After having watched Penis Size Insecurity By Men, it’s now time to move on to lesson two and have a look at womens insecurities: The Perfect Vagina.
Fronted by Lisa Rogers, this documentary focuses on the rise in vaginal cosmetic surgery, specifically labiaplasty. For the uninitiated, labiaplasty involves cutting off the inner labia so that they don’t ‘hang’ below the outer labia. Ouch! The labiaplasty business has skyrocketed over the past few years, and Lisa’s mission was to find out why so many women hate the appearance of their vulvas to the point that they’d willingly have pieces of them surgically removed.
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November 10, 2011 at 12:11 am | Anya McDonald
I HAVE READ THE COMMENTS FROM THE MEN WHO WANT US WOMEN TO SHAVE DOWN THERE, NOW I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO SHAVE THEIR PENIS AREA AS WELL AS THEIR BALL AREA AND SEE HOW WELL THEY LIKE IT AND HOW THEY HANDLE THE REGROWTH OF THE HAIR WITH ALL THE ITCHING THAT GOES ON.
Yes, I know the caps were on, that’s because I am pissed, sick and tired of men trying to tell women what they should do, act, feel and what we need and want. My question is this who died and left them in charge?
November 10, 2011 at 11:26 pm | Sarah
I am a Canadian woman and I love my vagina just the way it is. This shit is messed up.
November 11, 2011 at 3:29 pm | Jade
What annoyed me is the host of the program didn’t show hers or even her mold and actually seemed a bit embarrassed by it.
November 11, 2011 at 5:23 pm | Geordie
I’ve seen a few lady bits in my time, and they’re all lovely! This ‘cosmetic’ surgery is daft.
November 13, 2011 at 5:01 am | Short
no guy has ever wanted to touch me, hair or smooth… I have shaved since I was a teenager (about 14 years) and even at 27 now it’s routine. I have what’s called roast beef and after watching this I am semi-glad that I do
November 15, 2011 at 1:19 am | Amissmetal
Lisa Rogers – female Richard Hammond.
November 17, 2011 at 1:27 am | Brian
Okay, girls can be free to do what they want with their body. As a guy, a girl is a girl to me. I’m interested more in who see is and what she’s like. Sure I like her physical features a lot but i’m not gonna get with a girl just cause of her boobs and vagina. Besides, there’s already so much pressure women get from stereotyping what a “perfect” girl should look like. Women should be free to look however they ant without feeling the pressure.
November 19, 2011 at 3:23 am | Anonymous
Multiple posts on this. More than on EnvironmentEvolutionHistoryHumanRightsNatureNews & PoliticsPerforming ArtsPhilosophyPsychologyReligionScienceSocietySpaceSpiritualTechnologyor War and possibly similar post numbers as movies or music! Did anyone see the street Lisa passed by . It was the Nile St.
November 20, 2011 at 12:53 am | Ray
” love it, love your flaps”
Her lovely voice echoes through my head
November 20, 2011 at 3:09 am | Solinyasinoocean
aha~~nice sentence~
November 22, 2011 at 4:46 am | gratis horoskop
hahaha, same here!!
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” love it, love your flaps”
Her lovely voice echoes through my head
November 22, 2011 at 11:36 pm | Erin
I shave down there and I find it offensive that you hint that men that like shaved vaginas are pedophiles. It is a matter of PREFERENCE. It is so insulting to say that because of my body hair, it makes men who are attracted to me, pedophiles.
November 25, 2011 at 1:33 pm | Axel White
Anyone else having a documentary night?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRxxe0tO61c&feature=youtu.be
November 25, 2011 at 1:42 pm | Axel White
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRxxe0tO61c&feature=youtu.be
November 25, 2011 at 1:43 pm | Bruno Sweetdog
Seriously good work!!!
November 28, 2011 at 2:38 am | yo
Folks, you do realise that a lot of women nowadays want men to be shaven as well. Its nothing to do with sexism. Im 25 years old and shave because women of that age expect you to be shaven.
For the record, i like when a women is unshaven but have been told by women that i should shave. My male friends shave as well.
Women on here will use any excuse to accuse men of being sexist, when you guys are often the first to insult men and their penis size, etc.. Queue, female quote regarding my penis size for having said this..
Try seeing things from the other side and maybe you wont feel so hard done by.. rant over!!
December 2, 2011 at 7:12 am | DennaH
Great doco. I just wish people would realise that a “vagina” is only one passage in a woman’s genitals, not the name of the whole thing. It’s like looking at a woman with a shapely bum and saying ‘wow, nice anus’. The correct word is vulva.
December 7, 2011 at 4:50 pm | Pabby
i don’t think anyone really cares hun…..sorry!
December 7, 2011 at 8:55 pm | Anus Destroyer
Sincerely I would rather watch a movie called ”The perfect vagina” than another called ”The perfect vulva”…
December 2, 2011 at 11:29 pm | Tristan
I honestly wish all women would realize that men don’t particularly have any interest in a “perfect vagina”. I have been with a number of women and the way there vagina looks has never been an issue. I admit hair has been an issue but I don’t ask my girlfriend to shave it on my behalf, in fact I prefer her to have some hair cause I like the fact that she’s a Woman! You should look like one if you choose! That being said there are those extreme cases where the labia is enormous and it would be understandable for a woman to choose this for self confidence. I personally see the beauty in a unique vagina and think that it makes it more special for me that my girl is this beautiful flower. This beautiful flower is with me.
December 3, 2011 at 9:27 am | Jonno
Australian Guy 28yrs old
Just want to let all the woman of the world that there is no such thing as an ugly vagina and that going through that kind of ordeal for anyone but yourself is absolutely ludicrous.
I love all pussy’s, all shapes, colours and sizes. Less hair is cool, and I think most guys will tell you honestly that they don’t care as long as they’re getting in there…LOL
December 3, 2011 at 5:51 pm | Audrey Bear Ndaba
“ohhhh, mi lips eh burning” _ROTFLMAO
December 7, 2011 at 5:12 pm | Pabby
When around other young blokes of my age we definitely talk about whether women’s bits are nice or mingin. Smell and taste is the most important thing, then saggy flaps and hair. Trust me girls, whatever the fat sweaty men who try to groom women on the internet by posting ‘i really like it’ or ‘be proud of yourself’ comments agree or not, the good looking lads DO care. Keep it trim and smelling nice and surgery usually isn’t necessary, but if it looks like a hairy donner kebab, don’t be surprised if you have a succession of very short relationships.
January 3, 2012 at 6:56 am | Laddy and the Blokes
So you’re a “good looking lad”? Why don’t you show off with your photo, if it’s true?
Do all of your trimmed girlfriends have long relationships?
“Surgery USUALLY isn’t necessary”?!? Have you and your little blokes ever even seen one in real life?
January 10, 2012 at 11:46 am | tony123
wo wo wo wo.. calm down hun. I to do agree with the guy. and I have had a few 3 or 4 year relationships. If a woman, has an ugly vagina, its more than off putting. but to be honest, I have never seen one that bad. the ones in the show, I hope are very unique and most women have nice - mediocre vaginas. But, the young girl in the documentary, I was on her side. No man would want to give oral to that. And I love to give oral!
January 14, 2012 at 10:41 pm | Adam Kontras
You are out of your ever-loving mind. The young girl was perfectly normal. What the fuck is wrong with people.
January 20, 2012 at 2:50 pm | Werwer
I think he means the young girl in the photo with the huge wizard robe ‘lips’ that the dr. shows in his office as the ‘reason he does this work’. And not the other young girl that just had 1-2 cm removed because she wanted the perfect vajayjay.
p.s. That doctor is full of shit, using such an Extreme example to justify the 99% of the operations which aren’t at all necessary, and just performed to give some women a deluded sense of ‘perfection, and of course to fill the doctors wallet.
January 5, 2012 at 7:27 am | Kongkakingchongcha
I’ve been thinking, since when people favours shaving their reproductive organs? I remember watching porns up to the 80s where people still have unshaven genitals. Isn’t it like hair where you wash it every day so it’s still fresh? Doesn’t it get itchy after a couple of weeks? Also, wouldn’t your hair become thick after a number of shaves?
I just don’t understand why people would shave THERE…
January 8, 2012 at 5:08 pm | Anonymous
That’s why you wax. Every time you wax it comes in a little thinner and it takes a great deal longer to come back compared to shaving.
January 11, 2012 at 2:47 pm | DaHerbalis
Shaving doesn’t make hair thicker.
January 12, 2012 at 7:46 pm | Stevenjamesisaacson
I think you’re ‘Pabby’ still a virgin.
January 19, 2012 at 5:32 am | Romeo
It’s definitely not a conversation I have ever had with my mates. Never met a vag I didn’t like. Well alright thats not true, but that was a hygiene issue not an aesthetic one.
January 20, 2012 at 1:00 pm | Bbrown32
I’m no shrinking violet but I’ve never been involved with other blokes in the kind of conversation you talk about. You hang around with a rather strange crew, if you don’t mind me saying so. Can’t you lot find something more edifying to talk about, such as genital warts or herpes? So forget personality, looks, sense of humour etc, if a GF doesn’t shave she’s out, and you’ll damned-well let your cronies know all about it, too? Quite, quite bizarre.
January 23, 2012 at 2:52 pm | Simon Moore
Simple healthy maintenance is important as in practising good hygiene
and being well washed clean etc. Goes for blokes too, decisions on shaving, patterns, trimming bikin waxing etc is all personal choice, but being clean and hygienic obviously is an important factor, this may be what the above guy was alluding to?
February 11, 2012 at 2:54 am | DH
Well your probably a boring conservative middle aged old man who cant even remember what it smells like.
February 15, 2012 at 6:36 pm | Razvan Leon York
The ramblings of a closet homosexual.
December 10, 2011 at 5:40 pm | Cactotron
Interesting documentary; silly debate in the commentaries. Have you even watched the damn thing?
Try to understand: it’s not about wether it’s legit or not for someone to dislike flaps or like hairless genitals. Everyone will agree that a person is entitled to their sexual and aesthetic preferences. Nothing wrong here. Simply cultural practices linked to one of humankind’s greatest constructions: erotism.
The real problem, and I think that’s also what you should remember from the film, is the fact everyone thinks they have the right to tell a woman what she should or should not do with her body. And it’s not just about labiaplasty or shaving: it also involves sexual practices, piercings and tattoos, being pregnant, hairstyles, make-up and whatnot. The real debate isn’t about hair, of flaps, or anything else: it’s about the fact people still think today that they know better than a woman herself what is good for her. The double standard here is huge, and unfair. It’s pure sexism and people are seemingly blind to it. No one can tell a guy what he has to do; everyone can tell a girl what she has to do.
Also, yes, it is kind of important that they didn’t use the correct term in the title. The female genitalia is already enough of a mysterious area for the scientific community without false ideas being spread in the population.
December 12, 2011 at 6:39 pm | Guest
as long as you shave it girls your all good
December 12, 2011 at 7:56 pm | gper
“Love it, love your flaps.” It is easy for her to say even after having her children, but think back to the photo of the 16 year old girl who wanted her surgery. I saw the photo and thought it didn’t look normal…it must be difficult lugging around such a huge insecurity, especially in an area of your body that most people share only during the most intimate moments. The labiaplasty, like any cosmetic surgery, is just that – cosmetic – meant to improve your appearance and possibly improve self esteem and confidence, even if no one else can see it.
December 13, 2011 at 5:24 am | Andrea E.
I use to be self conscious about my “flaps”. But I found out that the more skin there is, the more sensitive the outside and inside is. Which I find to be true, in my case. Its a buffer between the outside world, and the nerves.
Any man I’ve ever been with LOVES how long they are. And they aren’t THAT long. I use to be scared that someone would see it and laugh. Never had any complaints except they get a bit in the way, at first entry. I keep it clean, I keep it trimmed, it smells nice. If a man is so shallow that he thinks my cave looks gross because of something I can’t control, then I don’t want to be fucking him to begin with…
December 14, 2011 at 8:10 am | Anonymous
Was that a 16-year-old? That wasn’t ordinary at all!
December 16, 2011 at 5:52 am | Sunshinearms
Did it ever occur to anyone that these flabby vaginas are a result of monster cocks? No virgin has lips like those mentioned in the film. Another thing, hairy vaginas stink. Urine that passes through the hair festers, its gross. Keep it hairy if you aren’t interested in head ladies
December 17, 2011 at 11:39 am | HappyAsIAm
I don’t shave and my labia are not particularly tight, and I’ve never had a guy complain. If he did, I’d find someone with a better sense of values who doesn’t want to put me through pain and discomfort. In fact, I have. He loves me as I am.
December 17, 2011 at 12:00 pm | john
As my comment, see http://www.brightonbodycasting.com/design-a-vagina.php which contains some good comments on the subject.
December 17, 2011 at 5:40 pm | Lcoixna
British tv is so much superior to that in the US.
December 18, 2011 at 6:01 am | sparklebean
women getting the labia surgery, i think they aren’t victims of anything but their own stupidity. if they want to mutilate themselves to cater to men, that’s their problem. i’m happy with my yoni, i’ve studied pictures of it from every angle and know it like the back of my hand & yes it contracts & expands, looks different at different times. men who complain of saggy or baggy are ignorant about anatomy & have a personal problem with themselves, afterall i wouldn’t like balls that haven’t dropped so i have to wonder why a man would want everything ‘tucked in’. weird weird weird. definitely not a trustworthy man.
December 18, 2011 at 9:35 pm | Island Man
Hi girls. I have no problem with any vaginas. The bigger the better.
December 21, 2011 at 6:56 pm | Luke
We get our foreskin cut off to make it nicer, there is no reason why women cant do the same
December 22, 2011 at 1:50 am | TL
I see no difference between this and cosmetic dental surgery, except this is carries even less risk to the patient . PPl are just making a hullabaloo because it sex related. As for the ” Your perfect the way you are” merchants. I’m sorry but somethings are more attractive that others, straight teeth same as neat vagina, are more attractive (ask any man), It’s their money, it their body. As for the shaving, it called grooming, same get a hair cut, its not the media or a modern phenomenon either, Greeks and romans, did it. It not pre-pubescent thing either by the same logic a man with a clean shaved face or shaved heads would look or be attempting look pre-pubescence. Lot of women like clean shaven men, It doesn’t mean their closet pedophiles.
December 24, 2011 at 5:25 pm | Tagmr2003
Id just like to say,for some guys,doesnt matter hairy or shaven..i prefer natural…The only advice i could give for any woman…If you want oral..Keep it clean …
Theres men who are fussie…Then theres men who arent…Its your porogative…
December 26, 2011 at 7:00 pm | John
Maybe 2012 will be the year this less-than-mediocre documentary makes it off Documentary Heaven’s “most popular” list. The list is stagnant, and this doc – which had potential to be good but wallows in the subjective reactions of the film-maker far too much – is evidence (along with the 7 rating) of that.
The woman who made this doc far too often thinks watchers are interested in her little soliloquies about how something made her feel, or how her own personal upbringing and outlook on the world affects her own attitudes. Sure, there’s room for some of that, but it repeats and the result is interesting subjects are not probed (no pun intended) and you will often find yourself thinking “why didn’t you pursue that idea with that person instead of changing the conversation to yourself, again”
December 29, 2011 at 8:38 am | Macca007
Don’t have to be completely bald ladies especially if you have sensitive skin,Just trim it right back so its neat and tidy,Also more hygienic.
Same applies to us blokes, If it’s tidy down there you get more action if you get my drift and it is also more hygienic as well. I think both sexes don’t want any added dental floss when it’s bedroom time!
For me I have a sensitive nose and hate most smells wether it’s food, perfume or body parts it doesn’t matter all seem too potent,So smell is most important, Then hair as that effects smell to some degree,Then it would be looks last! But hey everyones different.
December 29, 2011 at 3:08 pm | Fupa
Good god, women are so insecure they have to confront their “nonies” now? I found the nony group far squickier than the actual 3 second surgery. Now I know I have a superior, non hanging labia, but what to do about the Fupa?!! Are there nony confronter groups in the states? Damn ladies, shave it, wax it, keep it clean. Are we such whiners that we have to obsess about healthy body parts hardly anyone sees anyway? P.S….I always thought a fanny was an ass. So I learned two things today. Nice to see the narrator become the patron saint of nonies, too.
December 29, 2011 at 8:17 pm | John
I can only assume somebody has paid documentaryheaven to keep this mediocre doc near the top of the “most popular” list for a year now.
December 31, 2011 at 5:58 pm | Anusan Moorthy
http://seekgoogle.com/?q=How+cool+is+this+documentary%3F
January 1, 2012 at 6:44 am | am
these women are insane. they need therapy, not surgery.
January 2, 2012 at 9:52 am | Josh
I don’t know if Pabby is right, I actually like the easier access to the labia minora and think that those that stick out are quite pretty. Shaving is also not that necessary either, this is subjective, please do be proud of yourselves.
January 2, 2012 at 11:08 am | Anusan Moorthy
http://www.gottold.com/
January 3, 2012 at 10:14 am | guest
I am a male in a relationship. My girlfriend shaves most of the time. I don’t ask her to. I don’t really care. That’s how she likes it. I don’t shave mine and she tells me to or to trim it all the time. I tell her that if she wants it shaved she can get in there and do it herself. It doesn’t bother me either way so I just leave it alone and we have fequent sex so it can’t be that much of a problem for her either.
January 7, 2012 at 9:46 pm | gool
whoolllyyyyyyyyyyyyy fuckkkkkk i would never cut off or glue on a pice to my penis. this vagina surgery is insane
January 7, 2012 at 10:27 pm | elepantintheroom
best suggestion, if you are personally ashamed of being loose, keep em closed.. its a muscle
January 8, 2012 at 1:50 am | Anonymous
Ive taken photos of mine from many angles & seen its many moods & dispositions. It is clearly average. To prefer small lips is disturbing and wrong, just as a woman preferring a man who’s balls haven’t dropped would be. Put down the airbrushed photos, grow up, acknowledge reality & love the person, not the body part. If you cannot do that, please seek help for sexual dysfunction and issues with women. Women are not the enemy, the media’s portrayal of us is, stop dumping on women & deal with your sh1t.
January 8, 2012 at 5:11 pm | Anonymous
What I took away from this is that women are a bunch of extremely insecure nutters.
January 10, 2012 at 11:53 am | John
I’m sorry ladies, but it is true. Who would want to give oral to a woman with a very disgusting vagina. Thankfully most aren’t (from my experience). I have never gone down on a woman and thought wooooooooo, that is horrible. Hygiene is just as important. If not more. If it smells for example, I am out of there. (smells very badly that is)..
So yeah, it does matter to men, and it is why so many women are shy about letting men go down on them, as they are cautious about what they guy will think of their vagina. But like I said, between me and all of my friends across the country who have relationships, flings, one night stands or whatever, I have only ever heard of two bad cases, and that must be out of 100′s of women. So it must be very rare to have a bad vagina!
January 10, 2012 at 5:58 pm | Urielh
i understand the point of the guys about oral sex. even if i’m a girl. but at the same time, better not forget that a dick and balls aren’t reaaaaally what you could call pretty or “sexy”. balls look flask on all the men without exception. But i’ve never been put of buy that as long as i like the person. I don’t really care about the “ugliness” of the men’s appendices dandling around (^^) I don’t think about it, i just get excited by the idea of giving pleasure to the person i love. sex in itself isn’t “clean” and all pretty. it’s animal like, wet, slimy and noisy (and not always cute or sexy noises^^) but as long as you love the person you’re doing it with, you don’t really care about that. It’s fun and loving at the same time. I love giving oral sex to my lover, but you have to admit that complaining about the size of a girl’s labias or clitoris isn’t really logical if you consider the difference with putting even the hugest clitoris in your mouth to the size of a dick or balls ^^ haha
But i wouldn’t be angry at men thinking like that either. i can understand their point. But i d think it lack a bit of objectivity. It’s a little like guy saying they’re put off by a woman with hair under their arm-pit (i don’t do that myself but i can understand that a woman doesn’t want to shave hers) when the guy complaining about it does have hair under his arm-pits himself ^^
I know it’s not really the guys fault for thinking like that, because they grew up in a society where they have been sort of “lobotomized” or “brain washed” about that. It’s thus natural for them not to find it to their taste, and i understand. But at the same time, it would be nice if someday they can admit that they know it’s unfair to complain about it.
“ok that’s not to my taste, but i admit that it’s unfair of me to ask something of someone that i don’t want to do myself” or something like that^^
As long as the guys don’t say it with disdain and in a really respectful way, i think that’s also fair to respect their tastes.
At the same time, i don’t think you can say that the reason for the women to lack of self-esteem is “due” to a guy thinking un-objectively about the women appearance. Everyone is responsible of his/her own esteem and way of thinking.
Girls saying that guys are horrible for thinking like that (when they have been “brain washed” since childhood by the social context.In some african countries, for example, guys prefer girls with huge labias. so the women even stretch them as much as possible to find a husband. That’s cultural) , but at the same time saying that those guys are responsible for the women lack of self esteem is a huge contradiction. That would mean that guys are ust responsible for everything^^
It reminds me of a lot of women i heard complaining about the fact that the guys don’t put the toilet-rim back down once they finish to pee….it always made me laugh^^They ask them to put it up to pee or they complain, but afterward they need to put it back down for the women to use comfortably ^^ haha so they ask the guy to do 2 “actions” when they don’t do any. what would be fair would be that they put it up and the women put it down. I know that it sounds like a strange comparison but that’s just the best way to resume a huge part of the feminism i found funny and ridiculous^^ Everything is the men fault!!!! haha^^So in conclusion : guys, you can have your own tastes, but don’t forget to be also objective about the fact that your genital appendices aren’t really pretty and that girsl still often put it in their mouths without making disgusting comments about it. ( if a girl does that , she’s stupid too:) and girls, try to work on your own self esteem as well. guys aren’t responsible for the fact that you don’t feel content about your boobs or your vagina. If a guy doesn’t like your vaginas, just find another one who won’t care. personally, i wouldn’t like to go out with someone who doesn’t accept my faults while he’s asking me to accept his. So if a guy doesn’t like my bobs or dunno what, i won’t complain, that’s his tastes, but i won’t feel that i’ve lost anything by not being with him. that’s all! ^^(ho and i also heard some women talking about guys dicks and mocking the guys about it…i find that plain stupid as well. But that’s a proof that it’s not a “guy thing” it’s just plain human to talk shit about someone behind his/her back ^^ So be misanthropic instead of being feminist ^^
January 11, 2012 at 6:31 pm | mickael giunta
I understand some concern about vagina surgery…but at least girl can do something about it…What about man????
If we have small, or ugly penis we don’t have any solutions….And women are way worse then man in the sense that there are more women make fun of man penis that man making fun of “ugly” Vagina..
PS. I think that all vagina are nice…i like to see differences on vaginas…imaginea world with all vagina looking the same…
January 12, 2012 at 4:36 pm | John
Not a very good doc. The woman running the show personalizes it too much. yes, she has a vagina and therefore is qualified to talk about her vagina and experiences therein, but she interjects while others are speaking about interesting things to inform them of her own opinion, often when I got the sense that the person was just about to say something interesting. She needs to learn better documentary interview skills.
And why this remains near the top of the most popular list for, what, over a year now, is a mystery. At 7.3 out of 10 it’s clearly not that popular. The most popular list is clearly broken, please fix it or remove it.