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After having watched Penis Size Insecurity By Men, it’s now time to move on to lesson two and have a look at womens insecurities: The Perfect Vagina.

Fronted by Lisa Rogers, this documentary focuses on the rise in vaginal cosmetic surgery, specifically labiaplasty. For the uninitiated, labiaplasty involves cutting off the inner labia so that they don’t ‘hang’ below the outer labia. Ouch! The labiaplasty business has skyrocketed over the past few years, and Lisa’s mission was to find out why so many women hate the appearance of their vulvas to the point that they’d willingly have pieces of them surgically removed.

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    • stephen

      I think everything is beautiful in it’s own way .i also think that a visit to have a bit of psychotherapy or even a trip to Psycholgist might save some pain and what kind of Freinds would push some one to this extreme . After all how many people are really looking at your budgies.

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    • OMG

      WHAT HAS BEEN SEEN CANNOT BE UNSEEN!!!
      OMG JESUS CHRIST I WANT TO VOMIT
      SOME CHICK GETS HER VAGINA SLICED OFF

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  • Viewer

    I can say labia size is irrelevant to me – they all look good. But about 3/4 of the way through, Lisa Rogers’ reaction struck me as odd from a certain perspective.

    Consider this: What if women were having their big toenail removed, which some long distance runners do to avoid injury? I suspect the presenter would not be too upset about this. Yet, I suspect she would be very upset if women did it to be more sexually confident. Incidentally, some women do have labiaplasty because they are distance runners and large labia can hurt for them.

  • lady

    This is facinating! It makes me want to explore my own vagina. I’ve never paid it much attention……

  • jen

    Why bother? All vaginas look disgusting anyway, no matter how much surgery you have. 😛

    • Tim

      There is therapy available for your self-loathing. Vaginas are beautiful.

  • conoco77

    ‘Budgies’, Lol!

  • http://kundalini.yolasite.com Kat

    Ew.. The link that says “press play” is graded as having a LOW REPUTATION by WOT (Web of Trust).

  • http://www.infowars.com/ LickDaCat

    There is a huge difference between vaginas. I like clean shaven with pretty pink small to medium lips. I have noticed that some women turn dark as they get older, kinda nasty looking I think. The main thing is that they keep it clean and ready for lickin and squirtin. My wife is a tiny petite doctor 5’0″ 100 pounds who lived with a rich lesbian while going through residency. She taught me some new things on how to make women orgasm just like men do. No other woman ever showed me how to do that, or maybe they didn’t even know it was possible. Sometimes we just do oral on each other and it is the greatest experience. She was a clean little machine with the body of a 20 year old but 45 years old. What I found to be absolutely amazing is how tight and tiny her vagina is, it is tough to even get a finger in there without it being super lubed. She was one in a million, I tell her that all the time. She was born premature and had rickets for several years when she was young (Soviet Union) which I believe stunted her development down there. She also doesn’t need to shave her legs and her pubic hair is very thin but she keeps it shaved except for what I call her little Hitler mustache. :)

    • Amazed and Disgusted

      You are disgusting..You have totally missed the point of this film..It has nothing to do with your wife and how you fuck her..This isn’t a porn website where you can post your fantasies after watching a film full of vaginas. It’s about how women feel about their vaginas..You are an insensitive prick

      • Tristan

        I disagree with you, [Amazed and Disgusted].

        The tone in a semi-scientific documentary like thise one,
        (and forum) is a objective one.
        There is the hidden agreement between all involved
        that they primarily want to look at the topic as-it-is.

        In a this discussion about the value of vaginas,
        the contribution of [LickDaCat]’s personal experiences
        and feelings do matter.
        He offers a view as-it-is-to-him.
        He compares arguments as positioned in the documentary
        to his own feelings. He shares what -he- value’s.

        Yes, the language he uses to do so is not very delicate.
        And so what. Accept it.
        Look at what he says, not how he says it.

        Now, I think you incorrectly confuse his language with
        he saying that women are mere help-meat for men.
        But he is not saying that.

        Your tone is, in contrary to his, loaded with an irrelevant feeling.
        So, I mean here ‘irrelevant’ in this primary discussion.
        Changing the focus to an ad hominem always disrupts a conversation.
        For a succesful, objective conversation, that is always a weakness.

        In the realm of a discussion wherein the goal is to look at how-it-is,
        you hence need to keep your feelings about other
        contributors and their words to yourself,
        because nobody is (should be) interested in that right now.
        You can save that for a later, second discussion.

        Even íf his choice of words may sound like that of people
        who perhaps exclusively see sex as ‘porn’, and not as ‘making love’
        (asuming here that this angers you, and it does to me too),
        you did not ask him to confirm that. Mind reading.

        Similarly, if, in the second, separate discussion
        wherein [LickDaCat]’s personal values about women in toto
        are the topic, at least if he agrees to take part in
        that conversation, you would have asked him
        ” Do you see women exclusively as help-meat ? ”,
        and he would reply with ” No. ”,
        then you need to continue as if you assume
        that he speaks the truth.

        And if you question whether he speaks the truth,
        then that can be a topic of a third discussion.

    • Perry

      Hmmmm…..let me see:
      tiny, child-sized woman
      with hairless pubes,
      tiny, tight vagina
      so tiny and tight
      that it takes lots of lube just to get a finger inside..
      with “pretty little pink lips…”
      who previously lived with a (grown-up) bigger and more
      powerful (READ MOTHER FIGURE)woman who didn’t have “real sex” with her
      so she’s still clean…

      CAN YOU SAY PEDOPHILE????

      • Massie

        “CAN YOU SAY PEDOPHILE????”

        I can – unlike you who SHOUTS.

        And, I also can spell it correctly – paedophile.

      • http://[email protected] steve

        Just because you pecker is about the size of your pinky and your brains are not far from the same did not give you the right to right such pig thoughts i ever see on my block your get a red hot poker up ass to start with you poor demented person go see you doctor before it to late .

        • Jeavie

          “.. pecker” and “.. pinky.. “: What on Earth are you talking about?

          “.. did not give you the right to right such pig thoughts i ever see on my block your get a red hot poker up ass to start with you poor demented person go see you doctor before it to late ..” Oh, I see now: you are a semi-literate moron.

          • http://[email protected] steve

            i notice that you took such a interested in correcting my spelling and voicing your opinion that you forgot what the documentary was about and the time and effort that the people spent putting this show together” What did thing of the show “? what did you think of Perrys statements or are you perrys other personality . I was working for fourteen hours the time i wrote this note on September second and i was totally sicked by what i read and worried about epidemic that plague’s the children of North America and beyond . by the way a Moron is a medical term are you qualified to use it. ps opinions are like assholes everybody has one .

          • Jeavie

            Read the comment again … I did not correct any of your spelling. Your inability to understand the comment and your semi-literate ramblings are evidence that you are a moron. (Moron is not a medical term, although it was many years ago it has long been obsolete. It is however, an accepted commonplace expression used to describe a person exhibiting low mental capabilities, and therefore is ideal to describe you.)

          • http://[email protected] steve

            moron as a medical term denoting an adult with a mental age of about 8–12): from Greek mōron, neuter of mōros ‘foolish..’Urban Dictionary Pecker a dick. What more do you want me to say? pinky the littlest finger on your hand.who died and made you perfect

      • Tristan

        If women prefer men without beards,
        are they also paedophiles ?

    • Jim

      You are a weirdo. I hope you are never in the same room as me or my family.

    • skeptic

      You guys do realize that this was obviously written by a lesbian, right?

      • HotCaramel

        I bet they didn’t lol

  • Tankers2

    the only requirement for a perfect vagina is warm circulating blood in a clean enviorment.

  • Reasonable Doubt

    I think it’s a sad thing that this happens. And I also think it is a matter of education. What on earth can make a girl dislike her vagina? Personally, I didn’t find one I didn’t like. Why should it matter that some guy said something stupid about how it looks? There will be always a lot of other guys that might think it looks nice.
    I think that having an operation is too extreme. And it’s for no good reason.

  • Amazed and Disgusted

    WOW..Of all the things women get insecure about this is by far the most ridiculous. Firstly any straight man with an erection isn’t going to knock back a vagina with a little more labia then the “perfect” one. Secondly, if a man is going to discriminate a woman based on how big her flaps are he would want to have the most perfect penis imaginable. I would like to see a documentary on that!!I have seen a few penis’ during my sexual experimentation and I can only recall one that was aesthetically perfect. The older you get you just realise that everyone has imperfections and insecurities and you become more secure in yourself because of it.

  • silence

    i am totally sad about how she thinks about herself. i simply wanted to hug her & convince her about all these perfectionist views are illusional. there exists no perfect vagina, no perfect penis. people are born with their owns which suits them best. our bodies are the wombs of our souls & who are we to cut it,re-shape it and than saying; ‘now they are perfect, yuppie yayy, i can spread my legs without shame’. oh, that is sad. the discovery of femininity lays completely somewhere else. vagina is just a tool to illuminate the eternal pleasure of intercourse; the sacred union of male and female. to reshape the gate of this, just means to avoid the main course. i hope, these doctors read a bit more about woman psychology and go deeper within the subject.

  • Tammy

    I don’t see anything wrong with any of these labia .. not that we saw much of them by the way, I would have appreciated the documentary more if we’d been shown more of them, what they look like in all their variety..
    However, I must say that I feel rather disturbed at women thinking that they have to change how their labia look because of being laughed at .. We’re taught as young girls that our fannies are disgusting, mustn’t be touched unless we are washing them, and you can’t even call a vagina by it’s name. It’s no wonder we grow up to hate them. What does it matter what people think anyway? If I’m with a lover and he loves my labia, then he’s a keeper.

  • Bennie

    This is such a double standard. It’s standard fare for women to giggle about penis size, you hear it all the time. Yet a man making the perfectly rational claim that some pussies are prettier than others is sexist and evil? WTF?!!

    While I agree that it makes no difference to penetrative sex, it does matter when it comes to oral. An “innie” is just more visually pleasing. Sure, you’d be a freak if it was all you cared about, but in comparison to the amount of crap women talk about guys’ dicks (don’t even get me started on circumsion myths) I feel no guilt in having a preference.

    • http://profiles.google.com/friedtoast Michael M.

      > “An “innie” is just more visually pleasing.”

      You might want to add, “In my opinion” to the end of that sentence. That is your preference. I feel just the opposite. Thankfully we all have different tastes- helps ensure that all the men on the planet aren’t chasing after 1 single person. 

  • reesa

    Honestly. Society makes me sick. Humans make me sick. This film makes me sick. What the hell is the matter with all of you. Get a life and help somebody more unfortunate than yourselves. Do you realise most humans on the planet don’t even have access to clean water? Just because you are (un?)lucky enough to be born into a banal society – like the one that made this ‘doco’ – where the appearance of your box is more important than the real truths of the world, does not make your ridiculously banal life any more important, nor make the horrible realities of other’s no-banal realities disappear. Truly, truly pathetic. And no, I did not watch the whole ‘doco’. Even though I am an RN, it almost made me chuck.

    • Alan

      “Even though I am an RN, it almost made me chuck.” What has being in the Royal Navy to do with it?

      • Lily

        Um – try RN = Registered Nurse (at least that’s what it means in Australia)

    • ElaineK

      How can you be a RN ( assuming RN = registered nurse ) if society and humans make you sick. I am a nursing student, and the whole point of my future career is to help those who need help. I don’t understand how you could fulfill the duty of being a nurse if you hate people.

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  • budgiesmuggler

    fap fap fap fap fap

  • Jeavie

    Steve – all of your comments confirm that you have a low mental capability, including your most recent. Evidence of this, and so you being a moron:

    (i) Your inability to understand my first comment: your claim about spelling.
    (ii) Your persistence with the idea that moron is a medical term, despite you being advised it is obsolete although it remains in non-specialised, everyday language: a very small amount of research on your part would confirm this.
    (iii) The lack of punctuation in your commnents.
    (iv) The excpetionally low standard of grammar in your comments.

    • http://[email protected] steve

      Jenavie you sound like a frustrated lesbian or even a man hater. What give you the right to correct anybody it called freedom of speech and if you want to leave your two cent comment on this page .subject at hand “My perfect Vagina” not” my perfect comment” You Hoor’s Dropins and me i’am more on that off.

      • Jeavie

        Steve – I am neither a lesbian nor a man-hater. However, I do hold in contempt morons who post semi-literate ramblings and can not understand simple explanations from others.

        Also, as there is nothing in what I have written to suggest that I am a lesbian or a man-hater the only conclusion that can be made from these claims is that you are a misogynist & homophobe.

  • Anonymous

    Insecurity over your vagina? Yet another pathetic insecurity made up by silly insecure women. This makes me very sad.

  • Lily

    *Sigh* I’m not even going to bother reading more of the BS that has been put up as a way to vent.

    Anyone want to rant on how outrageous it is to consider that women still, in some countries, are subjected to Vaginal Mutilations (AKA Female circumcision) as part of a rite of passage?

    As for vaginal health and such, it might be worth noting that until it became compulsory for women to wear underpants (admittedly the fashions were including LONG gowns, and undergowns, etc as underwear) the gynaecological problems, aside from the complications of childbirth, were incredibly rare. Why? Because the air was allowed to circulate around the genitals.

    As a medieval re-enactor, it was only ever men, up until the late 16th century and into the start of the 17th century, who wore anything under their breaches.

    Perfect vagina? Please! There is no such thing. The best any woman can hope for, these days is a HEALTHY one.

  • Great Wall of Gina

    I never knew how my vagina compared to other womens’. This was very informative and I didn’t find any of the ones I saw in this documentary offensive to look at.

    I do wonder if women with a long labia flaps have any trouble with them during sex? Do they get in the way and cause pain? That would be the only reason I could think of for a woman to have surgery on her vagina– not for “looks” or for a guy. In fact, any man who gets to have sex with any vagina should consider themselves privileged and thank their lucky stars.

  • Steve

    I have a perfect vagina. My wife’s …

    • A1Skeptic

      And she has a perfect dick, you!

  • Murun

    Poor Rosie. Those amazing pretty lips she had removed for society’s convention. I personally think they looked lovely, then next thing the surgeon’s had them off. So sad girl! We should love and celebrate variety!!
    :o(

    • Bob

      I agree with you so much. I think Rosie’s vagina was incredible very sexy and very cute. Hearing this asshole doctor say yes this is too much really pissed me off(what a jerk)!

  • Priapus

    wtf is going on in here? Feminist bitches on their periods whining about men giving their opinion. Like no woman have ever judged some guys dick. so fucking hypocritial.

  • HotCaramel

    Many women would tell you different to make you feel good, but at the end we all know that SIZE is very important.

  • Devin

    I just can’t believe this…One one hand, I feel sorry for Rosie…on the other she did this to herself (the plastic surgery, I mean). I would never have that done and any Man (or woman) who had problems with my “Ladybits” would be asked to bugger off. Thank you for making this…more Women (AND Men) need to see this.

  • Joe

    I’m a guy and I must say honestly I do not understand this! I’m trying really hard to understand and I get that some girls feel insecure about themselves but really? This just seems to me very extreme. Nature gives you a body and you say no, it’s not perfect so i’m going to change who I am. Girls should understand that the best way to impress people is to be yourself, in and out. I’m sorry if i’m sounding like just a dumb man, i’m not trying to be. I honestly really don’t care about how a girl looks (even less about how her vagina looks).
    All guys are different, do not only listen to the big dumb guys with the loud voices, listen to the quiet men in the back of the room.

    I’m glad I watched this and I really hope that plastic surgery or any cosmetic surgery of any kind will stop. I want my world to be real, not covered up or with parts missing. I just wish I could go to every girl in the world and say “you look fine as you are”.

  • Matt

    I can not agree more with ^Joe’s comment. It’s the derogatory comments like the few disgusting ones above that are driving men and women to have surgery on their genitals and causing psychological damage. People put so much emphasis on size, looks, such shallow things. It’s like not buying your dream home cause the doorknob is a little rusty. What ever happened to inner beauty, love, compassion, and genuine attraction? Society is so caught up in materialism and outer looks, and too many people use porn as a reference point for sex. From when I first have sex with someone until the end of the relationship, not once does the thought of ‘Is her vagina ideal?’ cross my mind. Even before sex, it’s never about wanting to see how it ‘looks’, it’s all about the anticipation and excitement, the lust before love. Every man has a different penis and every woman has a different vagina. I’d rather have something real than something plastic and stripped away. Please keep your negative comments to yourselves, especially when it comes to the beautiful bodies that people are born with.

  • David

    What is worse is arranged marriages, and women having to be virgins, and not the men.

  • Apparently”normal”

    Wow. I’ve got to say, this documentary made me feel very uncomfortable several times, and for me, that means it did a great job of informing me and taking me places I’ve never thought to go. To the filmmaker – thank you for your work on this. To all the commenters – everyone has a point of view, everyone has a right to their emotions and their personal experience. Please comment without insulting others.

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  • TrueGirl

    This film MUST be broadcasted everywhere. Girls get a grip on your lyf!! Let us not be influenced by the porn movies and magazines. Those girls have to do those things to look appalling to pervs, YOU DONT NEED TO LOOK APPALLING TO PERVS OR ALL THE OTHER GUYS!! Your man likes you the way you look!! You think a guy will go to do plastic just to nip off a bit which doesn’t look good??? We girls are so obsessed by everything!! Keep it simple girls!! this is the best!!!

  • TrueGirl

    And my GOD, what about that guy talkng abt virginity!!! Being from an oriental community doesn’t mean one should be so Narrow-minded!! I am from an oriental community myself, and still I don’t understand the views of such creeps!!!! He just doesn’t give a damn about women!!!! He just want to have a rather comfy lyf with other girls before marriage and then expects a “clean” one to become his wife!!!! Hypocrite BA$taRD

  • Chris

    Its good for women to trim their vagina. This way they don’t look as disgusting and can make more money selling it. As the old wise saying goes: “What do you call a useless piece of meat around a womans vagina? You call it a woman.”

    • chris is a dick

      wow. i’m in total shock. you’re a pathetic piece of shit. a woman gave you life, you fuck. i hope a woman gets to take it one day. people like you don’t deserve an ounce of oxygen. a pure monster, through and through.

      • Chis is a dick……is a dick

        You do realise that you’ve just totally overreacted there don’t you? His crime was WRITING something, albeit quite nasty but still he has only written something on the internet and you think he deserves to die? What’s worse; a joke in bad taste or wishing death on someone? I put it to you, that it is you that is the monster! Chris isn’t! He’s just an arse.

  • Chris

    It’s interesting how the girl doing the show gets all moral and self righteous considering she is just doing this show to make money. So she is exploiting womens issues and judging their choices to make money and at the same time makes these women feel bad about their issues. Truly evil isn’t it? Noone sees it? Bullshit. Now days shit loads of people see it. She wants to help women? Bullshit. She wants to help herself! I bet this bitch would get it done too if she had an ugly one and the sponsor or director of her show didn’t like ugly ones.

  • Amy Tyler

    It’s obvious that Chris is some ugly dude who couldn’t get a date even if he had to pay for it. Maybe he’s ugly outside or maybe inside or maybe both, either way, what a loser. sorry, chris, you didn’t insult me or any other woman, you just made yourself look really pathetic.

  • Chris

    Thanks for that valuable feedback Amy. I appreciate it from a great classy psychotherapist as yourself.

  • Chris

    I’m sorry for the derogatory joke before. I really think that a woman is a crucial life support system for the vagina. It’s just better when there are no loose bits hanging off it.
    Notice how the journalist asks a question! When she says: “Do you care what vagina looks like?”, with a tone of voice like she is going to crucify you if you say yes, then guys say: “We don’t care!”. If she says: “What kind of vagina do you like? Would you prefer big and dark labia or small and pink labia?” They go: “Small and pink of course!”. So it’s obvious she forces both opinions to make some controversy for her show.
    Do you know how many interviews she conducted that are not shown in the show, because they would not support her fake point of view? Do you know how many people in the show said the stuff they said just because they got paid? The journalist says she will show that she is not all talk and gets a doctor to say, that some women with vagina like hers, still get a surgery done. Even if it’s true, notice that these women are single 19-21 year olds and the journalist is about 35 with a husband and two kids. Of course it’s easy for her to talk self righteous smack and be judgmental since no one cares about her vagina anymore and she has already built her family. Then they show a girl who says that she is so embarrassed that she would not show her vagina to guys and not even to her general practitioner. Yet the same “poor, shy girl” is not embarrassed to show her vagina to camera crew and the whole world.
    I hope that I have showed you how the whole show is a cold blooded, manipulated, money making scheme, designed to play on peoples issues and emotions. It’s the people like this journalist that cause womens issues, by advertising (in subtle ways), new trends like labiaplasty, in her show. Then they feed off the issues they have spawned. The next show she will make will be about some successful Hollywood star and how she has “courageously forged her good fortune with strong character and labioplasty”.
    People, including these girls, go through way harder things in life than a minor surgery, which takes three months to heel. And you expect me to be sensitive about this? Who should I feel sorry for and why?

  • Amy Tyler

    Chris, I’m not a psychotherapist. While I admit to having had my “head shrunken” a few time and having an ongoing interest in matters of emotions, self-esteem, moods and just our general “situation” in life I cannot claim any of my opinions are professional ones. But then I don’t buy into anyone’s “theory” just because it comes with a PhD or any other degree attached to it. My own theories have developed over a life-time of living and observing myself and others. I try not to make absolute statements as I think there are exceptions to almost everything.

    Watching TV, imo, is equivalent to putting a giant funnel on our head which empties into our brain any and all objects and information carried downstream from questionable sources. As such, I try to avoid becoming a mindless receptacle of whatever information someone else chooses to dump into it. With that said, I would point out that I did not view this video or any video with my brain set to “dull” and that I am well-aware that every one of us is motivated by the unknown, by our past, our experiences, our wishes, our failures, blah blah. It is rare to find a film or book that takes a completely noncommittal stance and fairly presents both sides or multiple sides or aspects of an issue or question. I have never made a film but if I did I’m sure it would be driven by my own personal agenda and issues just as what I write is motivated in the same way.

    Your observations about the sorting and censoring of the views and ideas expressed is more than likely quite accurate. I hope I don’t disappoint you by saying I was well aware of that possibility before it was raised by you.

    How well we accept ourselves on any level, whether its physical appearance, mental acuity, aesthetics, physical abilities, depth of emotion, whatever, is influenced by our background. Its bound to be influenced by the environment in which we were raised, the people who surrounded us, how we interacted with others, what were the perceived results of what we did and who we are with the people around us. Were we raised in an environment that encouraged raising questions or were we in an authoritarian world where we weren’t supposed to think, just do as we were told. Were people around us emotionally aware, were we encouraged to say how we felt or were expressions of individuality frowned on? How open-minded were the people we spent our time with, how old were they, did we struggle to make ends meet or were we raised in affluent surroundings. Did the people we interacted with reward us with love and kindness or with material possessions? Were we raised with an intrinsic belief in the dignity of all life or is it a “dog eat dog” world? What part of the country was home, was it warm or cold, sunny or cloudy and rainy? All those things and a million others affect what we do and how we think. So basically, yes, you are correct when you say that the author of this documentary presents a skewed viewpoint.

    At various times throughout my life I have had differing opinions about things that seem to have been influenced in part by my age and what I knew at the time. For example, I have a scar on my arm that I get when I was 5 or 6 years old, the result of a burn, which was the source of much sorrow and distress when I was younger. Part of my distress was the lack of modulation of others, kids mostly, who openly expressed a curiosity or interest or dislike of the scar, how I got it and so forth. I recall that eventually I made several attempts at persuading my parents to allow me to have “plastic surgery” to remedy the attention-gathering scar. I wanted to be like everyone else and blend-in, not stand out. My parents were of the belief that it would be foolish to spend money on something like that and that it was what it was. The could not understand the distress it caused me. For a long time I wished it was non-existent. Then I got another scar somewhere else which became my focus and I wished it away. Which is to say that eventually I have realized that fixing one problem may not be “the answer” as there is the possibility of another to take its place. Which over the years has evolved into “life isn’t perfect” in fact some times it sucks. I don’t focus so much on things like that but then I do view those as “minor” now. I would try to correct things though that I thought were of major importance. If I had something on my face that was overtly “weird” like a scar or an extra nose, say, (lol) I would do what I could to remedy that situation. As to things unseen like “vagina’s” (which are as far as I’m concerned a non-entity almost because a vagina is in one sense a “non-place”, the space between other things) I might or might not be concerned about mine (which I consider “mine” as relatively being normal but then I have never really “studied” it either). “It” might bother me if someone had ever been callous or insensitive enough to make uncomplimentary remarks about it. It would depend on where I was at sexually, if I was past caring about being intimate with someone then it wouldn’t matter much. If it presented a physical discomfort or disability I would probably place significant importance on getting it fixed. All of which is to say that today I might care and tomorrow I might not. But basically the documentary is poorly named as its not (apparently) about vaginas but about labia.

    It’s a shame, I think, that young girls are given “boob jobs” for their sweet 16 birthday present from their parents. But I confess as someone who was well-endowed in that regard who eventually had a breast-reduction with which I have always been happy to have had, that having personal knowledge of the “down-sides” of large I would be more supportive of downsizing than upsizing. The reason is because being too large can be physically encumbering for sports and so forth and just being “out of balance/proportion” whereas being small is just a matter of aesthetics. Now I am neither large nor small. I think I would have like being small because then I wouldn’t have to wear a bra at all (and sometimes I don’t now, I can “get away” with it). I hate bras, always have. I am not obese but if I were I would feel very motivated to fix it because of its physical limitations and societal effects.

    Blah blah blah, all of which is to say that my opinion today might be different tomorrow, that I am aware of this documentaries potential one-sided viewpoint, etc. Almost everything in life is presented in lopsided form according to the views of the day. Today women seem to have the upper-hand after divorce BUT NOT ALWAYS. Yesterday it seemed men had the upper hand BUT NOT ALWAYS.

    My problem with your overt criticism and hostility was that it seemed to be motivated by a dislike and a distrust of women and/or people in general and not based on any real knowledge on your part. But then that’s MY OPINION Which I was motivated to express on reading yours.

    We are all a series of actions and interactions with each other. We affect each other or not depending on the circumstances.

    You still seem to have very aggressive hostilities toward women, Chris. I can understand the possibilities of circumstances that resulted in you feeling that way because actually I have an innate distrust even tendency to dislike women overall because my experiences have been such that females are, overall, very selfish, competitive, vindictive, spiteful, conniving and untrustworthy. A FEW women seem to not fit that mold but overall its the views I have because of experiences I’ve had. So I don’t seek out female companionship or friends because I don’t feel comfortable with them. If someone else has different views good for them but I believe mine are right for me. Personally, I can’t imagine what total absence of intelligence would cause a man to want to be involved with more than one woman at a time because frankly, one would be too much for me. So while polygamy I think is seen as possibly an enviable dilemna by most men, it is, in my viewpoint more likely a vision of hell.

    So you see, everyone has differing viewpoints and that’s the way that is.

    As to the film, I did not watch it. Experience has lead to me distrust sites that ask for my credit card information “for verification purposes only” and so I chose not to watch though I am curious about how much is shown and how tastefully (or not). (Is there a tasteful way to display such private orifices?) I guess it depends on your viewpoint.

  • Chris

    Now, is it just my perception or what you are trying to say is that your aggressive reaction to my initial hostile comment about women and labias is motivated by the following factors:
    1) It’s negative towards women – (you are a woman)
    2) It’s negative towards women with self esteem isssues, based on their body type – (you are a woman, that had self esteem issues, based on your body type)
    3) Since you can relate to this, you did get insulted to a certain extent, even though you did not want to admit it.

    I believe you that you were not just trying to insult me back but also expressing your opinion. Yet, surely the main motivation was to hurt me in the most efficient possible way, based on your knowledge of the way personal issues affect people. So the logic here would follow something like that:
    “Chris is saying stuff that makes me feel bad. He seems to have some frustration and anger towards women. I must guess what the issue is, point it out, exaggerate it and cause Chris to be embarrassed, humiliated and feel emotional pain”. However the whole nature of your criticism is that: “Chris did a bad thing by being insensitive and hostile to someone else’s issues”. Do you see a bit of hypocrisy here or you were just trying to restore justice?

    My second post was still very negative towards women, yet this time most of the negativity was directed towards a dishonest, manipulative woman, selfishly exploiting other girl’s problems. In this situation you would relate much better to these girls with issues than the woman exploiting it. I have also mentioned the freedom of choice issue which coincidently approves some of the previous choices that you personally made. Your response to my second comment has an almost friendly tone. So how much of what you are saying has actually to do with my goodness/badness as opposed to your personal interest invested in an issue? It seems to me that not much.

    Now let’s assume that you are not a bad person, as you surely must think. Despite this, you would still not care about some abstract concept of fairness and would try your best to inflict the maximum amount of damage if this helps you to preserve your interests. So is there any reason for me to not play around with someone else’s weaknesses unless I’m interested to somehow cooperate with this person?

    As for males being polygamous, if you are as well versed in biology as you are in psychology then you should know that it is to a large extend determined by your genes. Sex is a gene mixing mechanism. A male of most species tries to mate with as many females as possible and a female chooses one or a few males to give offspring. Of course we are a bit more sophisticated than animals and have some control over our natural instincts, but criticizing a males urge to have sex with many women is like criticizing a woman’s urge to be a mother. However I’m not saying that in this case you were being critical. It did sound like a genuine attempt to help me a bit, perhaps with a little misunderstanding on your part of what it is like to be a male.

    As to the film, I did not have to enter any credit card details to watch it. It is fairly graphic. I’m not sure how you can measure if it is tasteful or not. A movie or porn can be tasteful or not :) This is the part where I’m supposed to start raging about how you have totally missed the plot and just want to watch some poor, innocent, naked girl :) The role of a good documentary is supposed to introduce the subject the way it is, without making it look any better or worse than in real life.

  • Chris

    Part 1
    Amy, interesting response. Now let me provide you with some feedback and clarify a few things.

    It’s good to see that you have some knowledge of psychology, can express yourself eloquently and can generally communicate with more than a few annoying, cliché, self-righteous, feminist phrases heard on Oprah, unlike the majority of female participants in this forum. You do bring up some good points and I would agree with about 95% of what you said. It’s also good to see that you are willing to share some of your personal issues. Well I guess you might as well do that, since we are talking about vaginas anyway :)

  • Amy Tyler

    Chris, I spent most of my childhood in a “warm and loving family environment” which was for the most part totally devoid of acknowledgment of or interest in how someone else was feeling. On the one hand, most people familiar with my family I’m fairly certain viewed us as “warm and loving” but then that is an outside view looking in. It did not feel warm and loving but then in order to know that you first have to find out what does feel warm and loving. It took me quite a while to see my family for what it was. Which is not to say that no one loved the other, only that whatever love there was or wasn’t was hard to find or see. It shows how judgmental people can be for I was told on more than a few occasions how lucky I was to have such a “fun” mother. Which caused me all sorts of difficulties because she did not “feel” fun to me, she felt critical and judgmental to me. So then I was left to wonder, is it me, am I somehow at fault to fail to connect with such a “fun” person. Or could it be more complicated than that? I learned to be very critical of myself as well which was surely no favor since I was already feeling overwhelmed by the same from my mother. Anyway, all these years later, though I have many personal faults and grievances with myself, a lack of honesty and an unwillingness to look at the truth is not one of them. I am quite open to the truth, or the search for it and I am also very open about how I feel. Which doesn’t necessarily help me connect very well with anyone if the same desire for openness and honesty are not a priority with them. In fact, sometimes it has caused me to be more apart because a lot of people are not comfortable with so much openness of expression, especially men who do not “share” well. But I can understand why men might be that way, they are not raised, overall, in an environment conducive to openness.

    Which is a lot of blah blah blah I guess way of saying that your judgment of me as wanting to make a criticism of what you said as emotionally as possible or devastating to you, its my way of saying those are your super-imposed perceptions and not the truth. I said what I said because it was the truth. I have no desire to inflict pain on you, grievous or otherwise. Then why did I criticize you? I guess because it was a vicious thing that seemed grounded in an overall hatred of women without allowing for any deviance, it seemed to declare women worthy of scorn and hatred no matter what. Like I said, there are few if any certainties in life. There are few if any absolutes. Not all women are bad. Not all men are bad. Not all people are good. I tried to explain or suggest why I have a dislike for women (because of their guile and apparent hidden motivations, and so forth, which I guess goes back to my youth spent in a home trying to figure out if I was in trouble or loved or liked or not. It would be so much easier if people would just say how they feel instead of having to guess.

    If I despised or hated you I would say so and I did not because I don’t. I would have to know you in order to hate you. It seems like you might have had some experiences that left you with negative emotions and a desire to “hurt” and wound and I wonder why or what they were.

  • InedibleHulk

    The simple fact of the matter is the perfect vagina can chew bubble gum and play the trumpet at the same time. And no surgery can give you that. Just hard work, dedication and a cheerful attitude. Then again, there’s no shame in being “just” satisfactory!

  • jerome

    As men may have an insecurity so women will have similar – it’s part of the rich fabric of human experience. We are mortal, we live for a short while and we all die and take ourbits with us, including the insecurites. Vanity is the preserve of the nervous rich, the concerned well and those who have little else to struggle with. A priority -no. Jerome.

  • Chris

    Ok, I’m willing to help. Please email me the photos of your breasts and vagina for an objective, reasonable male opinion. I’ll tell you if it is more likely to be a physical problem or a mental one. We can discuss the price for my services later.

  • Chris

    Hey Amy. How is your week going? Haven’t heard from you in a while.

  • Isa

    GET A GRIP!!!!! LABIA SURGERY…. MEN DON’T CARE.. THEY ARE JUST GLAD TO BE THERE… HYGIENE AND GOOD PELVIC FLOOR EXERCISES…. WOMEN.. MASTURBATE MORE.. LEARN TO LOVE YOUR BODY AND LEARN WHAT TO DO WITH IT TO HAVE A GOOD TIME…. GET A GRIP…

    • ShavenHaven

      OK THEN, WE’LL DO WHAT YOU SAID, HAVING MET EVERY MAN IN THE WORLD AND ASKED HIS OPINION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND RESEARCH IN FORMING IT. ALSO, stop fucking shouting.

  • Catch-22

    Lisa gets emotional about some of the women having surgery to make themselves feel better about the way they look. She does this whilst sporting near perfect makeup, plucked eyebrows and a stylish haircut. She is lucky to be very pretty, but fails to see the contradiction between what she is saying and how she is behaving. It is a shame that some people feel the need to do it for others, but I see doing this as no different then going to the gym, getting waxed, spray tanned, teeth whitened, or even wearing high heels. I agree it is more extreme and is very sad that some people are made to feel this way about themselves by society.
    It is great that the choice is there. If people really feel like they need it, then I am glad for them that they can do something about it. If you are going to question why people feel pressured, then at least don’t do it while trying so hard to hide your natural beauty with a ton of makeup.

  • http://aol mike

    I don’t know about you guys but I came twice watching this.

  • http://[email protected] Amy

    Mike, you poor thing, you must have a really boring sex life is this turned you on.

    My condolences.

  • http://[email protected] Amy

    Chris, you’re an opportunist, why didn’t I guess that?

  • Chris

    Amy they did have some sexy naked girls there so it would be normal for Mike to cum over it. Now considering that you didn’t watch the show and saying all this negative stuff because of your personal issues and inability to relate to men, don’t you think that even by your standards you just appear really pathetic?

  • Amy Tyler

    Poor Pathetic Chris, you just don’t think do you? And you are obviously conflicted. One day you’re halfway nice the next day you’re back to your mean ugly self.

    Just because I had not watched the film a week ago does not mean I haven’t watched it since then. Which I did watch it on another site. I thought it was weird her asking guys if they cared what their g.f. looked like.

    So you are obviously like a said, a bitter angry nasty person who likes sniping at people.

    Pathetic.

  • Amy Tyler

    It appears that Chris is struggling with his inner demons that just refuse to let him say anything which is not convoluted or hateful. Like I said before, poor thing is his own worst enemy.

    Well, if I got no BF currently its not so bad, at least I’m not stuck with someone like him.

  • Chris

    Amy, this video does show some attractive naked females so it would be normal for Mike to cum over it. Considering that you didn’t watch the video and writing all this negative stuff as a result of your own issues such as inability to relate to men, isn’t this true to say, that even according to your own standards, you are being truly pathetic? My condolences.

  • Chris

    Amy, oh I see you did watch it. So you didn’t get turned on by it? So noone else should as well? Don’t you see how everything you write is convoluted or hateful? You abviously like snipping at men because you can’t handle your own demons. So no surprise someone that pathetic would not have a boyfriend. May be you should get laid to cheer up. Seems like you might be too ugly for guys to hit on you even for casual sex. Try going for the drunk ones.

  • Chris

    I don’t see why I should be nice to a bitter, angry, pathetic person trying to attribute her own issues on other people and masking it as being honest. This is the definiton of pathetic and sad.

  • jonnybgud

    Jeez guys kiss and make up. Talk about losers – both of you are so inward looking and hogging this space for your own ends, it’s becoming more than a little nauseating. Take it offline you children. Folks let’s get back on track and let these kids on the make, make out elsewhere.

  • Chris

    Jonny I don’t see a reason why we would want to not hog this space to make things more convenient for you. If you find it nausiating get something from the pharmacy and try another forum.

  • Amy Tyler

    johnny, dahling, there’s plenty of room left for your comments so don’t be troubled, promise!

  • Amy Tyler

    Chris, dearest, you give new meaning to all the words you use like bitter, hateful and pathetic.

    I’m not the one who has attacked everyone here and I even tried to be nice to you but you’re just too twisted up inside to see that.

    Anyway, its all amusing to me that Chris seems to have parroting disorder. Telling him his thinking is convoluted only results in coming back at me.

    You’re beyond help Chris, unless you open your bitter and vituperative heart. You came here and your opening salvo was an vicious attack on all women whom you accused of being whores and that would be their motivation for getting their grossed out disgusting parts fixed.

    I’m afraid I’ve wasted my time chatting with you so I really must be on my way to someone not so pugilistic as you.

    Have a nice life loser.

  • Chris

    Amy, I say this because it’s true. Before you attempt to help anyone else you must help yourself. I do understand that every male you have ever been with has either been a looser like yourself or fucked and dumped you which made you very resentful. You would surely like a good relationship but things don’t work out for you. Hence your need to be so defensive (aggressive). You do whine about your pathetic problems to anyone who would listen but people don’t want to listen to your sad whining. Despite all the counseling and self help books that you’ve read and now try to pass as your own stuff you still remain a lost and narrow minded looser. I see you for what you are, a weak, neurotic, delusional, self-obsessed bitch, not what you are pretending to be.

  • http://n.a. Rui

    Hi … Chris and Amy: I’ll be delightfull to attend your
    very soon marriage.
    I’m sure you two will make a wonderful happy couple.

    Best wishes,
    Rui

  • Chris

    Thanks Rui, I was afraid Amy and I had a bit of a rough patch lately. As she is under the impression that she is a more positive person than me.

  • Victor Castillo

    Wow and I left the Comic Books to Movies forum because of childishness.Everybody has something so witty to say and they are automatic superstars in their own mind.Everyone is a Psychologist,Psychotherapist, a critic or something special and the world around them is rotting.Don’t get me wrong the world is rotting away but it is because of you internet wizards of oz wanna be’s.Spend a little more time cleaning up your act and your planet and less time polluting it with more garbage.The planet has become a wasteland and that is why you close your eyes to it and make your own little safe dwelling where you are God.What will happen when one day we no longer have these modern wonders.No technology,no electricity.My God someday we won’t have anymore Ipods or Ipads.Oh no what will we do.Can you start a fire with out a blowtorch?

  • Chris

    Good point Victor. Everyone should be a dumb ass like you and start fires with rocks to save the world.

  • Tegan

    I love my fanny, even after the doctor had to cut it to deliver my, now 6 month old son. Its been through the wars though, a fungel infection as well and thrush. Every woman is beautiful in her own way, but its the media that’s clouding our judgment, if your man wants you to get something fixed, well then he truly doesn’t like/love you then does he?

  • Miro

    You girls are crazy!!! to mutilate such a beautiful snatch!? I almost fainted infront of the computer watching the operation CRAZY!!!! I love big juicy pussy lips and think that most other men do as well.
    Its hard to believe how chickenshit women are in terms of standing up to themselves and not falling for the traps of advertising and what you “should” be like. I’ll tell you what is by far sexier that what a womens body looks like, its when she is comfortable with herself, whatever her body is like

  • moami

    It is just a hype, like all things. In Europa is has not settled in yet. Hopefully never will. What is the point of ‘perfecting’ your snatch, if you are not some porn actress? Seriously, is it just all about we look? And who is going to see our snatch anyway? Just our bf’s and husbands, so what is the point? “Well I am eighty years old, I am wrinkled to the bone, but hey I have got a porn snatch, just like out of the magazines!”

    This should be forbidden, cause it is the cause of insecureness for young women and it mutilates not only their fanny but also their perspect of the world. It is forbidden for religion purposes, but to ‘look’ more attractive it should be condoned? I am not sure what this world is about anymore. And hey jerk-off, isn’t it time you have your balls lifted? They are kinda saggy^^

  • MeggyWeggy

    That was certainly an eye-opener. I used to think I was the only person in the world with an ‘abnormal’ snatch, and because there’s next to no dialogue concerning the topic, I didn’t have anyone to ask about it. It’s becoming more and more important to discuss these things with girls.

    The ten-inch labia discussed there? I could understand reducing those on a functional basis – you basically couldn’t wear a swimsuit.

    The poor girl who got hers razored off ten minutes in? They were gorgeous. I couldn’t believe that…

    • Matt

      Meggy,

      It’s *10 centimeters* (not inches Luv)…Though the documentary doesn’t mention that someone has to stretch the skin flat, which it never is, in order to measure it. The range is so much as to be meaningless.. Esp. when considering that the labia is of soft, pliant, folded or wrinkled yet always lambent, fascinating, beautiful living flesh. Above all else: Natural (forget “normal” ~ it’s a fiction invented by advertising agencies to relieve you of your hard earned pay)

      We love you for exactly who you are. And it’s those cute little flaws that keep a guy interested and endlessly fascinated. None of us are perfect. Except when we can love ourselves enough to be able to love another….

      I hope any woman whose labia bothers them so much is wise enough to talk with friends, family a therapist in order to discover when and how such ideas first were thought, then obsessed on till they began to interfere in the most important relationship of all: the one with yourself. Why is it so important for you to conform to an idea of beauty that requires you to butcher yourself in the process? And the fact is surgeons have you sign about 8-10 pages of documents to protect themselves from the fact that complications happen. They only happen to one in 2,000 or 5,000 or 10,000 depending on the surgery. But do you like those odds? Because it won’t heal up in 3 months with bleeding despite sutures: instead the tissue necrosis causes a level of shock to a delicate area of the body that already weakens it’s ability to heal, requiring it fight off infections by bacteria, fungi, and so on… And in the worst case scenario the follow-up surgery for a complication on that scale would no longer be elective but mandatory — with a lot more tissue requiring removal in order to save the patient’s life from sepsis (blood poisoning).

      Some day conforming will be viewed properly as the ultimate cop out: It takes no imagination to want to be like Missus A or Missus B (and in the case of vaginas over the past 10 or 20 years this pathological idea of the perfect vagina has come from male-produced and directed old school raunchy porn with no heart and no soul though all the girls do have shaved pussies. I personally prefer my lover to look like a woman and not a child, but then I’m not a perderast. And why all this focus on tits, ass, pussies? Since one learns finally when one loves and is loved unconditionally that the sexiest organ is not any of the obvious candidates. It’s the brain and mind and spirit. I’ve had four significant relationships starting when I was 19 and now that I’m 41 I wouldn’t go back in time for anything. I’m a better, more caring, and conscientious partner and make love with more imagination than I ever could at 21.

      we all grow wrinkly in the end and give up these bodies that are just space suits with a life span of around 80 years, sometimes a hundred…

      If I sound upset it’s not at you but because watching the documentary made me so sad and disgusted with doctors who have no notion of the whole person and chose their speciality to get rich… parasites who prey on the psychology wounded in society. Careerists. Scumbags in Armani suits.

      Thanks to all the women out there: you’re all beautiful

      2 centimeters was the other end of the spectrum, though to every girl reading this I wish you knew how quality men (of which I have the good fortune to be friends with several … real stand-up guys who have never talked trash about a woman…as if she were a lab animal ready to be dissected.

      10 centimeters Or 5, or 2. I would hope that if a man produces a measuring tape it means a deal-breaker. No love for that is a fetish.

      • Matt

        too much cutting and pasting isn’t good for comments either… to finish the thought about my friends view of women and their bodies: we are worshipful of them – some of us too much. Yet a funny thing happens to most guys as they grow out of their teens and being young dumb and full of come. They begin to feel really ambivalent about dull old predictable porn. The easy availability of porn on-line makes it a rite of passage for 8-10 year-old girls to see the raunchiest sex acts performed by people with plastic bodies and dead eyes

  • fuckgreece

    I love PUSSY! tits and ass also 😀 + bitchez with pretty faces

  • Elizabeth

    Some people just have a distorted image of themselves and try to guess what the others like most and act upon the wrong reasons. It´s like saying men like big breasts. I date one that likes them small and know several that prefer them that way! There isn´t a rule in taste and we often have ideas in our head that are so out of reality. One of the things that´s so incredible in the human body is the differences each persons has. Each part of the body has multiple “configurations”. What´s normal? Variety is normal! Any doubts? Just browse through an erotic photography site like Met-Art and you´ll see each model has a diffente type of fanny. Some are pinkish, others have darker skin, small labia, puffy ones, large hanging lips, you name it! I find some prettier that others, it´s a matter of personal taste but who can say what´s normal or fits the beauty standards?

  • justcheckin

    these are just piss-flapps from homo- erectus ,the procedure was in factpioneered by a London surgeon in victorian England. These procedures were only available to the wealthy who did not need them ,eating p***y is only performed by the low classess,oral sex means fellattio.Women just seem to hate themselves over so much in thes end times.

    • Matt

      These are just piss-flapps from homo- erectus ,the procedure was in factpioneered by a London surgeon in victorian England. These procedures were only available to the wealthy who did not need them ,eating p***y is only performed by the low classess,oral sex means fellattio.Women just seem to hate themselves over so much in thes end times.

      You sound bitterly disappointed after finding out that this video didn’t involve hot girl-on-girl action involving those unhygienic “piss flaps” of the (it’s okay to spell it…it won’t bite you it’s just a word) p-u-s-s-y.

      To hear women blamed for the world going to Hell after 6,000 years of patriarchy is the reason why the worst thing that ever happened to Christ’s message of Love were people who insist on calling themselves “Christians” … They’re everywhere now, passing off their misogynistic message as Scripture. Had they or you taken the time to read from the Gospels you would be astonished to find little justification for what you know so well. How tiresome to hear the same veiled threat masquerading as piety. How dull.

      Oh: and fellatio is a blow job. For dicks.

  • sissi53

    Woo, Now I’m glad to be one of the generation that had the BIG advantage to feel and enjoy who or what we are and not living with the pressure of a sterile looking sterile thinking world that seems to rushing against everything that is natural. Eventually it all goes down to the difference between those with independent, analytical thinking and the majority of the stupid, Huh.

  • amazonbaby

    Since the labia, both major and minor, are filled with nerve endings and are a large part of women’s sexual pleasure, and visually, too, reading men’s comments here, cutting them off will only descrease sexual pleasure. Also, during sexual intercourse, when they are engorged with blood and swollen, they wrap around the base of the penis increasing the man’s pleasure. Cutting them off only decreases pleasure for both genders.

    • Dave

      So glad you made that point. Even if it was a visual turn off, it would never be worth risking damage to the very nerves that the enjoyment comes from! That would be like if I was born with an extra finger and I cut it off because I was scared my piano teacher wouldn’t like it.

    • Dave

      So glad you made that point. Even if it was a visual turn off, it would never be worth risking damage to the very nerves that the enjoyment comes from! That would be like if I was born with an extra finger and I cut it off because I was scared my piano teacher wouldn’t like it.

  • Madonna

    Made me feel heaps better after seeing this. Glad I watched it, but can’t say it has turned me off the idea of having my bits checked out by a surgeon. My husband says he reckons I’m good as before our children, I don’t know if he’s telling me the truth or just trying not to hurt me. I dont’ feel different inside (which is what I was expected after a few kids) but I reckon after my last child my lips aren’t as neat as they were before. No body tells you how much your body changes after children. I love my kids to bits, but I’ve gotta say, as a woman, I wanna go back to loving my bits too!

    Dunno, women and their self esteem….

  • Artuo Vasquez

    Dear Lisa Rogers,

    This isn’t a documentary about YOU. Christ, you you you and your maudlin, self-important, obnoxious presence basically ruin this documentary about a serious and interesting topic.

  • []D[][]V[][]D

    They all look great with the lights off. =P

    • http://profiles.google.com/friedtoast Michael M.

      They all look great with the lights on.

  • http://yahoo.com Hipolito M. Wiseman

    I have a lingering doubt about this content, http://newbreastenlargement.com/get-natural-breast-enhancement-without-surgery/ , could you give your thoughts about it? Good document btw!

  • gert.

    this could have been a GREAT documentary. very interesting subject matter, especially in terms of the larger picture of plastic surgery. but unfortunately, this felt way too self-indulgent. more subject matter, a deeper look at pressure on women historically, and less close ups of the narrator would have gone a looooong way.

    did not buy this as a personal crusade to change women’s minds. instead, more of “aren’t i risque by talking about this subject matter?” and “look how my hair catches the wind while i ruminate on my personal history”.

    • Guest

      Gert, why do you go do the documentary the way you want to, and allow this author to do it the way she wants to without being bullied about it?  Geez such negative retarded behavior.

  • jonnyb

    Cosmetic surgery can be used to enhance appearance and self-esteem. But it can also be used to enhance function. For some women, having enlarged inner genital lips (labia minora) can be functionally or emotionally bothersome. Age, childbirth, hormones, and sexual intercourse can cause enlarged labia, or it can occur naturally. Local irritation and problems with personal hygiene can interfere with sexual intercourse and cause discomfort during other activities like cycling, walking or sitting. Labiaplasty is a cosmetic surgery procedure that offers women a solution.Labiaplasty surgically reshapes or reduces the external appearance of the vagina. This is done to enhance a woman’s vaginal appearance and sexual gratification.

    With the increasing popularity of various cosmetic surgery procedures, including labiaplasty, it is important that the prospective patient research and understand different issues like what the procedure can and cannot treat, inherent risks, costs, and other factors. Keep in mind, cosmetic surgery is just that – a surgical procedure whose results cannot simply be erased.

    Cosmetic surgey performed on the genital area and the reasons predicting its use is as for any other cosmetic surgical procedure. It is a personal choice and should be allowed as such without undue criticism or judgement. Whether for reasons of beautification or improving function, labioplasty is here to stay. Labioplasty for reasons of patriarchal domination and control is an altogether different proposition and should be in discussed in that light. An informative site is: “Vulvar Care. For A Better Vulvovaginal Health”. https://vulvarcare.wordpress.com/

  • Rex

    i understand it might be a touchy issue, and nothing against the girl. but the 16 year old with the formally huge vulva in my opinion was right to get it removed. Maybe its my stereotype or the image thats been created as perfect in my head. but that vagina is not it. sometimes maybe, its for the best. .. unfortunately

    • Guest

      Ugh.  Rex you make me sick.

      • DuRv

        ugh, that HUGE VULVA made me sick.

  • mole

    A couple of comments:
    First, blaming men for driving women to this horrible surgery is crap, as the documentary itself shows so clearly. Early on, Lisa visits her bikini waxer, a woman, and asks since she’s seen so many vaginas, has she ever noticed some are unattractive. The wax-lady answers that she HAS seen some that were quite strange (sorry I don’t remember the exact word she used.) She then added that she had asked her husband and said to him, “Mine is quite pretty, isn’t it.” Lisa Rogers and the waxer shared a girly giggle over that one. I was so surprised at that. Why did I think someone in that line of work might be more accepting of the female body? And not a critical snotty bitch.

    Second, that poor girl who had that awful surgery, which Lisa chose to exploit for it’s shock value, was tormented about the appearance of her vagina by her sister. Her sister.

    Third, Lisa who has a plaster cast of her vagina made but oh-so-coyly doesn’t show us. That’s fine. I really didn’t care to see it, but to claim some right to that privacy while exploiting a girl who CLEARLY has real problems and showing her vagina being mutilated on camera was repulsive and unforgivable. That poor kid. And poor me! I imagine Lisa made the decision to show that horror to educate us stupid people, to shock us into being nicer to each other’s vaginas or something like that, but please. That image was extremely disturbing and I wish, seriously, that I had not seen it. It wasn’t necessary. I just don’t see how showing something like that is going to make anything better. It was demeaning and painful for everyone. Even damaging. The image was so violent and shocking that for some, it may be indelibly associated to thoughts and images related to the vagina. Is that what you meant to do? In your celebration of womanhood?

    At the VERY LEAST you should have warned viewers. People like Lisa Rogers may not believe it, but there are many people, like me for example, who would believe the warning and NOT WATCH that part. I know there are horrors in the world. I do not need images of them all burned into my brain. It’s one of the ways I look after myself. Lest I become a shallow unfeeling exploiter of other’s misery and pain and shredder of dignity. The kind of person who slows down at accidents to get a better look and hopes for blood and disappointed when there isn’t any (though never admitting it) the kind of person who evedrops on couples arguing, you know, an insensitive bitch.

    Besides my dear, a creative person can find ways of showing the horror of something without resorting to such cheap shenanigans. If you are interested in examples I can give them to you, from documentaries and other films.

    I feel better now after writing this. I really hope Ms. Lisa Rogers sees it although I don’t expect her to be moved.

  • Rachel

    I have never seen anything like this. I just wanted to say, that when I was only about 10 or 12 I me and one of my friends were “comparing” and I noticed that my vagina had some excess skin between the lips where my friend’s. It made me self-conscious, I asked my mother (a doctor) if this was normal or if there was something wrong with me. She told me that there was no medical need to remove it, but that if when I was older, it continued to bother me it was my choice whether to remove it or not. Since then, it has always bothered me a little bit. My friend who was there mocked me about it a lot, sometimes publicly. This is a real problem… even for 10year old girls.

    • Molly

      I feel for you. You have a real tough time. You’re becoming a woman and it’s terrifying and you did the right thing to share your experience as Mom’s find it embarrassing talking about sexuality with their children ~ not to mention the other way around. Hence the answer given by your Mom sounds like it didn’t resolve anything but only deepened your worry.

      As someone who was ridiculed for my clothes, hair, boobs, weight, and finally told by one friend who I worshipped that I was “ugly” and she couldn’t be friends with me any longer I empathize with you sweetheart. You do have a problem. It isn’t your vagina having “excess skin” (some of the most sensitive and important skin on your body – it protects you from bacteria, fungi that causes yeast infection, and when you become sexually active it will enhance the experience for you and your partner ). Your problem is that you are being abused by someone who doesn’t deserve your friendship and suffers from jealousy of you, self-hatred, and is a very sad sad person I deeply pity.

      P.S. I bet you’re shaking your head since that’s what I would have done had I access to the Internet. Thank you for being so brave and courageous to share your experience. Having been ridiculed myself & experiencing total self-loathing I can assure you that it gets better. Much much better.

  • Anonymous Beef Curtain

    I whip my beef curtains back and forth. I whip my beef curtains back and forth.

    • Shay

      lmao. best humour in here.

  • Anonymous Beef Curtain

    I whip my beef curtains back and forth.

  • tiernan

    Wow, fully mature women making a conscious decision to remove their labia (the equivalent of the male scrotum) is such a crazy and unfathomable idea! But the removal of the foreskin (circumcision) which constitutes 2/3s of a males entire nerve endings in the penis (two thirds of sexual pleasure) is a perfectly normal thing!

    Humans, especially the women who complain about this crap, that think the foreskin should be removed purely for aesthetic reasons are the sickest people to walk the earth.

    • Lookmichaeljackson

      Hmm… I think you’re missing the point with the first part, although I do agree people have the right to make these decisions. The issue at hand is there are girls like Rosie who are bullied and psychologically driven to feel abnormal and feel this is the only way to be accepted… even though she is completely normal. I am one of these girls, and I am fighting to find confidence. Right now, I feel empowered. 

       If she had decided to get cut out of personal preference for her to have a smaller labia, it would have been okay. But she clearly was scarred by her experience. Yes, she made the decision and is old enough to… but are we right to ignore the root of her decision? I don’t think it’s unfathomable, it’s just upsetting.  If a documentary like this can help a girl feel more secure and empowered, why not? I liked it.  Who said anything about circumcision?  Most males who were circumcized were done so at a very young age (usually for religious or health reasons) where it can’t be remembered, thus bullying and such means nothing. 

      My heart does go out to the males who have to deal with issues of circumcision and aesthetic insecurities. I wish there was more awareness about that and many other issues.  I can empathize. But why blame and cast a negative light on this focused documentary that certainly has helped many feel better? 

  • Teague

    This presenter seems to enjoy the camera…she must of cried 5 times, its all about her.

  • jonny

    It struck me a long while ago that this discussion was very silly. The point I was trying to make earlier was that whether you exercise your right to cleave off your labia is a personal decision and if it is predicated on aesthetic reasons so be it. In pornography there does not appear to be any discrimination or unpleasantness about large and/or protruding labia – in fact, if anything, the bigger they are seemingly the better. So i don’t really understand where the pressure on girls is coming from to reduce their labia – not from boys, who you would believe from the stats would be much influenced by the porn they watch! So I wonder how big the issue is really? Has it been blown out of proportion in order to justify the making of a programme which is at its basest voyeuristic and wholly commercial – ie it is meant to sell and make money for the film makers incl. the lovely Lisa.

    This discussion for these reasons is really very silly.

    • Guest

      Jonny, as a woman i can say you have no idea what you are talking about.  It is a real fear, a real self-hatred that women go through.  I did at one time but no longer. I looked into labiaplasty and boob jobs.  Now I just love and accept myself.

  • warren

    i don’t like the way the film is blaming the media and maybe men for women wanting to do this, even tho i agree that thats the reason. im saying what about women who want guys to have big dicks, and big wallets- wheres the balance in this film. i’m happy with my own equipment, i just read it a lot in agony columns.

    • Jill

      if I cared about money I wouldn’t be supporting you W, and I love cock just the way it is … it’s those cute flaws that keep a girl interested ….

    • Anonymous

      She didn’t blame men: she asked her male friends and they said what I thought they would: they didn’t give a shit. As long as you’re healthy and clean, the few men who have access to your private parts will love them if only because you gave them access. Men may care for a pretty face or hot body, but about the v-looks? I think most of them don’t give a damn.

  • Brooke Rae

    You two fight like a married couple.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve watched this documentary numerous times and while I agree with the message, and the fact that longer labia are completely normal and commonplace, I still think it is a personal decision that should not be met with judgment from either side. I made the decision to go through with labiaplasty because it is something that has always bothered my, both physically and emotionally. It has nothing to do with any outside influence, but with my own personal feelings. I don’t feel that I should be looked down upon for doing something that made me feel infinitely better about myself and has no effect on anybody else. My body, my choice. I also don’t like how it is made to seem that opting for labiaplasty is an indicator of some deep psychological issue and what the girl really needs is to learn to love and accept herself for who she is, because that is just not the case. I have suffered with this issue for years and I have absolutely no regrets. I think making a girl feel bad about choosing to have her labia reduced is just as bad as making a girl feel bad for having overly pronounced labia. It’s no different than any other elective surgery and despite what many people think large labia can be a source of great physical discomfort, and the surgery is not always done for purely cosmetic reasons. If you like your large labia, good for you, but I didn’t like mine and as a grown woman I have the right to make that choice without made to feel like I committed a ghastly error.

    • jessica

      i agree. it irked me how she was all “it was too late for me to save her” in regards to the girl who got the surgery. excuse me, what? it was her choice and it made her happy so i don’t see what the issue is. worry about your own vagina and let other people worry about theirs. i have no problem with spreading the message that there is no such thing as a normal vagina but she takes her fight too far to the point of it being almost condescending.

      • Anonymous

        It was her choice and a stupid one. And she would have been happy without the expense, the piece of flesh being cut, and the painful and bloody aftermath of the surgery, if she had known how to laugh at other people’s jokes. She had surgery where no one could see it because she let peer pressure make her unhappy. So, people have a right to destroy their lives for invented problems, but other people have a right to shout out loud that they find it stupid.

        I don’t mean other cases. I mean the exact case in this documentary. “My sister made jokes and the friends made jokes” is NOT a reason to have surgery, period. Is it her choice? Yes. Should everyone respect it? Sorry, no. People should have a personality that allows them to stand jokes without getting so depressed that they need to have pieces of their body cut out to solve it.

        The surgery didn’t make her happy. The surgery removed the unhappiness the taunting caused her, because her mind wasn’t strong enough to endure them. That’s not a good signal. And the surgery wasn’t a good choice.

        • Dave

          I have to wonder about the context of these jokes. It seems like having a surgery validates their asshole comments and, even worse, furthers the ridicule. And anyway, her snatch was beautiful before the surgery! Her new scruched lips won’t drag on the receding member and there went my biggest turn on.

          • dragsontherecedingetc

             it dosn’t validate all the sexual fantasy gaffs either

        • Dave

          I have to wonder about the context of these jokes. It seems like having a surgery validates their asshole comments and, even worse, furthers the ridicule. And anyway, her snatch was beautiful before the surgery! Her new scruched lips won’t drag on the receding member and there went my biggest turn on.

    • Miralusia

      Excuse me? Sorry, but the girl who had labioplasty had had it done because her sister and friends had laughed at her. If she had looked at her vagina in the mirror and had found it disgusting or uncomfortable, it would have been her decision. But it all came because the girl had no self-esteem. Paying a lot to undergo a painful procedure to cut a healthy bit of your flesh that no one else can see is a mark of having dangerously low-self esteem. I’ve heard that before: “people laughed at me because I was a virgin, I had sex with the first one that came round”. “People called me fat, I became anorexic”. The next big thing will be “People laughed at me because I had two eyes, but I paid 2.000 pounds to take one out and now my self esteem is so much better”.

      Sorry, but that should end. There’s a whole big difference in doing things for yourself (as in, your vagina got loose after a few pregnancies and you want to enjoy sex back), and doing them because your sister laughed at you. That girl made a wrong choice because she couldn’t stand people laughing at her, and that’s just plain wrong. I don’t know why you made your decision, but in the case of the girl in the video, it was a wrong decision because she did it forced by peer pressure, and that should never happen.

      And yes, she had a right to make that choice. But yes, she DID commit a ghastly error, and we must point that out. If you pay a lot to cut a healthy piece of your flesh because you can’t stand jokes, yes, you made a horrible error. I don’t mean you personally, I mean every person who decides to cut pieces of his or her body instead of strengthening their minds and resolve. It is a horrendous situation and I’m sorry if you didn’t like the interviewer pointing out at it, but she was right in doing so.

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  • reaver

    I’m a man and I’m straight so I’ll just say it this way. While my personal preference is a little neater, I also believe it’s all good in the end. And although I did find the documentary interesting, I feel that if a woman isn’t happy with what she originally given it is her privilege to change it. It happens every day. And if you have a problem with that, grow up and get over it.

  • Jacqueline

    I have pertruding inner labia, I have thought about labia plasty.. I looked at the photos and never thought that the end results looked any better then the pre surgery vulva.. I would rather have my lips naturally stick out a bit then have them scarred and scrunched up… they look like a scrunchie afterwards. However, I have puffy outter lips, so my just tuck in more less, they are not uncomfortable.. sometimes when i wear a bathing suite you can tell that I have a fleshy vagina.. what Jamaican/black men refer to as a “Meaty Poom-Poom” which in that culture is an ASSET! Girls if you think that your vagina is too meaty, maybe your mans penis is too skinny. lol Anyways, everyone is different… if we all looked the same, then men wouldnt find YOU attractive, cause you would look like everyone else,.. you would be a “TYPE” instead of yourself. I LOVE the message of this video.. I will be showing this video to my class, I’m a Child and Youth Counselor for at risk teens and i found this video to be brilliant.
    I dont think that Lisa was “acting” for the camera, maybe a bit.. but I know that this bio made me cry, sick to my stomach, happy.. liberated, sad again… so many emotions, she witnessed it first hand how could she not.

    I do think that the surgery is ridiculous, I still think about it.. BUT I was born this way, I didnt fuck 100 guys to make my pussy look this way and i did not STRETCH my labia, I didnt do any of the things that Ignorant people assume is the reason for this, I was born this way, just like I was born with freckles, i wont bleach my skin, i was born with green eyes, i wont wear blue contacts, I was born with a bit of a flat butt i will not get ass implants.. and YES there ARE psychological issues behind plastic surgery.. of course. Psychological refers to your Psyche … if your brain .. your thoughts are making you feel unhappy, sad, uncomfortable with any part of your body, you can also CHANGE your psyche!! anyways that is all.

    • Hhhh

      Noone is born with freckles.

      And i call it a meat-curtain

    • Dave

      Do Not be ridiculous! You are so right about the scrunchie look. The thing is, everybody has insecurity. And everyone has preference. Some will never admit one, and some will always brutally state one. I found it really interesting how parallel men and women can be as she found the remarks of the painter sexist. I had my fireman’s helmut pierced years back and although it improved my sexual enjoyment, I would never recommend it to anyone. I had no idea it would change sex for me when I decided to do it. It was purely an insecurity of how I perceived women would feel about the boss. I’m still baffled by how I could have felt like that and I’m still really bad at making logical decisions. It’s just who I am everyone has their struggles, but the psyche is funner to play with than any sharp objects. On behalf of any man you may encounter, who may share MY preference, it can be a huge turn on! Don’t go changin! When I was ignorant, I assumed the scrunchie thing was the result of 100 guys (who were more endowed than me, which is the root fear).

  • Jacqueline

    I have pertruding inner labia, I have thought about labia plasty.. I looked at the photos and never thought that the end results looked any better then the pre surgery vulva.. I would rather have my lips naturally stick out a bit then have them scarred and scrunched up… they look like a scrunchie afterwards. However, I have puffy outter lips, so my just tuck in more less, they are not uncomfortable.. sometimes when i wear a bathing suite you can tell that I have a fleshy vagina.. what Jamaican/black men refer to as a “Meaty Poom-Poom” which in that culture is an ASSET! Girls if you think that your vagina is too meaty, maybe your mans penis is too skinny. lol Anyways, everyone is different… if we all looked the same, then men wouldnt find YOU attractive, cause you would look like everyone else,.. you would be a “TYPE” instead of yourself. I LOVE the message of this video.. I will be showing this video to my class, I’m a Child and Youth Counselor for at risk teens and i found this video to be brilliant.
    I dont think that Lisa was “acting” for the camera, maybe a bit.. but I know that this bio made me cry, sick to my stomach, happy.. liberated, sad again… so many emotions, she witnessed it first hand how could she not.

    I do think that the surgery is ridiculous, I still think about it.. BUT I was born this way, I didnt fuck 100 guys to make my pussy look this way and i did not STRETCH my labia, I didnt do any of the things that Ignorant people assume is the reason for this, I was born this way, just like I was born with freckles, i wont bleach my skin, i was born with green eyes, i wont wear blue contacts, I was born with a bit of a flat butt i will not get ass implants.. and YES there ARE psychological issues behind plastic surgery.. of course. Psychological refers to your Psyche … if your brain .. your thoughts are making you feel unhappy, sad, uncomfortable with any part of your body, you can also CHANGE your psyche!! anyways that is all.

  • Mrs. Glam

    She talks about vagina liberation and being proud of what you have, but she doesn’t show her own in the film. She plasters most other featured women’s bits across the screen, but pretty much keeps her’s censored. Pretty odd. Practice what you preach, lady!

    • Shufflebunny

      She’s making a documentary. She’s a presenter and an actress. She’s not a porn star. Why does anyone need to know what her vagina looks like? You don’t have to show everything you’re proud of to prove you’re proud. She shares her bits with her partner-does anyone really need to see? Those people have volunteered to expose their vaginas. She volunteered to narrate their stories and reflect on what she learned. How ridiculous would it be if in order to prove I was proud of myself I had to expose myself to everyone who wanted to look. Be practical.

    • Shufflebunny

      She’s making a documentary. She’s a presenter and an actress. She’s not a porn star. Why does anyone need to know what her vagina looks like? You don’t have to show everything you’re proud of to prove you’re proud. She shares her bits with her partner-does anyone really need to see? Those people have volunteered to expose their vaginas. She volunteered to narrate their stories and reflect on what she learned. How ridiculous would it be if in order to prove I was proud of myself I had to expose myself to everyone who wanted to look. Be practical.

      • Shufflebunnyisamisogynist

        you’re a cretin. are these other women ‘porn stars’? no, wait. you’re a hypocrite and a cretin. well played. think before you post; ‘be practical’.

        • indieisin

          Take a fucking chill pill. 
          Shufflebunny is stating the obvious, the obvious being that the only people generally required to appear naked on screen are porn stars. When someone questions why an actress is not showing her vagina, the only place that kind of criticism would hold up in an argument is in reference to porn.What I don’t see is any reference to the other women in this documentary being porn stars.. did you even finish reading the comment before you started to rage? “Think before you post”..Really?! How about you follow your own advice and stop wasting people’s time with your ignorant psycho babble. “Be practical” and go do something productive.. get rid of all that misplaced hate and go protest with the folks over at Occupy Wall Street, maybe take an anger management class or two..

      • Shufflebunnyisamisogynist

        you’re a cretin. are these other women ‘porn stars’? no, wait. you’re a hypocrite and a cretin. well played. think before you post; ‘be practical’.

      • Pissonmyface

        Cretin. Typical female “logic”.

      • Bigcat

        Buggger this hair business, hairs get tangled in my teeth

    • Dave

      Excellent point! I didn’t think about it until I read your comment, but for someone trying to make the case that your insecurities don’t matter, she seemed very insecure exposing herself the three times she did in the film all be it not to the camera.

  • Mrs. Glam

    She talks about vagina liberation and being proud of what you have, but she doesn’t show her own in the film. She plasters most other featured women’s bits across the screen, but pretty much keeps her’s censored. Pretty odd. Practice what you preach, lady!

  • Mrs. Glam

    She talks about vagina liberation and being proud of what you have, but she doesn’t show her own in the film. She plasters most other featured women’s bits across the screen, but pretty much keeps her’s censored. Pretty odd. Practice what you preach, lady!

  • Blown Away

    Why mutilate yourself to fit a standard? I just don’t get the level of insecurity these women are displaying. Who hasn’t been laughed at/ picked on for this and that? Should we run and have surgery every time some fuckwit has something negative to say about our bodies? This is so sad that we’ve come to this. We’re all going to look one way one day: wrinkled.

    This will probably fall on deaf ears to many people but men, ladies…. if someone wants you to go under knife for any reason other than that it will save your life (or at least improve the quality of it) they do NOT love you.

  • Blown Away

    Why mutilate yourself to fit a standard? I just don’t get the level of insecurity these women are displaying. Who hasn’t been laughed at/ picked on for this and that? Should we run and have surgery every time some fuckwit has something negative to say about our bodies? This is so sad that we’ve come to this. We’re all going to look one way one day: wrinkled.

    This will probably fall on deaf ears to many people but men, ladies…. if someone wants you to go under knife for any reason other than that it will save your life (or at least improve the quality of it) they do NOT love you.

  • Blown Away

    Why mutilate yourself to fit a standard? I just don’t get the level of insecurity these women are displaying. Who hasn’t been laughed at/ picked on for this and that? Should we run and have surgery every time some fuckwit has something negative to say about our bodies? This is so sad that we’ve come to this. We’re all going to look one way one day: wrinkled.

    This will probably fall on deaf ears to many people but men, ladies…. if someone wants you to go under knife for any reason other than that it will save your life (or at least improve the quality of it) they do NOT love you.

  • Blown Away

    Why mutilate yourself to fit a standard? I just don’t get the level of insecurity these women are displaying. Who hasn’t been laughed at/ picked on for this and that? Should we run and have surgery every time some fuckwit has something negative to say about our bodies? This is so sad that we’ve come to this. We’re all going to look one way one day: wrinkled.

    This will probably fall on deaf ears to many people but men, ladies…. if someone wants you to go under knife for any reason other than that it will save your life (or at least improve the quality of it) they do NOT love you.

  • Blown Away

    Why mutilate yourself to fit a standard? I just don’t get the level of insecurity these women are displaying. Who hasn’t been laughed at/ picked on for this and that? Should we run and have surgery every time some fuckwit has something negative to say about our bodies? This is so sad that we’ve come to this. We’re all going to look one way one day: wrinkled.

    This will probably fall on deaf ears to many people but men, ladies…. if someone wants you to go under knife for any reason other than that it will save your life (or at least improve the quality of it) they do NOT love you.

  • Emily

    I wish that she would have talked more about waxing and hairless vaginas. because I’ve felt pressure from guys to shave down south, but I get really TERRIBLE razor burn, and not just there, on my armpits and legs too, so i wish she would have talked more about that, i have decided not to shave down south because it physically hurts, and it makes you look prepubescent, which surely says something about guys that dislike hair……i just hope that someday i can find another guy who won’t want me to shave, i think that if he loves me for me, then he won’t have a problem with my hairy pussy.

  • Emily

    I wish that she would have talked more about waxing and hairless vaginas. because I’ve felt pressure from guys to shave down south, but I get really TERRIBLE razor burn, and not just there, on my armpits and legs too, so i wish she would have talked more about that, i have decided not to shave down south because it physically hurts, and it makes you look prepubescent, which surely says something about guys that dislike hair……i just hope that someday i can find another guy who won’t want me to shave, i think that if he loves me for me, then he won’t have a problem with my hairy pussy.

    • Bavwill

      Stick to guys (or a guy) that don’t mind

    • cptstubing

      Emily,
      Shaving gives me horrible razor burn, but sometimes I can avoid it somehow. Aloe helps, also shaving with a brand new razor is best. I think waxing would yield the best results though. I’m the kind of guy who shaves his face only once a week, otherwise the razor burn is just terrible, and I refuse to buy more than 3 packs of Mach 3 blades a year. So my skin is also quite sensitive. Some guys like no hair, some guys LOVE hair, but i think almost everyone can agree that trimmed genitals are totally acceptable. I don’t think it is necessary to shave down to bare skin.

      • Emily

        that’s so funny, because most of the guys i have been with have wanted me to shave down to bare skin, and most girls I’ve talked to agree that that’s what most guys want….my girl friends and I even considered going to get full bikini waxes together…and i don’t really see the need to trim my hair on my vagina either, i mean it’s perfectly natural…why would it be there if it was bad? I mean i shower everyday or almost everyday so i feel like bacteria growth isn’t going to be a big issue.

        that being said…thank you for the advice and the kind words, all the comments were really nice and helpful.

        • 1-2-3-4

          I myself prefer a little bit of hair down there, but I keep it trimmed and neat and clean – and have never had complaints or any sort of bad reaction but also have met several guys that have admitted to loving a full blown bush, like a forest down there – so don’t give up just yet!

          Iif you don’t want to shave, then don’t! You’ll find someone who will love you for who you are, not for who society thinks you should be! And that includes your pubic hair 😛

        • Lisa

          I agree that you should do what you are comfortable with, I get terrible razor burn so i decided to get regular waxes and am thinking of getting laser done. But thats because i prefer the way it feels not because of what men think. 
          They only problem I have with your comment is you seeing no need to trim just because its perfectly natural. Many things that are natural everyday people change. For example its natural for humans not to wear any clothes at all. Do you wear clothes? If you wear makeup you are changing your natural look. Pluck your eyebrows? Even washing your hair with shampoo is a difference to the natural way. 
          Don’t trim if you don’t want to. But saying it’s because its natural and you shouldn’t change it is hypocritical.

        • Thinkitthrough

          i presume you prefer full-bearded chaps? oh no, wait. i thought you might have thought this through before feeling entitled to tell men what they want. I WANT PIZZA ROLLS.
          (p.s. what is a pizza roll?)

        • Thinkitthrough

          i presume you prefer full-bearded chaps? oh no, wait. i thought you might have thought this through before feeling entitled to tell men what they want. I WANT PIZZA ROLLS.
          (p.s. what is a pizza roll?)

    • cptstubing

      Emily,
      Shaving gives me horrible razor burn, but sometimes I can avoid it somehow. Aloe helps, also shaving with a brand new razor is best. I think waxing would yield the best results though. I’m the kind of guy who shaves his face only once a week, otherwise the razor burn is just terrible, and I refuse to buy more than 3 packs of Mach 3 blades a year. So my skin is also quite sensitive. Some guys like no hair, some guys LOVE hair, but i think almost everyone can agree that trimmed genitals are totally acceptable. I don’t think it is necessary to shave down to bare skin.

    • Rappp

      that’s not a nice comment Emily.. sure if a guy loves you he wont care.. but guys that like a shaved vagina are not looking at it the way you are claiming.. at least not myself anyways.. hair is a bacteria trap and it can get pretty musky down there. I also shave mine.. for simular reasons. it’s a matter of taste literly haha.. but I totally understand what you are saying and hope you find a guy that wont mind.. if he loves you he wont.

      cheers

      • dontusetoothpaseasalube

        yeh… I reckon if he loves you he will mind but he wont say shit!

      • Beatrix

        “hair is a bacteria trap and it can get pretty musky down there.”
        This may be true, but in the 21st century there should be NO reason not to be clean – no matter how hairy or how bald – period.

        “it’s a matter of taste” HAHAHAHA you said it!

    • Anonymous

      Well for me its more about the way it feels, especially if im going down on a girl.

      But as far as surgery goes, I think it is just sick, there was nothing wrong with the girl in the docu.

      P.S. Just trim it, but don’t let it grow into a jungle, that’s a breading ground for bacteria and definitely not sexy.

      • Pirateinmypocket

        Uhhh….no, more hair does not mean that it is a “breeding ground for bacteria.” That’s actually pubic hair’s function: it keeps bacteria out of the vagina and reduces friction.

        • toothpastemayburnyourbellend

           aye we have baths and showers where i come from, pubic hair is from the old days with zx spectrums and lisa rodgers.

        • Noir_provocateur

          Yes I don’t see a problem unless you never shower. I personally am not a fan of a full bush that is unkept (like others have stated it gets caught and is just not very comfortable) but HELL NO am I brazilianing myself! I personally don’t like the look. I do think it does like very prepubescent if it is completely bare, and I don’t find that appealing.

    • Samuel

      My girlfriend doesn’t shave down south either and to be completely honest, i couldn’t think of something i care less about. It doesn’t smell, it doesn’t harbour germs, its accessable and does what it is supposed to do. All in all, i’m happy with it as long as she feels confortable :)

    • Chewbacca

      You sound just my type of girl.

      • Emily

        :)

      • Emily

        :)

      • Anon

        I don’t think she understands irony.

    • Hugh99

      I’m too old and ugly to get a real woman now so I just watch a bit of porn now and then but it’s hard to find porn with natural women. They all seem to shave down there which I don’t like at all.

      • cockfingeringisrife

         google search,  ‘hairy naturals’ and ‘tubgal’  right up your road…

    • 33harajukugirl

      im soooooo with ya

    • Endlessdreamer09

      Myself, choose to shave. Not because others do, but because I feel cleaner down there when I do. I used to suffer from horrible razor burns, and found that all it took was switching to a different razor (I use Venus) and using a moisturing body soap before and after I shave. I’m not saying that you should do it, because it IS your choice. But if you feel self-conscience about it, try my method.

    • Justanotherday

      I am a guy.  Don’t let the media and shallow guys make you feel anything other than beautiful.  If you do a little research, you will find that for a long time woman had hair and it was (and still is) sexy.  Then companies like Gillette in the US figure out they could double razors sells if they convinced women to shave.  As we can see, through ingenious advertisement, it worked–and continues to work.  I like women with hair. (Groomed of course. Overall good hygiene.)  …and yes.  I am one of those guys the media claims don’t exist.  I want a women with a personality and a brain.  Something the media also claims don’t exist.  Stop watching TV and work on the things that matter and that will last a lifetime.  No one should ever have to feel this way, however, it is nothing personal–it is just business.  

    • Justanotherday

      I am a guy.  Don’t let the media and shallow guys make you feel anything other than beautiful.  If you do a little research, you will find that for a long time woman had hair and it was (and still is) sexy.  Then companies like Gillette in the US figure out they could double razors sells if they convinced women to shave.  As we can see, through ingenious advertisement, it worked–and continues to work.  I like women with hair. (Groomed of course. Overall good hygiene.)  …and yes.  I am one of those guys the media claims don’t exist.  I want a women with a personality and a brain.  Something the media also claims don’t exist.  Stop watching TV and work on the things that matter and that will last a lifetime.  No one should ever have to feel this way, however, it is nothing personal–it is just business.  

      • Hager_hwieduk

        you are wonderful , I entirely respect you

        • Faceofboe

          lolz you are a legend, bro.
          also, to OP: stop being so entitled and thinking societal norms don’t apply to you. they do. grow up. yes, this one’s arbitrary, but so are pretty much all of them. if you don’t like it, date a creepy white knight internet stalker like Justanotherday (above), who’ll seemingly flatter you with ultimately misogynistic non sequiturs about how women who shave don’t have personalities or a brain, and men who love them do so for that reason.

          • TheMaster

            face of boe! 😀 quite possibly a doctor who reference? ;D

        • Faceofboe

          lolz you are a legend, bro.
          also, to OP: stop being so entitled and thinking societal norms don’t apply to you. they do. grow up. yes, this one’s arbitrary, but so are pretty much all of them. if you don’t like it, date a creepy white knight internet stalker like Justanotherday (above), who’ll seemingly flatter you with ultimately misogynistic non sequiturs about how women who shave don’t have personalities or a brain, and men who love them do so for that reason.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CTYTZLAFQCDSEH6MNXFEP32LS4 Shon Baydur

        This guy is just tryin to get laid. Play on a females emotions so they feel comfortable and then jump. We’re men, we’re animals. Not only is a shaved private spot more clean, it looks and smells healthier. The bush is out and will not make a come back in the near future. There is tho, men and womean out there that still like hairy folks. Basically the “Rugged” look. But if you pay attention on how much Justanotherday writes on his views, it’s no mistake this person is out to stalk women on the internet. I wouldn’t be surprised if he tried to contact you already, using your emial in this site. Watch yourself for this guys and others that will tell you exactly what you want to hear. Take it from me, one who has played and preyed on the weakness of women on the internet looking for any kind of acceptance. Good luck.

        • Speed–bumps

          Bawahahahaha!!!!  I thought the exact thing.  Should have started his post out with “I am a douchbag” rather than “I am a guy”

        • Yo

          well said! couldn’t had said it better myself.

        • Noir_provocateur

          LOL! Are you for real? This guy above is. I have a boyfriend who doesn’t really care! Yeah a bush isn’t in, but that goes for guys too! That doesn’t mean hairless thankyou very much. If you are animals you will like it hairier 😛

          • Where is my shepherd?

            Humans come from the ape family. Apes are animals. 
            We all come from the animalia kingdom.

            That being said, we are all different. We prefer different things, which is a good thing. I prefer hairless pussies and my wife shaves for me. What John Doe in Chicago likes may be different. Most men aren’t picky about it at all. If you, Emily experience issues with shaving, then simply don’t shave. A real man with a commitment for a serious relationship won’t leave you if you don’t shave. He will understand you and except it. 
            If you want to pleasure your guy with shaving instead then there are probably some guides around online on how to shave on certain skintypes, or you could ask your doctor.

          • MasterQ

            C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!!!

          • Where is my shepherd?

            *Cough* … I probably should’ve stopped after “I prefer hairless pussies and my wife shaves for me”.

        • Emily

          Seriously? He has never tried to contact me. 

        • anon

          hahahaha so true. however i love me a bushy bird bruv

        • Hope Assassin

          Yes, please “take it from” the guy who admits to preying on the weaknesses of women online.  He’s probably trustworthy and balanced.

        • Will_sheph3


          if you pay attention on how much Justanotherday writes on his views, it’s no mistake this person is out to stalk women on the internet. I wouldn’t be surprised if he tried to contact you already ”

          totally digressing but that above sounds like the most outdated ignorant stereotype of someone who visits the internet i’ve heard since primary school… maybe you’re some kind of weird freak 
          Shon Baydur but justanotherday has a far more balanced logical opinion than you, i think you need to stop trying to scare people in the most contrived way possible. its okay, we understand you’re scared because women are starting to stand up for themselves these days =] guess it’ll be harder for you to ”prey” and ”play” on womens weakness

          • Ryan

            “someone who visits the internet” bahahaha, genius. here, why don’t you have a banana and shut up genius. you are obviously a wimp.

      • Chadmoroz

        Dude your a cheese ball.

        • JazzTapper308

          *you’re 

      • TL

        Im a guy and i want a woman a personality and brain. but as soon as i say physically attractiveness is also important, im a branded a shallow man-bastard.  I’m sorry that good genetics/health/physical well being are one (not all) of  my  of my priorities. Sorry for being a F’ing human being.

        • TL

          …a woman with* please excuse my spelling. :)

          • Chris Gledhill

            you can’t actually help what you’re attracted to.. i mean you could stop watching television, porn or going out at all considering all the damn advertisement but it just wouldn’t be worth it. truth is.. healthy is hot. tell that to a lady and she’ll love you forever.. unless she’s overweight or decrepit skinny with raptor arms and shit. if a woman’s bicep and forearm have less circumference than her elbow…. she’s a creature.

          • John

            Funny but true

        • Anonymous

          Don’t sweat it bro, I know how you feel. I married a girl that I loved with all my heart, but I wasn’t that physically attracted to her. I thought that that was shallow though and that if I really loved her and enjoyed her company we could make it work. Well, that lasted about two years and we got divorced. Why, because physical intimacy is huge part of a relationship and if you can’t feel passionate about your partner, it will not work. Eventually you will meet someone that is attractive to you and that you are passionate about being intimate with and boom, your in trouble. The same thing goes for being with someone that you are attracted to but can’t have a conversation with, you will eventually leave them for someone that you can talk to. For a relationship to work long term you have to be physically, emotionally, and spiritually compatable to at least some degree. Otherwise you lose your passion for life in general, because all of your needs are not met.

        • http://www.facebook.com/angela.freeman.376695 Angela Freeman

          I can’t help feeling sorry for you, even if it IS a waste of my time – you needn’t apologise for being a “human being” – because “human beings” do not have or need this kind of physical hang up. What you ARE is a “Man’s Man” – and this is a type of “being” that I would suggest all women avoid like the plague. Physicalities fade with time. The inner beauty of a soul can never fade, but grows more beautiful with each lifetime… Why waste time and effort on changing something that you were born with, rather than accentuating the beauty we are all given within? I cannot think of a better way to waste a life than to concentrate any of my precious time on changing the things I was born with to please idiots who have no idea of what true beauty is to begin with!

          • Sebastian

            By the same reasoning, gays and lesbians should just suck it, and marry into a heterosexual relationship.
            You should really think before making such a fundamental statement about human nature.
            I agree that love and lust are NOT the same thing, but to suggest to even begin a monogamous relationship with s.o. – without even a remote chance of fulfilling each other’s appetites ever (and a human’s sex drive exists not only in her teens and early twenties, but into high age!) – is naive.

          • Buggy’s Friend

            Hey Angela, I’ve got a friend who would REALLY love to take you on a date. He’s just 4’10”, but makes up for that smallness with his biggish weight of 325 lbs. He had an unfortunate accident at the age of 20, which left him with only 4 teeth (well, not counting his rotten ones), 1 ear, & no tongue. That can actually be a GOOD thing, since he can’t ever talk back to you in an argument. Oh yeah, one of his legs is baddly bowed inward at the knee, causing him to not being able to walk unless you’re propping him up.

            Although he can’t help it, he only has an IQ of 82. He never was very good in school, so droped out after 7th grade, at the age of 18. He also has severe halitosis because of the bad teeth, but tries to keep in under control by always carrying one of those little $1 travel bottles of Scope in his pocket. Again, that’s not his fault, it was an aftermath of the unfortunate accident, and he’s always been dirt-poor so never could afford to have them fixed.

            But he’s got a GREAT personality & is hilariously funny. He WRITES his jokes down for you, because of the tongue-deal. You’ll eventually learn to read his mis-spelled scribbles, which aren’t his fault because of the IQ-deal.

            Since physical stuff isn’t important to you, I’m sure you’d be tickled to take my friend out on his first ever date. He’s always wanted to just give a girl one little good-night smooch on the cheek, nothing more. Surely you are just the type of kind person who can make a dream come true for this great guy. (Well, he PREFERS to be called a guy, but he’s actually a hermaphodite)

            Wow! I’ve been trying to get my friend a date for almost 8 years, ever since I met him when he was 22 years old. I’d almost given up, thinking there were no women left who could look past his very unfortunate body. Then you show up here. What a true blessing.

            Just PM me your phone# & a good time to call. I’ll get with my friend on a conference call so that I can help you understand what he’s trying to say with his grunts & noises. And then we’ll get this date all arranged & such.

            COOL!

      • Kiwigurl

        Well said :)

      • Vaginaspecialist

        Agreed. I love hair there and ever loved it. All guys who talking crap about it are just TV or Comercial blinded or sick. It’s natural and I’m sure before the 80’s no man would have kick a woman with hairy vagina out his bed, accept he was gay.

        • Chris Gledhill

          no man would ever kick a vagina out of his bed period…. he’s already experienced half of the shame of getting her in there if she’s hideous… unless he can make it quick and inconspicuous he may as well use it. I advocate the ladies O first.. keeping it fair and real.

        • http://www.redstateeclectic.typepad.com AngelaTC

          Actually, it was the mid-to-late 90’s.

    • Samantha HInckley

      dear emily, when you shave your pussy, you want to go with downward strokes only, do not push down on it. I remember when I first started. I gave myself wicked bad razor burn and it got all itchy. I personally do not think it is comfortable to have pubic hair. it gets pulled at random moments in my clothing, or grows in wrong and collects smell. I am not telling you that it is bad to not shave i just think it is more cleanly. waxing i hear is a great alternative if you like pain in your va jay jay but it leaves you smooth like a dolphin. lol. now I shave all the time. you must remember to do it fairly frequently. Always go with the hair not against it. 
      hope this helps your pussy.

      • Emily

        Thanks for the tip, I don’t know I have mixed feelings about the whole thing, I feel like it’s natural and that it shouldn’t be a problem, but then it comes to swim suit season, and pressures from guys, but it is helpful to know there are guys out there who do like things hairy. 

      • Emily

        Thanks for the tip, I don’t know I have mixed feelings about the whole thing, I feel like it’s natural and that it shouldn’t be a problem, but then it comes to swim suit season, and pressures from guys, but it is helpful to know there are guys out there who do like things hairy. 

        • Mckenzieg20

          emily i like hairy pussy,we should meet up say what?

        • Christine

          You know… I shave my pubic region. I have for a long time because the hair was very uncomfortable for me. I have to say though… I don’t find pubic hair attractive on men either. I’m not a pedophile (as you implied might be the case in the aversion to pubes earlier), but it’s just less awkward to me. This is why my boyfriend and I both shave (he started upon my request). I bring this up because it seems like people are making shaving out to be with war against women, but more and more men are shaving (it was even mentioned in the recent move “The Change-Up”) and don’t seem to get terribly offended if you request it of them. In the end though, it has to be something you’re comfortable with. I can’t imagine going back to having hair, on me or a partner, honestly. And the tip to shave *with* the grain is absolutely invaluable.

      • Bjf

        Brazilians for me tend to hurt less than my upper lips. Some parts don’t even hurt. I’m not sexually active; I get them done for myself because I like it. I like feeling cleaner, especially on my period.

    • Jane

       You’re inferring that a fairly sizable portion of men (those who aren’t big fans of pubic hair) are pedophiles. I don’t mind pubic hair that much myself, but I know a lot of people (who aren’t pedophiles) that really can’t stand it, for a variety of reasons, none of them being a love of having sex with children. Also, the last time I checked, prepubescent children didn’t have breasts, or wide hips like women have.

    • Paige

      I have the razor burn problem too yet at the same time I don’t like a ton of hair on my guy.  So I feel as though I have to be the same.  I found shaving the under bits works great and just keeping it trimmed on top.  But I completely understand and commend you.

    • Paige

      I have the razor burn problem too yet at the same time I don’t like a ton of hair on my guy.  So I feel as though I have to be the same.  I found shaving the under bits works great and just keeping it trimmed on top.  But I completely understand and commend you.

    • Mike

      Nobody likes plucking hair out of their teeth.  Shave your twat if you want a healthy sex life!

      • irritum

        Likewise, Mike, likewise. ^^

        • JazzTapper308

          Are you serious? Why would it be their if it was meant to be shaved off? You can call it evolution or God, or whatever, but if you have good hygiene, and bathe everyday it shouldn’t smell bad or harbor germs, if it does then the woman you’re with has a yeast infection, or bacterial infection or STD… see Samuel’s comment below! 

          • Paul

            So do you not shave your pits?  Put on makeup?  Dye your hair?  Wear a bra?  Wear clothes in general? Use a cell phone?  Use a computer? (At least we know the answer to that)

            There’s a whole shitload of ‘unnatural, not god-given’ things that we use today that mean the standards of “what we evolved with’ don’t apply.  Bringing that up is a stupid arguement unless you’re living in a cave scratching fleas out of your tangled nappy unwashed hair.

          • PsDDONN

            Well said. What bullshit (typically female) logic.

          • KJ

            What typically male bullshit without any logic behind it.

          • JaiGuru

            Pubic hair is primarily about holding in scents and pheromones that were used by our simian ancestors to guage ovulation, physical health and suitability. It is more or less vestigial, and at best, a nuisance to most people. It is alright to have an aesthetic preference in favor of it. But don’t try to bring destiny into it and don’t try to deny that it takes more than a single hour to have your most covered, damp and warm bits build up significant bacteria.

          • Kei Kurono

            Im not denying anything, I like it dirty!
            But for all of you playing the bacteria card. Im sure you tried sticking it the asshole once and isnt that like 10x as dirty as a hairy pussy. And for those people that arent experienced all around you shouldnt be the ones handing out advise

      • Lynn

        No, ‘plucking a hair out of your teeth’ isn’t fun… but I’ve done it from time to time because it happens even when giving a blow-job. However, would I want my man to shave it down there? Oooo… no , gross!!! It would look like a little boy and I want my man to be and look like a man! Why do you want a woman to look like a prepubescent girl? Don’t you think that’s a bit creepy?

        • nobonesl

          Excellent point. This CA man agrees with you.
          There is a whole new industry based on making people want
          to be hairless. It’s all about money, as usual.

    • GOPMAN

      I do want to comment on the shaving issue. People have different likes
      and dislikes. However the b.s. statement……. it makes you look prepubescent, which surely says something about guys that dislike hair………… is beyond insulting!, You are inferring pedophilia. What a bullcrap F’ing statement
      to make.

      1) A big ole bush is a mess to get through when performing oral on your
      partner.( nobody likes pulling hair out of their teeth)   

      2) it covers up that very pretty and lovable part of the female
      anatomy.  One great solution is just trim it up, have a landing strip,
      be creative. (or keep it furry if you like it that way.)

       

      Does it make sense to say that if someone likes a big ole bush they
      might have tendencies toward beastialiity,…….. cause they like the hair???? I
      think not.

       

      • Waxman

        Hey Gopman, I couldn’t agree more. I am going to put hair on the food of the next woman who says that a guy is into underage girls because they like hairless lady parts

    • GOPMAN

      I do want to comment on the shaving issue. People have different likes
      and dislikes. However the b.s. statement……. it makes you look prepubescent, which surely says something about guys that dislike hair………… is beyond insulting!, You are inferring pedophilia. What a bullcrap F’ing statement
      to make.

      1) A big ole bush is a mess to get through when performing oral on your
      partner.( nobody likes pulling hair out of their teeth)   

      2) it covers up that very pretty and lovable part of the female
      anatomy.  One great solution is just trim it up, have a landing strip,
      be creative. (or keep it furry if you like it that way.)

       

      Does it make sense to say that if someone likes a big ole bush they
      might have tendencies toward beastialiity,…….. cause they like the hair???? I
      think not.

       

    • Bo

      1. If you cant shave, at least trim with scissors
      2. Wax
      3. WAX!
      4. Yes there are men who like hair, but most of them like to hit on women on comment threads…
      5. How about wax?

      • reply

        first try waxing your own male parts. and only then you may suggest waxing as alternative to shaving. or try your face?  

        • Lynn

          well said reply

    • Happily Engaged

      Please ignore the idiotic men who have responded. I am a man in a relationship and have absolutely no interest in internet women, and I can say I much prefer a woman who has some hair down there. I also feel hairless looks far too childlike and it is a complete turn-off to me. I suggest just keeping it neatly trimmed. 

      On another note, pubic hair exists for a reason. It aids in keeping your genitals clean, keeping back any debris, and allowing natural body oils to not just sit there against the skin. It is the same reason humans grow armpit hair.

    • Happily Engaged

      Please ignore the idiotic men who have responded. I am a man in a relationship and have absolutely no interest in internet women, and I can say I much prefer a woman who has some hair down there. I also feel hairless looks far too childlike and it is a complete turn-off to me. I suggest just keeping it neatly trimmed. 

      On another note, pubic hair exists for a reason. It aids in keeping your genitals clean, keeping back any debris, and allowing natural body oils to not just sit there against the skin. It is the same reason humans grow armpit hair.

    • Happily Engaged

      Please ignore the idiotic men who have responded. I am a man in a relationship and have absolutely no interest in internet women, and I can say I much prefer a woman who has some hair down there. I also feel hairless looks far too childlike and it is a complete turn-off to me. I suggest just keeping it neatly trimmed. 

      On another note, pubic hair exists for a reason. It aids in keeping your genitals clean, keeping back any debris, and allowing natural body oils to not just sit there against the skin. It is the same reason humans grow armpit hair.

      • WonderingWhyPeopleAreSoStupid

        Actually, that’s kind of funny point… how many girls here don’t shave their pits as well as their bush?  if it’s such a great defense against debris (what sort of underwear are you wearing that you have debris accumulating down there, happily engaged?  Or is that your wife getting debris there?)  then why aren’t you all saying you don’t shave your pits either?

    • Ruth

      Don’t worry about it! I get terrible razor burn too, so I don’t shave at all. Sometimes I take hair clippers to keep things short, but I’m never fully shaved. As long as you practice the usual hygiene there won’t be any difference to being shaven. Heck, I find that I smell MORE when I do shave! <3 <3

    • Christine Dormoy

      I’m a 27 year old woman. I don’t shave anything. Occasionally, i wax my legs, armpits,  and bikini line for a change. Most of the time, i’m hairy.  None of my boyfriends (5) have ever cared.  When people say things like, “why don’t you shave?” i say “why should i?” Their reasoning is normally lame, a series of regurgitated misconceptions that in all honesty have too much weight attached to them.  Hair is a cosmetic preference like hair color, long nails, or even what kind of clothing you wear…If someone wouldn’t date you, go down on you, or would judge you for choosing a snickers bar over a milky way, how would you respond to them?  It’s just a preference that you more than he has to live with. If shaving makes your pussy burn don’t do it. Good point on the association between pre-pubescent females and shaved pussy’s.
      With confidence comes indifference. You want to feel confident in any decision you make research the subject matter.

      • Betyacheesefat

        Your paragraph is so contradictory that if you can’t read your own words and understand why you are wrong then …

        Instead, I shall simply request  you to link a picture of yourself and relevant body mass information as to confirm the assumption that… and thus making less relevant the issue of shaved pubic hair.

    • Christine Dormoy

      I’m a 27 year old woman. I don’t shave anything. Occasionally, i wax my legs, armpits,  and bikini line for a change. Most of the time, i’m hairy.  None of my boyfriends (5) have ever cared.  When people say things like, “why don’t you shave?” i say “why should i?” Their reasoning is normally lame, a series of regurgitated misconceptions that in all honesty have too much weight attached to them.  Hair is a cosmetic preference like hair color, long nails, or even what kind of clothing you wear…If someone wouldn’t date you, go down on you, or would judge you for choosing a snickers bar over a milky way, how would you respond to them?  It’s just a preference that you more than he has to live with. If shaving makes your pussy burn don’t do it. Good point on the association between pre-pubescent females and shaved pussy’s.
      With confidence comes indifference. You want to feel confident in any decision you make research the subject matter.

    • tina

      Dear Emily, 
      Have some confidence and stop caring what other people think. If shaving your vagina physically hurts you – STOP DOING IT! Take the advice on general medicines – if you have adverse affects, cease immediately! 
      Clearly you need some sort of appreciation or ego boost from others if you not only do something to hurt yourself so a male thinks he might fuck you more than once, and then to post about it on a documentary site! YOU can choose to present yourself however YOU choose, and of course you can’t please everyone! 
      Stop being a silly girl and stand up for yourself. Nobody really cares whether you shave, wax or trim, or don’t. As long as you feel good about yourself, and present yourself with confidence, any guy will fuck you – if indeed that is what you want. 

    • Slevers

      I hear you girl! That skin is sensitive and I love my lady bits furry. :) Don’t let the assholes get you down. We are beautiful!

      • shine

        what assholes? women criticise mens parts similarly. The only sexist comments here have been made by you and the female presenter in singling out men as the cause or culprits for these operations. If there was a show about male penis appearances, ‘some’ women would have their preferences.. as you well know! and wouldnt be ashamed to say so.
        Have you- or your friends, ever slagged a man off about the size of his penis?
        Give me strength!!!

        • Pabby

          well said.

          • Sterlinganon

            Yup, definitely.  It’s not politically correct to judge women, it is politically correct not just to judge but to mock men.   And yet there’s supposed to be this HUGE male conspiracy to get women to do/act/behave a certain way.  ….  which was true 60 years ago, maybe even further.

            Seriously, when is the last time you heard of a man telling his gf “Sweetie, I need you to go buy Cosmo so you can live up to those weird fashion girl standards”.  This bullshit is all about women judging each other, and then foisting the blame off on men.

            Now, it’s true, men have their preferences.  Women have their preferences as well. However, at least the majority of the time those preferences are consistent, even if illogical.  Not the ‘common’ (and I mean, generalized/stereotyped, I realize some girl is gonna post “That’s not my type at all” next) ideal of a man who is a trustworthy badboy, a dangerous sensitive guy, a tough guy who will take care of your babies when you’re sick, a sparkling vampire….

        • KJ

          No, I’m sorry. Neither me nor my friends have. And honestly? I really don’t care about a man’s penis.

        • JaiGuru

          This is pure truth. Women are the number one source of body image problems among other women. You buy ridiculous magazines and foster a cultural neurosis about body shape. Then, when the time comes to accept responsibility for such juvenile behavior, it’s no surprise that the blame is never aimed at the person in the mirror. It must be MEN, then! Because personal accountability would be too time consuming and trying.

        • Well yeah

          For what its worth, there WAS a show about male penis appearances. The description clearly states that it this documentary is a response to it. The host was a guy who confessed to having a 3″ penis. He got women to shape their ‘ideal’ penis only to see them being 6-7″. He had one woman laughingly tell him about the time she had sex with a guy with a 4″ penis. You know what he didn’t do? He didn’t break down in tears and call her sexist. Or hell, maybe he did. I watched it well over a year ago. Anyway where was I? Sexism! Bigotry! Rah rah!

      • DaHerbalis

        Bushy pussies smell funny. They also hurt like hell if you get your glans cut by one of those “beautiful”, smelly, evil hairs…

        • Midge

          since when are pubic hairs sharp enough to cut anything?! have you been masturbating with a steel wool sponge?!

    • Noir_provocateur

      Any guy who loves you won’t care :) I know cos my boyfriend doesn’t care. The first time he shaved he was like OMG you never have to do that again! Cos of the itchiness. Seriously don’t worry about it :) There are heaps of people who want laser for brazilians, which is a bit crazy because it means you end up with NO HAIR AT ALL! I think something is nice and I hate having nothing.

    • Bbbggg007

      lol I dont think its a matter of prepubescent attraction, for me its more a matter of not getting a mouth full of carpet lol…..  How ever i do feel where your coming from , im a hairy as beast all over my body in fact my hair is so thick that when the misses tried to wax me bum cheeks no hair came of i was simply left in pain and with my dags still in place.,..

    • littlebear

      I find the entire conversation that steamed from this hillarious. If you love someone it shouldn’t matter (If you just want to get laid, it might be a different story). I am in my healthiest relationship to date and this is never an issue. We each have personal preferance for ourselves, but we have talked about it and it doesn’t make a differance. If you have tried different things and are gun-ho about your body one way or another, no one should try to influence you. I’m all natural and my boyfriend loves it because I’m always clean. HEALTH IS WHAT MATTERS MOST. If my clean bush is a big enough deterant for anyone then obviously they only care about sex; you have to take me the way I really am if you want access to the most personal thing about me. Everyone should think that highly of themselves.

    • Niall

      Emily. The suggestion that men want their partner to look pre pubescent is disgraceful. That is accusing us of being paedophiles and I am disgusted. I shave my genital area. I would even consider waxing as I find the contact of flesh on flesh extremely sensual. 

    • Jackbeats123

      its not as though all men want hairless vaginas. I personally like a little hair, but only above the lips. I love to give oral, and its not nice to lick the lips of a hairy vagina! 

    • DaHerbalis

      Hair traps smell. Pretty simple… He may love you for you but the smell will chase him away eventually….

    • Mv

      Emily, if you get razor burns there are a few ways to deal with it: change your razor, wax, trim, or use one of those foams that remove hair.  but if nothing works, the trimmed look is better than the bush. as a girl, I wax- it was painful at first but overtime it gets much better to the point that i barely feel it, the skill of the waxing lady plays a big part in the amount of pain you feel as well. its the same for men, i like when men are trimmed down there, a bush is a turn off. men like shaved parts not because they look prepubescent but because they see more, and thus get turned on. moreover it is more hygienic, because the private parts sweat more the more hair there is. and unlike the hair on our heads, our private parts don’t get constantly ventilated.  

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1552573960 David Salma

      No need to shave a vagina there are so many man that love hairy pus…
      I my self love hairy V. ;).

    • Kcdad2806

      Hairless is a man’s fantasy about young girls … it is the man’s fantasy that he is the first , only and best (and of course the biggest)

      • Violator2g

        what? where id you get that idea?? i take it you are a woman because a guy would never say anything that retarded!

    • DavidJamesCowen

      If you love a guy enough and he shaves his junk then you should wax shave or at least use clippers and groom so it’s short.  There is nothing grosser then a women that does not shave!  And oral sex for you is out of the question.  And you are whacked if you think guys who want their girls to be shaved are sick or have a problem!

    • Andrea

      Emily, I understand you like being natural, but have you tried shaving underwater?  As in while taking a bath?  I typically find baths relaxing, but shower afterward.  Anyways, just food for thought, even though you posted so long ago.  But yes, there are  plenty of men out there there prefer hair down there.  Most men that I have been with prefer some hair versus none, just FYI.  They have complained that no hair makes them feel weird, as if, well i think you get the rest.  Anyways, good luck and do what makes YOU happy! Just wasn’t sure if you have ever tried shaving underwater… sound weird but might be of help…

    • Hwhite9

      Thats an interesting point “it makes you look prepubescent, which surely says something about guys that dislike hair” As a man who has been told by alot of female partners that they want me to be clean shavin on my face. I wonder whether that means there is pressure on men to look prepubescent as well?  

      • Daryl

        There is a big difference between having hair on your genitals or on your face, unless you are a dickhead, which it sounds as though you are Hwhite.

        • Pete

          What is the distinction? I don’t think there is a big difference at all. For me, I request this of girls who enjoy having oral sex performed on them. I enjoy performing it, but not if I’m getting hair up my nose.

          I certainly sympathize with the discomfort. I have been asked to shave “down there” even as a man, and I shave my face every day which often leaves razor burn to at least some degree. Still, I feel as though this wasn’t mentioned because it is not a problem specifically effecting women.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000360464572 Tom Jones

            Never really cared about how a vigina looks, and it’s not about prepubescene; it’s about getting hair in your mouth. I’m a man, and I shave because it’s easier to keep clean. Simple… :)

      • Me

        I have thought the same thing

    • Au Naturelle

      Emily, there are significant numbers of guys out there who love hairy pussy’s and proactively look to discourage woman from shaving, I wish more women would realise this fact….

    • j

      This is a fantastic documentary, watched it on British Tv first time round. The point is about the culture of image ‘perfection’ and the lengths some women go to because of the psychological pressure they feel to be perfect. I think this is due largely to the explosion of pornography. This pornographic explosion has affected the way we all perceive sex and our bodies. Hair, size spots etc. I was hocked that vaginoplasty existed, it is a terrible thing, sadly it is the way of the world now, as with breast enlargement.
      What saddens me more as a man are the awful comments some of you have made. Why would this programme make you angry? I think sexist doesn’t come close to describe your personalities, I think Fascist is the only word I know for people such as yourselves.
      To the ladies out there, men are desperate for sex most of the time, they may talk big but all they really want is to be loved same as you. You in reality have all the sexual power, so don’t worry about your appearance, because there will be 100 men out there who don’t care for every 1 that does. If guys have a problem with the way you look, kick them to the curb and find a decent, modern male.

    • JaiGuru

      If you want a guy to have his face down there, you need to be clean. You wouldn’t want to do the same for a guy who hadn’t showered would you? Well, the whole evolutionary point in having hair down there is to hold on to scents and pheramones. Thing is, we wear lots of clothes now so it get damp, warm and very bacterial. If you expect a man to be clean before intimacy, you should be willing to do the same.

    • farty

      Emily, how does shaving your pubes make you look any more pubescant than shaving your legs and armpits. it’s about getting rid of unflattering hair, not about looking young.

    • barbiecakes

      Moisturize with a non-alcohol moisturizer after shaving.

    • tito

      its about going down and coming up with a mouth full of hair

    • vertex outpatient

      Honey, I love a JUNGLE down there and HATE hairless pubescent vaginas. A full bush of hair is a sign of virility to me and a women should never, ever be forced to shave. I fact, I love how my wife’s hair appears from the sides of her thong panties. This is a of her sexual power over her panties, with her panties saying: HELP ME, her vagina is too strong to contain me.

      There are a lot of us guys out there who want nothing to do with hairless vaginas. When my ex-wife told me that she started shaving after we broke up, I was disappointed and knew that I would never be sexually attracted to her again. I was right. My present wife rocks and never shaves down hers and it even gives off an sensual aroma when aroused. God put hair there for a purpose, so don’t ever shave it. Get with a real man who will love you in spite of your looks below your waist.

    • http://www.facebook.com/angela.freeman.376695 Angela Freeman

      Oh honey, ignore all of this rubbish! Your appeal – sexual and otherwise – comes from within, from your SOUL, and NOT from any other outside worthless source! I agree with ‘Justanotherday’ (comment below) – stop watching television (I stopped ten years ago and it’s the BEST thing I’ve ever done for myself…), stop giving credence to any form of media at all (because it exists solely to dumb you down, and manipulate your emotions to the point of crippling your intelligence – so you’ll believe them and buy their products!) and concentrate on your soul. Your eyes will express your inner beauty, and that way all who come into your life will be able to see the true you when you look at them… Love x

    • http://www.facebook.com/ben.wigmans1 Ben Wigmans

      ”which surely says something about guys that dislike hair” Yes If you don’t like going down on a very hairy vagina as a male or you prefer women that have shaved armpits you are automatically a pedophile. Very logical thinking of you Emily. You are near minutes away from getting your psychiatrist degree……

    • Luther Bliss

      Never trust Anglo-American sexual ‘advice’ because a sizeable majority of are either tools of the cosmetic industry, raised on degrading
      internet porn, or puritan clean-freak that are convinced that foreskins
      and pubic hair are “dirty”.

      Usually all three on internet fourms…

      Consenting adults should do as they please – but let’s understand that
      evolution made human genitals just fine, no razor blades or lasers
      required.

    • Neversettle

      I am a 21 year old female. I have shaved since i was teased about it in the 9th grade. I had a boyfriend and he had seen it and touched it, but he seemed to love it. A lot. I let a 15 year old girl convince me that I was a disgusting person. I have naturally sensitive skin, and through the years I have nicked myself so many times. I have a skin tag, a small dark spot, and a tiny scar in my pubic area from shaving incorrectly. I had relationships with horrible guys until I met my fiancé, and over time he rebuilt my self esteem. One day I was in such pain from razor burns, I blurted out- “I hate that women have to shave! It hurts so bad!”
      That man answered without hesitation, he already “had” me so this was not a pick up line. He said,” baby why do you do that if it hurts? Please do whatever makes you happy, because that is what makes me happy.”

      Men who love you, truly love you, will never want you to hurt yourself for their desires. And women who truly love a man, will never hold him to a standard set by anyone other than herself. If you can’t meet her standards, why don’t you go find a girl who doesn’t have any? Maybe it’s because the ones that don’t have any self worth are the girls you treated like shit. If you stop creating girls with insecurities, you will actually have to stop being a loser to get laid.

      We are powerful, girls. I went from an emotional basket case who had NO self esteem, to a proud confident loved woman. One man showed me how to treat myself, and I promise one is out there for you too. Hurting yourself is abusing your body and showing you do not value it. So surround yourself with people who cherish and respect your body.

  • anon

    i had no idea how ugly mine was. lol and it doesn’t bother me at all.

  • Starczar

    Women never cease to amaze me as to how stupid they can be. Labia trim!!! I love large inner labia. I love the orchid look of the folds in inner labia. God, if I was a woman, these idiots would really embarrass me.

    • ihatehatewithlove

       orchid like or dead bats wings its all the same to me, why hate or blush? if you were a woman you would see the world from a womans perspective and relate to her man made presures. its a misogynistic world, if i was an idiots like you , you idiots would really embarrass me.

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  • Jacob

    Amazing documentary. So much I want to say in comment to it, but I just can’t focus my thoughts enough. I had only just heard of this form of surgery and honestly it appalls me, that society would corrupt women enough to think that their vaginas were ugly and needed to be reshaped or mutilated. Very, very good look into this new, hopefully only, fad. I hope more women get the chance to look at themselves and realize that trying to look ‘perfect’ only takes away from their own unique originality.

  • Love

    I had my vagina cast by Jamie in Brighton, and I just want to say, it was a lovely experience. If you’re thinking of visiting him, I highly recommend him. Jamie was absolutely lovely – warm, friendly, completely non-judgmental, non-sexual, etc. I asked lots of questions and he answered them all, and told some interesting stories (he’s a straight, married man who has also made dildos and casts from men’s – gay and straight – sexually-aroused penises). An added plus was seeing my vagina in cast form (Oh, that little thing. Is that all it is? It’s quite pretty.) and being able to see the collective sculpture of many other vagina casts and see the variation, and the normality in all that range of my own. Highly recommended.

  • Love

    I had my vagina cast by Jamie in Brighton, and I just want to say, it was a lovely experience. If you’re thinking of visiting him, I highly recommend him. Jamie was absolutely lovely – warm, friendly, completely non-judgmental, non-sexual, etc. I asked lots of questions and he answered them all, and told some interesting stories (he’s a straight, married man who has also made dildos and casts from men’s – gay and straight – sexually-aroused penises). An added plus was seeing my vagina in cast form (Oh, that little thing. Is that all it is? It’s quite pretty.) and being able to see the collective sculpture of many other vagina casts and see the variation, and the normality in all that range of my own. Highly recommended.

  • Love

    I had my vagina cast by Jamie in Brighton, and I just want to say, it was a lovely experience. If you’re thinking of visiting him, I highly recommend him. Jamie was absolutely lovely – warm, friendly, completely non-judgmental, non-sexual, etc. I asked lots of questions and he answered them all, and told some interesting stories (he’s a straight, married man who has also made dildos and casts from men’s – gay and straight – sexually-aroused penises). An added plus was seeing my vagina in cast form (Oh, that little thing. Is that all it is? It’s quite pretty.) and being able to see the collective sculpture of many other vagina casts and see the variation, and the normality in all that range of my own. Highly recommended.

  • Bush

    I had a boyfriend who got upset with me if I cut my pubic hair shorter. He got excited by what he called ‘bush’, and the hairier the better, the less skin he could see the better.

  • Bush

    I had a boyfriend who got upset with me if I cut my pubic hair shorter. He got excited by what he called ‘bush’, and the hairier the better, the less skin he could see the better.

  • Bush

    I had a boyfriend who got upset with me if I cut my pubic hair shorter. He got excited by what he called ‘bush’, and the hairier the better, the less skin he could see the better.

  • Fullmooneve

    it’s such a biased documentary. i don’t remember girls being called sexist for liking big penises.

    • liberalwomancomingthrough

      @Foolmooneve:disqus ,

      You’re right, it is hypocritical for a women to complain about man’s preference for vaginas but then prefer/expect larger penises. I think the reason why society focuses on the damages of unrealistic vagina expectations rather than unrealistic penis expectations, is because women already have so many other detrimental expectations of their bodies. Although, as a woman, I do not believe that any kind of expectation is justified. The point is, we all come in different shapes, sizes, and colors and society needs to encourage the celebration of our differences.

    • Lookmichaeljackson

      Considering the mission of this documentary is probably to empower girls and help people understand female genital complexities, obviously it has to have some bias. Yes, there are other issues of insecurity that I think the public has to hear about, including penis size issues… but this documentary is focused on one thing (Actually a couple) in its own right. Why not? Why does this one documentary have to carry the responsibility of all possible insecurities?  There are a billion things that can be talked about with genitalia… like its pigmentation variation, female genital cutting, circumcision, anal bleaching, cultural preferences, hairiness, etc.    Nowhere in this documentary does it say all men and women are evil or good in their views, and nowhere does it say women are allowed to like big penises but men are sexist to dislike long labia.    The style of this documentary is to follow one woman explore an issue that’s upsetting her. Maybe you should make one about penis size!   

      Not that you think this, but I think it’s unfair to dismiss a documentary like this bc it fails to mention some points you wished it touched upon.  I personally found this documentary empowering and helpful! I don’t think down upon all men or women at all. It just helps me see how society may be, and that there are all kinds of people out there. Just gotta stick to the people who make you feel good. 

  • Wkeithc

    I have never seen a vagina that was not perfect, surgery is not necessary!

  • walterrhett

    Riveting subject but flaws in the craft. I felt you intruding in the story. As I am trying to put myself into the place of the women who should be the focus, I found, time and again, I encountered you, exploring your own world, not the wider world of the women who are the raison d’etre for the film. Their you were at the table, in the circle, in the exam room, in the garden, with the workers, and the transitionary connection finally became to sticky, and I grew weary of watching you wrestle and then almost abandoning each woman as you move on. At the end, I waited for them to be revisited so I could have closure and see how they are doing, but alas, there was you @LisaRoger, emoting in the same space of judgement as you were in the beginning. The film was a bit too interior (no pun) for me, and too much about what begin to feel like your voyeurism into these women’s lives. Where were their husbands, families, even if them refused to talk? Where was the sister, did she realize the effect of her teasing? Despite that, I loved the film, and fast forwarded through yr head shots. Thanks for the hard work, and great conception. (Again, no pun).

  • tink

    So sad I don’t have words for it, when that girl had her operation. Horrible. Why don’t men have this pressure?

  • tink

    So sad I don’t have words for it, when that girl had her operation. Horrible. Why don’t men have this pressure?

    • Guest

      They do … but how does trying to switch the debate onto men help these women … oh just realised it’s because you hate men.

  • Miss Amour

     I love my vagina.

    • UiO

      And so does the football team and all the guys at the bar, however the staff at the clinic say they’ve don’t given how often they’ve had to treat it

    • Bishop Magnificence

      And so does the entire 101st Airborne Division, although the last few guys he ventured up there did say it was getting rather smelly.

  • Wet-lander

    I absolutely must bust it out for all you ladies. Me, being a real man and loving the female form in all its glory, i must share my preferences. I totally dig an older woman’s vagina, its the extra that really gets me going. a little trim, (not a full shave) for the hair, but give me all the extra bits and nibbley parts. nothing beats a vagina that has produced children. Views are changing on how a guy likes his womans parts and most guys like a fuller woman, (if’n you know what i mean) screw the liars who say i have no preference. Each person has some sort of preference towards body and whats beautiful. that’s why some people find others attractive. its in our genes. follow your head to where your heart will lead you. if someone says they don’t like your vagina, chances are they also don’t like other things about you and the relationship wasn’t meant to be. if someone loves you, they will also love the changing you.

  • Wet-lander

    I absolutely must bust it out for all you ladies. Me, being a real man and loving the female form in all its glory, i must share my preferences. I totally dig an older woman’s vagina, its the extra that really gets me going. a little trim, (not a full shave) for the hair, but give me all the extra bits and nibbley parts. nothing beats a vagina that has produced children. Views are changing on how a guy likes his womans parts and most guys like a fuller woman, (if’n you know what i mean) screw the liars who say i have no preference. Each person has some sort of preference towards body and whats beautiful. that’s why some people find others attractive. its in our genes. follow your head to where your heart will lead you. if someone says they don’t like your vagina, chances are they also don’t like other things about you and the relationship wasn’t meant to be. if someone loves you, they will also love the changing you.

  • Asdf

    To the women out there please don’t mess with your inner labia cause I love going down there and licking, kissing, sucking on it.

  • you wish

    I had some issues about that couple of years ago, but now that I have my boyfriend who completely loves it the way it is there’s no way I would like to change anything. It’s sick that there’s a pressure for some girls to have it smaller. 
    Just be confident about your body and don’t act like you’re an alien because of that.
    Everyone is made to have it a little different than the others, some bigger some smaller, but for everyone there’s a guy who will love that part of your body just the way it is.  PS. Those who don’t watched probably too much fake porn 😉

  • Deliooous

    megavideo player is HORRIBLE! multiple pop-ups and part way through it stopped playback and wanted me to pay to view the rest of the video. the doc seemed great but the use of the megavideo player should be outlawed on this free site

    • Jedward

      Fully agree, however the owner of the site is more concerned about generating traffic (hence the more videos he links to irrespective of their value or quality) than the experience of the viewers.

    • Guest

      I had zero problems watching the whole video without being asked for money

  • DSSDF

     DAMN THAT SHIT LOOK LIKE THE PREDATORS MOUTH YO LOL

    • Dutch

       i wonder if it bleeds green?

    • Jkhjhh87

      holy shit I am fucking dying of laughter. predators mouth hahaha.

      back on topic, i would never get a penis surgery and women should never get labia surgery, this is all unbelivable, ppl need to work with what they got y0.
      regarding hair, shaved, not shaved, its all pussy. I shave my balls, but only because i like how they feel. not for anyone else.Don’t conform, do whatever pleases YOU :)

      • GAVINHOWTO

        gay

      • gavinM

        well… I was planning to read the whole thing, but its just too much at this point. Jkhjgg87 posted what i can agree with the most.  (and for some ridiculous reason at this point, I feel obligated to post simply because of everything that’s come before). 

        I shave and/or trim myself. I like the way it feels. I like the way a shaved/hairless girl feels as well. But do what ever you like. I like it clean feel for myself.  Although i prefer it clean shaven on a girl, if I like a girl, I like the girl. If she’s not shaved… I might bring it up as a preference, but i like her, and I like her lady bits too. [I would say though, if you’re intimate with someone you both should be up to experiment for eachother’s sake.]

         I agree with a few previous posts, it can be a pain if the outer part of the lips aren’t trimmed when going down, (not to be confused with cosmetic surgery– which i don’t agree with)  but that’s from a guy who enjoys going down on a girl. If it is really that big of a problem, i’ll deal with a little hair.  I won’t “deal” with it as often as i might like, but i’ll make due. 
        anyway, I don’t know why i felt so obligated to respond.. There’s my 2 cents. Cheers

      • CuntHunter

        So…. because you would never get penis surgery, women should not get labia surgery, right? What the fuck planet do you come from and have they heard of logic?

    • Jkhjhh87

      holy shit I am fucking dying of laughter. predators mouth hahaha.

      back on topic, i would never get a penis surgery and women should never get labia surgery, this is all unbelivable, ppl need to work with what they got y0.
      regarding hair, shaved, not shaved, its all pussy. I shave my balls, but only because i like how they feel. not for anyone else.Don’t conform, do whatever pleases YOU :)

  • Audrey

    This is an unfortunately poor documentary, with very little actual research, and far too much of the presenters personal opinion. She barely touches on the reasons women do this surgery.

    And her accusing men who are being honest with her of being sexist is a really foolish tact to take- women criticise penises just as much as men critique vaginas- don’t make it into a gender inequality issue. It is an issue for ALL people who exist in an age of over sexed media imagery, not only women

    • nonono

      you can see women talking badly about penises in My Penis and I. It isn’t a sexist thing it is a media and social thing.

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  • http://silentchaos.myopenid.com/ silentchaos

    I want to talk to some of these ladies. It saddens me that they let someone else decide what they have is wrong. It’s not even something harmful to them or anyone else.

  • Anonymous

    I think her message is bullshit. She has standards too. I can guarentee she wouldn’t have sex with a guy she doesn’t find attractive. Like shes never been repulsed by someone’s appearance. The reason these women take the surgery is to make themselves feel sexier and more confident. Its the same reason people go on a diet or use makeup. Women also have standards for penises why cant men have their own standards on vaginas? If a man had a chode or something that was aesthetically repulsive then she wouldn’t have sex with him. I’m not saying their vagina has to be “perfect” but there is an acceptable variety and an unacceptable variety. And this along with what the two painters said wasn’t sexist at all.

  • DerDeeDeeDee

    Pity it’s hosted by Megavideo: annoying adverts and demands for money.

  • 12345

    Nice documantary, but I think she misses the point. I heared that the reason that the girls don’t show their inner lips in magazines like playboy, is because they can’t. The inner lips make the difference between hard and soft porn. When you can see them, its hard porn. When you don’t its soft porn. Becouse of this, you never see them in the magezines and soft porn video’s. And by removing them, or photoshop them they can show more pussy but still name it as softporn.
    So the reason the girls think is their vagina isn’t “normal” is coused by a law.

  • 12345

    Nice documantary, but I think she misses the point. I heared that the reason that the girls don’t show their inner lips in magazines like playboy, is because they can’t. The inner lips make the difference between hard and soft porn. When you can see them, its hard porn. When you don’t its soft porn. Becouse of this, you never see them in the magezines and soft porn video’s. And by removing them, or photoshop them they can show more pussy but still name it as softporn.
    So the reason the girls think is their vagina isn’t “normal” is coused by a law.

  • 12345

    Nice documantary, but I think she misses the point. I heared that the reason that the girls don’t show their inner lips in magazines like playboy, is because they can’t. The inner lips make the difference between hard and soft porn. When you can see them, its hard porn. When you don’t its soft porn. Becouse of this, you never see them in the magezines and soft porn video’s. And by removing them, or photoshop them they can show more pussy but still name it as softporn.
    So the reason the girls think is their vagina isn’t “normal” is coused by a law.

  • 12345

    Nice documantary, but I think she misses the point. I heared that the reason that the girls don’t show their inner lips in magazines like playboy, is because they can’t. The inner lips make the difference between hard and soft porn. When you can see them, its hard porn. When you don’t its soft porn. Becouse of this, you never see them in the magezines and soft porn video’s. And by removing them, or photoshop them they can show more pussy but still name it as softporn.
    So the reason the girls think is their vagina isn’t “normal” is coused by a law.

  • Springer Justice

    personally, as a bisexual… i havent seen a vagina i think is disgusting or a dick i think is too small… this might sound steriotypical, but im into asian men and most only have a 4 incher or so, but idc its fine to me.. and yeah im a girl

  • thatoneguy

    Guys who dont like a vagina because of its shape or size are retarted. I would not care the size or shape because everyone is different.

  • thatoneguy

    Guys who dont like a vagina because of its shape or size are retarted. I would not care the size or shape because everyone is different.

  • thatoneguy

    Guys who dont like a vagina because of its shape or size are retarted. I would not care the size or shape because everyone is different.

  • thatoneguy

    Guys who dont like a vagina because of its shape or size are retarted. I would not care the size or shape because everyone is different.

  • http://twitter.com/MetalPhil Phil

    I really thought this was a great documentary, and while I understand the style, the big drawback was the nearly narcissistic focus on the narrator. If I could have changed anything, I would have changed that. But the documentary itself was fascinating and horrifying and to all the women out there, what the sculptor said is true: if you like someone, you like ’em for their bits as well. You’re fantastic as you are.

  • Vicentetorres

    this anchor really sucks, please remove this film. save your time.

  • Vicentetorres

    this anchor really sucks, please remove this film. save your time.

  • Vincent Towers

    hot dog women rocks!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BYNJ6TEM3ANZ7V54OS6EIAPWBA Sarah

    My boyfriend tries to encourage me to let myself get hairy down there, but now that I’ve started shaving I really can’t stop. It gets SO itchy =(

    I also have a strange pussy but it doesn’t seem to bother him. I’m okay with it too =P 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BYNJ6TEM3ANZ7V54OS6EIAPWBA Sarah

    My boyfriend tries to encourage me to let myself get hairy down there, but now that I’ve started shaving I really can’t stop. It gets SO itchy =(

    I also have a strange pussy but it doesn’t seem to bother him. I’m okay with it too =P 

  • Aurorareddancer

    It’s a vulva, not a vagina.  The vagina is the opening into which you insert a penis or tampon.  Everything on the outside is a VULVA.  Learn it.  Use it. 

  • Aurorareddancer

    It’s a vulva, not a vagina.  The vagina is the opening into which you insert a penis or tampon.  Everything on the outside is a VULVA.  Learn it.  Use it. 

  • wtf

    Really? Women spend the majority of their young adult and adult lives obsessing over their appearance and I, a very unjudgemental and sympathetic person, can’t get out of the friend zone?!  That fucking sucks.

  • http://twitter.com/ejg06 ejg06

    Good work over again! Thanks a lot
    Fashion
    bilgibank

  • http://twitter.com/ejg06 ejg06

    Good work over again! Thanks a lot
    Fashion
    bilgibank

  • Endlessdreamer09

    i was very insecure about my “lady bits” because I assumed that mine was weird . . . seeing this documentary however showed me that mine was really very normal . . . to the point that my “bits” looked the way many desired there’s to be! I was shocked, to say the least. I have a horrible amount of body issues that affect my relationships and how I relate to people, and to see that at least some part of me was normal was a HUGE relief! So, thank you so much for this eye-opening documentary! I just wish every woman could see this and know that they’re alright just the way they are . . . at least where our bits are concerned 😉

  • Anonymous

    It’s just not a perfect world. And Muslim’s are really fucked up.

  • Guest001

    “I’m clearly entirely the wrong person to be doing this documentary. Oh shit!”

    That’s kinda what I was thinking the entire time I was watching this. I’d glad we both agree on something.

  • Guest001

    “I’m clearly entirely the wrong person to be doing this documentary. Oh shit!”

    That’s kinda what I was thinking the entire time I was watching this. I’d glad we both agree on something.

  • Guest001

    “I’m clearly entirely the wrong person to be doing this documentary. Oh shit!”

    That’s kinda what I was thinking the entire time I was watching this. I’d glad we both agree on something.

  • SHAUN

     
    EMILY
    HAIRY PUSSIES AREN’T THE A PROBLEM FOR MOST GUYS.
    IT’S WHEN THEY FEEL THAT THEY NEED A FULL BACKPACK,
    MACHETTY AND INSECT REPELLENT TO GO NEAR THERE,
    THAT MAKES IT’S A PROBLEM!
    I AM A GUY (MALE) AND HERE’S A FACT THAT MIGHT
    STARTLE YOU.
    MOST GUYS LIKE A HAIRY PUSSY, SO LONG AS IT’S WELL
    GROOMED!
    YOUR PUSSY IS A PART OF YOU, A PART OF THE WHOLE
    PACKAGE, AS IT WERE AND YOUR GROOMING HABBITS SAY
    A LOT ABOUT YOU!
    I HOPE THIS HELPS?       ^@_;^

  • oscar

    What type of men are these girls in the documentary talking about? There is another world full of men expecting quite the contrary: a real pussy, not a boring one. Men for whom baggy and chubby vaginas are just the promising entrance to the desirable, pleasurable and beautiful body of a woman.

  • oscar

    What type of men are these girls in the documentary talking about? There is another world full of men expecting quite the contrary: a real pussy, not a boring one. Men for whom baggy and chubby vaginas are just the promising entrance to the desirable, pleasurable and beautiful body of a woman.

  • Avocado

    Those children are going to grow up with the coolest mum on the block!

  • Avocado

    Those children are going to grow up with the coolest mum on the block!

  • McRub

    The vagina is not what is discussed in this film. It is the vulva surrounding the vagina. Geez, they must really be experts on the topic if they don’t even know the right word to describe this part of the female anatomy.

  • Anonymous

    It does seem strange to worry about different shape
    vaginas.  Maybe we should have a vagina beauty
    contest.

    I also think we should question the practice of taking the
    foreskin off the penis – especially from the boy when he has no say in the
    matter.

  • Anonymous

    It does seem strange to worry about different shape
    vaginas.  Maybe we should have a vagina beauty
    contest.

    I also think we should question the practice of taking the
    foreskin off the penis – especially from the boy when he has no say in the
    matter.

  • hspdk

    This quite possibly the DUMBEST doc I’ve ever seen. This lady is acting like it’s her pussy or her kids. It’s their body, let them do what they will. I hate how she’s making it seem like you’re killing your child. It’s ridiculous how she’s behaving. Ladies, PLEASE don’t listen to this crazy bitch, you have your own body to do what you will. Whether you want to get something taken care of not, the choice is completely yours. Never do something to yourself that doesn’t make you happy, screw everyone else. Seriously if I met this bitch, I’d hit her in the face because of all her disinformation. Bottomline, it’s your body, do what makes you happy, whatever it may be.

    • Emmysoccer

      if she didn’t act the way she did, I might not have felt as empowered as I did when i saw this documentary. it’s my body, and i want to learn to be more confident with it. I thank her for this documentary. it’s not just an issue of my body, my decision. maybe you don’t see it, but it also was a response to unsaid cries for help for many insecure women and an issue of awareness to other men and women. 

  • Xisoverated

    Can i just say though it is in a sense mens fault here. Unfortunately there are some utter tossers who do judge girls in this way but thank god there are otthers who care enough not to. Everything we girls do in terms of preening and cosmetic surgery and everything will inevitably ALWAYS come down to men, we wanna impress men and we want men to find us attractive and in the long run that what lookign nice is all about, being attractive to the opposite sex. So like i said, its is in a sense the fault of men. But if your guy loves you enough he wotn giving a flyign fuck what your fadge loks like and if he does then get rid of the cunt.

    • Mart

      Yep, and there are just as many skanks out there who berate men for “appearance” reasons. You gals are no better in this regard, so you can drop the holier-than-thou crap.

      And PLEASE, we guys don’t have it any easier when it comes to “looking nice” for the opposite sex. We too have to groom, hit the gym, etc. Never mind the fact that we also have to come up with the financial collateral to pursue dating. After all, no romance without finance!

      Now then, with regards to this “documentary,” that girl Rosie (sp) is a total whack job (pun intended). She fully deserves/ed every bit of pain and discomfort that was coming to her for being such an idiot! Bleeding pretty badly? REALLY?? What else do you expect when you have a piece of highly vascularised tissue sliced off?

      • Noir_provocateur

        Just as many? OH HELL NO THERE AREN’T! Coming from a girl who has been sexually harassed since the ripe age of 13 because I had breasts I can tell you now that you have no idea!

    • Fleiy

      yah because girls never make fun of guys with small dicks…..

    • Fleiy

      yah because girls never make fun of guys with small dicks…..

    • Fleiy

      yah because girls never make fun of guys with small dicks…..

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  • Paoloj27

    why are people so fucking unsecure?? This is the only reason why we are put down by those fucking 100 people that rule the world..  THEY MADE SURE u had insecurities, but guess what.. its is BULLSHIT…you are EVERYTHING!!! dont like a hairy pussy?? DONT FUCK IT!!! you dont wanna shave?? FUCKING DONT!!! AAARRRRGGGHHHHH Its so damn simple…

  • Wareingjill

    Well, just a reaction more to the posts than the video.  It would seem that the women defending going natural are just looking at it emotionally, and those defending surgery are defending their point aestethically.  The men however seem to be of the same mind, just leave it alone, I would also like to point out that the self claimed bi-sexual is of teh same mind.  maybe women shouldn’t change what’s not broken.  I’ve always found female genitalia rather repulsive, but I wouldn’t be caught dead sticking any part of me in some damp, dark hole either.  men do seem to enjoy both, I think it’s a matter of taste and preferences and the unique mystery of female genitalia are part of what make it an adventure for men.

  • Wareingjill

    Well, just a reaction more to the posts than the video.  It would seem that the women defending going natural are just looking at it emotionally, and those defending surgery are defending their point aestethically.  The men however seem to be of the same mind, just leave it alone, I would also like to point out that the self claimed bi-sexual is of teh same mind.  maybe women shouldn’t change what’s not broken.  I’ve always found female genitalia rather repulsive, but I wouldn’t be caught dead sticking any part of me in some damp, dark hole either.  men do seem to enjoy both, I think it’s a matter of taste and preferences and the unique mystery of female genitalia are part of what make it an adventure for men.

  • j.

    Xisoverated, I disagree with you. Sure, as women, we try to look attractive for men but that isn’t just a media-induced habit. Preening oneself and trying to attract the opposite sex is a biological, natural urge. Ultimately, it is up each woman to make the choice for herself as to how far she is willing to alter her natural appearance for men. Just as there are men who judge women on trivial aesthetic matters, there are women who do the same to men. Blaming men for your actions and insecurities might mean that you need to gain some self-confidence and take responsiblity for your own actions.

  • Hetero

    Why? its a sick world….

  • Hetero

    Why? its a sick world….

  • Anonymous

    Hugh says it, below, so to speak. The reason men have become turned on by the Brazilian Bikini Lines is due to porn. Pornographers entrain men and women to view and remember images associated with women as completely exposed. The more sinister intention is, of course, to entrain men to get turned on by pre-pubesent (?) girls. That’s a fact, Jack. I did it once at the suggestion of a pervy boyfriend when I was a teen,and thought I looked so silly, childish and unsexy I never did it again, nor would I. Although I’ve never met a man since that required a bald pussy to get turned on, it’s probably because they’re not into porn and neither am I. Emily, you may as well stand on your head and walk around that way if that’s all those porn-riddled jerks are interested in; tell them to take a hike; better still, to grow up and out of teenage jerk-off porn. Pubes are sexy, secret and nice to wear and touch.

  • The Grand Wazoo

    This best watched with your girlfriend at 2 in the morning.

  • The Grand Wazoo

    This best watched with your girlfriend at 2 in the morning.

  • The Grand Wazoo

    This best watched with your girlfriend at 2 in the morning.

  • S.Poet

    The men who gave that young girl the idea that she needed some sort of surgery need to get bent.  It is ridiculous how women are trained to believe they are not beautiful.  This makes me sad.

  • Found it

    The perfect vagina is on a woman.

  • Found it

    The perfect vagina is on a woman.

  • Found it

    The perfect vagina is on a woman.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_B5AMVFBGDV57J45TGVN7O7AOWU Dodge

    OMG, don’t do it…. For the love of God there are PLENTY of us labia lovers out there… The horror of that documentary… Women so easily wanting to mutilate themselves for the sake of acceptance! Just terrible. I seek women with nice amounts down there to run my tongue through. Sorry, but that is an extremely attractive part of a woman’s anatomy. As far as hair though… And again, sorry, but I shaved myself, I prefer shaved, that’s something that is much different to female genitalia.

  • Tesalala

    i am super self-conscious about my va-ja but mostly just because its so hard to keep perfectly trim i’m ok with the way it looks other than that i think implants in your downstairs is silly.

  • Sars

    I am appalled after watching this… First of all, my vag does not look like any of those from the guys mould wall, and second of all i cant believe women are so concerned with how thier vagina looks and go to such extremes to change it.

  • Daboo

    as for as in our african culture the longer the better.why do they cut them off its not fair.

  • Daboo

    as for as in our african culture the longer the better.why do they cut them off its not fair.

  • Daboo

    as for as in our african culture the longer the better.why do they cut them off its not fair.

  • Daboo

    as for as in our african culture the longer the better.why do they cut them off its not fair.

  • Daboo

    as for as in our african culture the longer the better.why do they cut them off its not fair.

  • Daboo

    true to that it doesnt matter what it looks like its wonderfully made and designed to suite you.be happy about your vigina.say it openly i dont care what you say about me but i love my vigina,this is me and you cant change me.great educational video.

  • Daboo

    true to that it doesnt matter what it looks like its wonderfully made and designed to suite you.be happy about your vigina.say it openly i dont care what you say about me but i love my vigina,this is me and you cant change me.great educational video.

  • BigGuest

    I only started waxing a year ago at the age of 34. My partner of 13 years asked why and said not to bother with all that. I continue to do it from time to time, but I wouldn’t want another man who expected it. I get the feeling he is rare, and if i was ‘out there’ it would feel compulsory. How are we ever going to reintroduce a normal natural bush back into society? There is no stopping this epidemic, it goes right back to being made to feel unattractive if you don’t wear deoderant. Consider the recent adverts asking us to worry about the ‘attractiveness’ of our armpits, shaving and deoderant aside, they now need to lure men in too!

  • Cheeki_chickn

    This documentary is fantastic. Really has changed my life, I have more confidence in myself. Everyone really is different and they should be proud of it.

  • Cheeki_chickn

    This documentary is fantastic. Really has changed my life, I have more confidence in myself. Everyone really is different and they should be proud of it.

  • Gavin_sweeney

    girls with hair on the their fanny are disgusting. Theres nothing worse than a hairy pussy

    • Emmysoccer

      I know something that’s worse. A person that lacks understanding and empathy.  I personally choose to get it all waxed… but you act like hair is something abnormal and unnatural. Grow up! Even to get waxed, one has to let the hair grow out some. 

      It is your preference, but you’re harsh with your words. 

  • Gavin_sweeney

    girls with hair on the their fanny are disgusting. Theres nothing worse than a hairy pussy

  • Paigerawks

    The guys in the park made me smile.

  • Paigerawks

    The guys in the park made me smile.

  • Pleasingsquirrel

    This documentary seems well-intentioned and honest, but also fails on a certain level. It sort of assumes that men who would prefer a certain look and are honest about it are all bastards, and men who are completely without opinion are the ideal. But the truth is, everyone has a preference in how they want their partner to appear. I’m sorry, but they do. Maybe our partners don’t match what we hope for in appearance, but prove to be good in many of the other important areas, and we move past it. Or maybe we seek it out until we find someone who satisfies both qualities. But either way, this documentary is not actually brave enough, and to be honest, it’s both a little class-ist, and a little safe and censorious. For one thing, the goal of having a pussy is not always to have kids, at least not for everyone. And some people DO have abnormally large labia that they’d either prefer to have removed or are happy to keep. And some men DO judge women on that, and some don’t. And importantly, women talk about the size, shape and usefulness of men’s cocks ALL THE TIME. So why is a show like ‘Sex and the City’, and the frank discussion we see on that show liberating, and an equivalent discussion for men considered sexist? 

    Because we’re actually afraid of how many different opinions there are out there, and how, despite what we might feel internally, some of these opinions may suit others better than ours do. 

    It’s a selfish way to feel, and judgemental, even though it’s kind and compassionate. I think plastic surgery is a personal choice. 

    • TL

      excellent points

  • Anonymous

    Not really interesting in downloading some BS plugin just to watch this, thanks.  I’ll watch some of the other ones.

  • Anonymous

    Not really interesting in downloading some BS plugin just to watch this, thanks.  I’ll watch some of the other ones.

  • ArmymomSTL

    What a great informative video….. I was unsure as to what it was going to be about but was drawn into it by peoples “unhappy” perception of that perfect “vagina”.  It actually made me feel quite comfortable about my own….. I was always unsure of it as a teen, but I am very happy with “her” now….. and have never been ridiculed by my past lovers…. Thanks guys!  :-) 

  • ArmymomSTL

    What a great informative video….. I was unsure as to what it was going to be about but was drawn into it by peoples “unhappy” perception of that perfect “vagina”.  It actually made me feel quite comfortable about my own….. I was always unsure of it as a teen, but I am very happy with “her” now….. and have never been ridiculed by my past lovers…. Thanks guys!  :-) 

  • ArmymomSTL

    What a great informative video….. I was unsure as to what it was going to be about but was drawn into it by peoples “unhappy” perception of that perfect “vagina”.  It actually made me feel quite comfortable about my own….. I was always unsure of it as a teen, but I am very happy with “her” now….. and have never been ridiculed by my past lovers…. Thanks guys!  :-) 

  • john deaton

    Ladies, girls, women, et al.   You do not need an operation.  If there is a fella in your life making you feel bad, FORGET HIM.  You are each uniquely beautiful.  Remember, the folk you see on TV and the movies have HAD all sorts of surgery and make-up to cause them to APPEAR shinier than you.  It’s all an illusion.  You’re the real ones.  You’re the right ones!  Okay, this is sounding like some kind of affirmation crap, but the surgeries are the wrong thing.  YOU are the real thing.  Lovely!

  • Lildude2001us2000

    OMG circumcision. ……i come from a culture which circumcises all the males….
    trust me i would not have done it if i had a choice…i was only 6 . it hurt so bad down there .
    please do not try to explain or educate your childeren it is so fucking preverted.   let the teachers or docs do it..holy crap

  • Lildude2001us2000

    OMG circumcision. ……i come from a culture which circumcises all the males….
    trust me i would not have done it if i had a choice…i was only 6 . it hurt so bad down there .
    please do not try to explain or educate your childeren it is so fucking preverted.   let the teachers or docs do it..holy crap

  • Suzanne

    I do not rate this documentary highly, it seemed to drift aimlessly and be rather pointless.

  • Suzanne

    I do not rate this documentary highly, it seemed to drift aimlessly and be rather pointless.

    • None

      Yes, drift aimlessly is a good critique.

      I also found that Lisa Robers, the woman “fronting” the documentary, made it more about herself and her own feelings than it should have been. She’s like a Louis Theroux, except she doesn’t ask good questions and isn’t all that interesting.

    • None

      Yes, drift aimlessly is a good critique.

      I also found that Lisa Robers, the woman “fronting” the documentary, made it more about herself and her own feelings than it should have been. She’s like a Louis Theroux, except she doesn’t ask good questions and isn’t all that interesting.

  • Suzanne

    I do not rate this documentary highly, it seemed to drift aimlessly and be rather pointless.

  • Sageman

    The sixteen year old turned out to be Jessie Slaughter…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Mahma/100001233628685 Joe Mahma

    Woah, I guess I have a completely different idea of what a “perfect vagina” looks like.

  • Thecloudswillattack

    lol!!!

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  • Simeonradivoev

    A perfect Vagina should be able to do a numerical simulation of differential equations.

  • Henry01

    this lady is so sexist against men and so hypocrytical she’s used a couple of words and a massive assumption about men, to make her feel better about her own insecurity. She is conservative.

  • Karenbochinski

    My heart goes out to these women. They have very good health and they would actually have a doctor put a knife to their vagina (a place where no one looks) and risk having health problems for the rest of their lives. I had no idea vaginas had a certain look. I barely look down there to see if it looks ok. This is very strange. My goodness what is this world coming to. They should see a burn victim who is deformed and needs the money for surgery and give the money to them instead of their vaginas. These women should help out people who are true victims and get joy and self esteem for helping out those in need. They would totally forget about their vaginas. Sad, sad indeed!

  • Ttt60

    love the double standard with the two painters. are we to believe that no women blatantly joke about male size in the same way..

  • None

    This documentary is terrible mainly because Lisa Rogers makes herself, and her personal feelings and anecdotes, too much a part of it.

    It’s more about what she thinks, and when someone else does offer something that might be worth exploring, she reduces it to how what she thinks again.

    The title should be “What I think about vaginas and their place in society: A Personal Journey”

    Very poor, and a shame since it’s an interesting subject.

    And can someone from Documentary Heaven explain why it has remained on the “popular” tab for months? It’s not rated all that high. That popular list is clearly meaningless/not updated.

  • None

    This documentary is terrible mainly because Lisa Rogers makes herself, and her personal feelings and anecdotes, too much a part of it.

    It’s more about what she thinks, and when someone else does offer something that might be worth exploring, she reduces it to how what she thinks again.

    The title should be “What I think about vaginas and their place in society: A Personal Journey”

    Very poor, and a shame since it’s an interesting subject.

    And can someone from Documentary Heaven explain why it has remained on the “popular” tab for months? It’s not rated all that high. That popular list is clearly meaningless/not updated.

  • BeefcurtainFan

    damn neo-liberal feminist.  Lisa Rodgers should be lesbian, and stop imposing her standards on others.  The UK film industry must be fucked up beyond belief to produce this.

  • None

    Can we get this mediocre documentary OFF the “most popular” list sometime this decade, PLEASE?

    It is not rated that high, and deservedly so. The woman who hosts/steers the documentary has a terrible habit of making it all about herself and what she thinks. She misses opportunities to ask obvious and interesting follow-up questions of the people she talks to….instead cutting out when something is said that affects her and then regurgitating the interview back at us through the prism of her own (mis)conceptions.

    I could only watch half of it….her wasted opportunities to generate some real insight and her persistent habit of injecting herself (no pun intended) into the subject became too annoying.

  • None

    Can we get this mediocre documentary OFF the “most popular” list sometime this decade, PLEASE?

    It is not rated that high, and deservedly so. The woman who hosts/steers the documentary has a terrible habit of making it all about herself and what she thinks. She misses opportunities to ask obvious and interesting follow-up questions of the people she talks to….instead cutting out when something is said that affects her and then regurgitating the interview back at us through the prism of her own (mis)conceptions.

    I could only watch half of it….her wasted opportunities to generate some real insight and her persistent habit of injecting herself (no pun intended) into the subject became too annoying.

  • None

    Can we get this mediocre documentary OFF the “most popular” list sometime this decade, PLEASE?

    It is not rated that high, and deservedly so. The woman who hosts/steers the documentary has a terrible habit of making it all about herself and what she thinks. She misses opportunities to ask obvious and interesting follow-up questions of the people she talks to….instead cutting out when something is said that affects her and then regurgitating the interview back at us through the prism of her own (mis)conceptions.

    I could only watch half of it….her wasted opportunities to generate some real insight and her persistent habit of injecting herself (no pun intended) into the subject became too annoying.

    • http://profiles.google.com/friedtoast Michael M.

      Go make a documentary of your own since you know which questions you want answered. 

  • None

    Can we get this mediocre documentary OFF the “most popular” list sometime this decade, PLEASE?

    It is not rated that high, and deservedly so. The woman who hosts/steers the documentary has a terrible habit of making it all about herself and what she thinks. She misses opportunities to ask obvious and interesting follow-up questions of the people she talks to….instead cutting out when something is said that affects her and then regurgitating the interview back at us through the prism of her own (mis)conceptions.

    I could only watch half of it….her wasted opportunities to generate some real insight and her persistent habit of injecting herself (no pun intended) into the subject became too annoying.

  • Mjp123

    emilly you nast hairy pussied bitch. Shave that shit please. Wax if you get razor burn. Hairy pussy  is gross.

    • Bob

      true dat

  • Mjp123

    Listen To shon baydur. He speaks the truth truth

  • Happily Engaged

    I’m engaged and happily in a relationship and I personally dislike a hairless vagina. Nicely trimmed is just fine. 

  • Happily Engaged

    I’m engaged and happily in a relationship and I personally dislike a hairless vagina. Nicely trimmed is just fine. 

  • Y’allrcrazy

    godDAMN you women are a sensitive bunch aren’t ya?

  • Y’allrcrazy

    godDAMN you women are a sensitive bunch aren’t ya?

  • ray

    the perfect vagina…. is the one my wieners in

  • Yodahe Zemichael

    in east africa, they call this female “circumcision”.
    And to the traditional people, it is a normal procedure on newborns.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GSIEDZDLI6TNOF6I2XTXTCNETE firstrcr

      No they don’t, “circumcision” is sewing the parts together so as to not allow penetration.

  • Yodahe Zemichael

    in east africa, they call this female “circumcision”.
    And to the traditional people, it is a normal procedure on newborns.

  • Eric

    They cut off the sexiest part?  Wow! That’s too bad.  Personally, large inner labia are really exciting.  They do what shaving does — only way, way better.  Any man who has a wife or girlfriend like this is very lucky.

    I’m wondering if this has more to do with shame than looking good.  Large labia are so extremely, overtly sexual, it may be too much for some women.  Are they so obsessed with being the “good” girl that they would do this?

    It’s not really their fault.  Society says men have to marry the “good” girl — and women play the part.  But they really want to be sexual, and as they reach their sexual peak and any children are 4 – 5 years old, they seek out true sexual excitement, an opportunity to be the way they really want to be, to get what they really want sexually.

    It destroys a lot of marriages.  Threw mine on the rocks.  My wife couldn’t tell me what she really wanted.  She was afraid of what I would think.

  • Tabitha

    I have become self-conscious since my pubic hair turned grey.. Instead of just my usual trim, I’ve joined the shaving train. It makes me feel younger and sexier. My boyfriend loves me just the way I am; I did this for myself.

  • Tabitha

    I have become self-conscious since my pubic hair turned grey.. Instead of just my usual trim, I’ve joined the shaving train. It makes me feel younger and sexier. My boyfriend loves me just the way I am; I did this for myself.

  • Tabitha

    I have become self-conscious since my pubic hair turned grey.. Instead of just my usual trim, I’ve joined the shaving train. It makes me feel younger and sexier. My boyfriend loves me just the way I am; I did this for myself.

  • SoFarAway

    I find it interesting that it’s rarely pointed out on here that there are many other places in the world that don’t consider shaving down under a common practice. Take Japan, for instance. Personally, I shave it mostly off, with a hint to remind people I’m a woman and not a child. I went to a lot of public baths in Japan and felt quite out of place regarding that – there was a lot of bush! I was always the only woman who had shaved, unless of course there was another foreigner there! From my experience, most women do not shave in Japan. I shaved partially because it feels better I guess but mostly because that’s what’s expected here. People say that it’s more smelly and harbors more bacteria. Don’t you think the Japanese, generally being a very hygenic group of people, and evolution would consider that? We grow hair to help us. Nose hair and eyelashes filter debris and pubic as well as underarm hair act as a filter, something to cut down on friction and some say as a way to help emit pheromones. I’m not sure why the majority of Western Culture has latched on to this notion that hairless is better, but I think it’s dumb to justify it with reasoning about cleanliness. It’s purely a cultural preference.

  • Guest

    the part where she asked some guys what their idea of a perfect vagina is, which can only result in detailed description of… well of what their idea of a perfect vagina is really pissed me off.

    You cannot ask them that and then be annoyed when the give you an opinion.  Did you expect them to say “Oh, whatever I have no opinion. Never thought about it really”? 

    The subject matter YOU CHOSE does not make them sexist.

  • Guest

    the part where she asked some guys what their idea of a perfect vagina is, which can only result in detailed description of… well of what their idea of a perfect vagina is really pissed me off.

    You cannot ask them that and then be annoyed when the give you an opinion.  Did you expect them to say “Oh, whatever I have no opinion. Never thought about it really”? 

    The subject matter YOU CHOSE does not make them sexist.

  • Guest

    the part where she asked some guys what their idea of a perfect vagina is, which can only result in detailed description of… well of what their idea of a perfect vagina is really pissed me off.

    You cannot ask them that and then be annoyed when the give you an opinion.  Did you expect them to say “Oh, whatever I have no opinion. Never thought about it really”? 

    The subject matter YOU CHOSE does not make them sexist.

  • Woflwood207

    This video was reccomended to me by me Sexuality and Society professor, and I must say that I really enjoyed it. To see how some people make such an effort to learn about themselves, accept themselves as they are, and choose not to take such drastic measure to fit in to a socially constructed view. If anything, I learned one thing to teach my son as he get older. That he should not only like himself for how he is, but to like and accept anyone he becomes involved with for how they are and to not place them in a posistion where they feel the need to change. That seems to be the most important thing that I have learned from this documentory. Very well done!

  • Roy

    The host Lisa Rogers is a complete moron and is far too immature to narrate a documentary like this one. She is extremely self-righteous in her opinion that those who wish to modify their bodies in any way are in need of psychological help. Okay, we get it — You don’t like the idea of other women having issues with the appearance of their vaginas. Who are you to say that they shouldn’t feel this way? What gives you the right to make assumptions on why they feel this way and to act all superior about it? And yes, she is a total hypocrite because when she is about to receive some critical feedback from the plastic surgeon about the appearance of her own vagina, she is self-admittedly nervous about it. I thought her message with this documentary was for women to accept themselves as who they are and to not be insecure about their appearance? If this is her message, why is she nervous?

    On top of that, her naivety and immaturity is exemplified at 36:05 when speaking to a counselor about how “every vagina has a story,” she starts giggling like a school girl. What’s so funny about this? The vagina is a body part that is closely associated to some of life’s most emotionally charged experiences for a woman. For example, experiencing her first period, losing her virginity, sex with her first true love, child birth, in some cases rape, sexual abuse, etc. Is it that hard to empathize with the possibility of a woman having some kind of repressed emotional issues about her vagina?

    “The Perfect Vagina” would’ve been far better documentary if it were presented by someone else. Lisa Rogers was the worst thing about it. This one gets a big two thumbs down from me.      

  • None

    This doc has been #3 on the popular list for over six months, which tells me the popular list is not updated.

    This doc is not very good. The host makes it all about her, and she does a lousy job of interviewing the people she does talk to. She got confused….believed the audience would be more interested in her own personal anecdotal experience and judgement (which is not all that insightful).

  • kazoo

    Maybe it’s just because I’m an older man (54) but I don’t really like a shaved vagina. I think it’s silly to insist a woman do it. If a woman wants to shave and I liked her than it really wouldn’t matter. It really is cosmetic and superficial.

  • Guest

    I’m having a hard time taking this seriously with the constant slang euphemisms for vagina.

  • Nwawallace

    I think most men get a similar surgery at birth. This is a fucking disgrace. This isn’t about men being sexist towards women or women feeling the pressure more then men do. This is about women making a bigger deal about their surgery then men apparently do. Anybody around here experience circumcision in later life? I think that’s equally as bad. But you don’t see any men complaining that they may have got it done because their significant others just thought it would look better. For most men, this isn’t even a choice they get to make. And alot of men will grow up and wish their parents never had them circumcized. So screw this, at least you women have a choice. So this “Woe is me/us” shit should stop. Horribly Biased, very sexist and really over the top. 

    • Swooning Monkey

      I agree with some of what you say, but don’t forget about all the stone age places where they mutilate vaginas, so not all women get a choice. But I agree with you when it comes to male circumcision as I am against doing it to a baby (or forcing it on anyone regardless of age and all that)

      I guess what I am trying to say is that sexism goes more than one one way, and it’s all bad! People should mind their own bodies, do what they want with it and not do what they do not want to do with it and SHUT THE FUCK UP about other people’s bodies.

      We all seem to have preferences wheter we like it or not, and that’s ok, but what is not ok is shaming others, have no respect and making others feel bad!

  • Maclloyd2

    girls be proud of your vaginas! – horny guy

  • mac

    why does it say “actor’s voice” when it comes to the muslim girl wanting a hymenoplasty. 45:11
    sounds like a biased film against islam, damn brits.

  • Really?!

    perfectly normal women mutilating themselves because people are assholes. We are a doomed species.

  • Hunch

    Why is there a big advert for cosmetic surgery on this page?come on doc heaven?

  • Where is my shepherd?

    Most important to me in life is a vagina dot com

  • Rybro

    Interesting subject, but the ‘host’ seems so narrow minded. A lack of organisation and wider interviews hurts the legitimacy.

  • A guy who knows how guys think

    What the hell is wrong with ppl? A vagina is a fucking vagina it doesnt really matter if its hairess or not, unless ur a total pussy, I mean sex isnt supposed to be clean its supposed to be exciting and pleasurable, these women are focusing on the wrong thing because if your beautiful enough to get him into the bedroom you just need to be active enough so that he doesnt have enough time to lodge a complaint.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Anya-McDonald/100000511978147 Anya McDonald

    I HAVE READ THE COMMENTS FROM THE MEN WHO WANT US WOMEN TO SHAVE DOWN THERE, NOW I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO SHAVE THEIR PENIS AREA AS WELL AS THEIR BALL AREA AND SEE HOW WELL THEY LIKE IT AND HOW THEY HANDLE THE REGROWTH OF THE HAIR WITH ALL THE ITCHING THAT GOES ON.

    Yes, I know the caps were on, that’s because I am pissed, sick and tired of men trying to tell women what they should do, act, feel and what we need and want. My question is this who died and left them in charge?

  • Sarah

    I am a Canadian woman and I love my vagina just the way it is. This shit is messed up.

  • Jade

    What annoyed me is the host of the program didn’t show hers or even her mold and actually seemed a bit embarrassed by it.

  • Geordie

    I’ve seen a few lady bits in my time, and they’re all lovely! This ‘cosmetic’ surgery is daft.

  • Short

    no guy has ever wanted to touch me, hair or smooth… I have shaved since I was a teenager (about 14 years) and even at 27 now it’s routine. I have what’s called roast beef and after watching this I am semi-glad that I do

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  • Amissmetal

    Lisa Rogers – female Richard Hammond. :)

  • Brian

    Okay, girls can be free to do what they want with their body. As a guy, a girl is a girl to me. I’m interested more in who see is and what she’s like. Sure I like her physical features a lot but i’m not gonna get with a girl just cause of her boobs and vagina. Besides, there’s already so much pressure women get from stereotyping what a “perfect” girl should look like. Women should be free to look however they ant without feeling the pressure.

  • Anonymous

    Multiple posts on this.  More than on EnvironmentEvolutionHistoryHumanRightsNatureNews & PoliticsPerforming ArtsPhilosophyPsychologyReligionScienceSocietySpaceSpiritualTechnologyor War  and possibly similar post numbers as movies or music! Did anyone see the street Lisa passed by .   It was the Nile St.  

  • Ray

    ” love it, love your flaps”
    Her lovely voice echoes through my head :)

    • Solinyasinoocean

      aha~~nice sentence~

  • http://www.mitthoroskop.nu gratis horoskop

    hahaha, same here!!
    ————————————-
    ” love it, love your flaps” 
    Her lovely voice echoes through my head :)

  • Erin

    I shave down there and I find it offensive that you hint that men that like shaved vaginas are pedophiles. It is a matter of PREFERENCE. It is so insulting to say that because of my body hair, it makes men who are attracted to me, pedophiles.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Axel-White/1153414791 Axel White

    Anyone else having a documentary night?

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    • http://www.facebook.com/BrunoSweetdog Bruno Sweetdog

      Seriously good work!!!

  • yo

    Folks, you do realise that a lot of women nowadays want men to be shaven as well. Its nothing to do with sexism. Im 25 years old and shave because women of that age expect you to be shaven.
    For the record, i like when a women is unshaven but have been told by women that i should shave. My male friends shave as well. 
    Women on here will use any excuse to accuse men of being sexist, when you guys are often the first to insult men and their penis size, etc.. Queue, female quote regarding my penis size for having said this..
    Try seeing things from the other side and maybe you wont feel so hard done by.. rant over!!
       

  • DennaH

    Great doco.  I just wish people would realise that a “vagina” is only one passage in a woman’s genitals, not the name of the whole thing.  It’s like looking at a woman with a shapely bum and saying ‘wow, nice anus’.   The correct word is vulva. 

    • Pabby

      i don’t think anyone really cares hun…..sorry!

    • Anus Destroyer

      Sincerely  I would rather watch a movie called ”The perfect vagina” than another called ”The perfect vulva”…

  • Tristan

    I honestly wish all women would realize that men don’t particularly have any interest in a “perfect vagina”. I have been with a number of women and the way there vagina looks has never been an issue. I admit hair has been an issue but I don’t ask my girlfriend to shave it on my behalf, in fact I prefer her to have some hair cause I like the fact that she’s a Woman! You should look like one if you choose! That being said there are those extreme cases where the labia is enormous and it would be understandable for a woman to choose this for self confidence. I personally see the beauty in a unique vagina and think that it makes it more special for me that my girl is this beautiful flower. This beautiful flower is with me.

  • Jonno

    Australian Guy 28yrs old
    Just want to let all the woman of the world that there is no such thing as an ugly vagina and that going through that kind of ordeal for anyone but yourself is absolutely ludicrous.

    I love all pussy’s, all shapes, colours and sizes. Less hair is cool, and I think most guys will tell you honestly that they don’t care as long as they’re getting in there…LOL

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=515633498 Audrey Bear Ndaba

    “ohhhh, mi lips eh burning” _ROTFLMAO

  • Pabby

    When around other young blokes of my age we definitely talk about whether women’s bits are nice or mingin. Smell and taste is the most important thing, then saggy flaps and hair. Trust me girls, whatever the fat sweaty men who try to groom women on the internet by posting ‘i really like it’ or ‘be proud of yourself’ comments agree or not, the good looking lads DO care. Keep it trim and smelling nice and surgery usually isn’t necessary, but if it looks like a hairy donner kebab, don’t be surprised if you have a succession of very short relationships.

    • Laddy and the Blokes

      So you’re a “good looking lad”?  Why don’t you show off with your photo, if it’s true?
      Do all of your trimmed girlfriends have long relationships?
      “Surgery USUALLY isn’t necessary”?!?  Have you and your little blokes ever even seen one in real life?

      • tony123

        wo wo wo wo.. calm down hun. I to do agree with the guy. and I have had a few 3 or 4 year relationships. If a woman, has an ugly vagina, its more than off putting. but to be honest, I have never seen one that bad. the ones in the show, I hope are very unique and most women have nice – mediocre vaginas. But, the young girl in the documentary, I was on her side. No man would want to give oral to that. And I love to give oral!  

        • http://www.facebook.com/Adam4tvs Adam Kontras

          You are out of your ever-loving mind.  The young girl was perfectly normal.  What the fuck is wrong with people.

          • Werwer

            I think he means the young girl in the photo with the huge wizard robe ‘lips’ that the dr. shows in his office as the ‘reason he does this work’. And not the other young girl that just had 1-2 cm removed because she wanted the perfect vajayjay.   

            p.s. That doctor is full of shit, using such an Extreme example to justify the 99% of the operations which aren’t at all necessary, and just performed to give some women a deluded sense of ‘perfection, and of course to fill the doctors wallet. 

    • Kongkakingchongcha

      I’ve been thinking, since when people favours shaving their reproductive organs? I remember watching porns up to the 80s where people still have unshaven genitals. Isn’t it like hair where you wash it every day so it’s still fresh? Doesn’t it get itchy after a couple of weeks? Also, wouldn’t your hair become thick after a number of shaves?

      I just don’t understand why people would shave THERE…

      • Anonymous

        That’s why you wax. Every time you wax it comes in a little thinner and it takes a great deal longer to come back compared to shaving.

      • DaHerbalis

        Shaving doesn’t make hair thicker.

    • Stevenjamesisaacson

      I think you’re ‘Pabby’ still a virgin.

    • Romeo

      It’s definitely not a conversation I have ever had with my mates. Never met a vag I didn’t like. Well alright thats not true, but that was a hygiene issue not an aesthetic one.

    • Bbrown32

      I’m no shrinking violet but I’ve never been involved with other blokes in the kind of conversation you talk about. You hang around with a rather strange crew, if you don’t mind me saying so. Can’t you lot find something more edifying to talk about, such as genital warts or herpes? So forget personality, looks, sense of humour etc, if a GF doesn’t shave she’s out, and you’ll damned-well let your cronies know all about it, too? Quite, quite bizarre.

      • http://www.homepagedaily.com Simon Moore

        Simple healthy maintenance is important as in practising good hygiene
        and being well washed clean etc. Goes for blokes too, decisions on shaving, patterns, trimming bikin waxing etc is all personal choice, but being clean and hygienic obviously is an important factor, this may be what the above guy was alluding to? 

      • DH

        Well your probably a boring conservative middle aged old man who cant even remember what it smells like.

    • http://www.facebook.com/peteraarontaylor Razvan Leon York

       The ramblings of a closet homosexual.

  • Cactotron

    Interesting documentary; silly debate in the commentaries. Have you even watched the damn thing?

    Try to understand: it’s not about wether it’s legit or not for someone to dislike flaps or like hairless genitals. Everyone will agree that a person is entitled to their sexual and aesthetic preferences. Nothing wrong here. Simply cultural practices linked to one of humankind’s greatest constructions: erotism.

    The real problem, and I think that’s also what you should remember from the film, is the fact everyone thinks they have the right to tell a woman what she should or should not do with her body. And it’s not just about labiaplasty or shaving: it also involves sexual practices, piercings and tattoos, being pregnant, hairstyles, make-up and whatnot. The real debate isn’t about hair, of flaps, or anything else: it’s about the fact people still think today that they know better than a woman herself what is good for her. The double standard here is huge, and unfair. It’s pure sexism and people are seemingly blind to it. No one can tell a guy what he has to do; everyone can tell a girl what she has to do.

    Also, yes, it is kind of important that they didn’t use the correct term in the title. The female genitalia is already enough of a mysterious area for the scientific community without false ideas being spread in the population.

  • Guest

    as long as you shave it girls your all good

  • gper

    “Love it, love your flaps.” It is easy for her to say even after having her children, but think back to the photo of the 16 year old girl who wanted her surgery. I saw the photo and thought it didn’t look normal…it must be difficult lugging around such a huge insecurity, especially in an area of your body that most people share only during the most intimate moments. The labiaplasty, like any cosmetic surgery, is just that – cosmetic – meant to improve your appearance and possibly improve self esteem and confidence, even if no one else can see it.

  • https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ryuus-Wardrobe/189604487801509 Andrea E.

    I use to be self conscious about my “flaps”. But I found out that the more skin there is, the more sensitive the outside and inside is. Which I find to be true, in my case. Its a buffer between the outside world, and the nerves. 

    Any man I’ve ever been with LOVES how long they are. And they aren’t THAT long. I use to be scared that someone would see it and laugh. Never had any complaints except they get a bit in the way, at first entry. I keep it clean, I keep it trimmed, it smells nice. If a man is so shallow that he thinks my cave looks gross because of something I can’t control, then I don’t want to be fucking him to begin with…

  • Anonymous

    Was that a 16-year-old? That wasn’t ordinary at all!

  • Sunshinearms

    Did it ever occur to anyone that these flabby vaginas are a result of monster cocks?  No virgin has lips like those mentioned in the film.  Another thing, hairy vaginas stink.  Urine that passes through the hair festers, its gross.  Keep it hairy if you aren’t interested in head ladies

  • HappyAsIAm

    I don’t shave and my labia are not particularly tight, and I’ve never had a guy complain. If he did, I’d find someone with a better sense of values who doesn’t want to put me through pain and discomfort. In fact, I have. He loves me as I am.

  • john

    As my comment, see http://www.brightonbodycasting.com/design-a-vagina.php which contains some good comments on the subject.

  • Lcoixna

     British tv is so much superior to that in the US.

  • sparklebean

    women getting the labia surgery, i think they aren’t victims of anything but their own stupidity.  if they want to mutilate themselves to cater to men, that’s their problem.  i’m happy with my yoni, i’ve studied pictures of it from every angle and know it like the back of my hand & yes it contracts & expands, looks different at different times. men who complain of saggy or baggy are ignorant about anatomy & have a personal problem with themselves, afterall i wouldn’t like balls that haven’t dropped so i have to wonder why a man would want everything ‘tucked in’.  weird weird weird. definitely not a trustworthy man.

  • Island Man

    Hi girls. I have no problem with any vaginas. The bigger the better.

  • Luke

    We get our foreskin cut off to make it nicer, there is no reason why women cant do the same

  • TL

    I see no difference between this and cosmetic dental surgery, except this is carries even less risk to the patient . PPl are just making a hullabaloo because it sex related.  As for the ” Your perfect the way you are” merchants. I’m sorry but somethings are more attractive that others, straight teeth same as neat vagina, are more attractive (ask any man), It’s their money, it their body. As for the shaving, it called grooming, same get a hair cut, its not the media or a modern phenomenon either, Greeks and romans, did it. It not pre-pubescent thing either by the same logic a man with a clean shaved face or shaved heads would look or be attempting look pre-pubescence. Lot of women like  clean shaven men, It doesn’t mean their closet pedophiles.

  • Tagmr2003

    Id just like to say,for some guys,doesnt matter hairy or shaven..i prefer natural…The only advice i could give for any woman…If you want oral..Keep it clean …
    Theres men who are fussie…Then theres men who arent…Its your porogative…

  • John

    Maybe 2012 will be the year this less-than-mediocre documentary makes it off Documentary Heaven’s “most popular” list. The list is stagnant, and this doc – which had potential to be good but wallows in the subjective reactions of the film-maker far too much – is evidence (along with the 7 rating) of that.

    The woman who made this doc far too often thinks watchers are interested in her little soliloquies about how something made her feel, or how her own personal upbringing and outlook on the world affects her own attitudes. Sure, there’s room for some of that, but it repeats and the result is interesting subjects are not probed (no pun intended) and you will often find yourself thinking “why didn’t you pursue that idea with that person instead of changing the conversation to yourself, again”

  • Macca007

    Don’t have to be completely bald ladies especially if you have sensitive skin,Just trim it right back so its neat and tidy,Also more hygienic.
    Same applies to us blokes, If it’s tidy down there you get more action if you get my drift and it is also more hygienic as well. I think both sexes don’t want any added dental floss when it’s bedroom time!
    For me I have a sensitive nose and hate most smells wether it’s food, perfume or body parts it doesn’t matter all seem too potent,So smell is most important, Then hair as that effects smell to some degree,Then it would be looks last!  But hey everyones different.  😉

  • Fupa

    Good god, women are so insecure they have to confront their “nonies” now?    I found the nony group far squickier than the actual 3 second surgery.    Now I know I have a superior, non hanging labia, but what to do about the Fupa?!!      Are there nony confronter groups in the states?     Damn ladies, shave it, wax it,  keep it clean.      Are we such whiners that we have to obsess about healthy body parts hardly anyone sees anyway?    P.S….I always thought a fanny was an ass.    So I learned two things today.     Nice to see the narrator become the patron saint of nonies, too. 

  • John

    I can only assume somebody has paid documentaryheaven to keep this mediocre doc near the top of the “most popular” list for a year now.

  • Anusan Moorthy
  • am

    these women are insane. they need therapy, not surgery.

  • Josh

    I don’t know if Pabby is right, I actually like the easier access to the labia minora and think that those that stick out are quite pretty. Shaving is also not that necessary either, this is subjective, please do be proud of yourselves.

  • Anusan Moorthy
  • guest

    I am a male in a relationship. My girlfriend shaves most of the time. I don’t ask her to. I don’t really care. That’s how she likes it. I don’t shave mine and she tells me to or to trim it all the time. I tell her that if she wants it shaved she can get in there and do it herself. It doesn’t bother me either way so I just leave it alone and we have fequent sex so it can’t be that much of a problem for her either.

  • gool

    whoolllyyyyyyyyyyyyy fuckkkkkk i would never cut off or glue on a pice to my penis. this vagina surgery is insane

  • elepantintheroom

    best suggestion, if you are personally ashamed of being loose, keep em closed.. its a muscle

  • Anonymous

    Ive taken photos of mine from many angles & seen its many moods & dispositions. It is clearly average. To prefer small lips is disturbing and wrong, just as a woman preferring a man who’s balls haven’t dropped would be.  Put down the airbrushed photos, grow up, acknowledge reality & love the person, not the body part.  If you cannot do that, please seek help for sexual dysfunction and issues with women.  Women are not the enemy, the media’s portrayal of us is, stop dumping on women & deal with your sh1t.  

  • Anonymous

    What I took away from this is that women are a bunch of extremely insecure nutters.

  • John

    I’m sorry ladies, but it is true. Who would want to give oral to a woman with a very disgusting vagina. Thankfully most aren’t (from my experience). I have never gone down on a woman and thought wooooooooo, that is horrible. Hygiene is just as important. If not more. If it smells for example, I am out of there. (smells very badly that is).. 

    So yeah, it does matter to men, and it is why so many women are shy about letting men go down on them, as they are cautious about what they guy will think of their vagina. But like I said, between me and all of my friends across the country who have relationships, flings, one night stands or whatever, I have only ever heard of two bad cases, and that must be out of 100’s of women. So it must be very rare to have a bad vagina! 

  • Urielh

    i understand the point of the guys about oral sex. even if i’m a girl. but at the same time, better not forget that a dick and balls aren’t reaaaaally what you could call pretty or “sexy”. balls look flask on all the men without exception. But i’ve never been put of buy that as long as i like the person. I don’t really care about the “ugliness” of the men’s appendices dandling around (^^) I don’t think about it, i just get excited by the idea of giving pleasure to the person i love. sex in itself isn’t “clean” and all pretty. it’s animal like, wet, slimy and noisy (and not always cute or sexy noises^^) but as long as you love the person you’re doing it with, you don’t really care about that. It’s fun and loving at the same time. I love giving oral sex to my lover, but you have to admit that complaining about the size of a girl’s labias or clitoris isn’t really logical if you consider the difference with putting even the hugest clitoris in your mouth to the size of a dick or balls ^^ haha
    But i wouldn’t be angry at men thinking like that either. i can understand their point. But i d think it lack a bit of objectivity. It’s a little like guy saying they’re put off by a woman with hair under their arm-pit (i don’t do that myself but i can understand that a woman doesn’t want to shave hers) when the guy complaining about it does have hair under his arm-pits himself ^^
    I know it’s not really the guys fault for thinking like that, because they grew up in a society where they have been sort of “lobotomized” or “brain washed” about that. It’s thus natural for them not to find it to their taste, and i understand. But at the same time, it would be nice if someday they can admit that they know it’s unfair to complain about it.
    “ok that’s not to my taste, but i admit that it’s unfair of me to ask something of someone that i don’t want to do myself”   or something like that^^

    As long as the guys don’t say it with disdain and in a really respectful way, i think that’s also fair to respect their tastes.

    At the same time, i don’t think you can say that the reason for the women to lack of self-esteem is “due” to a guy thinking un-objectively about the women appearance. Everyone is responsible of his/her own esteem and way of thinking.

    Girls saying that  guys are horrible for thinking like that (when they have been “brain washed” since childhood by the social context.In some african countries, for example, guys prefer girls with huge labias. so the women even stretch them as much as possible to find a husband. That’s cultural) , but at the same time saying that those guys are responsible for the women lack of self esteem is a huge contradiction. That would mean that guys are ust responsible for everything^^

    It reminds me of a lot of women i heard complaining about the fact that the guys don’t put the toilet-rim back down once they finish to pee….it always made me laugh^^They ask them to put it up to pee or they complain, but afterward they need to put it back down for the women to use comfortably ^^ haha so they ask the guy to do 2 “actions” when they don’t do any. what would be fair would be that they put it up and the women put it down. I know that it sounds like a strange comparison but that’s just the best way to resume a huge part of the feminism i found funny and ridiculous^^ Everything is the men fault!!!! haha^^So in conclusion : guys, you can have your own tastes, but don’t forget to be also objective about the fact that your genital appendices aren’t really pretty and that girsl still often put it in their mouths without making disgusting comments about it. ( if a girl does that , she’s stupid too:) and girls, try to work on your own self esteem as well. guys aren’t responsible for the fact that you don’t feel content about your boobs or your vagina. If a guy doesn’t like your vaginas, just find another one who won’t care. personally, i wouldn’t like to go out with someone who doesn’t accept my faults while he’s asking me to accept his. So if a guy doesn’t like my bobs or dunno what, i won’t complain, that’s his tastes, but i won’t feel that i’ve lost anything by not being with him. that’s all! ^^(ho and i also heard some women talking about guys dicks and mocking the guys about it…i find that plain stupid as well. But that’s a proof that it’s not a “guy thing” it’s just plain human to talk shit about someone behind his/her back ^^ So be misanthropic instead of being feminist ^^

  • mickael giunta

    I understand some concern about vagina surgery…but at least girl can do something about it…What about man????
    If we have small, or ugly penis we don’t have any solutions….And women are way worse then man in the sense that there are more women make fun of man penis that man making fun of “ugly” Vagina..
    PS. I think that all vagina are nice…i like to see differences on vaginas…imaginea world with all vagina looking the same… :-)

  • John

    Not a very good doc. The woman running the show personalizes it too much. yes, she has a vagina and therefore is qualified to talk about her vagina and experiences therein, but she interjects while others are speaking about interesting things to inform them of her own opinion, often when I got the sense that the person was just about to say something interesting. She needs to learn better documentary interview skills.

    And why this remains near the top of the most popular list for, what, over a year now, is a mystery. At 7.3 out of 10 it’s clearly not that popular. The most popular list is clearly broken, please fix it or remove it.

  • John

    I comment, it gets added, then disappears. What is going on with this perfect vagina comment board?

    Fix your most popular list.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1241211801 Dianna Dixon

    This documentary hit me harder than I expected, by a long shot.  Good job of seeing all sides, decent awareness of her own bias.

    Personally, my shape seems to be what everyone’s going for.  Not sure how that makes me feel.  I know I don’t like to be without pubic hair because it makes me feel like I’m eleven years old.  Lisa Rogers seems to agree, with her comment about the nicely tucked up bits looking childish.

  • http://www.facebook.com/liam.fionescu Liam Fionescu

    if a person is worried about your vagina, or for that matter your penis, then it proves why they are with you… if someone likes you for who you are then yo’ junk dusnt matter! and if they dont like it… then you dont even want to be with them

  • experienced dude

    if we are talking about sexuality one thing is sure, yes i like beauty, sensuality, pretty shaved/waxed vaginas and even more all these things+love. but as a man and from my own experience, the girls/women who have a great control of their muscles give more pleasure to men and have more pleasure themselves. so basically i’d say that like men do, working out, training etc.. to stay fit and perform well during sex, train your vaginas girls!! take the command, and then all others problems will disappear if your man is drooling after sex. 
    it’s not a legend that those exercices for vaginas exist since antiquity, some african women are training themselves to cut a banana with their vagina, and to finish that’s the same methods which are used to recover from a pregnancy nowadays. easy to find websites to advise you.
    you love what gives you happiness, nothing less, nothing more. parole of a man

  • Sinead

    I’m sorry but while the intended message that “theres no such thing as normal” and “love your body” is a nice ideal to have I think if your doing a non-biased documentary you should be prepared to have your opinion swayed. When she went to see the cosmetic surgeon at ~30mins in she refused to express any kind of acknowledgent that that 16 year olds “bits”picture was pretty horrebdous to be fair. Theres sticking to your opinion and then theres ignorance. if hers looked like that i’m sure she’d be following suit pretty lively.

  • Kaitlyn McWilliams

    SO I totally want to know how many of these male commenters even bother to trim their pubes (let alone wax or shave)? I mean balls, gootch, everything. Because if you have a fucking jungle in your pants you’re all a bunch of hypocrites. 

  • Dayna

    Thank you so much for making this. Absolutely eye-opening and dreadfully tragic. 

  • Dayna

    Thank you so much for making this. Absolutely eye-opening and dreadfully tragic. 

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  • Guest

    Why does it seem like so many men want to have sex with women who look like teens?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000067896292 Marshall West

    I’ve seen some vagina that wasn’t all that pleasing. It always has something to do with tons of hair or smell. Wash that shit! And then wash it again for christ sake! No one cares about the stupid lips. That’s just more character. Each one is different and has it’s own personality. Just wash please. I guess I do have a preference towards them being shaved for a practical reason. Oral sex and sometimes the hair can really chafe like crazy. Let me tell you that shit hurts like hell the next day and sometimes the skin will peel. It really sucks. The same thing sometimes happens with condoms. Yikes!

  • Elisa

    Haha, how is “Inside North Korea” a “related documentary”?

  • Mcguyver

    Perfectly beautiful woman making a documentary about vaginas. And the never ending saga of how women feel uncomfortable on their looks. My question is – When does this end? We put too much pressure on ourselves(women) – for what? And why? Get real people! C’moon.

  • Mcguyver

    Perfectly beautiful woman making a documentary about vaginas. And the never ending saga of how women feel uncomfortable on their looks. My question is – When does this end? We put too much pressure on ourselves(women) – for what? And why? Get real people! C’moon.

  • Mary_Ann

    She’s very feminist, and she’s very close minded, she imposed her opinion don’t giving any chance of understanding the true essence of such procedure.

  • LCC234

    Wow. This video (and many of the comments) made me cry. I have a similar appearance to Rosie and until very recently assumed I was normal (if not small!) I suppose I presumed this because the rest of me is so petite. (Although I do have large breasts for my size!) Since discovering that so many men find this ‘repulsive’ and ‘ugly’ I have felt tearful and unhappy on a daily basis. I can’t afford surgery and would be terrified to have my parts chopped off- but at the same time I’m not sure if I can enjoy sex again! The thing is everyone is allowed a preference (men) they may be attracted/not attracted on the basis of my hair, colourings, breast size etc…but that’s all visible! To be rejected for being ugly ‘down there’ once you’ve been intimate (and are already emotionally involved) breaks my heart. Wish I could be beautiful!!

    • Scotty

       Please don’t cry. The human body is a beautiful thing. If you have a guy that would make a comment like that, check out his nut sack and comment how ugly that looks. I can promise you he won’t think of surgery to repair that “defect”, and neither should you. Remember as you age your body will change, AND SO WILL HIS! One final note, only date grown ups. You shouldn’t care what “men” think. Your man perhaps, but  if thats what he is concerned about  then send him off. He will never be yours anyhow. If he doesn’t share your emotional involvement what good is he to you. If he is going to love you then it should be all of you that he loves. 

  • Anonymous

    How refreshing that Ms. Rogers so easily dismisses something as psychologically debilitating (and likely physically uncomfortable) as the sixteen year old’s Elephant Man “bits” so as not to cloud the message of the bias driven documentary.

  • Guest_fromGMail

    Sick all together. Too much ego. You as You are and You are beautyfull. Surgery is unnecessary until You need one for health reasons. + You will regreat it later

  • Mv

    i wish this girl’s sister realizes the damage her jokes made. that girl’s privates were normal. its really sad when insecurity originates from the people that are closest, the people that suppose to protect you. everyone has different shapes. nonetheless, it is good that such option is available to people who really suffer from deformation. i just think it should be more closely regulated.

  • Murphycann

    As a woman, this video was very sad.  Everyone has a right to love and appreciate their body and it is sad to think that many women have such an animosity towards their God given female parts.  On one hand, it is a blessing that there are surgeons available to give these women peace of mind with cosmetic surgery, but on the other hand, it is sad that it comes to that usually as a result of ridicule or disdain.  Everyone is different, every body is unique, everyone has preferences just as everyone has things that they might find not be so ideal ..be kind. someone might not like your parts either.  

  • The jew

    I have seen the perfect vagina.. and it is mine .. whenever she allows me, that is 

  • anon

    I think when she said that the vagina without the “hanging ham” wasn’t a real woman that hurt because that’s what mine looks like naturally. So I’m not a real woman?

  • 3InchBoy

    uh is it weird that ive got a full on boner watching this?! lol

  • Kiwigurl

    Great Doco..a sensitive subject handled well :) As for the blokes inane comments below..whatever guys you’ll do anything that stands still for long enough lolz

  • Anonymous

    This film is fabulous and should be shown in every secondary and middle school.  To teenage girls and guys.  I have believe that this increasing phenomenon has everything to the ubiquity of the porn industry.  Often times women (and men) want to just see what everyone else looks like and as many of us know, there’s not too many opportunities to actually look at other people’s genitalia without either coming across as a pervert or weirdo.  Enter porn–the one place that one can freely look at others genitalia at leisure.  I admit, my porn curiosity stemmed largely out of my desire to see what other women looked like in comparison to myself rather than any sexual drive.  Sadly, I found what Lisa discussed that most all of the models are smooth, pink and sans labia.  It did give me hesitation with my current boyfriend–although he, and the few other partners that I’ve had in my life never indicated that I looked less than lovely.  For the most part–guys are just happy to be having sex.  But this also goes back to only sleeping with someone you really care about and who really cares about you.  If you’re sharing your body and most intimate self with someone–shouldn’t it be after you’ve already established friendship/love and respect?  Does one really want to be intimate with someone that could or would determine the reason they’re not into you is because of your physiology–after they’ve had sex with you?  How cruel is that?

    I digress, I know that my comments and thoughts will not bring about reform to the porn industry, and for some–they feel empowered and inspired by it.  I just suggest that there be an alternative–a place where real women can see the vaginas of other real women.  In each instance in this film–the molding and the group therapy session–these women came out feeling more assured of themselves and much less judgmental.  Personally, I would love to see this display in efforts to educate people about their bodies. 

    Plastic sureogons, and cosmetic companies love preying on the insecurities of women–it’s big money.  They’re in no rush to encourage women or men to love their bodies.  For other similar themes I suggest checking out http://www.mybodygallery.com or Jean Kilbourne’s Killing Me Softly series.

    My hope is that people everywhere can simply learn to love what they’ve got!

  • XY

    You are in denial. You are deluding yourself and hoping others buy into your BS. You are being defiant and lazy, The desire for a hairless or groomed vulva is about the desire for the skin on skin contact.
    You already accept that grooming is better.
    You wax you lip and chin because of how it looks and feels. You already accept that it is unslightly and unfeminine to have a mustache or chin whiskers. Are men wrong for accepting it too. You wax or shave your pits because of how it looks and feels. Do you accuse men of being ‘pedo’ because they like it too? You wax or shave your legs because of how it looks and feels. Do you accuse men of being sickos because they like it too? It makes perfect sense that you and men enjoy the same effect on your vulva (and anus). When a guy explores you down there (with his hands, tongue or whatever body part that the two of you will enjoy) the pleasure is greatest if it doesn’t feel like beard. There is an advantage to being un-groomed and the advantage is a stronger scent which might increase the sensory stimulus of the moment … but that’s not always the preference. Of course you shouldn’t do it if it gives you razor burn! But shaving isn’t the only option. Waxing lasts longer and doesn’t hurt if you do it with regularity and start early. If you’re in your 30’s then you can’t start waxing because you’ll be too much of a cry baby to get to the point where it doesn’t hurt. If you’re 20 then you can start now and it’ll be smooth sailing when you’re older while the whiners complain about how it hurts because they couldn’t be bothered when they had the chance. 

  • Coldrendesign

    Somehow I think there is a connection between the porn industry and this movement to make women think they need to have a vagina with no labia, no hair and no color difference from that of the surrounding tissue.  It’s upsetting because it is basically telling women they need to have a vagina like a child and men to feel that they want this too. I don’t agree.  I am a normal american man who likes the differences in vaginal appearances and see it as part of the many visual and physical characteristics of women that make them special, different and sexy.  Labia are sexy, hair is normal and sexy, though I do believe a little hedge trimming isn’t a bad thing.  Oh and what about anal bleaching?? Why the hell would anyone feel this is normal and beautiful to do to themselves?  So ladies, please, dont cut off those beautiful and unique parts of your anatomy unless of course there is a medical concern that you need to address for serious health reasons.  Love the vagina you have, I do and I havent even seen it:)  Im glad someone is looking into this and BRAVO to Lisa Rogers for taking the initiative.  

    -George (Philadelphia)

  • Don

    Whats wrong with these girls. Those vaginas look great, stay away from the surgeons. Us guys love vagina’s in all shapes, getting surgery for this is just wrong.

  • Tom

    I’d love that job of waxing girls fannies.

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  • An Intelligent Guy

    Everyone really ought to stop being so self-concious. There is no such thing as an ugly vagina. I am fairly certain that a lot of these people getting the surgeries are not very mentally stable. Aesthetics should not cause such a massive increase or decrease in happiness. I would much rather feed money into surgery that makes people more intelligent or gives them a better mind instead of this kind of rediculousness. An idiot is a much bigger turn off than how a vagina looks, or the size/shape of a woman’s boobs or butt.

  • Simon

    congratulations for an great documentary.
    Shocking really but great.
    Thanks
    Simon

  • Me

    You know, I just have to say that I don’t think there’s any consolation in telling women they have beautiful vagina’s when they don’t. Yes I realize that aesthetics are extremely subjective, but why feed the lie that everyone is supposed to be beautiful in the first place?
    I think it would be entirely better to simply say, “It’s completely OK not to be beautiful”. Heck, it’s perfectly fine to be butt ugly. If it wasn’t for this ridiculous notion of beauty, these girls wouldn’t be trying to get pieces cut off in the first place.

  • John

    This doc has been on the “most popular” list for, well, for almost a year.
    It’s not all that popular, and it’s really not very good. The host/protagonist makes it more about herself than she should have. It’s OK to say “Well, this has been my experience…” but then let the subject share their experience, without interrupting them just when they’re about to tell us something interesting to tell us, again, about your own experience. In that regard, it fails. It’s less about discovering societal attitudes about the vagina as it is about one woman’s reaction and opinions with societal attitudes as a backdrop.

  • John

    It’s essentially the “What Lisa Rogers thinks” documentary.

  • mark

    ok, to all the women that want to know why men like shaved vaginas. in short, i shall only speak for myself. i do not like pubic hair in my mouth while doing oral sex. i actually hate it.
    as for me, i shave my pubic area for that same reason, so my girl doesnt get a pubic hair in her mouth.
    its actually being considerate & well clean…

    thats it in a nutshell. if there are perverts out there, they have their own reasons…

  • Dan-E

    The content was a good idea, the documentary narrator is f*cking terrible. Some of the most biased nonsensical hypocritical rubbish I have ever heard. This is to documentaries what george w bush is to US.S presidents. By the end I wanted to smash that womans head through a plate glass window and then slap her, she effectively torments her subjects even further with her relentless push that labiaplasty is completely unjustifiable under any circumstances even though some of these young women have probably come close to ending their lives because of their hangups over their appearance, and frankly there’s a couple of shmoos in here that do look pretty hideous.

  • http://www.zaubere.biz Kaye Danielian

    I got a bag like that one time. It had new boots, a hat, some some ready to eat meals and a gun. Iraq wasnt as cool as Disney Land but i didnt cry about it like this little wimp.

  • / db

    WTF is wrong with these girls.
    They should have brain cosmetic surgery, not vaginal !!!

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  • A Man

    I have to admit, i had no idea that women had self image problems with their vagina’s. It didn’t shock me considering how pervasive feminine image problems are, I just never stopped to think that it applied to their vagina’s as well.
    As a man I am familiar with the concept genital insecurity, I have been publicly humiliated by vindictive ex-girlfriends. I would also be lying if I said I have not looked at the option of enhancement. So having seen this i can understand the mind set of the women who consider labial reduction. What I cannot understand however is how people like the painter in this film think. While the statement is a touch antiquated, I have always maintained that a woman’s body is a temple and as
    such must be respected. Also i can faithfully say that i have never lost sexual interest in a woman based on the appearance of her vagina.
    The presenter of this film said it plainly, “If you don’t like how it looks you can quite happily f**k off, frankly”. Women please if you find a man is making harsh judgments about you based on how perky your breasts are, or how tucked you vagina is. DUMP THAT JERK!! In the long run if you keep subjecting yourself to that kind of psychological abuse, you will end up like these women, considering what looked like -very- painful surgery. And if its your so called friends teasing you about it, call them on, if they are your friends they would not treat you like that. Find people that love you and love yourself and everything else will fall into place.

  • Chris

    wow!I can’t stand the host, but what a serious issue… Not a single one of those vaginas looked bizarre to me in any way. Ive seen a few in my day, all shapes and sizes, and can say any have ever put me off. Though I think for oral sex I might be bothered a bit by huge lips, but considering the things women are willing to do for me, I wouldn’t hesitate and would still dive right in.

    Love yourself ladies, it’s just a hole that feels good with stuff inside, don’t slice off bits, just find a new boyfriend.

  • Jessica

    I feel bad after watching the documentary, I feel bad because these girls should be proud of themselves, I feel bad because my inner Labia does not hand out at all. I guess I have what people refer to as ‘perfect vagina’ but i feel bad after watching this because now I myself don’t feel normal. I feel like my inner labia SHOULD hang outside the outter-labia like these girls have.
    Just felt like sharing another thing this documentary did. It’s not a bad thing, just another angle for people to look at? Dunno.

  • http://jaclynbabybaby.tumblr.com Jaclyn

    This is ridiculous! I’m not insecure about my vag!

  • Chris

    A good doc with an obviously fantastic message. I felt, however, that it was a little hypocritical for the presenter to not show her bits. In ‘My Penis and I’ (another fantastic doc) I found it one of the most honest things I’d seen when the presenter placed himself in front of the camera. This self-image issue is something that needs to be addressed, and many of us understand this. Marketing and Advertising (of which the porn industry is a major part these days) play such a powerful role in most of our lives that it is completely debilitating, considering we have no idea what ‘normative’ is. We base our conceptions of a norm on advertised criteria, which is only designed to make us consume (including surgery) more.

    Unfortunately, for this comments section: The moment anything related to the body is displayed, for some reason, comments on sites like these become absolutely banal and infantile. Thanks, you who fit this criteria, for proving the internet is for ignorant fools (you can now include me in this) to spout their detritus without having to think (which many of you, I’m sure, don’t need to worry about). Especially those of you who are just reinforcing the patriarchy. Chaffing? Getting hair in your mouth during oral? How self-absorbed and absolutely deluded can you get? Women are not objects that exist to pleasure you. If you chaff, if you get a hair in your mouth, why don’t you look your partner in their eye and try and acknowledge that they are a human being with emotions, hopes, and desires, same as you (and, seeing as they are shaving themselves for you, probably more caring and empathetic than you as well). Moreover, do you think women want to tell you how big you are all the time? Come to terms with your own issues instead of making other people submit entirely to your violence. Fuck you.

  • Stephen

    Man…I will never understand why women put themselves through something like this. If the man your with doesn’t like something about your body…find another man. I would never ever ask a woman to do something like this and I couldn’t be with one that did. You are who you are.

  • http://www.ariesalterego.com Sandy

    I’m glad mine looks like a Asian child’s… I don’t know If I would do that surgery anyway..I think teens are insecure about everything.

  • pussywillow

    I’m quite shocked that no mention or correlation was made with the unnecessary but way too common practice of chopping off male bits -when they are babies and don’t even have any say in the matter! I think that is a way bigger and an infinitely more disturbing issue than grown people getting to make the decision for themselves, male or female.

    I wonder how many people saying “love the genitals you were born with” to females then go and chop off the foreskin of their male babies as if that is perfectly normal?

  • Ben

    A doco really looses a lot of appeal when the presenter is so one sided, a mind already made up and an easily aggravated sense of right and wrong. After talking about a woman who can’t reveal her non virginity status she says “I wonder if we’re in a better position” because of minor surgery. She also accuses a guy of being ‘sexist’ for being blunt and honest about his views on the visual appeal of a vagina, he was open and honest which is what she wanted and because he wasn’t subtle or articulate about it she attacked him, she set it up for a fall because he wasn’t educated. Her agenda really hurts the doco and destroys it’s credibility.

  • the555hit

    Lisa Rogers goes out to confirm that above all priveleges of kitsch femininity the failure of objectivity is queen. When somebody watches a documentary they’re hoping for a little science, unless they’re a conspiracy theorist or political frustrate looking just to see their views promoted.. ahem..

    If being human is about being conscious the proof of consciousness will always be desire and the ability to choose the means to that wish. It is dishonest to try to convince people against their taste that a part of their anatomy should be held as sacred and beyond aesthetic judgement. People are people and each person has his/her associative mental image bank. If someone says they don’t want half a kilo of parma ham hanging out of their crotch why don’t you just allow them their right to their own taste, as it were? If a man finds it uh.. unpalatable, allow him his opinion — he’s had to put up long enough with cock jokes. The prebiased finger-wagging dailymail propagandist choice of language throughout this ‘document’ was more turn off than any quantity of rancid pubic hair and liver could ever have achieved and brought total boredom to what should have been treated unbiasedly as a facinating subject. Lisa appears to be sporting a tattoo. How about a doc on that kind of rampant uglification?

  • the555hit

    Lisa Rogers goes out to confirm that above all priveleges of kitsch femininity the failure of objectivity is queen. When somebody watches a documentary they’re hoping for a little science, unless they’re a conspiracy theorist or political frustrate looking just to see their views promoted.. ahem..

    If being human is about being conscious the proof of consciousness will always be desire and the ability to choose the means to that wish. It is dishonest to try to convince people against their taste that a part of their anatomy should be held as sacred and beyond aesthetic judgement. People are people and each person has his/her associative mental image bank. If someone says they don’t want half a kilo of parma ham hanging out of

  • the555hit

    — hanging out of their crotch why don’t you just allow them their right to their own taste? If a man finds it uh.. unpalatable, can’t he be allowed his opinion ( and we’re talking about men, not a group of adolescent stoners sitting around in the park dreaming of the first time they’re ever going to akshully see one..) — he’s put up long enough with cock jokes hasn’t he? The finger-wagging dailymail propagandist choice of language throughout this ‘document’ was more turn off than any quantity of rancid pubic hair and wild beef could ever have achieved and brought total boredom to what should have been treated unbiasedly as a facinating subject. And all the tortured about ‘putting my fanny where my etc.. perleese what was that –so now the whole schlok doc is about all her lovely stupid white princessy guilt about getting the trim? Did she or didn’t she, we’re all so dying to know. When poor little outraged Lisa isn’t registering shock and and scandalised awe for the camera she appears to be sporting a tattoo, at least in her ‘sassy’ photo. How about a doc on that kind of rampant uglification?

  • Alwyn Dixon

    I don’t know how the surgeon who was injecting Rosie’s labia with anesthetic refrained from saying ‘you’ll only feel a small prick’… This is a brilliant video.. ‘love me love my vagina’ but my life time values have been altered now as I was told ‘stand them on their heads and they’re all sisters’ this is obviously not true…

  • Dan

    To all the ladies, I can speak for 90% of man when I say we love your junk no matter how it looks like.

  • Justin

    I think the main thing I learned from this film was how many different terms brits have for a vag. Crazy.
    Also, I think the only vag I saw that in any way needed some surgery was the one in the picture that the plastic surgeon who examined the narrator used as justification. That one was fucking extreme, but all the others look fine…

  • Tom

    Women are far too superficial! What the painter and decorator didn’t say is that he’d still shag the muff, even if he doesn’t want to lick it, just like women wouldn’t suck a cock they don’t find attractive.
    Rosie’s just an idiot who goes for the wrong men! She’s a right beauty anyway, and I would be more than happy to keep her muff to myself!!!

  • calum

    gutted the main presenter didn’t get her yoni out for us to see, would have been very influential.

  • http://Nil humbleforest

    Dear Global Friends,
    It seems that there is no morality in this website of a censorship board to protect the male or female modesty, status, celibacy and chastity by exposing them in this public media in meddling their respective private part, like here in circumcision.

    Professional people should be more respectable and morally practical not to expose their clients in any internet video medias and other medias as well.

    Please know the private and public way of life as the world has dropped her moral values because of one’s high self-esteem and haughtiness in intelligence.

  • http://Nil humbleforest

    Dear Global Friends,

    Let it be natura,l as one is being bestowed by Heaven to be as it is. There is no showing off to compete for the best and beautiful vagina in the world. If there is, then there will be an abuse and misuse of this private part.

    Furthermore, there is a religion which mixes with culture to force the males and females at the age of puberty to circumcision. In fact, all religions preach everyone to discard their respective immoralities like, greed, anger, hatred, dishonesty, injustice, adultery, infidelity, unfilial,
    selfishness, jealousy, craving strongly to power, fame and wealth and so on and so forth by building a common trust, respect, understanding with love to share and care together as a One Global Civilised Humankind.

  • http://Nil humbleforest

    Dear Global Friends,…

    For millions of years ago the females had no doctors or any surgery to perform and they had lived with their private parts as been born natural.

    GOD or Nature has given every person with their respective body and private parts with a cause which “intelligent” people with a limited mind cannot undersatand. Different people have a slightest difference as according to their affinity. Certain things professional people can only allowed to interfere and not all, but not to be taken as unprofessional business.

    Why do “intelligent” people always go against the law of nature, thus spoiling the land, sea air and now, the outer space through chemical contamination and pollution ? Even oxygen in the air is being reduced tremendously where plants give way to development, whilst all the foods and drinks are filled with chemical preservatives, thus giving rise to various health problems and calling for fast and good profits of surgery. This is where commercial greed rules over human moral values. What a great shame is no more to be felt and seen.

    The root cause is commercial greed where the professional people who are without thinking for the overall future consequences of the innocent people’s lives and also the effect to be fallen on them.

  • Samantha

    I have a blank vid on my side

  • Debra Barefoot

    When you are young and lets face it, inexperienced it is important to seek out opinions before making any life altering choices. Then you can weight your options and make a decision. This operation could possible leave hard scar tissue up and down your scar.
    Plus you may lose feeling in scar tissue. It could heal bumpy and irritate your insides for the rest of your life. Just walking may feel terribly uncomfortable forever. Remember now when people make fun of you it will be because you had it chopped off. Now the men , you so stupidly want to love you will be repulsed by the fact it is chopped off. Terrible what people perceive as beautiful in this Brazilion cut Culture. It looks like to me they want women to look like a baby and that is sick in it self. Get an education , work at something you love. Become your own women. Love God , Great things are sure to follow.
    This operation is like cutting your fingers off….Sorry , girls wake up!!!!!

  • Jay

    Why would women want to have their labia sliced off? It’s the most beautiful part of the female body…next to breasts. Such a shame.

  • http://documentaryheaven kev

    i didn’t see anything wrong with Rosie’s nookie she’s an exceptionally beautiful girl and her bit is just as beautiful. oh i’d love to put that in my mouth , i’d be happy to be with some one like her.
    on a serious note though i think her sister is an asshole and Rosie may have been mislead by what she thought a guy would think , i am sure if any of those guys had seen her bit they’d love it too. those guys were probably giving her a hard time cause they couldn’t find the way to approach her

  • KP

    Done with empathy, rather non-judgmentally.

  • Chris

    I think the film maker missed an extremely important source for information on the labia topic; internet pornography. Young and old alike today not only have great access to internet pornography, but use it as a source of “reliable” information about sex. Everything from appearances to positions to toys to orgasms to BDSM and everything in between. What they don’t realize is that it’s no different than television or movies. It’s for entertainment and revenue generating purposes only. IT’S NOT REAL! any more than the airbrushed, anorexic models in magazines are real. In the world of internet pornography the actresses labia are mostly referred to in only two ways and two subsets. Like your navel, they are referred to as innies and outies. The innies are subordinately referred to as nubile, meaning childlike with no inner labia showing at all, only the outer lips and a tight slit and as a normal innie with minor appearance of small inner lips. Outies are referred to in much the same way, as normal outies with a bit more inner lips showing and as “meaty” pussies. I was surprised at the film makers reaction to her painter’s opinion. How is what he said any different than a man liking redheads or brunettes or blondes or being an ass man or a legs man? It’s just a type that he personally finds attractive and that’s the point that she missed there, I think. There’s a happy couple out there for every type and shape, no matter what, and it’s finding him/her without surgery that presents the challenge. Maybe there should be dating sites which focus on body features for those superficial among us? Getting back to the internet porn thing. My point was that there are sites devoted to every type. There are strictly nubiles sites, which in my personal opinion are for men whose preference more than borders on being pedophiles. There are pretty pussy sites and pink pussy sites which mostly feature normal innies and normal outies. And, there are meaty pussy sites which cater to men who find those attractive. There are also hairy pussy sites and bald pussy sites. Such sites would not be successful, nor even be in business if there weren’t sufficient viewers to make them profitable, which brings me full circle to the fact that there’s a type for everyone and to which anyone might be attracted. For my part, I am upset with Rosie for having her labia trimmed, because she didn’t even have what the porn industry refers to as a meaty pussy. Hers was a normal outie and would have happily been featured on one of the pink pussy or pretty pussy sites. As for me personally, I would not necessarily reject a women because of the shape of her labia/vulva area, but nubiles do tend to creep me out since I do not have any pedophile tendencies and, having some significant experience, my personal preference is for meaty pussies because I find that the extra flesh provides for much more penile stimulation during intercourse, which is never a bad thing. So you see, it’s neither about teasing, nor insecurity, nor genital bigotry. It’s really about finding your special partner who is attracted to you as you are or as you like yourself to be. It’s also about how attraction affects erectile dysfunction. My preferences have a fairly wide range, but they’re not universal. If I were to begin a physical relationship with a new lover and found that she was a nubile type or had all of her hair and was not trimmed down there, I would likely not be able to achieve an erection. And, given my first choice, I’d prefer a nearly, but not totally bald, meaty pussy.

  • Chris

    As for the hymen restoration surgery, I don’t see the controversy there. The women are neither having anything cut off nor added on. they are simply having a thing closed that was once closed by nature and then opened and will again be closed and opened. It’s a normal cycle and there’s no rule about its happening only once in a lifetime, as far as I have heard. How is that any different than having your second ice cream sundae or making love to your second boyfriend. Many experiences in life occur for a second time, why not that. I suspect that there are so many women out there who had an unpleasant “first time” experience, because of the inexperience of their teen boyfriends, or because they were forced or coerced, that they think, “Ugh, why would I want to go thru that again”? Now run that experience through your mind over again but replace the boy with the best lover you ever had and with the 20-20 hindsight of experience. I’d think it would be quite pleasurable and intimate for both of you.

  • Ed

    To all women, honestly. For us it does not matter how it looks like but how it makes you feel. The appearance is irrelevant. We would never turn off a vagina for the way it looks. Painters… come one, for some reason they are doing that no brain job. You look just perfect as you always do!!

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  • potato

    The comment up there making the assertion that women are “too superficial” is fantastically simplistic, blatantly ignorant of the fact that we live in a superficial, market driven society where women are often treated poorly until they sheepishly conform to the current demands of what theier bodies should look like. A cute young girl getting grilled about the shape of her inner labia is an example of this. And the iplications? Who wouldnt be somewhat traumatized by getting grilled about her inner labia in public? Women and men to a lesser extent are forever expected to change and conform to the dumbest ideals when it comes to beauty. They didn’t come up with these insecurities by themelves one day, because they were bored and wanted a complex.

  • Corkscrew

    I really like how the presenter is telling girls that their natural look is beautiful and should not be changed, while her face is caked in make up and she has extremely groomed eyebrows. It’s a little hypocritical if you ask me, I think Louis Theroux’s style of reporting is much more honest and unbiased.

  • A guy without vagina

    “It just doesn’t matter what the vagina looks like…”

    That is so true. It is a vagina for god damn sake!!.. I would be lucky to get a vagina once a week!.. Guys don’t care how your vagina looks like… they just want to enter it!

    Btw, how come we didn’t get to see your vagina?

  • bryan

    I’d like to get in Lisa’s vagina

  • denbenenki

    Yeah, I watched this.
    21:25 Brilliant, just a brilliant idea.
    21:36 YIKES! WTF!?
    Whew!…well, time to get back to dirty political schemes exposed.

  • rayvn03

    People keep asking why this is happening. Well, the porn industry decided that hairless pussies that look like a three year old’s are the only ‘pretty’ pussy, and some men and a lot of women have bought into this, unfortunately.

  • HORNY MAN

    I LOVE TO LICK THAT PART THIS LADIES DON’T WANT!

  • Steph

    Fantastic take on different cultures perception of whats important. I really enjoyed that she stated getting to know and respect her own body made her feel like a woman.

  • John

    This documentary would be much better if Lisa Rogers didn’t make it so much about herself. Often she’s speaking to someone saying something interesting, and she interrupts them to talk about herself. Instead of an all-encompassing examination of how women feel about their vaginas it dwindles into how Lisa feels validated by what others say. Unfortunate.

  • Gena Talia

    “F” all of them. Nearly every new born male has a circumcision without any regard for the health, safety or necessity of this ridiculous brutal procedure.

    Turn about is fair play. A lot of women have grotesque vaginas. Good to know they are fixing that.

    • Swooning Monkey

      I know your comment is old, but there are people out there who cares about male circumcision, also females – and then you have me, my identity is irrelevant lol

      http://whoneedssexed.tumblr.com/archive Here is one example of a blog that is foreskin positive.

  • Reverbe

    As a man, I find this phenomenon absolutely horrifying. Please, don’t mutilate yourselves for the propaganda of superficiality. If a guy rejects you because of what your vagina looks like, he’s nothing more than a pathetic idiot.

  • Kristina

    A big problem is that young boys see women in porn videos or magazines and think that’s how real women look like down there, and then they have sex and see a real vulva and think there is something wrong with the girl. Its not only girls comparing themselves to unrealistic sex idols, but also guys, who may comment or even dump a girl because she has a different lady part.

  • Daniel

    Hi there, my GF has slightly above average sized labia minor and I love it so much! :)

  • aman

    never met a vagina i didn’t like…. an that’s from a real man….

  • Lucy

    It’s so sad watching that young girl have her labia minora cut off.  With a little more sexual experience she likely would have come to realize that that part of her anatomy is one of the MOST sensitive aside from the clitoris.  Now she will miss out on those sensations :(

  • Suzanne

    As a feminist, one thing that bothers me about feminist culture is when culturally ideal female body types are denigrated as not being “real”. Women are constantly going on about “real women” – women who have curves, are a bit heavier, hippier and not super-model-like.  This alienates everyday women who DO look like models because they feel as if they are not real women.  Looking at women in porno magazines and saying their vaginas are “not real” makes women who’s vaginas DO naturally look like that feel as if something is wrong with their bodies, too.

  • Bluerhyn

    I love very large lips. Rose’s were nothing, and why she had a complex is crazy. Very sad that in a perfect word all humans would look a like.. I believe women create thier insecurities by giving women magazineany thought.

  • Guest

    this conservative bitch has no idea what shes talking about. the entire ‘documentary’ was blatantly bias. its easy for her to critisise, a doctor told her she already has a ‘perfect’ vagina.

    i was disgusted watching this her argue entirely off the assumption that all the women who do this are pressured by media, men, or have low self esteem. barely a thought given to choice, personal comfort, pain, or hygiene.

    the instant that surgeon showed her the photo of labia of the teenage girl pre-op, she should have shut the fuck up and gone home.
    women dont need another person on a media platform telling them what they should and shouldnt do with their bodies. fuck her, fuck this ‘documentary’

  • Roy

    I was on a documentary web site and saw the title, ‘The Perfect Vagina.’ I immediately thought, “Is there such a thing?” I didn’t think there was and I had heard that some women didn’t like their vagina, so I decided to check it out.
    Turns out I was right, and I think women who are unsure, might want to watch this documentary. I really feel empathy for women who don’t feel good about themselves for any reason. This documentary was a bit graphic in places, but well worth the time.

  • HeadAngel

    Ya know, I’ll start off with I’m a 17 year old male who’s never had sex but one thing I know is that my favorite erotica author, Sarahh, always makes sure to mention that her flaming red hair matches perfectly in both areas of her body. It’s pretty cute and sexy if you ask me.

  • http://twitter.com/warcroft warcroft

    Lisa Rogers (the host) has incredible eyes! Stunning!

  • http://twitter.com/warcroft warcroft

     And she reminds me of Shepherd (FemShep) from Mass Effect.

  • rowan

    it’s really itchy and scratchy when it grow back for every one concerned .Women are women and are beautiful as they are,there is little need for gilding the lilly.

  • Bonnie

    Cried after watching this because after all that, I still hate my vagina. Can’t wait to get surgery, which is such a grim thought. 

  • Claytonbam

    im a guy i like vaginas any way and im sure alot of guys agree as long as its clean its all good :)

  • Moa

    I think it is perfectly suitable for minors, well, insecure girls of a certain age I mean. Good, brave stuff.

  • A human been

    WOW.!!!!!!! I am a man and when I saw that poor girl having that surgery my hole entire body started to shiver, why the hell you have to that for.???? I cannot see more about this shit (min 12:47) I had had enough.
    Just for the fact of been a human been you are beautiful.!!!! Don´t ever let others make you think other way.

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  • Sally2012

    Well I cant imagine that people do actually dont like their vaginas. Every human being likes different things, from food to clothing to environments and people. We dont like everything the same so that’s why God created us different with different bodies and thoughts. What is being shown in the media is not always the case. 
    As a man, I’m telling you we like different tastes and shapes of women. Dont be worried about your vaginas. As long as is healthy everything is just fine.

  • Hypocrisy Now

    So the women of this documentary are shallow, self-absorbed, and too insecure, but the man in “My Penis and I” is called brave by many of males commenting on the video. Funny how double standards work. Look at the hundreds of commercials aimed at women telling them that their vaginas stink, and that they need this, that, or the other to make them ‘smell fresh’. How can you not understand why women would consider this surgery when they are brainwashed everyday, that there’s something wrong with their bodies?

    I’m sure some of you commenting on this video wouldn’t like it if people made nasty comments and dudes with small wangs.   

  • guest

    I’m a guy and I hate this. Girls, please don’t do this to yourselves, stop believing what you see on TV and all the crap you read please. 

    I love girls, especially those with lovely personalities. I can’t stand the ones who do this to themselves, because it clearly shows they don’t love who they are and appreciate their own appearances.

    Ladies, ignore the media, love your body and most importantly, love yourselves. 

    • agal

      It is easy to say this but I would bet money that you are guilty of watching porn with perfect looking women. Or looking at Playboys or whatever. Women think they have to be like these girls in the porn industry because men seem to like it so much. No one wants to feel like they are being compared to surgically perfect looking women.

  • wtev

    This “documentary” is f**king drivel…  Some women are soo pathetic.  This girl isn’t happy with the changes that have happened to her own vag.  So to try and accept it, she decides ‘the only way has to be, to like it the way it is’.  Whatever!  If some women want to change the way their twats look to make them feel better then who gives a f**k.  Where does she get off deciding that these girls will regret it later in life (no matter what their reasons are for changing).  It’s funny how she doesn’t seem to notice how stupid it is to get all emotional about about her own vag, looking at it with a bunch of other pathetic women needing ‘reassurance’ that ‘it’s okay’… lol.  People have a right to change themselves in order to be happier/ more confident.  This is just another bored, illogical women’s ‘quest’ to make herself feel empowered, pretending to make a difference.  Maybe do a little more research before starting your next ‘crusade’.  That way you might have some kind of intelligent argument to back up your opinion.

    • Lynn

      1) you must be a man
      2) you must be an idiot… you obviously didn’t get the point at all.
      3) I think YOU need a more ‘intelligent’ argument to back-up you opinion.

      Just to help you get the point… it is very painful for most women to go through life thinking they are not ‘good enough’ physically in many different ways. Because of the porn industry, this is now another thing that women have been made to feel insecure about. The porn industry has caused similar insecurities for men, however, I think men have far more opportunity to see what other guys are really like because it’s ‘out there’ to see. Women don’t have that opportunity… so they just think they are not as good as others. Hence, wanting to mutilate themselves to be good enough.

      Personally, I loved this documentary and I can tell you that I feel different about myself and more accepting after having watched it. I thought it was brilliant and brave of her to take this on. So if you think it’s drivel – Don’t watch it!!

      • Yeah, I said it.

        wtf you mean by “out there to see”. You think we wave our dicks around? oh whatever, just another woman trying to argue…

      • Wrolf

        it is drivel, though.

      • Holly

        I agree. You make excellent points, besides I think the only reason some males (not going to say men) have watched this doc was because it has “vagina” in the title.

        • dog

          hhahahahahahaha omg ur so smar, i only clicked on this coz it said vagina and it is the dumbest documentary with some whore and a camera running around england

      • Ryan A Man

        1) you must be a lesbian, or
        2) you must be retarded, or
        3) you must be a frigid misandrist

        that is the only way one can rationalise your idiotic comment.

  • Charlotte

    I have seen other documentaries that show how women, years after their surgeries, still experience pain even just while sitting or walking. Moreover, the surgery has affected their sexual pleasure in a negative way. This outcome is apparently the norm. I wish the documentary had explored that aspect (long-term post-surgical outcomes of many women rather than just of one woman). Women need to know the true cost of this procedure on their lives. However, I like how the butcher doctors all looked and acted like pervs. The poor deluded girls couldn’t see it, but the objective camera sure picked it up.

  • Jasonb

    Two points to make:
    – There are definitely real women who have pretty vaginas (like the ones in the magazine ads she said didn’t exist).
    – As far as shaving goes, from my experience with women, the ones who were shaved smelled and tasted much cleaner, no exceptions (it has nothing to do with a pre-pubescent look, at least for me). 

  • Lilyp

    I agree that women and girls should not be having these procedures.  However, I do not think it is fair to say that women with tucked in vaginas and plump outer lips are not real women. That is how mine is naturally.

  • MillbillyBoy

    43 year old male here.  Rosie had a beautiful vagina.  It makes me sad to think that she altered it.  Agreed, some men may not like a vagina with a lot of extra skin but some men do.  Just like some men will find a woman attractive and others won’t.  What a shame that it is gone!

  • http://twitter.com/Viedoklis_lv Viedoklis

    In order to want to change something – anything, either it’s your hair, your clothes, your job, your car, etc. – there must be at least something to compare with that is not yours and something that will influence you by saying what is better – yours or that others.
    Than it’s only upon to every individual how far it will go for this influence, someone will only change it’s shoes, someone will change it’s style, someone will change it’s nose or fanny.
    Will it make person happier? Well I think not – person can feel more secure because now this person belongs to some people that can relate to – some group of people that has the same hair, style, shoes, car, fanny, etc. and these people can communicate easier to those people who admire these values. But when ever influence will change to other so called “values” – so goes the security and that same person again will make changes to be just like those others.
    So its up to you – either to be happy with your self now or to follow others who are not satisfied with them self’s and attract those people who follow these false values.

  • Chris Gledhill

    sexist???? are you kidding? This film is sexist. women judge men for penis size much more harshly and there is a HUGE accepted stereotype around it… men RARELY are so judgmental.. that is a statistical fact. Other than that its all a product of insecurity and marketed images. This is true for both men and women. I’m surprised this film didn’t talk about any of the finer details of that. Men can’t use the sexist argument and never would because….. they’re men and they are not able to be victims. A stigma caused by what women believe they want in them.. road goes both ways unfortunately. Yes women are much more insecure and are exposed to more self image based advertising because they are psychologically more susceptible to it (as appearance is their perceived top survival/reproductive asset) while men are more prone to image advertisement based on possessions and wealth because that is their perceived survival/reproductive asset.

    Everyone can be a victim to appeals to our natural biopsychosocial traits. Look up the princess complex (worst in the U.S.)… that’s a bad one. Or male aggressive dominance (also worst in the U.S.) also a bad one.

    Watch the Dove documentary on beauty complex if you want solid information. or the one with the statue of liberty on the cover.. maybe they’re the same. this was interesting regardless because I didn’t realize it was real. girls I know think theirs is gods gift regardless of how it looks.

  • Chris Gledhill

    you’d just never hear about a guy who says.. i have a small dick.. and women should just accept me for it because i’m happy with it. He’ll die believing there is something wrong with him if you doesn’t learn how to use it.. and well. Men may talk big game when it comes to evaluating women but in the moment they just aren’t really THAT picky (except maybe the one guy that fits the prototype).. on the other hand a woman will hold out for prince charming to the grave, regardless of her actually qualities (its almost all or nothing) The double standard of men being ‘players’ and women being ‘tramps’ is based on the reality that nearly all average looking women could go out and sleep with a thousand guys in a year, if they wanted to :/ that is not an accomplishment or a display of power, its an indulgence. If a man could do that he would be praised and envied for having so much power to do what other men couldn’t. Power is more often worshiped and indulgence in easy pleasures is looked down on. Not saying its right..just saying it is. its actually very sad

  • Seymour Butts

    wow

  • randy

    Naughty naughty

    • Bugs Bunny

      How could you?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000221714132 Kathy Martin-Tyrrell

    since when does ‘logic’, ‘argument’, ‘opinion’ or ‘intelligence’ have anything to do with self mutilation. I personally could not care less what you dumb animals do to yourselves, the fact that you willingly continue to have children in a concentration camp tells me all I need to know about women in general. Dumb. Hey there is this ugly grey stuff in your head too. You never use it, it’s ugly and slimy. You should get it all cut out;)

  • Lee

    This was excellently done! Every female should see this and any man that cares about them.I hope that this will show women that we are all different but beautiful just the same.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_N3XOIR4QNKCNHLFASV5NBOTKO4 stickrshok

    proof that women are screwed in the head

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_N3XOIR4QNKCNHLFASV5NBOTKO4 stickrshok

    fake tits, fake face, fake vag…let’s just make robots that we can fuck and that don’t talk…far superior..

  • Clau Carmona

    As a woman, I can say that you are used to hear critics about your image, even when you’re feeeling confident about yourself, the constant criticism push you to question your own beliefs.

    I totally understand Mrs. Rogers, sometimes if there’s nothing you can do to change a “disturbing” image, you need to accept it, if you’re not willing to go for a cosmetic surgery; her fears and insecurities are natural of mankind, we wish youth was forever.

    Certainly a documental that invites you to reflexion, I even remember a girl with this slogan on her shirt: “I love my vulva”. Think about it and share!!!

  • jade285

    The documentary is slightly bias towards being comfortable of who you are and which lead to the conclusion that you should go through that cosmetic change (it could be the other way around but, depends on how you look at it). In my opinion, your surrounding is actually affecting your decision how you think you should look like or be like. The surrounding which includes 1) people; your friends, your family, your colleagues, the people you try to prove yourself to, the people that you want to impress and so on. 2) the physical world for e.g. trends of that moment in time; pop culture, gothic, angelic, hipsters or whatever (i honestly don’t keep up with trends these days). Everyone will be influence by these factors and there are no exceptions. Seriously, no one is exclude from these factors. The only thing different about each one of us is, how much does these factors influences and affects us. In other words, to what degree are we affected by our surrounding? This is a question that you should really ask yourself.

    But thats not the point that i want to make. I am not here to say that i’m against labiaplasty (or any sort of cosmetic procedures/surgeries) nor am i supporting the act. I just want people to understand that its your actions that determines who you are and what your life would eventually be.

    So when you do come to that juncture in life to make a certain decision, for instance having this procedure to make you more confident of yourself (or for whatever rational reasons it may be), you need to understand that you have to make a choice and that choice will come with effects and consequences. So what ever the outcome of that decision you’ve made, you have to accept it and live with it. Its part of who you are now. That’s it. That’s my opinion. cheers

    • jade285

      sorry it.. typo err. it should say, “…that you shouldn’t go thru cosmetic change…”. noob here. cheers

  • chaz54

    Very interesting film. I’m a 54 year old man and only once in all my life did I ever hear another man say that he preferred small inner labia. The overwhelming number of men that I have discussed this with much prefer even larger inner labia. A normal inner labia looks more interesting and is perfect for gentle nibbling etc. I also assume that there are nerve endings in play here and the removal of part of the labia would decrease stimulation for the woman. I just don’t understand why a woman would intentionally do this

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  • 22354

    this was really interesting to watch. i was born without labia minora and as a result have a very neat looking vagina. i am a lesbian and it wasnt until about 3 years after being sexually active that i or anyone else noticed i was completely missing a bit. so for a good long time i couldnt understand what about there vaginas could make women unhappy with them, but i have been with a good few women who have really hated them and this has been a real eye opener into understanding the insecurites women can have

  • nobonesl

    American Values=You Suck, so spend money to fix yourself.

  • dr pierre

    rule of thumb means that it should not dangle longer than thumb

  • Truthbetold 15

    I’m seeing a lot of comments on here with women saying this is not different to a man complaining about his penis but when men meet up in private we dont criticise nor tease women about how tight or loose their vaginas are men are a lot more sensitive to womens insecurities because we are taught that women are fragile and we need to be careful how we treat them, but on the other hand you have alot women who openly and secretly tease men about their penises, making men feel inadequate and under par, I believe if men teased women openly about vaginas about how it can smell and how loose it is women would think twice about how they tease men about their penises. All in all its about respect and being content with what you have been given but when you have people and sometimes partners making you feel less desirable because your body part then how can we truly be happy with ourselves. You have women bragging to be size queens, if men called themselves TIGHT Kings I wonder what would happen

  • Aja

    THANK YOU! After a traumatic childbirth with my daughter, and degrading comments from my ex about my vagina, I seriously considered vaginal surgery for aesthetic reasons virtually identical to every woman interviewed in this documentary. I searched everywhere to try and find out what a “normal” vagina looked like after childbirth in mainstream media and conventional resources to no avail. Upon encountering this moving, I am finally, almost 10 years later, able to feel secure about my “bits” and the changes that they’ve undergone in the last 15 years of my life, WITHOUT surgery. This movie is a god-send.

  • LoverNotAFighter

    As a guy, I don’t think it matters one bit what a woman’s vagina looks like. All of them are different, and for me the uniqueness is attractive. As for hair…who cares. You’ll spend 95% or more of your married (or unmarried) life doing something other than sex. It’s just not that important.

  • Amandine

    I live in France and I wonder if this is not an Anglo-Saxon thing. We almost all wax (and even I have had this discussion with my collegues at work) but otherwise there seems to be very little plastic surgery within our culture. I think that it might have to do with the thing that French women love our bodies as they are… Fatter, slimmer, or in between… Perhaps we should just learn to love what we have and then there is the thing that men really do not care as much as we think…

  • Florence

    Really really good documentary

  • anonymous

    this is retarded. I love my gf’s vagina hairy just like i love any other vagina. to the guys who like it shaved chase bald vaginas, to the guys who like it hairy, chase the hairy ones. you will find someone who likes you for who you are, no point in staying with sumone and compromising, I will never compromise anything about myself for anyone out there. there’s billions in the world u know.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Matt-Sharper/100000807088310 Matt Sharper

    i feel so sad for her that she had to get a bit of her fanny chopped off

  • Jessica

    There are a couple of things that bother me about this documentary. First, the grooming of pubic hair isn’t something that has just started to come into fashion. Women have been doing their best to get rid of body hair for centuries – there is evidence of the ancient Egyptians doing so. Second, why is this woman leading the documentary and yet is too…ashamed? shy? prude? to show her own “bits” on camera. It’s not like the viewers would look at her any differently than the other women, and if she truly is about women all loving themselves then why not set an example? It’s quite all right for her movie to show even the picture of a 16 year old girl’s vagina, but not her own. Kind of tarnishes her credibility in my eyes.

    • harry

      was thinking the samething!

  • 50+women growled

    Ha ha ladies we don’t really care how it looks, Just how it smells and tastes, Bottom line keep it fresh and we will love you long time 😉 p.s any guy that says your fo fo looks bad is a F@#king gay boy and likes penis in and around his mouth!!!!
    Love to all ladies Nicky Slick

  • the dixman

    All men are males but not all males are men and real men love women and we think like this: the vagina is the ugliest most beautiful thing I’ve ever seen and the worse of it I’ve ever had was wonderful, if God made anything better than coodie snap He must have kept it for Himself, there are only 2 type of women, those with good old p***y and those with old good p***y. It even gets deeper than that, a woman with an unselfish lover to him she is a feminine delicacy and that is my wife for if she had lent herself to the amenities that made her visible to the public chances are some rich guy would have gotten her and not me. When she was my gf one day at work she had put her panties in my lunch bag, when I asked why she did that she said, I know you’ve been stealing my panties and I know you aren’t wearing them so you must be sniffing them and I did it because the way that you have been f**k**g me I don’t want you thinking of no other woman but me.” Thats when I knew she’d be my wife. She has small boobs and in no way would let her change that, she asked me if I preferred if she shaved her bush, I said no that hair don’t stop me from getting to it. When she gains a little weight I don’t complain cause it goes to the right place that makes her a menace to men in motion when she is a pedestrian. After our 3rd baby she ask was her behind getting out of shape and I told the truth when I said, “Honey if I didn’t believe in God I’d be on my knees worshiping your behind.” Watching a court show about this guy in a multiple paternity law suit she said that I’m the only man that can beat the case, “All you’d have to do is tell the judge your honor I pled not guilty by reason of insanity cause I’m just crazy about the stuff”. Girls you don’t need to change a thing but maybe our man and you should realize the value of what you have. It didn’t take my wife long to figure out this riddle, “What has a sweet smell of innocence mixed with a touch of naughtiness and delightful excitement?” She answers with joy and says, “Me!”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mike.kleinschmidt.7 Mike Kleinschmidt

    Why the obsession. Again the media starts some trend like waxing when it is not that important. Trim it and stay SSD clean; excercise and stay fit. And for the women that insist their sisters need this all I can say is “Why don’t you pick up a social cause like global warming to channel all that energy”.?

  • Jeddy Khan

    I love the ones which look like a butterfly

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=864930262 Flavia Marlene Almonte

    I’m really glad I watched this! Thank you

  • Blurred91

    I came across this documentary a few years back when I was looking into getting labia minora surgery. It’s impact was solid enough to deter me from going through with the procedure. Despite my decision to hold off on surgery, to this day I have insecurities about the way I look.

    My issues with the way I look partly stemmed from a particular conversation I remember silently being a part of in high school. A bunch of guys I was friends with were talking about a girl that had “huge pussy lips”. Throughout the conversation they totally bashed this girl, calling her “loose”, “easy”, “disgusting”, etc. Hearing that as a fifteen year old can be, and was, absolutely terrifying. Especially since I had my own reservations about the way I looked prior to the conversation.

    Over time I was able to realize that they were just high school guys trying to impress one another. Even though I am fully aware now that all guys are not disgusted by the thought of having sex with me, that conversation (as well as a few other instances) definitely shaped my views about how I should and should not look. Although I try not to let the fact that I am uncomfortable getting physical with men show, it is clearly obvious, as I am a now a twenty-two year old woman and have yet to actually have sex.

    My point here, albeit extremely long-winded, is directed towards the men in: You never know who will take your words to heart. Having preferences in a partner is one thing but completely ripping apart a girl, especially in the presence of other females, does nothing but harm. I have always tried to instill this in my younger brother (who is now in high school) that girls are extremely sensitive at that age and incredibly impressionable; don’t ever say something to a girl that you would want to rip another guy’s head off for saying to your sister.

    • PickingYourPocket

      If i were a troll, i could have used this quote for somethng good…

      “Even though I am fully aware now that all guys are not disgusted by the thought of having sex with me…”

  • Liddy

    I am really glad I watched this. Even though one of my large problems is shaving rash, I do feel better about my lips. This whole time I have been taking porn as what other women’s vagina’s looked like and thought that mine were huge and have considered surgery. however now that I have seen this, I have realised that my labia minora are actually on the smaller side as I measured them and they are only about 3 cm, which is only a cm over the ”smallest”. I feel immensely better. My only problem now is the hair. Just tonight I gave myself a Brazilian shave which I feel I may regret later as all shaving attempts has left me with itchiness later. And my self-consciousness of this is all because I have met a guy and have suddenly become hugely aware of down there when before hand I really didn’t care. I obviously am not doing it for myself. But it is so embarrassing when my female housemates in my shared house shave with no problems what so ever. I am 18, a virgin, relatively attractive and I just am scared of a boy looking at my bits and just being like: “well that’s disappointing”

  • ShallowDick

    Thumbnail brought me here… I am a guy.

    • ShallowDick

      This milf hostess is such a goddamn tease…! I skipped to all the parts where she is spreading, and not even a single glance of her twat. Worst documentary ever. I am still a guy.

  • Sophie Galegasgvili

    we cut our hair, go shopping for nice cloth, make up, try to keep our body in a good shape. we do it for ourselves. i do it for myself anyways. but when it comes to shaving all of a sudden all this sexist/ feminist talks pop up.

    i like mine shaved and it has nothing to do with men really. i just feel better this way, fresh i guess (: yeah all of it shaved like a little girl. love it! my bf appreciates it as well. although my best friend doesn’t shave and she is One Gorgeous Woman i have to tell you! don’t think any of her partners mind that.

    we spend here so much time talking about what others think about us. what men like? what should they like or not? should we do anything to please them or they need to except us as we are.

    just do what YOU like, what makes YOU feel comfortable. YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL!!!! BE YOURSELF!!! DO WHAT YOU LOVE! LET OTHERS LOVE YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE!!!

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  • Alex

    Everyone just needs to stop playing games with each other and with themselves. Honestly, what possible qualitative value can be placed on the physical shape and appearance of genitalia? How is that even possible? You may have personal tastes and preferences, but that does not equate “good, better, best” or “bad, worse, worst”. That being said, it is so true that our own “personal” tastes are highly manipulated by media, in a plethora of forms. We need to be vigilant when it comes to viewing advertisement, both overt and subliminal.

    I am a tall man; most others are shorter than me. What is the qualitative value of my above average height? Nothing! It’s just a fact about who I am, that happens to be different by a few inches from most other men. SO WHAT?? Is a shorter man less of a man? No. Is he inherently less desirable because he’s not as tall as I? Or am I less attractive for being so tall? Absolutely not.

    The same principals apply to penis size. “Bigger is better” is a myth, and that’s not just a lie men with smaller penises tell themselves to feel better. Media (particularly pornography which is now more regularly viewed and consumed than the News) spouts the myth that a big penis is more desirable because it always leads to greater pleasure for the woman, and that there is somehow a firmer establishment of one’s masculinity the larger one’s penis is. This is ludicrous. One thing we must certainly learn from this documentary is that vaginas come in all sort of shapes and sizes; and that applies to the inside of a vagina as well as the outside. The internal anatomy of female genitalia is different from person to person as well. So, a man with a larger than average penis might actually cause his partner more pain than pleasure, and also (funnily enough) might be so big that he can not fit fully inside of her vagina, diminishing his own sexual pleasure (potentially).

    There are just too many variables in physical anatomy to say that there is a “perfect” ANYTHING. One of the beautiful things about sexual relationships (or at least, it ought to be so beautiful in every case, though it isn’t) is that you and your partner grown in intimacy out of respect and love for one another, and so you accept each other for who you are. Then you are able to explore each others bodies, and get to learn how to synergize in order to pleasure one another, and express love to each other through sexual pleasure. Claiming that there is one “ideal” or “perfect” type of genitalia is like saying there must only be one type of jigsaw puzzle, and if there is a different jigsaw puzzle which has bigger or smaller pieces than the “ideal” or “perfect” jig saw puzzle, they ought to be either cut down in order to fit into that ideal puzzle, or undergo some other ridiculous process to grow the pieces in order to fit. What the tragic thing would be is that the entire point would be missed which is this: different jigsaw puzzles show different pictures; they reveal different things, and show different scenes. You can not command all jig-saw puzzles render the exact same picture. Likewise, you can not (in sound mind) demand that all vaginas, or all penises look a certain way. Let those with large labia paint beautiful pictures with whomever they chose to; let those with small penises reveal marvelous scenes with those whom they chose.

    To enforce this false idealism would be like commanding the world to only read one book and take pleasure in one book, and shame people who don’t like that book, or that genre of book, until they develop psychological disorders and ultimate have to change who they are in order to fit this ridiculously contrived standard.

    Love one another. Period.

  • Bone

    When I was a younger man all there was to eat was Hairy Pussy.
    Then they got trimmed and the eating of the pussy was better.
    Years later you dined on cleanly shaved pussy and it was good, very very good.
    Once I ate a hairy pussy but that was then and this is now.
    I have tasted the bald fruit and choose not to dine on the hairy melon again.

    • Bone

      Nah, who am I kidding.
      I love eating any kind of pussy.
      I would appreciate if it gets a trim every now and then.

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  • Nasir Nawaz

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  • Robert

    I have to admit that I was a little bit disappointed by Lisa Roger’s unwillingness to show her own vagina in this film. Every step of the process she was willing to immerse herself in each situation she was studying (surgical consultation, art casting, etc.) which I thought showed her solidarity with other women. While I think she had a good, personal approach to this issue I found it somewhat hypocritical that while she encouraged women to love and admire their own vaginas, she was unwilling to show her own. I understand the desire of some people to avoid appearing nude on-camera but I think, given the subject matter and context of the film, her unwillingness to do so took away from that sense of encouragement that she was trying to put out.

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  • Bobby

    How hypocritical of her to not show her own vulva.

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