Cyntoia’s Story: The 16 Year Old Killer

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In 2004, Cyntoia Brown was arrested for the murder of a 43-year-old man. Cyntoia was a prostitute and he was her client.

Film-maker Daniel Birman was granted unique access to Cyntoia from the week of her arrest, throughout her trial and over a period of six years. His documentary explores the tragic events in her life that led up to the murder, and Cyntoia’s biological mother meets he daughter for the first time since giving her up for adoption 14 years earlier.

The film explores the history of abuse, violence, drugs and prostitution back through three generations. As Cyntoia faces a lifetime in prison, the programme asks difficult questions about her treatment by the American justice system.

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  • http://Google Jamie Edwards

    What a shame, she should NOT be in prison. I hope those hillbillys are happy they put an abused, misguided child in prison. I pray she gets her freedom.

    • Benny Diggs

      They put the wrong people in jail and let criminals run free. America

  • sam

    Couldn’t agree with you more Benny!

  • Holly

    This documentary broke my f**king heart…and made my blood boil. A grown man picks up a 16 year old CHILD for sex deserves to be shot. period.

    • Dave

      Age of consent in some countries is 12. Girls get their periods at 12….if you have a problem with girls being designed to reproduce at 12, take it up with god. I do not condone sex with minors, however it is a fact that 10,000+ years ago, our life expectancy was around 20-25, therefore most humans would have reproduced by12-14.

      • Herbin Flamez

        Yeah in some countries… We are not talking about or witnessing this as if it occurs in some countries. This is an American issue, in which at 15-16 years of age given mental health and abuse issues; life in prison is simply excessive. Adults who commit drug related murders get lighter sentences. If this was your daughter or a relative of your family, I HIGHLY doubt you would use the age of consent argument in that case. If you have a talking point, please make sure it can stand basic scrutiny before even posting it; otherwise it will be shot down as obsolete and outright idiotic as your argument/point clearly is.

      • Herbin Flamez

        To dave:

        your point has no relevance to Holly’s statement nor Cyntoia;s situation. Please come with an educated response or don’t come at all….

      • kat

        Dave, Dave, Dave. You are showing your lack of ability to understand things. 1) no girl at the age of 12 “wants” to give consent. Duress is not consent. It would have been nice if you would have named the other countries in your opinion. You want to compare but don’t list the names. Why is that? Could it be that you are just speculating or are these countries that have human rights issues? 2) Girls are not designed to reproduce at 12! It takes years for a girl to become a woman and a period is just the start of the process. That is why there are laws about having sex with minors. 3) If your opinion on life expectancy 10,000 years ago is a true fact, why didn’t you reference the material from which you gained that knowledge? You typed, “therefore most humans would have reproduced by 12-14.” When you use words like most and would have, that is speculation, not fact. Here’s a fact for you: reproduction is not what was intended in this incident.

        • Herbin Flamez

          Well stated Kat….

  • Herbin Flamez
  • Tricia

    such a sin, poor baby.The system has definitely failed here. I bawled my eyes out.

  • FERENC CSICSERI

    It’s very sad because all those charges what they put on this girl is so wrong I’ believe she should pay a prize what she did but all this could be avoided if we don’t have Man who seeks young and underage girls for sex he get what he deserve.and the same time like Casey Antony’s case how come the jury sais she is not guilty when we all know she murdered that child she come out not guilty and this girl who evidently self defense been condemned for life something is very wrong with our justice system I’am confused what the law protect the child molesters or the victims

  • Hugh Ford

    She got what she deserved all of you all that are crying “awe poor baby” are morons this “kid” has had an ongoing relationship with a dope dealer getting high. She was probably trying to rob this guy. I know shes full of shit. the dope dealer doent have to take a woman. they ride his jock because he has dope. her story falls apart at too many levels. shes in the right place.

    • [email protected]

      Even if that was the case; a 42 year old man soliciting sex from a minor deserves to be robbed.; by all means; He was robbing her of her body (by misguided consent for one) and further robbing her of her innocence. He lived his life before He took interest in soliciting sex with her at age 16. Nobody is saying that she doesn’t deserve to be punished for the crime; however, life in prison for a life that can be corrected is extreme is what we are saying; especially with a at risk youth who’s trailer trash mother uneducated mother abandonded her as a baby; with a history of mental disorders in her background which was proven by psycologists, leaving her to seek acceptance from evil elements at a childs age not truly knowing right from wrong because wrong appears to be right when there is no guidance in a childs life. That same drug dealer you speak of who would commit a drug related murder would get less that a life sentence so your point is not well exhibited. You ought to be ashamed of yourself for posting such a separatist comment which exhibits your support of a grown ass middle age man soliciting sex/prostitution from a child because that in essence is what you are saying. I pray that you don’t have a daughter/never have a daughter with that type of outlook….

    • Sway

      your comment as a whole tells me what kind of person you are. Obviously you are a pig!

  • [email protected]

    http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/free-cyntoia-brown

    If this was your daughter or a female in your family would you hesitate to sign?

  • Micah

    This makes me so sad. This is an intelligent, thoughtful woman, who had lived an unstable, sad life. Not one moment did I look at this girl and think “there is a sick, conscienceless person” instead I saw someone who was troubled. If you had been abused physically, sexually and verbally for 16 years of life – you might panic when a 42 year old man brings you home, shows you guns, grabs your legs violently then lays you down and reaches down the side of your bed. For her, people hurting her was a reality and what she did seemed to make the most sense to her. At such a young age when the brain is still developing would it not be better to deal with the psychological issues rather than institutionalizing them?

    • Herbin Flamez

      Well Said Micah………..

  • ORANGEMELLY

    I was sexually abused as a child and grew up in a dysfunctional family rife with mental illness..I am now 45 and have been diagnosed with personality disorder..I am screwed up and see a psychologist on a weekly basis..Given the opportunity I would shoot the men who abused me…I am serving a life sentence…As far as I am concerned this man had sex with a minor…he got what he deserved…. the same cannot be said for Cyntoia.

  • Herbinflamez

    http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/free-cyntoia-brown

    Sign if you have a heart.. Sign if you have a daughter. Sign if you were an at risk youth who was manipulated by adults as a child. Sign if you were mis-raised, mis-lead and mis-treated by adults as a teenager/child. Ladies….sign if all you wanted was to be accepted and didn’t know or wasn’t shown the dangers of following the wrong influences as a child/teenager. Sign if you are able to put yourself in the shoes of despair for a second and appreciate what you have which is your freedom. Sign if you wish to help someone other than yourself; this is a perfect opportunity to take a small action that could have a huge affect for someone you don’t know personally.

  • Sway

    “Acceptance and admiration, hell yeah” Smart girl. I’m a sex worker and i couldn’t have put it better myself. This girls is too smart to be rotting in a jail cell because of her circumstance.

  • Herbin Flamez

    Although it is appreciated that most are leaving comments in favor of Cyntoia; taking the time to express your anger about the situation; making the time to write paragraphs in expression of your stance and disagreement with the system. However, taking the extra smaller effort to actually sign the petition on the other hand is what is actually important. Your comments are all good, but to actually help her and make a change, why not sign the petition? It takes less time than it took for you to write a comment……Cyntoia does not have access to sites with video so she cannot read your comments….If you want to help her; sign the damn petition; if not; your comment in favor of her will go unrecognized……

    http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/free-cyntoia-brown

    • Sway

      signed!

  • Nidhish Mehra

    What a sorrowing story. However, in this instance it is right for Cyntoia to spend all the jailing times, isn’t it? One’s society cannot have its members going around doing the murders willy-nilly. My heart and sympathies go from my chest to the family of Mr Johnny. Their lives forever destroyed by this heartless prostitute.

    • Herbin Flamez

      @Nidhish mehra

      I suppose that coming from a region of the world that trains their young to champion child prostitution, then as men you are trained to foster the devaluation of the female and the rape and torture of your women and female children be in middle east or India, it is no suprise that “your heart and sympathies go from your chest to the family of Mr. Johnny”. It is shameful that more Indian and Middle Eastern Women are made to feel powerless and won’t stand up to protect themselves and kill off some of you cowardly hearted, abusive and weak minded “women with penises” in that part of the world… type of men who back down from altercation and disagreement from other men but lift your hand to your woman and beat her as if she is an animal, sell your daughters and wives into prostitution and you call Cyntoia heartless? (not saying all arab men nor all Indian men but we all know the culture in your part of the world.) This is America, where our women can and will only take so much punishment before the world causes them to loose mind and take life; like most anyone….because of what we as men and as a nation put them or allow them to go through. Our women are a reflection of us as men. We were placed on this earth first and then the woman as our help-mate…. This was a 15/16 year old girl who became heartless due to the very evil elements that your heart sympathizes with. Go figure…..and expected……from a male (not deserving to called a man) such as yourself.

      http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/free-cyntoia-brown

      • Nidhish Mehra

        What a wonderful country! Of course this is the IRONY. My friend. I have spent several unfortunate months in your country. Philadelphia, for exactness. It is a SLUM! Worse than any Mumbai or Delhi slum. You have the brain problems, I am sincerely sorry if I am the truthful speaker in your life today. Only a brain with absence accepts a man may be having the sex with prostitutes and agree maybe he will be the murdering victim!!! Prostitutes are for the good and happy times. Not the murder my friend.

        • Herbin Flamez

          Do you really think that refreshing your computer to tally down my statement is going to affect the truth in which I speak about your womanizing culture? A culture that has been documented time and time again throughout history which devalues your women? Do you think that humanity really cares where you are in your life mentally and physically, what you’re about and your stance toward women as a weak minded hypocrite that you are proving yourself to be here….. Facts are facts….as far as you being a truth speaker; now that is hilarious….your statement about prostitutes being there for the good times is in fact a statement from a man with a lack of being considered good by any means, and prostitution for you may be the only form of physical and sexual contact with a woman so to that I see your points… Your dillusion is par excellence and those reading your statements and witnessing your action here would realize it could perhaps be your up-bringing and culture; what an example you set in proving me correct and living up to the stereotype set against you based on the reputation of the men in your culture…..(As I said, I know good Arab and Indian brothers who cherish women as gold as do I), but you are clearly not one of them. I agree that perhaps the part of Philly that you could afford to stay in could be a slum….the best and most creative people on earth come from impoverished places and the fact that you were there was a detriment to the slum that you call unbearable and unfortunate. You however are no excuse…..starting a petition in which you are the only signature…an army of none…. then you troll around here as though you are creating a positive image of your people…Mental illness is your forte` evidently. I only respond to highlight your bullshit; not to entertain your lack of manhood and lack of righteous existence.

        • Tracee L. Shirley Ramirez

          Do you have sisters???? Just curious..

      • Herbin Flamez

        http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/14/world/asia/4-sentenced-to-death-in-rape-case-that-riveted-india.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

        http://documentaryheaven.com/bridal-slaves/

        http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/18850-trafficking-of-children-and-women-in-india

        Supportive Resources of my earlier claims…..

        If there are any other pedophiles and womanizers beast enough to step up and challenge me with some real knowledge and truth; feel free because your scumbag colleague “Nidhish Mehra” is clearly mis-representing your cause….

    • Herbin Flamez
  • Nidhish Mehra
    • Herbin Flamez

      Satans work………

    • Ak

      i could tell you what to do with your petition, but……

  • Ak

    @Nidhish
    New Delhi….the brutal rape of a young woman on a moving bus set off big protests across India and was covered widely around the world.the woman so brutally raped that her intestines were destroyed. This particular rape inspired so much outrage, when sexual violence is, sadly, so pervasive and commonplace there….pervasive and commonplace being key words to the likes of Mr Nidish, who seems to be a cheerleader for these type of actions…The rape may have drawn great public anguish because it came to symbolize the collected grievances of hundreds of millions of women in your part of the world and internationally ….women/young girls who suffer because of those of YOUR exsistance Nidhish, who promote anything close to abuse and advantage like in the case of Cyntoia Brown…you said and i quote “One’s society cannot have its members going around doing the murders willy-nilly”….well in a society like America and maybe to your surprise Nidhish outside of America….”Our society cannot have Old Ass Sick Men going around soliciting underage misguided girls for sex willy-nilly either”…for you to openly and clearly support this speaks volumes…wives are good for happy times Nidhish, not prostitutes…clearly you are unable to get one….so you ride first class on the pedophile train…..make sure and enjoy your ride to hell along with Mr Johnny and whom ever else supports you….Sick F@#k!

    • Vernet

      Truth!

  • Nidhish Mehra

    Too many angry words to me. I am sorry that you don’t understand the prostitute purpose.

  • Nidhish Mehra

    It has clearness that the angry fellows and myself (Nidhish) are conversing on the separate issue, isn’t it? For the clear factor let me be plainness. 1) The murder of ANY and ALL mans by the prostitutes has no acceptability in our modern and enlightened society. 2) Maybe it is not so enjoyable job for her because she is a little bit of the younger youth one, isn’t it? But it is indeed not the problem of Mr Johnny that she is younger and unhappy to be the prostitute, isn’t it? 3) I am sureness that her value is actually highest because of the being the younger one. So it is even more craziness to be murdering angry at a third party who is not indeed Mr Johnny in any instance when she can make the great salary, isn’t it?

  • Tess

    This is a very sad situation for all involved, especially Cyntoia. However, due to her horrible life experiences, this young girl’s mental illness will continue to deteriorate as she progresses through life. She will -due to the nature of her personality disorder- inevitably commit more, and possibly worse crime’s if she is freed from prison. Unfortunately, there is not currently a cure for her mental illness. She can only improve with ongoing psychiatric care- which she will receive in prison.

    Freeing Cyntoia is a compassionate option, in theory. However, once freed, where do you suppose that she goes? She will go back into the same environment that has already caused her so much suffering.

    The sad truth of this whole situation is that she is far safer in prison, where she can make healthy human attachments, receive psychiatric treatment and be well away from drugs and prostitution.

    I believe that many of you have missed the whole point of this documentary. It is not about whether she is guilty or innocent. It is that, due to her mental illness, this young girl is a danger to society as her illness progresses. And that there is no other option than prison or a psychiatric ward for people like Cyntoia. It is not her fault, but this is just the way that her life has gone. It is very very sad.

    • Nidhish Mehra

      A very intelligible and thinking answer, Tess. It is true that Cyntoia must forever be the jailbird. Murdering the people is not fine and ok, isn’t it? Thank you for you comment.

    • Herbin Flamez

      “Freeing Cyntoia is a compassionate option, in theory. However, once freed, where do you suppose that she goes? She will go back into the same environment that has already caused her so much suffering. ”

      To answer your question; if freed; she goes to a community with loving arms outstretched with forgiveness, vigilance and corrective love willing to give her the chance at a fair life. The whole idea that she’s “safer” in jail is total lunacy. Nobody has even stated that she does not deserve punishment for murder; but life is an excessive sentence. The human mind is much more resilient than you give even yourself credit for; assuming and realizing that you too are human… You’re last statement assuming that “she will go back into the same environment that has already caused her so much suffering” is static BS; the fact there is no insanity plea in the case if proof positive of this. She wasn’t convicted as an insane minor; She was put on trial as an adult and sentenced without conjunction or recognition that she was in fact “mentally ill”….This judge did not recognize this in her sentencing; therefore hold no validation in your stance…. Although proven to be; she WAS NOT TRIED AS SUCH; therefore your point is not withstanding according to the judgement of the court. If she was irrevocably “mentally ill”; she’d be in a psychiatric ward not in a prison cell for the rest of her life…. While cowardly men promoting prostitution (Nidhish) are allowed to roam freely and spew poisonous luciferian ideologies co-signing on the demise of women; and taking it personally when a child in Cyntoia’s shoes (and yes, 16 years old is not considered an adult in USA…18 is) and in this case a young lady who made a mistake; there are higher crimes committed by men that get less punishment. THIS IS THE POINT!!! Who are any of you to say that Cyntoia doesn’t deserve a second chance? God forbid your daughter makes a mistake such as this (if you are blessed to have a daughter); you will be quick to turncoat on your current stance without a shadow of a doubt.

      http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/free-cyntoia-brown

      • Nidhish Mehra

        Herbin Flamez I am suspecting you are also a black people? Is this the true things?

        http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/keep-the-murdering-prostitut?source=c.url&r_by=8802199

      • Tris

        Herbin and Vernet,

        Whilst I appreciate and respect your human rights intent, I think this should remain about the issues at hand and not about the individuals who hold specific opinions.

        I think it is unacceptable to put people down on the grounds of moral superiority because they hold an opinion that contradicts your own.

        People are all at varying stages of healing in the fabric of life. No one is going to just disappear or change on the spot because you want them to – no matter how forcefully you approach them.

        I hope you can see what I’m trying to say – it’s always difficult to convey a tone in text.

        I too believe that Cyntoia should not be in prison, however I am yet to learn of a more suitable alternative for her. I think If there was a suitable and affordable psychiatric facility for initial admission and assessment to develop a suitable treatment plan with ongoing outpatient – again affordable – psychiatric and psychological treatment then that would be a good option. Would she have access to that?

        I can confidently say that I have great knowledge and experience with regard to Borderline Personality Disorder – A debilitating, painful, destructive and highly complicated behavioral disorder. BPD is debilitating and painful for the sufferer and is very destructive for the loved ones of the sufferer – and the treatment is complicated and difficult to access (due to cost and also a part of the disorder being a pervasive fear of commitment to treatment by the sufferer)

        A bit about my story, to give context…

        When I looked into my partner’s eyes before we separated I saw the deepest sadness I have ever seen. Words cannot describe what I saw. I felt I was seeing living hell in it’s rawest form. I am shaped into a different man from that experience. I am now a 28 yo single father to our beautiful 2 year old daughter. Although my ex partner didn’t understand why it was happening at the time we separated, she does understand now.

        Having been admitted to a psychiatric hospital, receiving a harrowing diagnosis of BPD, starting a new relationship whilst still in hospital, having 3 abortions over the following 6 months and going through successive unstable relationships as an ongoing saga – she now understands and has accepted through the limited counselling she actually attended – that she crushed me, my family and would have destroyed our child emotionally had that separation not have occurred. I didn’t leave her – I focused my attention on our child. She created the separation as she perceived rejection by me, although this was never my intent.

        Despite her knowledge of her illness she is still a risk to our child and refuses to see our little one (despite me going through everything possible to try to make things work after she was diagnosed). This is because she is aware of how destructive she is to anyone who loves her. It is also because she knows that she will not cope with two things – 1, the separation after visiting me and our daughter (as in her entire life with completely fall apart and she will likely be suicidal – this is because she relives the suffering of childhood separations every time she perceives a rejection event) and 2, that our child doesn’t know her very well (it’s been 14 months) and will not give her the gratification she needs to fill her empty soul and is therefore unable to temporarily fill her empty inner void where self-love would otherwise be present. I can’t describe the suffering I’ve been through over this and how much I wish she could just be with us and how much I wish my love was enough.

        I have found some peace, however I remain uninterested in dating. I will eventually fully move on but a part of me will remain with her forever. I don’t think I will ever get that back.

        Her mother abandoned her when she was 2 and left her with an abusive father.

        Her disorder matured as she entered her 20’s and, despite some hit and miss treatment, is still worsening. Not having her daughter was still not enough for her to commit to treatment. She was offered all the love in the world and yet, through the shear force and pervasive nature of her terrible illness, she created destruction all around her with manipulation, emotional blackmail and terrible lies. Those were survival mechanisms she learned as a child to get love from anyone she could – to fill the black void her mother’s rejection and her father’s abuse left behind.

        From what I understand; through committed treatment and formal intervention – often at great expense – some people can overcome the worst of this illness to lead a less painful life. Usually they must endure and cause ongoing suffering until they either take their own life or commit to meaningful change. And even under ideal circumstances change is extremely slow and bumpy – and usually only lasts until a stressful life event throws the sufferer back to where they started, or at least seriously sets them back. Yes it is usually a bleak outlook – but not always.

        Every BPD sufferer is different and the symptoms can present slightly differently – it’s a set of criteria and describes a set of psychiatric symptoms. But BPD sufferers all share one thing in common – they have been diagnosed with a serious psychiatric illness that requires specialist treatment. Unfortunately most sufferers are free to continue with destructive relationships – and they either choose empathetic and loving people whose lives they turn upside down or seriously abusive people who damage them further (like Cyntoia). Often terrible outcomes can result for the partner, including depression and suicide. The partner’s family often takes a tumble too as they watch their family member being destroyed and no matter how much they try to warn that person of the cause of the problems, the BPD sufferer is so manipulative it is no use.

        I am referring to overwhelming instances I have come across which are so similar to my situation and I am not solely reflecting what happened to me.

        I was fortunate in that I took myself to a psychologist and identified what was happening before it was too late. She had me thinking there was something “wrong” with me. My psychologist dispelled that concern over time and helped me identify how it all came about. I am now studying psychology and my daughter has a healthy and secure attachment and is developing very well. Most are not so fortunate.

        When I am qualified I will be a drop in the ocean of people trying to help people like Cyntoia, along with others who are suffering to varying degrees, but I hope I can make a small difference. It could be a bigger difference but for the systems and political attitudes currently in place.

        In my opinion, with regard to this thread and the documentary to which it relates, the entire system needs to change.

        My ex partner will probably have more children and continue having unstable and destructive interpersonal relationships. As sad as it is I believe she would find greater peace in a secure environment where things remain stable, predictable and simple. If only governments would wake up and provide the in-patient and out-patient care needed for all people who suffer with a mental illness, but especially for people with a complicated illness like Cyntoia. It would likely become more financially viable than the overwhelming burden of welfare and incarceration costs which are currently used as painkillers, for what is to a certain extent a curable problem.

        Cyntoia may be young enough for some positive outcomes – but I think from what I have experienced in my situation and from what I understood of the documentary, the environment for this to happen is currently unavailable.

        Unconditional love and an open arms approach I believe will be noneffective on its own (although may be beneficial in combination with substantial formal treatment). This is a seriously hurt young person who I feel needs consistent formal psychiatric and psychological intervention over a number of years – and that is if she is able to commit to it, which is extremely difficult for a BPD sufferer (because they can’t get close enough to the therapist as they fear rejection and run away).

        This is also why she struggles to trust her constantly loving foster mother. She will likely act in accordance with her lack of trust, despite her acknowledgement that she should have opened up to her, and create instability. Believe me I have seen this all unfold in my own situation and it is so difficult to explain to people who haven’t also been there or who aren’t formally qualified to fully understand.

        My heart goes out to Cyntoia and I wept bitterly when she was sentenced. The system is upside down and this goes way beyond Cyntoia and other juveniles tried unfairly as adults.

        How many young ladies like Cyntoia who are 18, 19, 20, 21 years old are in there through similar circumstances? This is not an isolated event. How many people generally are in that prison and other prisons who got there as a result of a mental illness – and aren’t receiving proper treatment? For how many will the justice system compound their illness before people finally wake up and develop a system where unwell people are referred to proper help and held in a non-punishment oriented environment for treatment and then reintegration into society when they are healed enough? If such a system was set in place eventually it would become preventative – providing a better start for future generations where there is a family history of mental illness.

        Don’t we have a social responsibility to do something about this rather than simply lobby to set an example by setting one mentally ill young lady free from an unfair sentence in a ridiculous system? Cyntoia’s story is a window to something huge.

        If you break your leg you go to hospital, get treatment and go home. If you commit a crime as a result of a mental illness you go to prison, often with access to little or no treatment.

        I believe that many of those people could contribute to society positively with the right help.
        (Of course people who are a danger to others must be kept from society until treatment is sufficient, and if successful)

        I feel that it is the political perception on a large scale that must change.

        With regard to Cyntoia – I will happily sign the petition if there is a structured and affordable treatment plan in place that is integrated with her family and that she has a strong support network.

        But this still does not in any way guarantee a positive outcome. It is however a real chance for her. This is much more complicated than just freeing an unfairly treated young lady.

        Regardless of my opinion on what should happen with Cyntoia – and I can’t form a full opinion as I don’t have enough information – I strongly feel that Cyntoia’s life has been terribly unfair and her situation is deeply sad.

        She is a valuable human being deserving of love, without a shadow of a doubt.

        But she needs help from professionals – I think we are all unqualified to say what should happen with Cyntoia. Perhaps it is the Psychiatric and Psychology associations and organisations that should be lobbying for fundamental systemic change – aren’t they doing that already? Perhaps we should be lobbying in that direction?

        You all have such strong options – so much so that you feel it appropriate to make character judgments of others who have a right to an option, like Tess for example. I think she was saying it is sad that Cyntoia’s best opportunity to access treatment is in prison as a result of her diagnosis, age, education and socio-economic background and of course because of the system? Sometimes compassion is not self reflective or soothing. That’s what I read into it anyway.

        But I don’t know Cyntoia or her family personally and I don’t know what help is available to her if she is released, so again I reserve any strong opinions on what should happen, suffice to say I intend to campaign politically on the cause of the situation at some stage in my career.

        How many of you are in or have been in a relationship with a diagnosed borderline sufferer? How many of you are qualified (and currently registered) as a clinical psychologist or psychiatrist?

        I think you all have a right to your opinions. You are all fellow human beings who have had varying life experiences which have shaped your opinions on this.

        I think it’s great that this is being discussed openly like this as these discussion need to happen more often and over a wider community.Our differences highlight the political complications in trying to develop workable solutions. Again, although this is a highly emotionally charged topic, I think we should refrain from judgments of character on this forum. Everyone has opinions of other people but when they are brought into a debate like this the discussion becomes side tracked away from what matters. Instead it would be great if we can all put more effort into discussing Cyntoia’s story and, in my opinion, the context in which it has all come about.

        That’s all from me, thanks for reading.

    • bringmeredwine

      I agree with most of what you said, however, I doubt she’ll be able to form good attachments in prison, and that she’ll actually receive any psychiatric help. Other prisoners should be wary of her and what she’s capable of.
      She’s definitely in the wrong place.
      But that’s just my opinion!

  • Shar

    Would it be different if she killed a black man? I think so.
    “Social justice system.” What a pile of shit.

  • Nidhish Mehra

    I am sure Tess is a very good mummy and so no the daughter of Tess would to be the future prostitute, isn’t it?

    Only bad family life can make this variety of beastly girl. Society does not need Cyntoia or her same. The best indeed sole good result of this story is now she cannot make the breeding and perpetuating of this bad things.

    http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/keep-the-murdering-prostitut?source=c.url&r_by=8802199

    • Ak

      …with a mental like yours…i shutter to think what you can pass on to your child/children via “breeding” as you call it…that is if you are blessed with that capability and honor….and i shutter more at the thought of you owning a d#%k……you said that you are sure that her value is high because she is young, hence she can make a great salary…..and you call Cyntoia a beast/beastly???…..the words you type alone spew demonic possession…buy a mirror Nidhish….then look into it.

  • Bob Thomas

    You guys are fuckin crazy! Bitch shot the dude point blank for no reason. Fry the bitch.

    • Herbin Flamez

      As you wish upon others; so shall you reep…….and if this was your daughter; I would defend her on the behalf of all real men and put the torch and gasoline to her father for letting her down. Now go back to the pit of hell in which you came.

  • Vernet

    am afraid for our daughters because of men like Bob, Nidhish and sad to say even Tess.

    • Tris

      Herbin and Vernet,

      Whilst I appreciate and respect your human rights intent, I think this should remain about the issues at hand and not about the individuals who hold specific opinions.

      I think it is unacceptable to put people down on the grounds of moral superiority because they hold an opinion that contradicts your own.

      People are all at varying stages of healing in the fabric of life. No one is going to just disappear or change on the spot because you want them to – no matter how forcefully you approach them.

      I hope you can see what I’m trying to say – it’s always difficult to convey a tone in text.

      I too believe that Cyntoia should not be in prison, however I am yet to learn of a more suitable alternative for her. I think If there was a suitable and affordable psychiatric facility for initial admission and assessment to develop a suitable treatment plan with ongoing outpatient – again affordable – psychiatric and psychological treatment then that would be a good option. Would she have access to that?

      I can confidently say that I have great knowledge and experience with regard to Borderline Personality Disorder – A debilitating, painful, destructive and highly complicated behavioral disorder. BPD is debilitating and painful for the sufferer and is very destructive for the loved ones of the sufferer – and the treatment is complicated and difficult to access (due to cost and also a part of the disorder being a pervasive fear of commitment to treatment by the sufferer)

      A bit about my story, to give context…

      When I looked into my partner’s eyes before we separated I saw the deepest sadness I have ever seen. Words cannot describe what I saw. I felt I was seeing living hell in it’s rawest form. I am shaped into a different man from that experience. I am now a 28 yo single father to our beautiful 2 year old daughter. Although my ex partner didn’t understand why it was happening at the time we separated, she does understand now.

      Having been admitted to a psychiatric hospital, receiving a harrowing diagnosis of BPD, starting a new relationship whilst still in hospital, having 3 abortions over the following 6 months and going through successive unstable relationships as an ongoing saga – she now understands and has accepted through the limited counselling she actually attended – that she crushed me, my family and would have destroyed our child emotionally had that separation not have occurred. I didn’t leave her – I focused my attention on our child. She created the separation as she perceived rejection by me, although this was never my intent.

      Despite her knowledge of her illness she is still a risk to our child and refuses to see our little one (despite me going through everything possible to try to make things work after she was diagnosed). This is because she is aware of how destructive she is to anyone who loves her. It is also because she knows that she will not cope with two things – 1, the separation after visiting me and our daughter (as in her entire life with completely fall apart and she will likely be suicidal – this is because she relives the suffering of childhood separations every time she perceives a rejection event) and 2, that our child doesn’t know her very well (it’s been 14 months) and will not give her the gratification she needs to fill her empty soul and is therefore unable to temporarily fill her empty inner void where self-love would otherwise be present. I can’t describe the suffering I’ve been through over this and how much I wish she could just be with us and how much I wish my love was enough.

      I have found some peace, however I remain uninterested in dating. I will eventually fully move on but a part of me will remain with her forever. I don’t think I will ever get that back.

      Her mother abandoned her when she was 2 and left her with an abusive father.

      Her disorder matured as she entered her 20′s and, despite some hit and miss treatment, is still worsening. Not having her daughter was still not enough for her to commit to treatment. She was offered all the love in the world and yet, through the shear force and pervasive nature of her terrible illness, she created destruction all around her with manipulation, emotional blackmail and terrible lies. Those were survival mechanisms she learned as a child to get love from anyone she could – to fill the black void her mother’s rejection and her father’s abuse left behind.

      From what I understand; through committed treatment and formal intervention – often at great expense – some people can overcome the worst of this illness to lead a less painful life. Usually they must endure and cause ongoing suffering until they either take their own life or commit to meaningful change. And even under ideal circumstances change is extremely slow and bumpy – and usually only lasts until a stressful life event throws the sufferer back to where they started, or at least seriously sets them back. Yes it is usually a bleak outlook – but not always.

      Every BPD sufferer is different and the symptoms can present slightly differently – it’s a set of criteria and describes a set of psychiatric symptoms. But BPD sufferers all share one thing in common – they have been diagnosed with a serious psychiatric illness that requires specialist treatment. Unfortunately most sufferers are free to continue with destructive relationships – and they either choose empathetic and loving people whose lives they turn upside down or seriously abusive people who damage them further (like Cyntoia). Often terrible outcomes can result for the partner, including depression and suicide. The partner’s family often takes a tumble too as they watch their family member being destroyed and no matter how much they try to warn that person of the cause of the problems, the BPD sufferer is so manipulative it is no use.

      I am referring to overwhelming instances I have come across which are so similar to my situation and I am not solely reflecting what happened to me.

      I was fortunate in that I took myself to a psychologist and identified what was happening before it was too late. She had me thinking there was something “wrong” with me. My psychologist dispelled that concern over time and helped me identify how it all came about. I am now studying psychology and my daughter has a healthy and secure attachment and is developing very well. Most are not so fortunate.

      When I am qualified I will be a drop in the ocean of people trying to help people like Cyntoia, along with others who are suffering to varying degrees, but I hope I can make a small difference. It could be a bigger difference but for the systems and political attitudes currently in place.

      In my opinion, with regard to this thread and the documentary to which it relates, the entire system needs to change.

      My ex partner will probably have more children and continue having unstable and destructive interpersonal relationships. As sad as it is I believe she would find greater peace in a secure environment where things remain stable, predictable and simple. If only governments would wake up and provide the in-patient and out-patient care needed for all people who suffer with a mental illness, but especially for people with a complicated illness like Cyntoia. It would likely become more financially viable than the overwhelming burden of welfare and incarceration costs which are currently used as painkillers, for what is to a certain extent a curable problem.

      Cyntoia may be young enough for some positive outcomes – but I think from what I have experienced in my situation and from what I understood of the documentary, the environment for this to happen is currently unavailable.

      Unconditional love and an open arms approach I believe will be noneffective on its own (although may be beneficial in combination with substantial formal treatment). This is a seriously hurt young person who I feel needs consistent formal psychiatric and psychological intervention over a number of years – and that is if she is able to commit to it, which is extremely difficult for a BPD sufferer (because they can’t get close enough to the therapist as they fear rejection and run away).

      This is also why she struggles to trust her constantly loving foster mother. She will likely act in accordance with her lack of trust, despite her acknowledgement that she should have opened up to her, and create instability. Believe me I have seen this all unfold in my own situation and it is so difficult to explain to people who haven’t also been there or who aren’t formally qualified to fully understand.

      My heart goes out to Cyntoia and I wept bitterly when she was sentenced. The system is upside down and this goes way beyond Cyntoia and other juveniles tried unfairly as adults.

      How many young ladies like Cyntoia who are 18, 19, 20, 21 years old are in there through similar circumstances? This is not an isolated event. How many people generally are in that prison and other prisons who got there as a result of a mental illness – and aren’t receiving proper treatment? For how many will the justice system compound their illness before people finally wake up and develop a system where unwell people are referred to proper help and held in a non-punishment oriented environment for treatment and then reintegration into society when they are healed enough? If such a system was set in place eventually it would become preventative – providing a better start for future generations where there is a family history of mental illness.

      Don’t we have a social responsibility to do something about this rather than simply lobby to set an example by setting one mentally ill young lady free from an unfair sentence in a ridiculous system? Cyntoia’s story is a window to something huge.

      If you break your leg you go to hospital, get treatment and go home. If you commit a crime as a result of a mental illness you go to prison, often with access to little or no treatment.

      I believe that many of those people could contribute to society positively with the right help.
      (Of course people who are a danger to others must be kept from society until treatment is sufficient, and if successful)

      I feel that it is the political perception on a large scale that must change.

      With regard to Cyntoia – I will happily sign the petition if there is a structured and affordable treatment plan in place that is integrated with her family and that she has a strong support network.

      But this still does not in any way guarantee a positive outcome. It is however a real chance for her. This is much more complicated than just freeing an unfairly treated young lady.

      Regardless of my opinion on what should happen with Cyntoia – and I can’t form a full opinion as I don’t have enough information – I strongly feel that Cyntoia’s life has been terribly unfair and her situation is deeply sad.

      She is a valuable human being deserving of love, without a shadow of a doubt.

      But she needs help from professionals – I think we are all unqualified to say what should happen with Cyntoia. Perhaps it is the Psychiatric and Psychology associations and organisations that should be lobbying for fundamental systemic change – aren’t they doing that already? Perhaps we should be lobbying in that direction?

      You all have such strong options – so much so that you feel it appropriate to make character judgments of others who have a right to an option, like Tess for example. I think she was saying it is sad that Cyntoia’s best opportunity to access treatment is in prison as a result of her diagnosis, age, education and socio-economic background and of course because of the system? Sometimes compassion is not self reflective or soothing. That’s what I read into it anyway.

      But I don’t know Cyntoia or her family personally and I don’t know what help is available to her if she is released, so again I reserve any strong opinions on what should happen, suffice to say I intend to campaign politically on the cause of the situation at some stage in my career.

      How many of you are in or have been in a relationship with a diagnosed borderline sufferer? How many of you are qualified (and currently registered) as a clinical psychologist or psychiatrist?

      I think you all have a right to your opinions. You are all fellow human beings who have had varying life experiences which have shaped your opinions on this.

      I think it’s great that this is being discussed openly like this as these discussion need to happen more often and over a wider community.Our differences highlight the political complications in trying to develop workable solutions. Again, although this is a highly emotionally charged topic, I think we should refrain from judgments of character on this forum. Everyone has opinions of other people but when they are brought into a debate like this the discussion becomes side tracked away from what matters. Instead it would be great if we can all put more effort into discussing Cyntoia’s story and, in my opinion, the context in which it has all come about.

      That’s all from me, thanks for reading.

      • Herbin Flamez

        “Whilst I appreciate and respect your human rights intent, I think this should remain about the issues at hand and not about the individuals who hold specific opinions.”

        Great advise, sadly you failed to listen to your own… The moral of the story is these “Others” you speak of are putting themselves down” on the grounds of being immoral,, and our morality is merely highlighting their own insanity. Sadly, you hold one row and they hold the other in the boat of devaluing Earth’s women….

    • Herbin Flamez

      There is absolutely nothing to be afraid of…. Righteous Men outnumber these devils 10000 to 1 atleast. Bless.

  • Coreece

    young, misguided taken advantage of….she has my support 100%!

    • Cindylou

      Yes, she has your tax dollars. She has all of our support, whether or not we want to give it. Moronic, sociopathic little twats like this girl need a lot of “support.”

  • Nidhish Mehra

    Herbin. It is my understanding now that you are a Flower Children, isn’t it? Always smoking the charas and listen to Bob Marley. It is very nice to be the Flower Children but the brain thoughts of the Flower Children are suitable only and solely to the Goa beach, isn’t it? Not for the adult life of the reality. My friend. It is a certainty you are a kind and nice man. But it is truthly the craziness to want evil Cyntoia to be the freedom. She has the dark heart and will forever be the wrongdoer. Cyntoia must continue the jailbird life. She did the bad crime. The worst crime actually, isn’t it? To do the murdering of innocent Mr Johnny is a signal of her not suitable nature for the public and freedom society. Only for this I am insisting on the prison for Cyntoia. This world cannot be the functionality if only the Flower Children are making law and legals. Please be understand and singing my याचिका petition.

    http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/keep-the-murdering-prostitut?source=c.url&r_by=8802199

    • Herbin Flamez

      ” Karma moves in two directions. If we act virtuously, the seed we plant will result in happiness. If we act non-virtuously, suffering results. ” – Sakyong Mipham

      (with said, suffering shall be your result.)

      ” Still others commit all sorts of evil deeds, claiming karma doesn’t exist. They erroneously maintain that since everything is empty, committing evil isn’t wrong. Such persons fall into a hell of endless darkness with no hope of release. Those who are wise hold no such conception. ” – Bohidharma

      (with said a long hard fall into the hell of your mind will be endless and dark with no hope and no relief.

      ” The person who is basically evil by nature will always be averse to virtuous deeds. He is always engaged in bad karma. “- Sri Guru Granth Sahib

      (with said; you are romancing bad karma with your disposition, comments and immoral outlook)

      “Without the karma of good deeds, they are only destroying themselves.” – Sri Guru Granth Sahib

      (with said; you are in fact destroying yourself without even knowing it for with men like me; you have already lost this battle and against people like myself you are no competition in the grand scheme of life nor are you a threat in this war of good versus evil.)

      These are your people speaking about Karma….As you speak death and bad will toward another, so shall you reap for yourself and your offspring. You should listen and take heed. My previous points have been made to highlight and address this issue with regards to the subject matter in this documentary and the facts that I have written about people of your familiar background, character and culture have been clearly documented in history. It’s only natural for you to paint yourself a lost cause…..that is your nature, and you are not capable of being a friend of mine with a womanizing, pedophiliac mindset… Be mindful who you address behind the comfort of your Computer; you are only making yourself sound uneducated and immoral and for this the people who read you are responding. This war is against the principalities of darkness that control you, and you MR. INFIDEL, is a simple tool of evil….a controlled pawn of unrighteousness…..YOUR KARMA IS ON ITS WAY BACK TO YOU…. BE MINDFUL. From here forward you don’t exist and will no longer be acknowledged…..

      • Nidhish Mehra

        You are the mental problems. Go to the brain doctor, my black friend.

  • Ak

    Lay off the bath salts Asshole….we don’t understand wtf is your point, nor do we care…what we do know is clearly u support child molesters/predertors….and if I was Cyntoia’s mother or father, I would be in jail for blowing a child rapists f@#king head off, gladly too!…your bullshit comments is distracting Cyntoia’s Story…you don’t agree, you aired you views, you don’t agree with the petition…so join the peodophile page, or concentrate on your one signature petition, along with those who share your views and wait for our Creator to send lightening thunder and brimstone on your uncomprehendable, supporter of child abuse ass!

    • A Father

      Men like Nidhesh make me ashamed, I am a father and after watching the documentary, I can see that Cyntoia’s parents failed her miserably, I blame them, but this child choices at that time was made by a CHILD, we are suppose to be the guardians of our children, and to see grown men endorsing this kind of evil marks the times we live in, the system failed this young lady, and I hope she gets the chance to become a productive member of society, Nidhish Bob and Tess ,i too would spare it no thought to take you from this life if the likes of you were to prey on my children. One beast less, and Tris while I sympathise with your case, I believe your point is invalid to this case, I was unable to find a comparison with the two stories.

      • Tris

        They both have the same mental illness. Borderline Personality Disorder. That is the comparison.

        • Tris

          …and I think it is the way in which that aspect is being handled on a larger scale that is the key issue. I’m saying that I think it would be better to provide her with substantial psychiatric and psychological treatment that is government funded and that involves her family fully – instead of government funded prison which doesn’t really resolve anything for Cyntoia or anyone in a similar situation who is unwell as a result of such horrible childhood experiences.

          In my story I was trying to highlight the difficulties with trying to help someone who suffers with a mental illness like Borderline Personality Dissorder and that the way in which that illness is handled is of paramount importance in Cyntoia’s case. Based on what I and many others have experienced with BPD sufferers, I feel that it would be completely negligent to simply release Cyntoia without adequate treatment being considered a key component and requirement of any release plan.

          Yes, it is completely unfair on her and if this related to my daughter I would go after the guy – had he survived. I would want my child out of prison more than anything. But my kid won’t go through that as she hasn’t and won’t be exposed to anything like what Cyntoia has been exposed too.

          I had a relationship with someone who had been exposed to similar levels of suffering and shares the same diagnosis as Cyntoia.

          Unfortunately, as a result of the terrible experiences Cyntoia has had, she has been diagnosed with a severe illness. It would be like ignoring the presence of advanced lung cancer, except with the distinction that she can destroy other people if she doesn’t receive the love, care and above all treatment she needs. I think the world needs to go beyond “good” and “bad” and look at “mentally ill” and “well” – across the board. The further removed we are from our emotions and the less empathy we have for others I consider as a gauge for varying degrees of mental illness. From Antisocial Personality Disorder right through to mild anxiety; I think it all relates, at least to a substantial degree, to the degree of emotional connection (unless there are physiological issues).

          When I watched this documentary I saw so many likenesses to my ex partner – and other borderline sufferers I’ve researched since – it was uncanny. This is because the suffering shapes the individual until appropriate intervention takes place to unlock the effects of the suffering – buried deep within the subconscious mind – treatment that provides the coping skills required in order for the patient to experience the world in a completely different and more satisfying way.

          Her brain works in a different way to average people. This has to be taken into consideration. The diagnosis involves a pervasive pattern of behavior that cannot be broken by love. It’s too late now. She needs proper treatment and I feel that simply being “freed” is inadequate. I base my thoughts on clinical studies along with first hand experience with a borderline sufferer.

          It would be unfair on any personality disorder sufferer to expect them to just stop hurting themselves or others (referring to emotional component) because they have received some love. It would disregard the true essence of how difficult it is to survive with such a disorder and therefore completely de-validate that individual’s struggles. I wish it was simpler, but sadly it’s not.

          If treatment like that is unavailable and at least some treatment is available within the prison system, then it may be more complicated than it seems.

          I agree that prison is definitely not the place for any child, but with a mental illness like BPD and having been as unstable as she has been (remember she could have gone home but as she said she didn’t trust her foster mum with her issues) where else can she receive treatment that she won’t run away from as a result of her fear of rejection? You see the problem is that with her illness she can’t accept love – she can’t receive it. So I was questioning whether we should petition for her to be provided with adequate treatment for her illness – in contrast with her current situation where she has been punished for her actions which potentially reinforces her mistrust of the world.

          I can’t see how it could just work out if she goes home without any further consideration of her psychiatrists reflections. I feel that this and the general fabric of the system in relation to mental illness are the key issues here. In a nutshell I don’t think she should be in prison – but at the same time it would be unfair to ignore what is happening inside her head and what she really does need – free and adequate treatment that she is able to engage in without fear of rejection and that is tailored to her specific diagnosis.

          • bringmeredwine

            I agree with what you have written
            Sadly, men continue to rape little girls and get away with it, people keep making unwanted babies, and there is a critical shortage of psychiatric treatment facilities.
            This girl is a danger to others, for sure.
            Prison is not the place for her, but there’s no where else to put her.

      • Nidhish Mehra

        I have not interesting for having the sex with your daughter. She can be ugly or the fat one, isn’t it? Can I view a photo?

  • Herbin Flamez
  • Nidhish Mehra

    This debate is complete craziness. In mine country the sexing time is 18. I am agreeing with this age, actually. 18 is good and young but also can be big chests, isn’t it? America law is for sexing the girls of 16 years. Is it the truth thing??? 16??? America is the country for all पीडोफाइल paedophile, isn’t it? :) Maybe this is the truthly reason for angry words to me (Nidhish)? You are shame-feeling and disgusting self feelings because U.S.A has the legal child sexing? :) It is the AMERICAN LAW that is allowing the sexing of Cyntoia Brown. My upset is that this girl (legal sexing girl) did done a murdering action on Mr Johnny. Repeat. America law is ok and happy for sexing Cyntoia Brown. American law is not ok and not happy for Cyntoia to be the murder person.

    Please be understand and singing my याचिका petition.
    http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/keep-the-murdering-prostitut?source=c.url&r_by=8802199

  • Ak
  • bringmeredwine

    Why are people keeping loaded guns in their beds?

    • Nidhish Mehra

      It is America! Land of the free and home of the gun shooter पीडोफाइल paedophile! This is the amazing country of the world, isn’t it? Slum more worse than Mumbai. Moreपीडोफाइल paedophile than the Thailand certainly. Black criminal higher rate of Nigeria (also more black total number?). Low education and learning standard (cannot able to complete the basic mathematic problem and many more stupid than Cuba :) ). Also did I speak that 16 year sexing is law? Please Lakshmi…do not allow my going to this third country again. Send me to Pakistan! I am certain to be more happy with the dog sexual intercoursers! hahaha.
      http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/keep-the-murdering-prostitut?source=c.url&r_by=8802199

      • Herbin Flamez

        We speak on facts which don’t have to be defended…
        He speaks on generalizations and feels the need to defend himself and persuade himself that He is correct…..Little does He know He is actually furthering my cause and growing our signature base….

        A few factual things worth pointing out.

        Speaking of Slums…. your cousins in Hazaribagh are living the worse existence a human being can live on the face of the earth and you have the nerve to speak of slums in someone else’s country; While your praying to your god….Add this to your prayers to your idol… May your 12 armed demon send you to Hazaribagh to work in a leather tanning sweatshop all the rest of your numbered days to experience what a real slum feels like; maybe then will you learn.

        You are the epitomy of a hypocrite. It must be those toxic leather fumes that obviously have you have been sniffing to get high that has stolen your resolve and thought process so everything you say you (and you only given your signature on your own petition) believe in with your whole tainted heart. Speaking with no overstanding of how a debate works; in fact, there is no debate here when everyone has a point coming from truth and experience which doesn’t have to be defended…except you; who is constantly on the defensive with no real substantial intellectual weaponry. Thanks for the laughs though.

        Before YOU CONTINUE making an asshole, coward, whore-monger and pedophile lover of yourself; (which I would like to think your mother raised you better but obviously not) ….learn how to effectively communicate before talking about someone else’s math skills and making unsubstantiated generalizations of people with no evidence. Your generalizations only come back to harm you and nobody else. Obviously with your poor selection of words, you are the one who cant add or subtract the ways in which to correctly communicate with respect to getting a BASIC point across.

        Lastly, you have exposed your IP address on several occasions and if you are not careful moving forward, I will take further action using that information to silence you in this forum if you continue to spew your stupidity; The choice is yours. You have chosen the wrong topic to attach yourself to and the wrong organization to challenge. Although it may help you by tallying down all of my comments, (which I find hilarious and weak of you by the way) your use of a VPN will not assist you with keeping your personal information hidden. Thanks for the attention…..I truly appreciate it.

        Now back to the topic…..

        https://www.change.org/petitions/tennessee-state-attorney-general-department-of-justice-give-cyntoia-brown-a-new-trial

        • Nidhish Mehra

          Is it more easily for you to make the communication in Hindi? Crazy and rude black boy. Be the silent fellow or make the typing in Hindi. hahaha certainly you are not capability. In actuality your English is not fluent. Please do not be insulting me (Nidhish) typing the two language as you cannot able to type one :) You are truthly the mental defective brain boy, isn’t it? I am also suspicion of homosexual :)

          • HSIHDIN

            TRUE FAGGOT……. GAYS WOULD EVEN DESPISE YOU AS LESSER.

    • FYI

      Because thats when they come to get you.

  • Herbin Flamez
  • Nidhish Mehra

    Please for attention of documentaryheaven webmaster! Herbin Flamez was making threatenings my IP reveal. I (Nidhish) respectfully ask if Is possible for persona non grata for Herbin Flamez? His mental is not correct thinking, isn’t it? Please to inform me A.S.A.P. because tomorrow I am not wanting my sandwiches time at Paseo spoiling, isn’t it?

    • Ak

      punk ass bitch…you not scared to endorse sex with a child, but when a REAL MAN like Herbin Flamez exposes you and puts you in check you call the IP police….lmaooooo…a f#@king joke…lmaooooo….continue to hide behind your computer screen, clearly you cant make it in the real world…you safer behind your screen stalking kids and talking shit you cant back up…..i intended to not pay you no mind…but your cries for help was comical…if i learned anything about you via your comments is that CYNTOIA BROWN has extremely bigger balls than you….lol…#good laugh

      • Nidhish Mehra

        My friend, Ak. Please open your eyes. I (Nidhish) am talking of this movie of Cyntoia Brown and the dead / murdering of Mr Johnny, isn’t it? Is it not that I can speak my truth? Look this threatening “Lastly, you have exposed your IP address on several occasions and if you are not careful moving forward, I will take further action using that information to silence you in this forum if you continue to spew your stupidity; The choice is yours.” Is this the normal? Is U.S.A. not celebrity because for freedom speaking? 1) U.S.A. is the legal place to intercourse with 16 years old. 2) The freedom speaking is not true :) 3) Now it is certainty Ak and Herbin is same writer and/or lovers, isn’t it? :) Please be show photo of your kissings :)

        • HSIHDIN

          YOUR KILLING YOURSELF….LITERALLY. SUICIDE ONLINE…..CHARACTER ASSASSINATION SUICIDE. THERES A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GAY AND FAGGOT… AND YOU MY ENEMY ARE A FAGGOT INDEED.

        • achicknlb

          Please learn to speak and write before you post such nonsense. I cant even understand you. If the us is so bad, leave please go back to where you came from and get an education. “Please be show photo…” what the hell is that. I know two year olds that speak better.

  • Your Mum

    I believed everything that Cytonia said. She was such a sweet girl and so brutally honest. The police officers played on her innocence and fooled her during their interview. There is no way this girl is some evil being they try and portray her to be. She was just a kid with a bad situation. The people who did this to her should be on the other side of the bars. The man she killed was undoubtedly a creep and did not deserve to die but I believe Cytonia felt threatened enough to defend herself. The end result is bullshit!

  • Nidhish Mehra

    Thanks you webmaster. Now I am again feeling the safe feelings for surfing this website. It is indeed the awful things to be the attacked one in the internet, isn’t it?

    • al

      @nidhish-mehra you are an illiterate sick fuck. You need mental fucking help. You should be in jail instead of this child. I honestly do not think I have ever witnessed such sheer fucking stupidity in my life. Karma will come back to haunt you for all the fucked up shit you say You should not be allowed around people let alone a computer that has internet access. Do the world a favor and either get yourself some education or just shut the fuck up. It is people like you keep this world a horrible place. It is people like you that are the reason things portrayed in this documentary happen. How do you live with yourself honestly? How about before you even think about replying to this you go out and fucking learn to spell and communicate like a human being? It really must be exhausting being that fucking stupid.

      • HSIHDIN

        INDEED….. well said. DEAD HIM.

  • Cindylou

    Nauseating little twat. Great adoptive mother, so much money dumped on analyzing the lame brain of this sub-intelligent little murderess. It was actually boring to watch because, like most criminals, this girl is a total dumbass.

    • Tchoupi2las

      You are a tasteless piece of shit and you are ignorant. She may be guilty but life is a stretch. The U S is such a bullshit country, saying we are all Americans, y do you enslave a people if we all the same?

  • HSIHDIN

    https://www.change.org/petitions/tennessee-state-attorney-general-department-of-justice-give-cyntoia-brown-a-new-trial

    24000 AND COUNTING…..

    THAT EVIL BITCH NIDHISH CAN GO GAG ON A 16 INCH PORNO BLACK COCK THAT HE DREAMS ABOUT AND EAT SPERM FOR A LIVING….. DEAD HIM. CHECK MATE FOR THE GREATER GOOD YOU FUCKING BITCHES BITCH YOU….NIDHISH.

    • I know the truth jerks

      your disgusting God help you

  • Ishi

    Poor baby, what an evil nation that would put a child in jail for life. THE USA is an international fucking joke !! Cindylou you are a fuckwit, this girl is bright, beautiful and worth so much more, and as for you Nihdish Mehra you sick little INDIAN fuck, she was a child only 14 !!!. There is more integrity, honour compassion and truth in the slums of Mumbai than you will have in your whole life What kind of people gave you the breath of life ?? they must be dogs., no the flies on dog shit !! The only reason she was even there was because 36 asshole scum of the earth MEN thought that it was o.k to get their rocks off with a child. She should NEVER have been in that situation,decades of intergenerational abuse, sexual violence towards a child and a whole family that let her down. My heart goes out to her and if I met anyone of you I would have no hesitation in sending you strait to hell where you all belong. I have travelled the world, I have seen the best in humanity and I have seen the worst. I have looked evil and death in the eye on too many occassions and I thought I had pretty much heard the worst of it but this doco made me cry for the utter waste of a beautiful girl who had the potential to be anyone she wanted, and perhaps if given half a chance she would have become. She was a product of her environment and now … well what a waste.And as for these comments….. what kind of people are you ?? a shameful product too of the way and the method of your own education or lack there of, you make me rage, i wish you only a lifetime of misery.

    • I know the truth jerks

      wow you summed it up perfectly and I am embarrassed to be apart of this country.

      • Matthew Johnson

        then leave.

        • Lee Lee

          Really?You want to end the night on hate?

          • Matthew Johnson

            well if you hate the US so much leave. Nice of you to hide behind that screen of yours.

          • Lee Lee

            the us is all I know I was upset at everyone comments and I suppose I expressed my frustration in a dramatic way. I dislike the close minds of certain people, ok?better? And im not hiding behind my screen anymore than you….duh this is the only way we can communicate is via threads. You act as if I was a big cyberbully

          • Milkstopher Tripp

            Matt’s just pissy because people have opinions. That’s a direct result of what scientists refer to as the little bitch gene, or L.B.G. surprisingly, it’s a predominately male issue, so he most likely inherited it from his LBG daddy. Not his fault…. just science.

          • Matthew Johnson

            im not pissy about anything. wasnt my life that was ruined or ended. but go ahead and attack me. Im just saying if your going to hate the U.S then why stay? theres plenty of other countries the person can leave to. Atleast you had the balls to use your fb account unlike most of these people on here so i commend you on that. And yes my dead beat father is a Little Bitch so no argument there.

          • ty

            I’ll go if you’ll pay. That’s the only thing stopping me.

        • Shez

          God forgive you. You need to pray trust me pray that not one young girl in your life ever becomes a victim and defends thereself

          • Matthew Johnson

            she was selling herself. so i have no sympathy. maybe if her parents had been there this could have been avoided but alot of parents are dead beats nowadays.

    • Shez

      Couldn’t say it any better I’m glad I ain’t over there n any1 that can really say that little girl deserves it I pray for them bcuz they don’t have no women no daughters in there life

  • Mom123

    I feel like there is information missing. For example she was convicted of robbery, but there wasn’t anything mentioned about that. She was also i solitary confinement, again no details. Now I am left to wonder if this story was portrayed inaccurately and is some kind of propaganda.

    • Elizabeth Sanchez

      The only thing i can say there more to this. And i hope n pray that she get out …n give her the chance out there.. God bless her

  • Eyes Open

    Before you render judgment, either in sympathy with Cyntoia or the courts, you should be better informed. This is a link to the appeal decision in 2009: http://law.justia.com/cases/tennessee/court-of-criminal-appeals/2009/browncyntoiadeniseopn.html Try to remain unbiased while you read it, and weigh all facts at the end. Yes, the documentary left a LOT of information out.

  • Max

    This is just sad. She is obviously a victim on so many levels. Also being from Sweden i think it is really fucked up that USA is allowing people to have guns.. Guns are made for killing people.. In my opinion the government in the US should be held responsible for every person being shot or killed with a gun that has been bought legally in the states..

    • Ssg-Scott Byrd

      Stay in Sweden then. The only people that are victims are the ones without guns to take care of themselves. Responsible people know how to have a weapon without harming anyone but those that seek to harm them.

      • john

        ye Americans amaze me, ye really think guns work for your country look at the number of gun related murders in your country, per capita it blows other countries out of the water. Your country time and time again has proved itself irresponsible in handling firearms safely, The fact that its considered a right is laughable

    • Bob

      Wow look at this self righteous person right here I hope for your family and the ones you love you never come face to face with some one bent on doing you harm they will eat you alive

    • Linda Geltmaker

      Max, you are stupid! Guns are way for sone families to put food on their table and protect their families from danger. Guns don’t kill people. Criminals kill people!!

      • kirsten

        I agree linda

  • Matthew Johnson

    He broke the law and she broke the law. both got what they deserved. the end.

    • Shez

      It’s not always that way in America n you know it isn’t. The same way white police officers keep on getting away with killing black men this young girl didn’t need to get life at all

      • Neisha

        Yes your are so true on that

      • Matthew Johnson

        What white police are you referring to? Because according to the BLACK DOJ Holder none of the police so far in the news killed anyone without a reason to do so. but i do know of black people killing cops because they believed the Hands up dont shoot stuff the media was spouting.

        • ty

          You wouldn’t know because you obviously aren’t around to know. Police can be corrupt and power hungry. People see what they want to see. Let’s not.

    • lewisjm

      You ignorant clown, life! If it were your child or a white one you would be crying fowl. Please, getba b life you pos

      • cdenman

        Since when did this become a white and black thing… as far as i can remeber… america is a melting pot of all interracial ethnics.

      • Matthew Johnson

        I don’t care what color she is. they both got what they deserved. he fucked a little kid, she sold her body and killed him. She should get the death penalty. I would say the same thing a thousand times over white black Latino native american Asian idgaf. The law is the law.

        • Joe

          You’re heartless and cold. I would agree if she was born in a great supportive family and she went against them but she was born in a terrible environment to a 16 year old druggy teen.

    • Mrs.Minnie

      You!!

    • Michel Polnicky

      Matthew
      I’m a Canadian a French one at that and I can tell you that this would never happen here, there is no way you can justify your comment by simply saying she broke the law…think it’s not illegal yet, this child is a product of constant abuse who had no direction giving to her in life, it took me seven years of courts battle to get the custody of my son, I won’t put her mother on trial here but I’ll say this the situation he was in was a bad one so I took a stand as any Father worthy of that name should do. The justice system in the US is a broken one and I for one don’t think putting kids in prison for LIFE will fix anything.

      Having compassion is not a weakness !

  • Letem Dangle

    And this is just one case in an ocean of sickness.

  • Courtney

    I think everyone needs to stop blaming America lol. Especially people from Europe. I heard a woman being beat by her husband in Italy and we called the police and they did absolutely nothing. In America the man would be taken to jail immediately. No questions asked.

    • Shez

      Please tell me what your talking about. We are talking about a young girls life.

      • 100PERCENT

        WHAT DO THIS HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?

  • Jessica Evans

    Cyntoia was a child…. Should she be punished yes! Should she spend the rest of her life in prison no! I was in prison with cyntoia and I know her before y’all watch a t.v. show and judge her find the facts out first….. No the man didn’t deserve to die but a child should never be put in a situation where a grown man is on top of her!!!!!! No child should be locked away for life and I’ve seen it so many times and no one helps y’all just judge!!!! I love you cyntoia and I know you’ll be free soon!

    • Shaleeyah Daniels

      I would like to write her. Her story touched me in such a way that I feel I need to express some thoughts and feelings to her. Do you know how I could do that?

      • jeanette Gordon

        You can write Cyntoia Brown at:
        #410593
        3881 Stewart’s Lane
        Nashville, TN 37218

        • Godz Kreation

          Jeanette Gordan Will She Write Back?

    • Fallon Michelle Alexander

      You took the words out my mouth

  • mzz maris

    Poor girl, she was so young and who knows what hell she was going through… I don’t think she should be in there for life, prayers are sent her way..

  • Shayla

    That’s FUCKED up its people out here killing they blood relatives and its people out here killing other people and when I say people im talking about KIDS ‘TEENAGERS and they ain’t getting life its Police officers killing kids they not getting life but y’all tryna give this girl life for something she did to protect her self when she was a Teenager O.P Fuck the

  • Ms. Calhoun

    This is the saddest story I’ve ever read. So young & misguided smh. The system is all screwed up.

  • lili

    My heart hurts for her, I mean the jury couldn’t acknowledge all that she went thru.. it’s hard for adult let alone for a child to go thru the circumstances she went thru… I’m not saying she not guilty but it 2asnt first degree murder… I think a lighter sentence would of been better…

  • Chri$$$ anDreTTi #FreeAgent

    The guy who murdered my mother in cold blood got 15 years, and he was my sisters father. He doesn’t get life but this young woman got her entire life stripped away from her because she acted out of fear for life.
    I’m sorry for what the system does to the youth, they don’t deserve this. They’re still young and still need time to mature and grow. Sitting in a correctional institute for life isn’t going to help a child any more.
    Yeah she was guilty, but those who stripped her of her life are the guilty ones, please just free this young woman soon, I know she greatly regrets the choices she made, but you have to remember she made those choices because the people who were supposed to protect her more than likely failed her.

  • Angiie

    This Is So Sad & It Really Hurst me too see this for somereason this touched me all i can say is keep your head up and stay strong belive in GOD !

  • cristal

    so sad that she has to serve life. i couldnt have said it any better then Jessica Evans. but the system needs to get it together their are soooo many child molesters walking free or on “parole” that dont EVER register and still get a second, third n even fourth chance in life to molest all over again sick people like that deserve life even the death penalty. Please if u work as district attorney or in criminal court rooms review the cases right some people dont deserve life or just the outstanding time given to them.

  • Maria

    I literally cried towards the end.. Especially, with the sentencing and her final thoughts. She reflected my sister, although she never harmed no one. This system really needs to find a better way of sentencing kids in her situation

    • tammy

      Yes

  • Dub

    You guys sympathize a bit too much without thinking straight. She showed no emotion whatsoever about anything. She described the murder of a person so calmly as if it was a norm. She claims she was abused by her father but her mother never mentioned anything about that, nor the police. She also claims the boyfriend abused her and beat her, but there were no signs of any of that. She claims she was afraid but during the hearing it was mentioned she had a shower at the guy’s place, she even slept there comfortably. She tried to rob him and he tried to escape so she shot the guy. If a jury convicted her, there has to be a reason. This documentary was very one sided.

    • Shantel

      You don’t know a lot about abuse I take it.

      • Dub

        So instead of saying something logical, you make it personal. You mean to tell me, if someone is/was abused it’s absolutely normal they will kill a person? That would mean half this world would be psychopathic killers.

        • Coached10

          You made it personal! So because nobody else mentioned what happened to her, then it’s not true? Many people who experience abuse, don’t always talk about it, many are ashamed, or feel it’s something they did. Your whole comment sounds like you have formed your opinion and you choose not to believe her. Question, how is a person supposed to sound, when describing taking a life? Is there a written standard? Or does everyone exhibit emotions differently?

          • Dub

            Wasn’t it a jury of normal people, who decided on the verdicts? It means that if they, with the evidence that was presented to them, decided on those verdicts, don’t you think that if we also knew all the details (not comments made but actual facts), we would think the same? Count 3 aggravated robbery. Which means she didn’t just defend herself but evidence suggested she robbed him. Was that mentioned anywhere in the documentary? Nope!

          • Coached10

            First off not saying guilty /innocent, but as we have seen in the last year men serving 20+ years in prison, only to be found innocent. So don’t put all your hopes on the legal system. I’m saying not all things true or false come out in trials.

          • Mrs.Minnie

            A jury or her peers?? besides it’s not over till …

        • Shantel

          Let me help you out. When I said you didn’t know much about abuse that means you don’t understand the circumstances that occur. That did not mean it’s an excuse to murder. I will say this when you are abused things happen psychologically that can make you kill the next abuser. As you can see in this case. Just because the mom didn’t say anything doesn’t mean she wasn’t abused. Like I said you don’t know much that’s why you can’t understand what happened. It doesn’t make sense to you.

        • Shantel

          By the way that is logical when you think normal.

        • cheryl

          I’m with you completely. I was tortured growing up by the people that were supposed to love me, but I’m not out there killing people. People please wake up there’s no excuse!

          • Mrs.Minnie

            But you thought of it so you did commit murder that was how you dealt with yours and probably still wrestling with them demons.
            She lashed out the only way she knew how has made some peace with her demons. reach out and help any way you can u know how it is.

        • Teeninchee

          No, but when you put all of it together…Abuse, abandonment, the prenatal exposure to alcohol and drugs and the effect on the ability of the infant brain to look at life correctly, correctly judge a situation and think of what to do…I’m telling you…you are looking at children who struggle with LIFE–forever. And this is not the only person in jail who is there because of these issues.

    • Jerry Mcdurmott

      Your comment is extremely ignorant. And sadly it is typical in our country to refuse to rehabilitate people. Human beings deserve a second chance, our prisons are overrun and barbaric. Perhaps rehabilitation is the better way? You know, like the rest of the civilized world.

    • Jami

      This is in response to Dub’s comment.

      With all respect Dub, you may want to re watch atleast the first 30 minutes of the story if you would like to offer a factual comment.
      I have only seen the first 30 minutes and I can say that each of the things you commented on were absolutely covered in her documentary.
      I am not saying that to be argumentative, I want to be clear because I only hope you would want that if you had some part of your life documented and available for everyone to comment on .
      Have a good night…

      • Dub

        Alright then. I’m going to watch it again. be back in a bit.

      • Dub

        2minute mark. “Many things happened to her” “pattern of bad things””She would step out of bad situations and find herself another bad situation to get into. She allowed herself to get into another bad situation”(allowed herself?) Doesn’t mention abuse though. Then the film maker at 4:13 says she was abused. So far neither the forensic psychiatrist nor any authority figure mention it though. I’ll keep watching.. 6:43 hear the lawyer, he does a good job seeing through the evidence. 7:24 the guy she killed bought her food, means he was being respectful to her, even though I do agree he’s a scumbag for trying to hook up with a 16yr old. They ate together, watched TV together, does that sound like a threatening guy? nope. 7:47. He just like, like like with almost closed eyes. Sounds like lying to me. Then she saw him roll over, and managed to instantly get up, grab her purse, take her gun out and point it and less than half a second and put 4 bullets in him. Sounds legit? Then her interview with the psychiatrist, which was heartfelt in the kutt part. But If she was that scared, don’t you think she should have called the police as soon as she went out of that guy’s house? Why would she keep doing what she did? make no sense. 15 minute psychiatrist talk s only about her different parents and abandonment. Still no abuse. Oh wow, her own mother talks about her being manipulative and possessive. 18:53. Her adoptive mother speaks. Let’s see if she talks of abuse. Oh biological mother was drinking throughout almost the entire pregnancy and then crack cocaine. That’s horrible. 24:57 I THINK she was abused as a child. Meaning that he THINKS it happened. There I found it just for you. I think and “there are police reports/medical documents” are very far apart. I’m not saying she wasn’t but in the eyes of a judge and jury you can’t prove it. Again, it also doesn’t mean you get to kill someone.

        There, see, factual comments like before. Also no part of my life will ever be documented because I’m an average person who will never either kill someone or become famous enough to have a documentary about.

        I do believe a life sentence is way too much for a 16year old to face, but I also know that that’s what the appeals are for. She will probably get a much reduced life sentence and by 35-40yrs old she will probably be out. I also believe that it’s too late for her to be in a juvenile court, because the damage done to her psyche wouldn’t be fixed by the time she was 19. She not only has a personality disorder, with a past that may or may not have been abusive, but she also killed a person. She has gone too far down the road legally and psychologically. That’s the end of my comments. Won’t reply anymore here. Adios!

        • Dub
        • Teeninchee

          You must not know much about how older men treat teenaged prostitutes–male and female. Food is part of the way they work. And you SURE don’t know about abuse, abandonment, prenatal substance abuse, and the attachment disorder that comes to children who are bounced from place to place in their early years. The adoptive mother was clueless because the child wasn’t talking to her about what was happening in her life.

          Sex with relatives? Sex when you didn’t want it, because you were told to? Being slapped around by the adoptive father…I find it strange that he wasn’t in the picture at all.

          And yes, I do know about these things because I have been a foster and adoptive parent to these children for 44 years. Birth mother drinking/drugging during pregnancy? That baby was already behind the 8 ball before it was born. Prenatal alcohol and drug abuse leaves the child with no connection between cause and effect, trying to figure out what the right and wrong are and why they are right and wrong. The continual breaking of relationship bonds causes trust issues, (Reactive Attachment Disorder for one) THOSE are the things they should have looked at in her life. THOSE are the issues I deal with on the daily with children whose start in life was just as rocky.

          But…she has a penalty, and maybe — if she connects with rehabilitated women, she will become a productive person and may be paroled one day.

          She is one reason I fight so hard for MY kids from these environments.

          • tammy

            So true

    • jessica

      Hello she clearly has suffered alot from before even being born!!! She clearly has some mental illness and doesn’t belong j jail. Yoi obviously need to educate yourself and understand why she didn’t show any enomotion is not because she didn’t care but because she is ill.

    • Mrs.Minnie

      Dud are u really serious?

    • Teeninchee

      First, you don’t understand the flat affect and tone of the abused–the disassociation. And something in your version is weird…Prosecution says the man was asleep when he was shot. So she didn’t shoot him while trying to escape….And jury conviction with a “reason”….you must not live in the USA.

    • tammy

      Showing no emotion can be a defense mechanism, also can be denial.. don’t judge ppl unless u are in their situation

    • dena

      She should show emotion after all she was put through from her mother — through all the ppl that had her b 4 she ended up with Ellenette for good — she was desensitized from all the crap she had gone through , abandament , trust issues — she had nobody and the justice didn’t even try to help they threw her away a 16 year old for life — does she deserve it????? No, i believe she should have been put into a ward to help her understand what she wentever she had gone through that put her in this situation —- u have no idea if this 43 yo had a gun or what was said b 4 she shot him — the other side is going to do whatever they can do to put her away that is their job– she’s a young girl and did something but don’t put her away

  • Jerry Mcdurmott

    This country is really barbaric, our “justice” system is like something out of the 1800’s. Check this out http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/29/magazine/the-radical-humaneness-of-norways-halden-prison.html?_r=2

  • A. Coe

    wow. I’m not saying the guys life should have been taken; however, this is a 43 year old man laying up with a teenager. He didn’t have decency to NOT be in bed with a kid and show compassion for her troubles. She did dumb shit no doubt, I just don’t know that it was worth her not having a life when she was born into the bullshit.

    • tammy

      Agreed..

  • Jasmine

    This saddens me. As a 23 going on 24 year old adult i can personally say that i am not the same girl i was when i was 16 as im sure many of you can also say about yourselves. Also based on the way she was raised and the lack of love that she felt it led her to make horrible decisions in people. I remember at that age all i wanted was to feel hot and desired and loved as most people going through puberty do. Everything i felt was like an electricity volt through my body and was usually led by ignorance. I felt everything so passionately and i had not yet discovered the meaningful things that i know now in life. Fighting and killing were things that were around me and i thought were cool based on me growing up in a rough neighborhood with gangs and pimps and the glamour this kind of lifestyle receives in the media. Now that i’m older i understand the gravity of it. I wish they put her in a psych ward due to the constant abuse and also gave her intense therapy with a heavy probation sentence maybe 10 years after her release. They just threw her life away, she was really a child. I hope people understand what just happened to her and i hope she will get the justice and freedom she deserves.

  • Mrs.Minnie

    This is injustice too the core I will speak to YHWH and petion the speedily release for Cyntoia a victim of the system for a intervention from on high for her release intervention from those with deep pockets to get her some good legal help. I will post on facebook ask for help for her , signatures whatever it takes to fludd the Tennesse womens correctional and the governer of said state for release of this young women. Cyntoia help is on the way

    • Sole

      Hello I live outside the USA but I would like to help in any way possible. This child is a victim of all the adults in her life and needs a fair chance. Please let me know what I can do.
      Sole

  • LOL

    http://law.justia.com/cases/tennessee/court-of-criminal-appeals/2009/browncyntoiadeniseopn.html

    Real story here, this documentary sucks. Victim was shot in the back of the head close range. Doctor testified he was sleeping when she shot him. She also testified initially, that the guy picker her up from the street not as a prostitute but to help her out of the streets. Bought her food and brought her to his home. He tried to have sex with her but they didn’t do it. A friend of hers testified that she said to him “I killed a man for 50 thousand dollars and some guns”. Another nurse who had an altercation with her testified she was grabbed by her and told “I’ll kill you like that guy but not with one bullet in the back of the head but three”. Also when police went to the motel she stayed, she jumped to defend “kutt” saaying he had nothing to do with it.

    • Beth Jacobs

      Yes you are right LOl, what a “good guy” he was.He picked up a child, bought her some food to keep her busy while he drove her to his house to rape her

    • Mrs.Minnie

      LOL go back to sleep

  • Mrs.Minnie

    Let’s give this exposure make this story go viral get the attention of the governor who has the power to pardon. As we all know there are many in her situation but if we can start with her get her some help together we could get the ball rolling just one to start and i believe Cyntoia needs our help before the systems harden’s her and make her a worser victim I believe there is still hope,please in humanity help.

  • Mrs.Minnie

    This is the man to address in this matter let’s get the ball rolling on this one people and we can be instrument in helping Cyntoia Brown
    Office of Governor Bill HaslamTennessee State Capitol
    Nashville, TN 37243-0001
    Phone: 615/741-2001

    Fax: 615/532-9711

    • tammy

      I will write this week

    • spark

      I’m in.

  • meghan

    This is such a sad story. This girl was betrayed by every grown-up in her entire life she needs help not life. This makes me sick that they would lock her away for life when clearly in her mind she was using self defense.

  • tammy

    She deserves a 2nd chance, this man was have sex with a 15 yrs old.. he’s not moral; he shouldn’t of had her in his bed. 15 yr old with no crime records or history shouldn’t be trailed so harshly.. we are definitely not the ppl we where as teenagers.. get her out, and let her live her life

    • Yattaya

      I totally agree you You! I cannot believe this man and what his intentions were with this Little girl got completely set aside. It’s like he was justified in soliciting sex from a minor and all that he intended to do disregarded. She had no history of murderous behavior but 1st degree conviction is unreal to me considering all facts.

  • LoveyDovey

    With me being an 18 year old female , I can say that I went thru some of the worst things possible , and I must admit I did some pretty shitty things before of how I kept everything to myself thru out my childhood til around the age of 14-15 maybe , I turn my life around , I continued to do better in school and I recently graduated Class Of 2014 , I just prayed and ask God to forgive me , even went to Church and he took all my hurt and pain away , It hurts me to know that it all happened to her , she could have choosen a better to resolve the situation , but at the end of the im happy she continued to smile and be happy , I hope and pray that they work something out for her , I see so much potential in her , may God work his ways for you , she deserve a 2nd chance and she will get it

    • IMPACT1

      Guest, I am happy to hear you have found help and “chose” to “receive” that help.

      Christians say God helps those who help themselves…
      I am glad you ‘found’ him. Keep him near and you will never be alone in times of loneliness or need…

      You sound like you are on the right path…wishing you a bright future!

  • Yummy1

    Brought tears to my eyes, Cyntoia was a child and does not deserve life. She should definitely be punished but should also be given another chance. The jury took no consideration to her childhood and what she went through. I hope come this Fall something happens for the better for Cyntoia. She deserves another chance at life. I will be writing to the Governor even though my letter may not make a difference but I do hope attention is brought to this case and Cyntoia is given another chance. There are murderes in my town that have committed worse crimes and only got 15-25 years. But yet a child who was picked up by a man damn near 3 times her age gets life because she felt the need to protect herself before something happened to her smh this is so sad. #FREECYNTOIA

  • Christine vargas

    This is so sad .. I believe there should be justice but not a life sentence . That man had no morals . But this little girl suffered enough ! I’m gonna share this story so that the world knows and step to help this child .. Our system failed her so now who is gonna pay for that ? Don’t worry I’ll wait …..

  • Donna Beck Osborn

    R U people serious!!!!!! She went out to sell herself(not matter her age) and got caught up in a bad situation(ho hummm) she knew what she was doing and intentionally went out to prostitute. She may look innocent cause she is only 16, but bad things happen to BAD people.

    • Delilah Haley

      Just take a second to maybe consider/review/ponder on WHY she was a “bad” person as you have so quickly labeled her. She was a precious soul (as we all are when we are brought into this world) but she unfortunately didn’t have the same “luck/blessings” that I’m assuming you and i did. Her life STARTED off with a series of unfortunate events and mistreatings. In your first stage of life, if you are not correctly guided (which she wasn’t), you’re vulnerable to take in everything that’s going on around you. Im sure she couldn’t understand what was happening to her (drug addicts, foster care, physical violance), let alone WHY it was happening to her. Now how could she cope with that? You and I wouldn’t know how that affected her and how she was feeling because we weren’t in her shoes. Yes, we create our own lives but that’s only possible if you are AWARE that we are capable of allowing/manifesting a beautiful life to enjoy. She got into a whole lot of trouble alright but can we really blame a child for not having anyone to steer them in the right direction? I couldn’t. She was a 16 year old PROSTITUTE that pulled the trigger on a GROWN man that was inflicting fear on her before and in the process of fucking her! She confessed. Should she NOT be punished at all for her actions bc she was a child? no, there certainly has to be consequences but in my opinion ending her life with a life sentence is not the answer. And especially not labeling her a “BAD” person. We should try to learn lessons from everything: We should be more nurturing of children, not just ours but the children all over the world, because they are our future and it hurts my heart to see anyone end up like this. Let’s start taking responsibility, you and i and everyone else seeing <3 lets raise "good" people, after all we're all brothers and sisters. Wish you well.

      • jordy m

        She shouldnt have done that still she ran away from a stable home to be a prostitute

        • BlahBlahBlackSheep

          She ran away after being raped, molested and threatened at 13. Judging from your syntax, you may be 13 or 14 yourself. I hope this never happens to you and that things don’t get so crazy that you find yourself doing insane things to survive.

          • IMPACT1

            SHE ran away from her ‘stable’ home.

        • spark

          Who are you people?? You call her home life stable. This is so sad. Really. Her biological family had psychological issues. She was a child who did not know right from wrong. This is just crazy and disturbing. Lord have mercy on your soul.

          • IMPACT1

            Did you actually watch the Documentary?

        • Mrs.Minnie

          Someone needs meds

    • manny

      Yeah I bet when you were that age u were the perfect ideal person and knew exactly what you were doing that knew how all your decisions would play out
      WHO THE FUCK ARE U TO CALL A YOUNG GIRL A BAD PERSON THAT PROBABLY WENT THROUGH SHIT U WULD NEVER UNDERSTAND NO MATTER WHAT (age) U r

    • Sherrie

      You have to look at her mindset and all the stuff she been through in life..Yes, she committed a crime but what state of mind did she really had..she went through so much at a young age. At what point did someone step in to get her help..I think they should make her do time in jail but at the same time get her help,so she can deal with what going on insde of her…she’s probably carrying around a lots of pain,hurt,rejection&confusion ect..let’s in brace her with prayer not cured words

    • Krankerdelic

      Ok, Ms High and Mighty. You don’t see anything wrong with a Sunday school teacher, choir person, very active in the Church of God soliciting sex from a prostitute, an underage one at that? I’m not condoning what she did but her family and health history coupled with the so called man of God’s action led to this. As a man of God, he could have done something else, like PRAY for her, try to steer her to the right path but noooo, he wanted sex from an underage girl.

      • IMPACT1

        She HAD NO CONTACT with her biological mother for 15 years!!

        She HAD a stable home life, SHE RAN AWAY…Cyntoia made a CHOICE to be with bad Boy druggie “Boyfriend”…He didn’t just ‘happen’ on her door step…

        You go looking for that kind oF garbage you find it…these days they are a dime a dozen…

        and wow, suddenly everyone in America is a “victim”…

        Only Cyntoia us the ONLY ONE who is actually taking responsibility for her actions…

        “I” killed a man…”I” executed him…That is why I am always depressed…”I” have to think about that everyday…-Cyntoia Brown

    • Ms. West

      Wow, you sound really slow. What people seem to be missing is that she was a child! At 16, she was doing what she had to do to. No one knows what they will do at their lowest. This poor girl seems to have been failed by everyone around her. There were plenty contributing factors that led up to this crime that could have been avoided. Before you jump up so quick ready to chastise her, I hope you have lived a pure life. Smh, social media is the only place where people talk a bunch of shit knowing good & well they are living an miserable existence. But, anyway glad to know that you are little miss perfect.

    • disqus_yzdsTbWeP4

      That lifestyle has caught up a lot of innocent girls. I was a wholesome foster kid from small town Oklahoma, a valevictorian (sp?) that ended up in Vegas on a sales job that went bad. I was homeless out there and I have no family to back me up. I was naive and ended up in that lifestyle. I did what I had to do. Then I ran away from a pimp and went back to college. Never touched drugs or committed any other crimes. So…..sometimes bad things happen to bad people or sometimes bad things happen to good people or even little girls that get caught up in their parents mistakes. Truth is you don’t know what this child went through. I met so many girls in that lifestyle that didn’t want to be there. They aren’t that different than you they just weren’t as lucky as you. I’m not saying it’s not a decision they made but not everyone can be as high and mighty as you. However those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. I’m sure you’re not perfect.

      • IMPACT1

        Again, did YOU watch the documentary??

        For cripes sake! She HAD A NICE HOME!!

        “SHE” ran away…SHE was with a bad boy druggie…HE Abused her…

        LISTEN to the anguish of Ellenette, her ADOPTIVE MOTHER…does SHE sound unstable? ? She loves Cyntoia, I do not think Ellenette made any mistakes..

        Cyntoia made mistakes…she admitted to it…

        What is everyone here hearing in this documentary that I’m not??

    • Guest

      You obviously have no idea what is like not knowing when your next meal will be and how you will get it and you obviously have never been through anything severe because when you are at your lowest you will do anything to make ends meet at 16 there is no way for you to do things on your own you need a parent for everything and the fact that she didn’t have one left her with only a few decisions so. She was not an adult she was a confused little girl who thought everyone was out to get her . Maybe if you knew suffering you would be a little more sympathetic

    • Judalon

      I hope you’re not a mom

    • Shaye

      You say she’s a BAD person because she was prostituting you say she’s a BAD person because she killed a man and that BAD THINGS HAPPEN TO BAD PEOPLE! Well does that mean her being held at gun point and forced to have sex or being told to go out and make money using her body or being left with many people as a baby because she’s a “BAD” person or maybe because she was never given a shot at a good life and never given the help that she truly needed at a young age! That’s why people are saddened by this documentary. Oh and the phrase is bad things happen to good people, but bad things like rape and murder shouldn’t be wished on no one!

      • IMPACT1

        Cyntoia ran away from…what seems to be a stable home enviroment…

        Who ‘forced’ her into that? That was a ‘choice’ made by poor little Cyntoia who obviously doesn’t know when she has a nice home. Maybe not perfect be her adoptive mother obviously cares about her. How many kids get a chance like THAT?

        Does her Adoptive Mother, Ellenette, come across as any other than that?

    • Guest

      Seriously YOU NEED HELP if bad things happen to bad people the minute u post your comment something would have happen to you MAY GOD BLESS YOU.

    • That girl

      No comment about what other are saying to u?

    • Domo

      Your clearly sheltered & have never had to deal with real life experiences open your eyes & wake the fuck up Not everyone could be so special to have everything handed to them on a silver platter she deserves a chance at life

    • rebecca

      Yeah she went out to prostitute cause her boyfriend made her after he raped her and threaten to kill her mom? Have you ever been so scared of someone you do exactly what they say? I have. Trust me i was molested from 3years- 9 years old and i didnt tell a soul cause he said he would hurt my mom. Now was i a bad persom who deserved bad things?!?!?! That statement can go both ways. Are we gonna ignore the fact that a 45 year old man was gonna pay a obvious little girl to have sex with? Ignorance is the problem in this world. Ill pray for you donna.

      • IMPACT1

        Obivious little girl?? There are “little girls” out there who LOOK like they are 18 or 19 and they are 14 or 15!?!!

        I am quite positive she didn’t have ‘braided pig tails’ when SHE was soliciting Sex for Money. If it was not him it would have been someone else…she was carrying a GUN.

        Or did everyone miss that little fact?

        The “little girl” had a GUN in her purse….

    • Shirley Hutchison

      What sort of human being are you, being a prostitute doesn’t make her a bad person. I suppose you call yourself a Christian too. Sometimes people in life are thrown in to bad situations that doesn’t make them bad, Often people make wrong choices in life. A bad person in my eyes is someone who harms a child whether it is physically, sexually or mentally. She was abused and harmed and now she is in jail for life that is appalling.

    • Adjoa Pacheco

      You my dear are unbelievable and either life has been hard on you and you are bitter or it will be hard and you will be alone

    • Sandra

      There is a reason that a 16 yr Old is not deemed an adult. Society fails our children everyday this chIld is product of our society of you and me. What grown man looks for a young girl to buy sexual favors? Why his house cheap bastard? He had issues too and yes she should be held accountable but not for entire life she did not wake up one day and said hmmm I’m going to kill a man today ….

      • IMPACT1

        Are you kidding me?

        She is NOT a PRODUCT of me. Quit dragging “Me” into this socitial stuff!

        “What grown man looks for a young girl to…?”
        First start with her **** Boyfriend/ PIMP!… (Or did you miss that part)… Her boyfriend/pimp who put a gun to Cyntoia’s head and made her have sex with HIM AND his bro’s.

        She looked ‘cute’ and ‘sweet’ with her braids in court at the beginning of the film… I am SURE she didn’t portray herself like that when she was ‘forced by her boyfriend/pimp to “get her lazy a** out there’ and make some money (for drink and drugs)…

    • spark

      R you serious!!! Did you watch it.. she had a choice die or get the money. This fool was IN HIS 40S. Wow. That’s rape by itself. She was a troubled kid. What the hell happened to you? Who are you to say she is a bad person. So it’s ok for 40 year old men to have sex with kids now? Smdh

    • Mrs.Minnie

      Her life was stunted way before she could understand between right & wrong. And she is not a bad person and cause bad things happen to good people more than not. She needs help do the right thing

    • Kenya

      Didn’t your mother teach you that when you have nothing nice to say don’t say nothing at all hmm

    • shannon

      2 Timothy 3:1-5 talks about the attitudes of people today. This child did have a bad life. She needs help not condemning. Who are we to judge her. If we put ourselves in her shoes for just a moment maybe we would feel differently.

      • IMPACT1

        OMG was anyone here actually paying attention to this Documentary? Or is ignorance that blissful?

        Her biological mother was 16. She was drinking AND became a Crackhead. Why? To “escape” from her ‘problems’ and Cyntoia, who WAS her ‘responsibility’. Drinking and a crackhead, instead of facing HER “responsibilities” something that OUR ‘society’ is getting very good at…

        Has anyone here been paying attention to her ADOPTIVE Mother? The Woman who raised her from 8 Months Old?
        Does the Woman speak and act like any thing other than a RESPONSIBILE PERSON?

        The only ‘Bad’ life Cyntoia had was the one SHE created. And she says so!

        • Izumi Shikibu

          The psychologist didn’t explain it very clearly, but research has proven that negative events, including parental violence, neglect, substance abuse and/or mental illness, have very definitive effects on children, even if those events occur only in early childhood. But Cyntoia also suffered some physical abuse from her adoptive father, and, if you listened to her descriptions of the 3 dozen men she had sex with, I think she said 5 or 6 were relatives, so she suffered sexual abuse, too. There is also no question that mental illness has a hereditary factor, meaning that even if she experienced no abuse or turmoil whatsoever, there’s still a chance that she would suffer from mental illness. And possibly the same is true with substance abuse. Unfortunately, this young woman had many, many factors going against her, then, when she “acted out” the way nearly all teenagers do, she didn’t really understand how to get out of the situations she got herself into. She didn’t have the same comprehension and coping skills many other teens with stable upbringings have. She actually seems to be an intelligent and insightful young woman; it’s unfortunate she wasn’t at that level of maturity before running away and getting involved with an abusive man who controlled her with violence and drugs. And sadly, she took a life because she thought it was her best reaction in that particular situaltion. This is someone who probably would benefit from counselling and support, and could be an asset to society. There are many murderers who are hardened criminals with no remorse and little chance of rehabilitation; Cyntoia really doesn’t seem to be one of them, and shouldn’t just be thrown away.

          • IMPACT1

            Look, all I know is this…If YOU (anyone) allows themselves to be a “victim” you (anyone) will always be a “victim”.

          • Izumi Shikibu

            You’re correct that we’re only seeing one side of this story being presented here. I’m not saying that the victim doesn’t merit some justice. It seems that whenever the defendant is someone society disdains, however, it isn’t justice but vengeance that’s meted out. And it happens that in this case, there are some particularly burdensome mitigating factors, also. However much we view sex as just a biological function of all animals, it doesn’t change the cold, hard fact that the sex industry (from escorts to street walkers and all in between) victimizes women far greater than it does men, but even ignoring that gender imbalance, most people in the sex industry are minimized & ignored by those in the mainstream and are the targets of violence, disdain and blame. You’d be hard-pressed to find even one whose story is, “I became a prostitute because I like sex”. It’s always because they need money & have no other skills or training, or because they’ve been controlled by others & forced into it. If you’ve been fortunate enough to have had at least a halfway decent upbringing by parents who cared about you, in all likelihood you’ve become an adult with a healthy enough ego to stop others from victimizing you. Unfortunately, that isn’t true for some people who often find themselves controlled & defined by others until they no longer understand how to break the cycle.

  • Kendall R.

    This absolutely shattered my heart. This was a young girl who was struggling through life with many issues that she probably wasn’t even aware that she had. Genetics and generational patterns really do play a major role in who we are and how we function as people. I don’t believe that she was innocent and a crime was clearly committed, however, psychiatric care and counseling would have been a better option in my opinion. Sending her to prison for life for protecting herself against a crime being committed against her is preposterous and yet another grave injustice of our so-called “justice system”. This helps no one. I pray for this young woman’s Soul and I pray that God will touch the hearts of those who have the power to overturn this decision and give this young woman another shot at LIFE! BLESSINGS!

  • cmarie

    This documentary really touched me.I know what’s it’s like to be young and make decisions that you don’t take a chance to think about how it’ll affect your life.I cried while watching this not only because of the things she’d already experieced at such a young age but at the fact that this was not a just decision.

  • Kesha

    I Don’t Think She Should Get Life

    • Miyah

      Shooting*

  • adriana rdz

    May god be with her,i as a parent feel the pain her mother its feeling,not bcuz i been through this but bcuz i have kids and wouldn’t want this for my kids…I will pray for her and i wish her the very best TODAY,TOMORROW AND ALWAYS…baby girl dont give up GOD knows you did a mistake and his the only one who could forgive you….be positive and always have faith,may god be with you..

  • jordy m

    Well she couldve broke up with him her mom didnt have to do drugs in the first place and you truly only run away from home if u dont want to follow the house rulez no matter what they are

    • larissa

      or maybe you run away because your beaten or molested? oh wait that’s not following “rulez” right?

      • IMPACT1

        Are you serious? You make yourself sounds foolish.

        Where was it said or proven Cyntoia was ‘Beaten’ by her adoptive Mother or Father? Where did it say she was taken from the home by DHS because she was being Abused?

        • Izumi Shikibu

          Cyntoia told the psychologist that her father, meaning Thomas, hit her, and sometimes said he didn’t know why when she asked. Of course that doesn’t constitute “proof”, but she’s so forthcoming with other events in her life, including her own bad behaviors, so I don’t think she was lying.

          • IMPACT1

            Izumi you sound like a reasonable, rational person.

            Let’s be honest here.

            When I was a teenager and when i was being disrespectful my parents “let me know who was the adult in the room”, and who was in charge, end of story.

            In retrospect, I probably deserved whatever I got….I will never say it was “abuse”….and it certainly didn’t make me run out and find a “cut” to hang with…

            She had “help” at age 13-14.
            I think the place was Woodlawn in TN…this was a ‘last chance’ place for ‘at risk’ kids to go get help…after that…the next place to go was jail or prison.

            Now, I am sure Cyntoia, as intelligent as you see her, and I don’t doubt it either, at this point she was well aware of ‘why’ she was sent there…(she was acting up, acting out, attacking fellow students, stealing, drugs and behaving badly).

            You have to help youself, to save yourself.
            Christians put it another way…God helps those who help themselves…
            No one besides Cyntoia, no matter how much ‘help’ she got could help her deal with her problems without doing some of the “hard work” herself…there is no “magic wand”…

  • Brittney

    There are a lot of people who grow up in those same circumstances that don’t end up doing those same things. Maybe they get lucky and meet someone that changes their life? Who knows! But just because you have a hard life when your younger does not constitute what you do when you are older! I feel bad for her or anyone that has to deal with that, but their are resources out there to help you turn your life around. It’s a sad situation!

    • Just me

      People like you kill me ! You lack empathy for her situation because you do not understand it. She is a child being taken advantage of by a grown man. He deserve what he got nasty bastard. The deck was stacked against her from the start. Society failed her and life in prison is the consequence. Some people do get out but that is a rare few. You can only understand if you have walked a mile in her shoes. It is sad just sad that the event happened in the first place.

      • IMPACT1

        ‘Society’ didn’t ‘fail her’ her own MOTHER – Gina FAILED HER!!

        Quit blaming Society for everything…blaming Society is an excuse…a cop out…

        People need to start taking RESPONSIBILITY for their own “Choices” and “Actions”

        Cyntoia is the ONLY ONE DOING THAT…everyone here on this post and in this documentary is making excuse after excuse for her…

  • Dismayed

    To the author:
    Words have meaning. Cyntoia wasn’t a prostitute…she was prostituted.

  • Rita Kay

    This was truly sad and it broke my heart to see how they charged a 16 year old little girl with 1st degree murder when she shot a grown man who had just bought her a $6 dollar meal, violated her sexually and talked to her about his life as if she was on his level. In America we do not protect our children we imprison them.

  • Melissa Ponce

    This was a truly heart breaking story. I can’t believe the jury found her guilty and she got life. She made a humanly mistake. How can they not see her situation. The man was a man not a boy but a 40+ yr old man why is he looking for sex from a little girl why take her to his house to be alone and not a hotel room. Why bcuz he had plans and she did what was in her best interest to protect her self. I’m sorry but she deserves a chance on a real life. I wish her the very best and I pray the justice system corrects the issues. All through out the video I saw her beautiful smile I hope she doesn’t give up hope. Her life isn’t over this isn’t it. I’m sure God has a better plan and I as a person who wants to become an officer feel disgust of what those 2 officers did. They should have known she didn’t understand what our Miranda rights are she was 16 how could she understand fully. But goes to show u how honest she was she had nothing to hide and that should prove a lot about how that night went. God bless her today, tomorrow and always.

    • Mr

      Right, they was cool for that… He got right what he deserved. Death

  • Frankie Figgs Torres

    A lot of ppl grow up in a hard kinda way and don’t kill. Maby a life sentence is to much but she should of been found guilty.

  • sparkles

    This is really sad. It really tugged at my heart. For those who say she could’ve broke up with him and listened to her mom’s rules. That is a very ignorant way of thinking and not even worth posting. Kids go for anything they feel is love. The lifestyle she lived made her think this was right. If you watch she was finding herself and realizing her mistakes when she was being evaluated by the psychologist. What teenager do you know that follows every rule. All kids break rules and make mistakes. That’s how they learn. She was just in some situations that she should never had been in. I feel for this girl. This was a cold hearted decision to put this teenager away for life. So many people gave up on her and she just did what she was taught. She was trying to survive. I’m sorry this happens and I hope she finds peace. Shame on everyone that was involved in putting her in jail for life. For those who say she should ve listed to rules and broke up with him. Watch it again or grow up.

  • Mrs.Minnie

    Thanks Sparkels would you do what you can to give this young lady a chance share within your community you do a little,I do a little we just might be able to turn the hand of justice in her favor thanks.

  • Mrs.Minnie

    I heard a saying that ” bad things happen when good men do nothing” each one of us making a comment in support of Cyntoyia let’s step out of our space let’s reach out to the powers that be and plead her case. No time for the nay sayers cause as we all know carma is a *+^&$#*&^. May all those in support be bless beyond your imagination the rest oh well .A real christian and not just cause I was born in the land of the free.

  • kimayah

    Every adult screwed that child.

  • Kenya

    I feel for this girl mehn my prayers n best wishes go out to her

  • Crystal

    What a lot of people fail to realize is that there Is a lot of psychological instabilities that are developed in children who come from broken homes, yes there are many people who have the same traumas as she did and don’t kill but not everyone has the same mental capacity to understand things and maturely make a decision that says I won’t do what my mother did to me. I’m going to walk away from that life style. You really have to have some outside influence to guide you some kind of hope. And unfortunately for her she didn’t. And I feel for her. It’s good that she now realized these things but for those of you saying maybe she deserves life, what you do as a child does not define who you are as an adult. That’s like saying people who drop out of school will amount to nothing for not finishing when some of the wealthiest people in the world didn’t finish hs. Just saying. I hope she gets out of prison and can start her life fresh.

    • Linda Agape Glaude

      I agree with you completely as I was one of those children. Abandoned twice by my mom at2 and again at14, lived on the streets from14 to 17. Sexual abuse was rampant in my foster home and my therapist ask me why I never turned to prostitution when so many did thinking foolishly that they were in control. My question to him was”how is that control?”
      Every child matures differently and why knowing this babies background would they imprison her? She needs help not incarceration,she’s been in a kind of prison all her life!

    • IMPACT1

      She was ADOPTED she didn’t come from a broken home.

  • Charlotte Walker

    If prostitution is illegal…why is this young girl in jail? She took a man off the streets that was doing illegal activitys and i highly doute at 16 she just decided to prostitute most clients are tricked….like now its days they call them escorts but do you know they do more then just escort somebody. Its dangerous and after the first male takes it too far you cant just leave your pimp or whatever this man was wont let you slip away that easy. She needs help she need love she need support she doesnt need jail. She was 16 he was 43 not only was illegal by holding any clients he had a minor client smh. Whatever judge s3ntenced her is a peace of shit

  • Ashanti

    It’s crazy how a 16 year old can get charged with murder for defending herself. The thing that gets to me the most is her saying ” I thought he was reaching for a gun” so she was scared and defended herself … & continuesly I hear about officers shooting and killing people and there reason is ” I thought they had a gun”, or ” I thought they were about to shoot me”, & “it was self-defense ” and blah blah blah and they don’t get charged , even with there being evidence of no weapon, even filmed evidence. But this 16 year old child gets life. Over REAL self defense . What’s wrong with the system !?

  • yanelle manuelle

    IF YOU THINK CYNTOIA’S SENTENCE N UNFAIR SIGN THIS PETITION

    http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/free-cyntoia-brown

  • Patrick

    Would any of you take her in? Give her guidance? At this point, after what she has seen and done in her life, would you invite her into your homes and help her?

    • Lady Tee

      I would.

    • Jimmie Galvin

      Yes I would

    • Mrs.Minnie

      With out a doubt!

    • Kingfree

      Yall all lying no u won’t take her ass in cut da Good Samaritan crap

  • bluecrane1

    The real crime here is that prosecutors get away with charging children as adults. If anybody needs to be in prison for life it’s the prosecutors that charge children and the judges that approve such reptilian behavior.

    • Gia

      They’re murderers !! Old enough to know right from wrong !! Do you want this killer living w you !? I didn’t think so !!

      • Toshica

        So how would you actually feel if you were in her shoes . How would you feel if you was in her situation. This was an 16 year old girl who has been rapped held against her will. Had a gun held to her head before. Have you been through half of the things she went through in her lifetime. Do you know how it feel to be abandoned . To feel like you have no one to turn to . I don’t think you do because you wouldn’t have made this comment. The real criminals are getting a way . The ones forcing young teenagers to have sex with them and sell theirselves . Do you have a daughter. So she does not deserve this punishment. How about they give you life in jail .

        • Newlife

          Thank you, I was wondering where the people with compassion went.

      • bluecrane1

        Has it ever crossed your mind that we have laws protecting adolescents for a reason?

      • Katherine

        Yes. If she lived with me I would protect her. Please look at all the facts. The 43 year old man that picked her up was behaving aggressively and threatening her severely. It was out of self defense.

  • Donald Johnson

    It is bad the way she was treated, but that does not give her a right to kill. She needs help & I,m hoping she gets it where they send her, but I doubt she will. And she should pay for killing. We cant have people taking the law into their own hands.

  • IMPACT1

    All I see is a bunch of people making excuses for her. From the very beginning of the ‘documentary’… then the excuses continue in these posts…

    • Michel Polnicky

      hey why don’t you find yourself a not so fresh roadkill and suck on it’s ass for a while it might give some grey matter that you obviously need.

  • NEWLIFE67

    I see comments that say she needs prison etc but the Arkansas kids that premeditated to killed those children In their school and succeeded went to a juvenile center… they could have tried her as a juvenile. I know children who can not be helped they are cold. I’ve seen them. This was not that, had it been so.eone she knew like that kutthroag guy etc maybe and she only shot once. She didn’t know the law she was not a criminal nor was she a theif. She confessed right away she was a kid backed I to a corner afraid of the unknown and had it been you,you would have done the same

  • Michel Polnicky

    Hell this little girl is a victim of her own life ”we” as adult’s destroyed her childhood what do ”we” expect…for her to be a productive citizen after all she went trough ? And then this happen’s are you surprised I’m not so what do we do…lock her up and trhow away the key to a life that should be.
    I’m a Canadien and this shit would never happen here, US think it’s not illegal yet in your country but you better start now you have a long road to travel…