter how forcefully you approach them.

        I hope you can see what I’m trying to say – it’s always difficult to convey a tone in text.

        I too believe that Cyntoia should not be in prison, however I am yet to learn of a more suitable alternative for her. I think If there was a suitable and affordable psychiatric facility for initial admission and assessment to develop a suitable treatment plan with ongoing outpatient – again affordable – psychiatric and psychological treatment then that would be a good option. Would she have access to that?

        I can confidently say that I have great knowledge and experience with regard to Borderline Personality Disorder – A debilitating, painful, destructive and highly complicated behavioral disorder. BPD is debilitating and painful for the sufferer and is very destructive for the loved ones of the sufferer – and the treatment is complicated and difficult to access (due to cost and also a part of the disorder being a pervasive fear of commitment to treatment by the sufferer)

        A bit about my story, to give context…

        When I looked into my partner’s eyes before we separated I saw the deepest sadness I have ever seen. Words cannot describe what I saw. I felt I was seeing living hell in it’s rawest form. I am shaped into a different man from that experience. I am now a 28 yo single father to our beautiful 2 year old daughter. Although my ex partner didn’t understand why it was happening at the time we separated, she does understand now.

        Having been admitted to a psychiatric hospital, receiving a harrowing diagnosis of BPD, starting a new relationship whilst still in hospital, having 3 abortions over the following 6 months and going through successive unstable relationships as an ongoing saga – she now understands and has accepted through the limited counselling she actually attended – that she crushed me, my family and would have destroyed our child emotionally had that separation not have occurred. I didn’t leave her – I focused my attention on our child. She created the separation as she perceived rejection by me, although this was never my intent.

        Despite her knowledge of her illness she is still a risk to our child and refuses to see our little one (despite me going through everything possible to try to make things work after she was diagnosed). This is because she is aware of how destructive she is to anyone who loves her. It is also because she knows that she will not cope with two things – 1, the separation after visiting me and our daughter (as in her entire life with completely fall apart and she will likely be suicidal – this is because she relives the suffering of childhood separations every time she perceives a rejection event) and 2, that our child doesn’t know her very well (it’s been 14 months) and will not give her the gratification she needs to fill her empty soul and is therefore unable to temporarily fill her empty inner void where self-love would otherwise be present. I can’t describe the suffering I’ve been through over this and how much I wish she could just be with us and how much I wish my love was enough.

        I have found some peace, however I remain uninterested in dating. I will eventually fully move on but a part of me will remain with her forever. I don’t think I will ever get that back.

        Her mother abandoned her when she was 2 and left her with an abusive father.

        Her disorder matured as she entered her 20′s and, despite some hit and miss treatment, is still worsening. Not having her daughter was still not enough for her to commit to treatment. She was offered all the love in the world and yet, through the shear force and pervasive nature of her terrible illness, she created destruction all around her with manipulation, emotional blackmail and terrible lies. Those were survival mechanisms she learned as a child to get love from anyone she could – to fill the black void her mother’s rejection and her father’s abuse left behind.

        From what I understand; through committed treatment and formal intervention – often at great expense – some people can overcome the worst of this illness to lead a less painful life. Usually they must endure and cause ongoing suffering until they either take their own life or commit to meaningful change. And even under ideal circumstances change is extremely slow and bumpy – and usually only lasts until a stressful life event throws the sufferer back to where they started, or at least seriously sets them back. Yes it is usually a bleak outlook – but not always.

        Every BPD sufferer is different and the symptoms can present slightly differently – it’s a set of criteria and describes a set of psychiatric symptoms. But BPD sufferers all share one thing in common – they have been diagnosed with a serious psychiatric illness that requires specialist treatment. Unfortunately most sufferers are free to continue with destructive relationships – and they either choose empathetic and loving people whose lives they turn upside down or seriously abusive people who damage them further (like Cyntoia). Often terrible outcomes can result for the partner, including depression and suicide. The partner’s family often takes a tumble too as they watch their family member being destroyed and no matter how much they try to warn that person of the cause of the problems, the BPD sufferer is so manipulative it is no use.

        I am referring to overwhelming instances I have come across which are so similar to my situation and I am not solely reflecting what happened to me.

        I was fortunate in that I took myself to a psychologist and identified what was happening before it was too late. She had me thinking there was something “wrong” with me. My psychologist dispelled that concern over time and helped me identify how it all came about. I am now studying psychology and my daughter has a healthy and secure attachment and is developing very well. Most are not so fortunate.

        When I am qualified I will be a drop in the ocean of people trying to help people like Cyntoia, along with others who are suffering to varying degrees, but I hope I can make a small difference. It could be a bigger difference but for the systems and political attitudes currently in place.

        In my opinion, with regard to this thread and the documentary to which it relates, the entire system needs to change.

        My ex partner will probably have more children and continue having unstable and destructive interpersonal relationships. As sad as it is I believe she would find greater peace in a secure environment where things remain stable, predictable and simple. If only governments would wake up and provide the in-patient and out-patient care needed for all people who suffer with a mental illness, but especially for people with a complicated illness like Cyntoia. It would likely become more financially viable than the overwhelming burden of welfare and incarceration costs which are currently used as painkillers, for what is to a certain extent a curable problem.

        Cyntoia may be young enough for some positive outcomes – but I think from what I have experienced in my situation and from what I understood of the documentary, the environment for this to happen is currently unavailable.

        Unconditional love and an open arms approach I believe will be noneffective on its own (although may be beneficial in combination with substantial formal treatment). This is a seriously hurt young person who I feel needs consistent formal psychiatric and psychological intervention over a number of years – and that is if she is able to commit to it, which is extremely difficult for a BPD sufferer (because they can’t get close enough to the therapist as they fear rejection and run away).

        This is also why she struggles to trust her constantly loving foster mother. She will likely act in accordance with her lack of trust, despite her acknowledgement that she should have opened up to her, and create instability. Believe me I have seen this all unfold in my own situation and it is so difficult to explain to people who haven’t also been there or who aren’t formally qualified to fully understand.

        My heart goes out to Cyntoia and I wept bitterly when she was sentenced. The system is upside down and this goes way beyond Cyntoia and other juveniles tried unfairly as adults.

        How many young ladies like Cyntoia who are 18, 19, 20, 21 years old are in there through similar circumstances? This is not an isolated event. How many people generally are in that prison and other prisons who got there as a result of a mental illness – and aren’t receiving proper treatment? For how many will the justice system compound their illness before people finally wake up and develop a system where unwell people are referred to proper help and held in a non-punishment oriented environment for treatment and then reintegration into society when they are healed enough? If such a system was set in place eventually it would become preventative – providing a better start for future generations where there is a family history of mental illness.

        Don’t we have a social responsibility to do something about this rather than simply lobby to set an example by setting one mentally ill young lady free from an unfair sentence in a ridiculous system? Cyntoia’s story is a window to something huge.

        If you break your leg you go to hospital, get treatment and go home. If you commit a crime as a result of a mental illness you go to prison, often with access to little or no treatment.

        I believe that many of those people could contribute to society positively with the right help.
        (Of course people who are a danger to others must be kept from society until treatment is sufficient, and if successful)

        I feel that it is the political perception on a large scale that must change.

        With regard to Cyntoia – I will happily sign the petition if there is a structured and affordable treatment plan in place that is integrated with her family and that she has a strong support network.

        But this still does not in any way guarantee a positive outcome. It is however a real chance for her. This is much more complicated than just freeing an unfairly treated young lady.

        Regardless of my opinion on what should happen with Cyntoia – and I can’t form a full opinion as I don’t have enough information – I strongly feel that Cyntoia’s life has been terribly unfair and her situation is deeply sad.

        She is a valuable human being deserving of love, without a shadow of a doubt.

        But she needs help from professionals – I think we are all unqualified to say what should happen with Cyntoia. Perhaps it is the Psychiatric and Psychology associations and organisations that should be lobbying for fundamental systemic change – aren’t they doing that already? Perhaps we should be lobbying in that direction?

        You all have such strong options – so much so that you feel it appropriate to make character judgments of others who have a right to an option, like Tess for example. I think she was saying it is sad that Cyntoia’s best opportunity to access treatment is in prison as a result of her diagnosis, age, education and socio-economic background and of course because of the system? Sometimes compassion is not self reflective or soothing. That’s what I read into it anyway.

        But I don’t know Cyntoia or her family personally and I don’t know what help is available to her if she is released, so again I reserve any strong opinions on what should happen, suffice to say I intend to campaign politically on the cause of the situation at some stage in my career.

        How many of you are in or have been in a relationship with a diagnosed borderline sufferer? How many of you are qualified (and currently registered) as a clinical psychologist or psychiatrist?

        I think you all have a right to your opinions. You are all fellow human beings who have had varying life experiences which have shaped your opinions on this.

        I think it’s great that this is being discussed openly like this as these discussion need to happen more often and over a wider community.Our differences highlight the political complications in trying to develop workable solutions. Again, although this is a highly emotionally charged topic, I think we should refrain from judgments of character on this forum. Everyone has opinions of other people but when they are brought into a debate like this the discussion becomes side tracked away from what matters. Instead it would be great if we can all put more effort into discussing Cyntoia’s story and, in my opinion, the context in which it has all come about.

        That’s all from me, thanks for reading.

    • bringmeredwine

      I agree with most of what you said, however, I doubt she’ll be able to form good attachments in prison, and that she’ll actually receive any psychiatric help. Other prisoners should be wary of her and what she’s capable of.
      She’s definitely in the wrong place.
      But that’s just my opinion!

  • Shar

    Would it be different if she killed a black man? I think so.
    “Social justice system.” What a pile of shit.

  • Nidhish Mehra

    I am sure Tess is a very good mummy and so no the daughter of Tess would to be the future prostitute, isn’t it?

    Only bad family life can make this variety of beastly girl. Society does not need Cyntoia or her same. The best indeed sole good result of this story is now she cannot make the breeding and perpetuating of this bad things.

    http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/keep-the-murdering-prostitut?source=c.url&r_by=8802199

    • Ak

      …with a mental like yours…i shutter to think what you can pass on to your child/children via “breeding” as you call it…that is if you are blessed with that capability and honor….and i shutter more at the thought of you owning a d#%k……you said that you are sure that her value is high because she is young, hence she can make a great salary…..and you call Cyntoia a beast/beastly???…..the words you type alone spew demonic possession…buy a mirror Nidhish….then look into it.

  • Bob Thomas

    You guys are fuckin crazy! Bitch shot the dude point blank for no reason. Fry the bitch.

    • Herbin Flamez

      As you wish upon others; so shall you reep…….and if this was your daughter; I would defend her on the behalf of all real men and put the torch and gasoline to her father for letting her down. Now go back to the pit of hell in which you came.

  • Vernet

    am afraid for our daughters because of men like Bob, Nidhish and sad to say even Tess.

    • Tris

      Herbin and Vernet,

      Whilst I appreciate and respect your human rights intent, I think this should remain about the issues at hand and not about the individuals who hold specific opinions.

      I think it is unacceptable to put people down on the grounds of moral superiority because they hold an opinion that contradicts your own.

      People are all at varying stages of healing in the fabric of life. No one is going to just disappear or change on the spot because you want them to – no matter how forcefully you approach them.

      I hope you can see what I’m trying to say – it’s always difficult to convey a tone in text.

      I too believe that Cyntoia should not be in prison, however I am yet to learn of a more suitable alternative for her. I think If there was a suitable and affordable psychiatric facility for initial admission and assessment to develop a suitable treatment plan with ongoing outpatient – again affordable – psychiatric and psychological treatment then that would be a good option. Would she have access to that?

      I can confidently say that I have great knowledge and experience with regard to Borderline Personality Disorder – A debilitating, painful, destructive and highly complicated behavioral disorder. BPD is debilitating and painful for the sufferer and is very destructive for the loved ones of the sufferer – and the treatment is complicated and difficult to access (due to cost and also a part of the disorder being a pervasive fear of commitment to treatment by the sufferer)

      A bit about my story, to give context…

      When I looked into my partner’s eyes before we separated I saw the deepest sadness I have ever seen. Words cannot describe what I saw. I felt I was seeing living hell in it’s rawest form. I am shaped into a different man from that experience. I am now a 28 yo single father to our beautiful 2 year old daughter. Although my ex partner didn’t understand why it was happening at the time we separated, she does understand now.

      Having been admitted to a psychiatric hospital, receiving a harrowing diagnosis of BPD, starting a new relationship whilst still in hospital, having 3 abortions over the following 6 months and going through successive unstable relationships as an ongoing saga – she now understands and has accepted through the limited counselling she actually attended – that she crushed me, my family and would have destroyed our child emotionally had that separation not have occurred. I didn’t leave her – I focused my attention on our child. She created the separation as she perceived rejection by me, although this was never my intent.

      Despite her knowledge of her illness she is still a risk to our child and refuses to see our little one (despite me going through everything possible to try to make things work after she was diagnosed). This is because she is aware of how destructive she is to anyone who loves her. It is also because she knows that she will not cope with two things – 1, the separation after visiting me and our daughter (as in her entire life with completely fall apart and she will likely be suicidal – this is because she relives the suffering of childhood separations every time she perceives a rejection event) and 2, that our child doesn’t know her very well (it’s been 14 months) and will not give her the gratification she needs to fill her empty soul and is therefore unable to temporarily fill her empty inner void where self-love would otherwise be present. I can’t describe the suffering I’ve been through over this and how much I wish she could just be with us and how much I wish my love was enough.

      I have found some peace, however I remain uninterested in dating. I will eventually fully move on but a part of me will remain with her forever. I don’t think I will ever get that back.

      Her mother abandoned her when she was 2 and left her with an abusive father.

      Her disorder matured as she entered her 20′s and, despite some hit and miss treatment, is still worsening. Not having her daughter was still not enough for her to commit to treatment. She was offered all the love in the world and yet, through the shear force and pervasive nature of her terrible illness, she created destruction all around her with manipulation, emotional blackmail and terrible lies. Those were survival mechanisms she learned as a child to get love from anyone she could – to fill the black void her mother’s rejection and her father’s abuse left behind.

      From what I understand; through committed treatment and formal intervention – often at great expense – some people can overcome the worst of this illness to lead a less painful life. Usually they must endure and cause ongoing suffering until they either take their own life or commit to meaningful change. And even under ideal circumstances change is extremely slow and bumpy – and usually only lasts until a stressful life event throws the sufferer back to where they started, or at least seriously sets them back. Yes it is usually a bleak outlook – but not always.

      Every BPD sufferer is different and the symptoms can present slightly differently – it’s a set of criteria and describes a set of psychiatric symptoms. But BPD sufferers all share one thing in common – they have been diagnosed with a serious psychiatric illness that requires specialist treatment. Unfortunately most sufferers are free to continue with destructive relationships – and they either choose empathetic and loving people whose lives they turn upside down or seriously abusive people who damage them further (like Cyntoia). Often terrible outcomes can result for the partner, including depression and suicide. The partner’s family often takes a tumble too as they watch their family member being destroyed and no matter how much they try to warn that person of the cause of the problems, the BPD sufferer is so manipulative it is no use.

      I am referring to overwhelming instances I have come across which are so similar to my situation and I am not solely reflecting what happened to me.

      I was fortunate in that I took myself to a psychologist and identified what was happening before it was too late. She had me thinking there was something “wrong” with me. My psychologist dispelled that concern over time and helped me identify how it all came about. I am now studying psychology and my daughter has a healthy and secure attachment and is developing very well. Most are not so fortunate.

      When I am qualified I will be a drop in the ocean of people trying to help people like Cyntoia, along with others who are suffering to varying degrees, but I hope I can make a small difference. It could be a bigger difference but for the systems and political attitudes currently in place.

      In my opinion, with regard to this thread and the documentary to which it relates, the entire system needs to change.

      My ex partner will probably have more children and continue having unstable and destructive interpersonal relationships. As sad as it is I believe she would find greater peace in a secure environment where things remain stable, predictable and simple. If only governments would wake up and provide the in-patient and out-patient care needed for all people who suffer with a mental illness, but especially for people with a complicated illness like Cyntoia. It would likely become more financially viable than the overwhelming burden of welfare and incarceration costs which are currently used as painkillers, for what is to a certain extent a curable problem.

      Cyntoia may be young enough for some positive outcomes – but I think from what I have experienced in my situation and from what I understood of the documentary, the environment for this to happen is currently unavailable.

      Unconditional love and an open arms approach I believe will be noneffective on its own (although may be beneficial in combination with substantial formal treatment). This is a seriously hurt young person who I feel needs consistent formal psychiatric and psychological intervention over a number of years – and that is if she is able to commit to it, which is extremely difficult for a BPD sufferer (because they can’t get close enough to the therapist as they fear rejection and run away).

      This is also why she struggles to trust her constantly loving foster mother. She will likely act in accordance with her lack of trust, despite her acknowledgement that she should have opened up to her, and create instability. Believe me I have seen this all unfold in my own situation and it is so difficult to explain to people who haven’t also been there or who aren’t formally qualified to fully understand.

      My heart goes out to Cyntoia and I wept bitterly when she was sentenced. The system is upside down and this goes way beyond Cyntoia and other juveniles tried unfairly as adults.

      How many young ladies like Cyntoia who are 18, 19, 20, 21 years old are in there through similar circumstances? This is not an isolated event. How many people generally are in that prison and other prisons who got there as a result of a mental illness – and aren’t receiving proper treatment? For how many will the justice system compound their illness before people finally wake up and develop a system where unwell people are referred to proper help and held in a non-punishment oriented environment for treatment and then reintegration into society when they are healed enough? If such a system was set in place eventually it would become preventative – providing a better start for future generations where there is a family history of mental illness.

      Don’t we have a social responsibility to do something about this rather than simply lobby to set an example by setting one mentally ill young lady free from an unfair sentence in a ridiculous system? Cyntoia’s story is a window to something huge.

      If you break your leg you go to hospital, get treatment and go home. If you commit a crime as a result of a mental illness you go to prison, often with access to little or no treatment.

      I believe that many of those people could contribute to society positively with the right help.
      (Of course people who are a danger to others must be kept from society until treatment is sufficient, and if successful)

      I feel that it is the political perception on a large scale that must change.

      With regard to Cyntoia – I will happily sign the petition if there is a structured and affordable treatment plan in place that is integrated with her family and that she has a strong support network.

      But this still does not in any way guarantee a positive outcome. It is however a real chance for her. This is much more complicated than just freeing an unfairly treated young lady.

      Regardless of my opinion on what should happen with Cyntoia – and I can’t form a full opinion as I don’t have enough information – I strongly feel that Cyntoia’s life has been terribly unfair and her situation is deeply sad.

      She is a valuable human being deserving of love, without a shadow of a doubt.

      But she needs help from professionals – I think we are all unqualified to say what should happen with Cyntoia. Perhaps it is the Psychiatric and Psychology associations and organisations that should be lobbying for fundamental systemic change – aren’t they doing that already? Perhaps we should be lobbying in that direction?

      You all have such strong options – so much so that you feel it appropriate to make character judgments of others who have a right to an option, like Tess for example. I think she was saying it is sad that Cyntoia’s best opportunity to access treatment is in prison as a result of her diagnosis, age, education and socio-economic background and of course because of the system? Sometimes compassion is not self reflective or soothing. That’s what I read into it anyway.

      But I don’t know Cyntoia or her family personally and I don’t know what help is available to her if she is released, so again I reserve any strong opinions on what should happen, suffice to say I intend to campaign politically on the cause of the situation at some stage in my career.

      How many of you are in or have been in a relationship with a diagnosed borderline sufferer? How many of you are qualified (and currently registered) as a clinical psychologist or psychiatrist?

      I think you all have a right to your opinions. You are all fellow human beings who have had varying life experiences which have shaped your opinions on this.

      I think it’s great that this is being discussed openly like this as these discussion need to happen more often and over a wider community.Our differences highlight the political complications in trying to develop workable solutions. Again, although this is a highly emotionally charged topic, I think we should refrain from judgments of character on this forum. Everyone has opinions of other people but when they are brought into a debate like this the discussion becomes side tracked away from what matters. Instead it would be great if we can all put more effort into discussing Cyntoia’s story and, in my opinion, the context in which it has all come about.

      That’s all from me, thanks for reading.

      • Herbin Flamez

        “Whilst I appreciate and respect your human rights intent, I think this should remain about the issues at hand and not about the individuals who hold specific opinions.”

        Great advise, sadly you failed to listen to your own… The moral of the story is these “Others” you speak of are putting themselves down” on the grounds of being immoral,, and our morality is merely highlighting their own insanity. Sadly, you hold one row and they hold the other in the boat of devaluing Earth’s women….

    • Herbin Flamez

      There is absolutely nothing to be afraid of…. Righteous Men outnumber these devils 10000 to 1 atleast. Bless.

  • Coreece

    young, misguided taken advantage of….she has my support 100%!

    • Cindylou

      Yes, she has your tax dollars. She has all of our support, whether or not we want to give it. Moronic, sociopathic little twats like this girl need a lot of “support.”

  • Nidhish Mehra

    Herbin. It is my understanding now that you are a Flower Children, isn’t it? Always smoking the charas and listen to Bob Marley. It is very nice to be the Flower Children but the brain thoughts of the Flower Children are suitable only and solely to the Goa beach, isn’t it? Not for the adult life of the reality. My friend. It is a certainty you are a kind and nice man. But it is truthly the craziness to want evil Cyntoia to be the freedom. She has the dark heart and will forever be the wrongdoer. Cyntoia must continue the jailbird life. She did the bad crime. The worst crime actually, isn’t it? To do the murdering of innocent Mr Johnny is a signal of her not suitable nature for the public and freedom society. Only for this I am insisting on the prison for Cyntoia. This world cannot be the functionality if only the Flower Children are making law and legals. Please be understand and singing my याचिका petition.

    http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/keep-the-murdering-prostitut?source=c.url&r_by=8802199

    • Herbin Flamez

      ” Karma moves in two directions. If we act virtuously, the seed we plant will result in happiness. If we act non-virtuously, suffering results. ” – Sakyong Mipham

      (with said, suffering shall be your result.)

      ” Still others commit all sorts of evil deeds, claiming karma doesn’t exist. They erroneously maintain that since everything is empty, committing evil isn’t wrong. Such persons fall into a hell of endless darkness with no hope of release. Those who are wise hold no such conception. ” – Bohidharma

      (with said a long hard fall into the hell of your mind will be endless and dark with no hope and no relief.

      ” The person who is basically evil by nature will always be averse to virtuous deeds. He is always engaged in bad karma. “- Sri Guru Granth Sahib

      (with said; you are romancing bad karma with your disposition, comments and immoral outlook)

      “Without the karma of good deeds, they are only destroying themselves.” – Sri Guru Granth Sahib

      (with said; you are in fact destroying yourself without even knowing it for with men like me; you have already lost this battle and against people like myself you are no competition in the grand scheme of life nor are you a threat in this war of good versus evil.)

      These are your people speaking about Karma….As you speak death and bad will toward another, so shall you reap for yourself and your offspring. You should listen and take heed. My previous points have been made to highlight and address this issue with regards to the subject matter in this documentary and the facts that I have written about people of your familiar background, character and culture have been clearly documented in history. It’s only natural for you to paint yourself a lost cause…..that is your nature, and you are not capable of being a friend of mine with a womanizing, pedophiliac mindset… Be mindful who you address behind the comfort of your Computer; you are only making yourself sound uneducated and immoral and for this the people who read you are responding. This war is against the principalities of darkness that control you, and you MR. INFIDEL, is a simple tool of evil….a controlled pawn of unrighteousness…..YOUR KARMA IS ON ITS WAY BACK TO YOU…. BE MINDFUL. From here forward you don’t exist and will no longer be acknowledged…..

      • Nidhish Mehra

        You are the mental problems. Go to the brain doctor, my black friend.

  • Ak

    Lay off the bath salts Asshole….we don’t understand wtf is your point, nor do we care…what we do know is clearly u support child molesters/predertors….and if I was Cyntoia’s mother or father, I would be in jail for blowing a child rapists f@#king head off, gladly too!…your bullshit comments is distracting Cyntoia’s Story…you don’t agree, you aired you views, you don’t agree with the petition…so join the peodophile page, or concentrate on your one signature petition, along with those who share your views and wait for our Creator to send lightening thunder and brimstone on your uncomprehendable, supporter of child abuse ass!

    • A Father

      Men like Nidhesh make me ashamed, I am a father and after watching the documentary, I can see that Cyntoia’s parents failed her miserably, I blame them, but this child choices at that time was made by a CHILD, we are suppose to be the guardians of our children, and to see grown men endorsing this kind of evil marks the times we live in, the system failed this young lady, and I hope she gets the chance to become a productive member of society, Nidhish Bob and Tess ,i too would spare it no thought to take you from this life if the likes of you were to prey on my children. One beast less, and Tris while I sympathise with your case, I believe your point is invalid to this case, I was unable to find a comparison with the two stories.

      • Tris

        They both have the same mental illness. Borderline Personality Disorder. That is the comparison.

        • Tris

          …and I think it is the way in which that aspect is being handled on a larger scale that is the key issue. I’m saying that I think it would be better to provide her with substantial psychiatric and psychological treatment that is government funded and that involves her family fully – instead of government funded prison which doesn’t really resolve anything for Cyntoia or anyone in a similar situation who is unwell as a result of such horrible childhood experiences.

          In my story I was trying to highlight the difficulties with trying to help someone who suffers with a mental illness like Borderline Personality Dissorder and that the way in which that illness is handled is of paramount importance in Cyntoia’s case. Based on what I and many others have experienced with BPD sufferers, I feel that it would be completely negligent to simply release Cyntoia without adequate treatment being considered a key component and requirement of any release plan.

          Yes, it is completely unfair on her and if this related to my daughter I would go after the guy – had he survived. I would want my child out of prison more than anything. But my kid won’t go through that as she hasn’t and won’t be exposed to anything like what Cyntoia has been exposed too.

          I had a relationship with someone who had been exposed to similar levels of suffering and shares the same diagnosis as Cyntoia.

          Unfortunately, as a result of the terrible experiences Cyntoia has had, she has been diagnosed with a severe illness. It would be like ignoring the presence of advanced lung cancer, except with the distinction that she can destroy other people if she doesn’t receive the love, care and above all treatment she needs. I think the world needs to go beyond “good” and “bad” and look at “mentally ill” and “well” – across the board. The further removed we are from our emotions and the less empathy we have for others I consider as a gauge for varying degrees of mental illness. From Antisocial Personality Disorder right through to mild anxiety; I think it all relates, at least to a substantial degree, to the degree of emotional connection (unless there are physiological issues).

          When I watched this documentary I saw so many likenesses to my ex partner – and other borderline sufferers I’ve researched since – it was uncanny. This is because the suffering shapes the individual until appropriate intervention takes place to unlock the effects of the suffering – buried deep within the subconscious mind – treatment that provides the coping skills required in order for the patient to experience the world in a completely different and more satisfying way.

          Her brain works in a different way to average people. This has to be taken into consideration. The diagnosis involves a pervasive pattern of behavior that cannot be broken by love. It’s too late now. She needs proper treatment and I feel that simply being “freed” is inadequate. I base my thoughts on clinical studies along with first hand experience with a borderline sufferer.

          It would be unfair on any personality disorder sufferer to expect them to just stop hurting themselves or others (referring to emotional component) because they have received some love. It would disregard the true essence of how difficult it is to survive with such a disorder and therefore completely de-validate that individual’s struggles. I wish it was simpler, but sadly it’s not.

          If treatment like that is unavailable and at least some treatment is available within the prison system, then it may be more complicated than it seems.

          I agree that prison is definitely not the place for any child, but with a mental illness like BPD and having been as unstable as she has been (remember she could have gone home but as she said she didn’t trust her foster mum with her issues) where else can she receive treatment that she won’t run away from as a result of her fear of rejection? You see the problem is that with her illness she can’t accept love – she can’t receive it. So I was questioning whether we should petition for her to be provided with adequate treatment for her illness – in contrast with her current situation where she has been punished for her actions which potentially reinforces her mistrust of the world.

          I can’t see how it could just work out if she goes home without any further consideration of her psychiatrists reflections. I feel that this and the general fabric of the system in relation to mental illness are the key issues here. In a nutshell I don’t think she should be in prison – but at the same time it would be unfair to ignore what is happening inside her head and what she really does need – free and adequate treatment that she is able to engage in without fear of rejection and that is tailored to her specific diagnosis.

          • bringmeredwine

            I agree with what you have written
            Sadly, men continue to rape little girls and get away with it, people keep making unwanted babies, and there is a critical shortage of psychiatric treatment facilities.
            This girl is a danger to others, for sure.
            Prison is not the place for her, but there’s no where else to put her.

      • Nidhish Mehra

        I have not interesting for having the sex with your daughter. She can be ugly or the fat one, isn’t it? Can I view a photo?

  • Herbin Flamez
  • Nidhish Mehra

    This debate is complete craziness. In mine country the sexing time is 18. I am agreeing with this age, actually. 18 is good and young but also can be big chests, isn’t it? America law is for sexing the girls of 16 years. Is it the truth thing??? 16??? America is the country for all पीडोफाइल paedophile, isn’t it? :) Maybe this is the truthly reason for angry words to me (Nidhish)? You are shame-feeling and disgusting self feelings because U.S.A has the legal child sexing? :) It is the AMERICAN LAW that is allowing the sexing of Cyntoia Brown. My upset is that this girl (legal sexing girl) did done a murdering action on Mr Johnny. Repeat. America law is ok and happy for sexing Cyntoia Brown. American law is not ok and not happy for Cyntoia to be the murder person.

    Please be understand and singing my याचिका petition.
    http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/keep-the-murdering-prostitut?source=c.url&r_by=8802199

  • Ak
  • bringmeredwine

    Why are people keeping loaded guns in their beds?

    • Nidhish Mehra

      It is America! Land of the free and home of the gun shooter पीडोफाइल paedophile! This is the amazing country of the world, isn’t it? Slum more worse than Mumbai. Moreपीडोफाइल paedophile than the Thailand certainly. Black criminal higher rate of Nigeria (also more black total number?). Low education and learning standard (cannot able to complete the basic mathematic problem and many more stupid than Cuba :) ). Also did I speak that 16 year sexing is law? Please Lakshmi…do not allow my going to this third country again. Send me to Pakistan! I am certain to be more happy with the dog sexual intercoursers! hahaha.
      http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/keep-the-murdering-prostitut?source=c.url&r_by=8802199

      • Herbin Flamez

        We speak on facts which don’t have to be defended…
        He speaks on generalizations and feels the need to defend himself and persuade himself that He is correct…..Little does He know He is actually furthering my cause and growing our signature base….

        A few factual things worth pointing out.

        Speaking of Slums…. your cousins in Hazaribagh are living the worse existence a human being can live on the face of the earth and you have the nerve to speak of slums in someone else’s country; While your praying to your god….Add this to your prayers to your idol… May your 12 armed demon send you to Hazaribagh to work in a leather tanning sweatshop all the rest of your numbered days to experience what a real slum feels like; maybe then will you learn.

        You are the epitomy of a hypocrite. It must be those toxic leather fumes that obviously have you have been sniffing to get high that has stolen your resolve and thought process so everything you say you (and you only given your signature on your own petition) believe in with your whole tainted heart. Speaking with no overstanding of how a debate works; in fact, there is no debate here when everyone has a point coming from truth and experience which doesn’t have to be defended…except you; who is constantly on the defensive with no real substantial intellectual weaponry. Thanks for the laughs though.

        Before YOU CONTINUE making an asshole, coward, whore-monger and pedophile lover of yourself; (which I would like to think your mother raised you better but obviously not) ….learn how to effectively communicate before talking about someone else’s math skills and making unsubstantiated generalizations of people with no evidence. Your generalizations only come back to harm you and nobody else. Obviously with your poor selection of words, you are the one who cant add or subtract the ways in which to correctly communicate with respect to getting a BASIC point across.

        Lastly, you have exposed your IP address on several occasions and if you are not careful moving forward, I will take further action using that information to silence you in this forum if you continue to spew your stupidity; The choice is yours. You have chosen the wrong topic to attach yourself to and the wrong organization to challenge. Although it may help you by tallying down all of my comments, (which I find hilarious and weak of you by the way) your use of a VPN will not assist you with keeping your personal information hidden. Thanks for the attention…..I truly appreciate it.

        Now back to the topic…..

        https://www.change.org/petitions/tennessee-state-attorney-general-department-of-justice-give-cyntoia-brown-a-new-trial

        • Nidhish Mehra

          Is it more easily for you to make the communication in Hindi? Crazy and rude black boy. Be the silent fellow or make the typing in Hindi. hahaha certainly you are not capability. In actuality your English is not fluent. Please do not be insulting me (Nidhish) typing the two language as you cannot able to type one :) You are truthly the mental defective brain boy, isn’t it? I am also suspicion of homosexual :)

          • HSIHDIN

            TRUE FAGGOT……. GAYS WOULD EVEN DESPISE YOU AS LESSER.

    • FYI

      Because thats when they come to get you.

  • Herbin Flamez
  • Nidhish Mehra

    Please for attention of documentaryheaven webmaster! Herbin Flamez was making threatenings my IP reveal. I (Nidhish) respectfully ask if Is possible for persona non grata for Herbin Flamez? His mental is not correct thinking, isn’t it? Please to inform me A.S.A.P. because tomorrow I am not wanting my sandwiches time at Paseo spoiling, isn’t it?

    • Ak

      punk ass bitch…you not scared to endorse sex with a child, but when a REAL MAN like Herbin Flamez exposes you and puts you in check you call the IP police….lmaooooo…a f#@king joke…lmaooooo….continue to hide behind your computer screen, clearly you cant make it in the real world…you safer behind your screen stalking kids and talking shit you cant back up…..i intended to not pay you no mind…but your cries for help was comical…if i learned anything about you via your comments is that CYNTOIA BROWN has extremely bigger balls than you….lol…#good laugh

      • Nidhish Mehra

        My friend, Ak. Please open your eyes. I (Nidhish) am talking of this movie of Cyntoia Brown and the dead / murdering of Mr Johnny, isn’t it? Is it not that I can speak my truth? Look this threatening “Lastly, you have exposed your IP address on several occasions and if you are not careful moving forward, I will take further action using that information to silence you in this forum if you continue to spew your stupidity; The choice is yours.” Is this the normal? Is U.S.A. not celebrity because for freedom speaking? 1) U.S.A. is the legal place to intercourse with 16 years old. 2) The freedom speaking is not true :) 3) Now it is certainty Ak and Herbin is same writer and/or lovers, isn’t it? :) Please be show photo of your kissings :)

        • HSIHDIN

          YOUR KILLING YOURSELF….LITERALLY. SUICIDE ONLINE…..CHARACTER ASSASSINATION SUICIDE. THERES A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GAY AND FAGGOT… AND YOU MY ENEMY ARE A FAGGOT INDEED.

  • Your Mum

    I believed everything that Cytonia said. She was such a sweet girl and so brutally honest. The police officers played on her innocence and fooled her during their interview. There is no way this girl is some evil being they try and portray her to be. She was just a kid with a bad situation. The people who did this to her should be on the other side of the bars. The man she killed was undoubtedly a creep and did not deserve to die but I believe Cytonia felt threatened enough to defend herself. The end result is bullshit!

  • Nidhish Mehra

    Thanks you webmaster. Now I am again feeling the safe feelings for surfing this website. It is indeed the awful things to be the attacked one in the internet, isn’t it?

    • al

      @nidhish-mehra you are an illiterate sick fuck. You need mental fucking help. You should be in jail instead of this child. I honestly do not think I have ever witnessed such sheer fucking stupidity in my life. Karma will come back to haunt you for all the fucked up shit you say You should not be allowed around people let alone a computer that has internet access. Do the world a favor and either get yourself some education or just shut the fuck up. It is people like you keep this world a horrible place. It is people like you that are the reason things portrayed in this documentary happen. How do you live with yourself honestly? How about before you even think about replying to this you go out and fucking learn to spell and communicate like a human being? It really must be exhausting being that fucking stupid.

      • HSIHDIN

        INDEED….. well said. DEAD HIM.

  • Cindylou

    Nauseating little twat. Great adoptive mother, so much money dumped on analyzing the lame brain of this sub-intelligent little murderess. It was actually boring to watch because, like most criminals, this girl is a total dumbass.

  • HSIHDIN

    https://www.change.org/petitions/tennessee-state-attorney-general-department-of-justice-give-cyntoia-brown-a-new-trial

    24000 AND COUNTING…..

    THAT EVIL BITCH NIDHISH CAN GO GAG ON A 16 INCH PORNO BLACK COCK THAT HE DREAMS ABOUT AND EAT SPERM FOR A LIVING….. DEAD HIM. CHECK MATE FOR THE GREATER GOOD YOU FUCKING BITCHES BITCH YOU….NIDHISH.