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The Perfect Vagina

After having watched Penis Size Insecurity By Men, it’s now time to move on to lesson two and have a look at womens insecurities: The Perfect Vagina.

Fronted by Lisa Rogers, this documentary focuses on the rise in vaginal cosmetic surgery, specifically labiaplasty. For the uninitiated, labiaplasty involves cutting off the inner labia so that they don’t ‘hang’ below the outer labia. Ouch! The labiaplasty business has skyrocketed over the past few years, and Lisa’s mission was to find out why so many women hate the appearance of their vulvas to the point that they’d willingly have pieces of them surgically removed.

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  1. I had my vagina cast by Jamie in Brighton, and I just want to say, it was a lovely experience. If you’re thinking of visiting him, I highly recommend him. Jamie was absolutely lovely – warm, friendly, completely non-judgmental, non-sexual, etc. I asked lots of questions and he answered them all, and told some interesting stories (he’s a straight, married man who has also made dildos and casts from men’s – gay and straight – sexually-aroused penises). An added plus was seeing my vagina in cast form (Oh, that little thing. Is that all it is? It’s quite pretty.) and being able to see the collective sculpture of many other vagina casts and see the variation, and the normality in all that range of my own. Highly recommended.

  2. Amazing documentary. So much I want to say in comment to it, but I just can’t focus my thoughts enough. I had only just heard of this form of surgery and honestly it appalls me, that society would corrupt women enough to think that their vaginas were ugly and needed to be reshaped or mutilated. Very, very good look into this new, hopefully only, fad. I hope more women get the chance to look at themselves and realize that trying to look ‘perfect’ only takes away from their own unique originality.

  3. Niccceeeee…

    • Warning – the above comment is a fake, and was used just to insert a link to a fraudulent website. This website is a con: they take money without providing the service they claim.

  4. Women never cease to amaze me as to how stupid they can be. Labia trim!!! I love large inner labia. I love the orchid look of the folds in inner labia. God, if I was a woman, these idiots would really embarrass me.

    •  orchid like or dead bats wings its all the same to me, why hate or blush? if you were a woman you would see the world from a womans perspective and relate to her man made presures. its a misogynistic world, if i was an idiots like you , you idiots would really embarrass me.

  5. i had no idea how ugly mine was. lol and it doesn’t bother me at all.

  6. I wish that she would have talked more about waxing and hairless vaginas. because I’ve felt pressure from guys to shave down south, but I get really TERRIBLE razor burn, and not just there, on my armpits and legs too, so i wish she would have talked more about that, i have decided not to shave down south because it physically hurts, and it makes you look prepubescent, which surely says something about guys that dislike hair……i just hope that someday i can find another guy who won’t want me to shave, i think that if he loves me for me, then he won’t have a problem with my hairy pussy.

    • I am a 21 year old female. I have shaved since i was teased about it in the 9th grade. I had a boyfriend and he had seen it and touched it, but he seemed to love it. A lot. I let a 15 year old girl convince me that I was a disgusting person. I have naturally sensitive skin, and through the years I have nicked myself so many times. I have a skin tag, a small dark spot, and a tiny scar in my pubic area from shaving incorrectly. I had relationships with horrible guys until I met my fiancé, and over time he rebuilt my self esteem. One day I was in such pain from razor burns, I blurted out- “I hate that women have to shave! It hurts so bad!”
      That man answered without hesitation, he already “had” me so this was not a pick up line. He said,” baby why do you do that if it hurts? Please do whatever makes you happy, because that is what makes me happy.”

      Men who love you, truly love you, will never want you to hurt yourself for their desires. And women who truly love a man, will never hold him to a standard set by anyone other than herself. If you can’t meet her standards, why don’t you go find a girl who doesn’t have any? Maybe it’s because the ones that don’t have any self worth are the girls you treated like shit. If you stop creating girls with insecurities, you will actually have to stop being a loser to get laid.

      We are powerful, girls. I went from an emotional basket case who had NO self esteem, to a proud confident loved woman. One man showed me how to treat myself, and I promise one is out there for you too. Hurting yourself is abusing your body and showing you do not value it. So surround yourself with people who cherish and respect your body.

    • Never trust Anglo-American sexual ‘advice’ because a sizeable majority of are either tools of the cosmetic industry, raised on degrading
      internet porn, or puritan clean-freak that are convinced that foreskins
      and pubic hair are “dirty”.

      Usually all three on internet fourms…

      Consenting adults should do as they please – but let’s understand that
      evolution made human genitals just fine, no razor blades or lasers
      required.

    • ”which surely says something about guys that dislike hair” Yes If you don’t like going down on a very hairy vagina as a male or you prefer women that have shaved armpits you are automatically a pedophile. Very logical thinking of you Emily. You are near minutes away from getting your psychiatrist degree……

    • Oh honey, ignore all of this rubbish! Your appeal – sexual and otherwise – comes from within, from your SOUL, and NOT from any other outside worthless source! I agree with ‘Justanotherday’ (comment below) – stop watching television (I stopped ten years ago and it’s the BEST thing I’ve ever done for myself…), stop giving credence to any form of media at all (because it exists solely to dumb you down, and manipulate your emotions to the point of crippling your intelligence – so you’ll believe them and buy their products!) and concentrate on your soul. Your eyes will express your inner beauty, and that way all who come into your life will be able to see the true you when you look at them… Love x

    • Honey, I love a JUNGLE down there and HATE hairless pubescent vaginas. A full bush of hair is a sign of virility to me and a women should never, ever be forced to shave. I fact, I love how my wife’s hair appears from the sides of her thong panties. This is a of her sexual power over her panties, with her panties saying: HELP ME, her vagina is too strong to contain me.

      There are a lot of us guys out there who want nothing to do with hairless vaginas. When my ex-wife told me that she started shaving after we broke up, I was disappointed and knew that I would never be sexually attracted to her again. I was right. My present wife rocks and never shaves down hers and it even gives off an sensual aroma when aroused. God put hair there for a purpose, so don’t ever shave it. Get with a real man who will love you in spite of your looks below your waist.

    • its about going down and coming up with a mouth full of hair

    • Moisturize with a non-alcohol moisturizer after shaving.

    • Emily, how does shaving your pubes make you look any more pubescant than shaving your legs and armpits. it’s about getting rid of unflattering hair, not about looking young.

    • If you want a guy to have his face down there, you need to be clean. You wouldn’t want to do the same for a guy who hadn’t showered would you? Well, the whole evolutionary point in having hair down there is to hold on to scents and pheramones. Thing is, we wear lots of clothes now so it get damp, warm and very bacterial. If you expect a man to be clean before intimacy, you should be willing to do the same.

    • This is a fantastic documentary, watched it on British Tv first time round. The point is about the culture of image ‘perfection’ and the lengths some women go to because of the psychological pressure they feel to be perfect. I think this is due largely to the explosion of pornography. This pornographic explosion has affected the way we all perceive sex and our bodies. Hair, size spots etc. I was hocked that vaginoplasty existed, it is a terrible thing, sadly it is the way of the world now, as with breast enlargement.
      What saddens me more as a man are the awful comments some of you have made. Why would this programme make you angry? I think sexist doesn’t come close to describe your personalities, I think Fascist is the only word I know for people such as yourselves.
      To the ladies out there, men are desperate for sex most of the time, they may talk big but all they really want is to be loved same as you. You in reality have all the sexual power, so don’t worry about your appearance, because there will be 100 men out there who don’t care for every 1 that does. If guys have a problem with the way you look, kick them to the curb and find a decent, modern male.

    • Emily, there are significant numbers of guys out there who love hairy pussy’s and proactively look to discourage woman from shaving, I wish more women would realise this fact….

    • Thats an interesting point “it makes you look prepubescent, which surely says something about guys that dislike hair” As a man who has been told by alot of female partners that they want me to be clean shavin on my face. I wonder whether that means there is pressure on men to look prepubescent as well?  

      • I have thought the same thing

      • There is a big difference between having hair on your genitals or on your face, unless you are a dickhead, which it sounds as though you are Hwhite.

        • What is the distinction? I don’t think there is a big difference at all. For me, I request this of girls who enjoy having oral sex performed on them. I enjoy performing it, but not if I’m getting hair up my nose.

          I certainly sympathize with the discomfort. I have been asked to shave “down there” even as a man, and I shave my face every day which often leaves razor burn to at least some degree. Still, I feel as though this wasn’t mentioned because it is not a problem specifically effecting women.

          • Never really cared about how a vigina looks, and it’s not about prepubescene; it’s about getting hair in your mouth. I’m a man, and I shave because it’s easier to keep clean. Simple… 🙂

    • Emily, I understand you like being natural, but have you tried shaving underwater?  As in while taking a bath?  I typically find baths relaxing, but shower afterward.  Anyways, just food for thought, even though you posted so long ago.  But yes, there are  plenty of men out there there prefer hair down there.  Most men that I have been with prefer some hair versus none, just FYI.  They have complained that no hair makes them feel weird, as if, well i think you get the rest.  Anyways, good luck and do what makes YOU happy! Just wasn’t sure if you have ever tried shaving underwater… sound weird but might be of help…

    • If you love a guy enough and he shaves his junk then you should wax shave or at least use clippers and groom so it’s short.  There is nothing grosser then a women that does not shave!  And oral sex for you is out of the question.  And you are whacked if you think guys who want their girls to be shaved are sick or have a problem!

    • Hairless is a man’s fantasy about young girls … it is the man’s fantasy that he is the first , only and best (and of course the biggest)

      • what? where id you get that idea?? i take it you are a woman because a guy would never say anything that retarded!

    • No need to shave a vagina there are so many man that love hairy pus…
      I my self love hairy V. ;).

    • Emily, if you get razor burns there are a few ways to deal with it: change your razor, wax, trim, or use one of those foams that remove hair.  but if nothing works, the trimmed look is better than the bush. as a girl, I wax- it was painful at first but overtime it gets much better to the point that i barely feel it, the skill of the waxing lady plays a big part in the amount of pain you feel as well. its the same for men, i like when men are trimmed down there, a bush is a turn off. men like shaved parts not because they look prepubescent but because they see more, and thus get turned on. moreover it is more hygienic, because the private parts sweat more the more hair there is. and unlike the hair on our heads, our private parts don’t get constantly ventilated.  

    • Hair traps smell. Pretty simple… He may love you for you but the smell will chase him away eventually….

    • its not as though all men want hairless vaginas. I personally like a little hair, but only above the lips. I love to give oral, and its not nice to lick the lips of a hairy vagina! 

    • Emily. The suggestion that men want their partner to look pre pubescent is disgraceful. That is accusing us of being paedophiles and I am disgusted. I shave my genital area. I would even consider waxing as I find the contact of flesh on flesh extremely sensual. 

    • I find the entire conversation that steamed from this hillarious. If you love someone it shouldn’t matter (If you just want to get laid, it might be a different story). I am in my healthiest relationship to date and this is never an issue. We each have personal preferance for ourselves, but we have talked about it and it doesn’t make a differance. If you have tried different things and are gun-ho about your body one way or another, no one should try to influence you. I’m all natural and my boyfriend loves it because I’m always clean. HEALTH IS WHAT MATTERS MOST. If my clean bush is a big enough deterant for anyone then obviously they only care about sex; you have to take me the way I really am if you want access to the most personal thing about me. Everyone should think that highly of themselves.

    • lol I dont think its a matter of prepubescent attraction, for me its more a matter of not getting a mouth full of carpet lol…..  How ever i do feel where your coming from , im a hairy as beast all over my body in fact my hair is so thick that when the misses tried to wax me bum cheeks no hair came of i was simply left in pain and with my dags still in place.,..

    • Any guy who loves you won’t care 🙂 I know cos my boyfriend doesn’t care. The first time he shaved he was like OMG you never have to do that again! Cos of the itchiness. Seriously don’t worry about it 🙂 There are heaps of people who want laser for brazilians, which is a bit crazy because it means you end up with NO HAIR AT ALL! I think something is nice and I hate having nothing.

    • I hear you girl! That skin is sensitive and I love my lady bits furry. 🙂 Don’t let the assholes get you down. We are beautiful!

      • Bushy pussies smell funny. They also hurt like hell if you get your glans cut by one of those “beautiful”, smelly, evil hairs…

      • what assholes? women criticise mens parts similarly. The only sexist comments here have been made by you and the female presenter in singling out men as the cause or culprits for these operations. If there was a show about male penis appearances, ‘some’ women would have their preferences.. as you well know! and wouldnt be ashamed to say so.
        Have you- or your friends, ever slagged a man off about the size of his penis?
        Give me strength!!!

        • For what its worth, there WAS a show about male penis appearances. The description clearly states that it this documentary is a response to it. The host was a guy who confessed to having a 3″ penis. He got women to shape their ‘ideal’ penis only to see them being 6-7″. He had one woman laughingly tell him about the time she had sex with a guy with a 4″ penis. You know what he didn’t do? He didn’t break down in tears and call her sexist. Or hell, maybe he did. I watched it well over a year ago. Anyway where was I? Sexism! Bigotry! Rah rah!

        • This is pure truth. Women are the number one source of body image problems among other women. You buy ridiculous magazines and foster a cultural neurosis about body shape. Then, when the time comes to accept responsibility for such juvenile behavior, it’s no surprise that the blame is never aimed at the person in the mirror. It must be MEN, then! Because personal accountability would be too time consuming and trying.

        • No, I’m sorry. Neither me nor my friends have. And honestly? I really don’t care about a man’s penis.

          • Yup, definitely.  It’s not politically correct to judge women, it is politically correct not just to judge but to mock men.   And yet there’s supposed to be this HUGE male conspiracy to get women to do/act/behave a certain way.  ….  which was true 60 years ago, maybe even further.

            Seriously, when is the last time you heard of a man telling his gf “Sweetie, I need you to go buy Cosmo so you can live up to those weird fashion girl standards”.  This bullshit is all about women judging each other, and then foisting the blame off on men.

            Now, it’s true, men have their preferences.  Women have their preferences as well. However, at least the majority of the time those preferences are consistent, even if illogical.  Not the ‘common’ (and I mean, generalized/stereotyped, I realize some girl is gonna post “That’s not my type at all” next) ideal of a man who is a trustworthy badboy, a dangerous sensitive guy, a tough guy who will take care of your babies when you’re sick, a sparkling vampire….

    • Dear Emily, 
      Have some confidence and stop caring what other people think. If shaving your vagina physically hurts you – STOP DOING IT! Take the advice on general medicines – if you have adverse affects, cease immediately! 
      Clearly you need some sort of appreciation or ego boost from others if you not only do something to hurt yourself so a male thinks he might fuck you more than once, and then to post about it on a documentary site! YOU can choose to present yourself however YOU choose, and of course you can’t please everyone! 
      Stop being a silly girl and stand up for yourself. Nobody really cares whether you shave, wax or trim, or don’t. As long as you feel good about yourself, and present yourself with confidence, any guy will fuck you – if indeed that is what you want. 

    • I’m a 27 year old woman. I don’t shave anything. Occasionally, i wax my legs, armpits,  and bikini line for a change. Most of the time, i’m hairy.  None of my boyfriends (5) have ever cared.  When people say things like, “why don’t you shave?” i say “why should i?” Their reasoning is normally lame, a series of regurgitated misconceptions that in all honesty have too much weight attached to them.  Hair is a cosmetic preference like hair color, long nails, or even what kind of clothing you wear…If someone wouldn’t date you, go down on you, or would judge you for choosing a snickers bar over a milky way, how would you respond to them?  It’s just a preference that you more than he has to live with. If shaving makes your pussy burn don’t do it. Good point on the association between pre-pubescent females and shaved pussy’s.
      With confidence comes indifference. You want to feel confident in any decision you make research the subject matter.

    • I’m a 27 year old woman. I don’t shave anything. Occasionally, i wax my legs, armpits,  and bikini line for a change. Most of the time, i’m hairy.  None of my boyfriends (5) have ever cared.  When people say things like, “why don’t you shave?” i say “why should i?” Their reasoning is normally lame, a series of regurgitated misconceptions that in all honesty have too much weight attached to them.  Hair is a cosmetic preference like hair color, long nails, or even what kind of clothing you wear…If someone wouldn’t date you, go down on you, or would judge you for choosing a snickers bar over a milky way, how would you respond to them?  It’s just a preference that you more than he has to live with. If shaving makes your pussy burn don’t do it. Good point on the association between pre-pubescent females and shaved pussy’s.
      With confidence comes indifference. You want to feel confident in any decision you make research the subject matter.

      • Your paragraph is so contradictory that if you can’t read your own words and understand why you are wrong then …

        Instead, I shall simply request  you to link a picture of yourself and relevant body mass information as to confirm the assumption that… and thus making less relevant the issue of shaved pubic hair.

    • Don’t worry about it! I get terrible razor burn too, so I don’t shave at all. Sometimes I take hair clippers to keep things short, but I’m never fully shaved. As long as you practice the usual hygiene there won’t be any difference to being shaven. Heck, I find that I smell MORE when I do shave! <3 <3

    • Please ignore the idiotic men who have responded. I am a man in a relationship and have absolutely no interest in internet women, and I can say I much prefer a woman who has some hair down there. I also feel hairless looks far too childlike and it is a complete turn-off to me. I suggest just keeping it neatly trimmed. 

      On another note, pubic hair exists for a reason. It aids in keeping your genitals clean, keeping back any debris, and allowing natural body oils to not just sit there against the skin. It is the same reason humans grow armpit hair.

      • Actually, that’s kind of funny point… how many girls here don’t shave their pits as well as their bush?  if it’s such a great defense against debris (what sort of underwear are you wearing that you have debris accumulating down there, happily engaged?  Or is that your wife getting debris there?)  then why aren’t you all saying you don’t shave your pits either?

    • Please ignore the idiotic men who have responded. I am a man in a relationship and have absolutely no interest in internet women, and I can say I much prefer a woman who has some hair down there. I also feel hairless looks far too childlike and it is a complete turn-off to me. I suggest just keeping it neatly trimmed. 

      On another note, pubic hair exists for a reason. It aids in keeping your genitals clean, keeping back any debris, and allowing natural body oils to not just sit there against the skin. It is the same reason humans grow armpit hair.

    • Please ignore the idiotic men who have responded. I am a man in a relationship and have absolutely no interest in internet women, and I can say I much prefer a woman who has some hair down there. I also feel hairless looks far too childlike and it is a complete turn-off to me. I suggest just keeping it neatly trimmed. 

      On another note, pubic hair exists for a reason. It aids in keeping your genitals clean, keeping back any debris, and allowing natural body oils to not just sit there against the skin. It is the same reason humans grow armpit hair.

    • 1. If you cant shave, at least trim with scissors
      2. Wax
      3. WAX!
      4. Yes there are men who like hair, but most of them like to hit on women on comment threads…
      5. How about wax?

    • I do want to comment on the shaving issue. People have different likes
      and dislikes. However the b.s. statement……. it makes you look prepubescent, which surely says something about guys that dislike hair………… is beyond insulting!, You are inferring pedophilia. What a bullcrap F’ing statement
      to make.

      1) A big ole bush is a mess to get through when performing oral on your
      partner.( nobody likes pulling hair out of their teeth)   

      2) it covers up that very pretty and lovable part of the female
      anatomy.  One great solution is just trim it up, have a landing strip,
      be creative. (or keep it furry if you like it that way.)

       

      Does it make sense to say that if someone likes a big ole bush they
      might have tendencies toward beastialiity,…….. cause they like the hair???? I
      think not.

       

    • I do want to comment on the shaving issue. People have different likes
      and dislikes. However the b.s. statement……. it makes you look prepubescent, which surely says something about guys that dislike hair………… is beyond insulting!, You are inferring pedophilia. What a bullcrap F’ing statement
      to make.

      1) A big ole bush is a mess to get through when performing oral on your
      partner.( nobody likes pulling hair out of their teeth)   

      2) it covers up that very pretty and lovable part of the female
      anatomy.  One great solution is just trim it up, have a landing strip,
      be creative. (or keep it furry if you like it that way.)

       

      Does it make sense to say that if someone likes a big ole bush they
      might have tendencies toward beastialiity,…….. cause they like the hair???? I
      think not.

       

      • Hey Gopman, I couldn’t agree more. I am going to put hair on the food of the next woman who says that a guy is into underage girls because they like hairless lady parts

    • Nobody likes plucking hair out of their teeth.  Shave your twat if you want a healthy sex life!

      • No, ‘plucking a hair out of your teeth’ isn’t fun… but I’ve done it from time to time because it happens even when giving a blow-job. However, would I want my man to shave it down there? Oooo… no , gross!!! It would look like a little boy and I want my man to be and look like a man! Why do you want a woman to look like a prepubescent girl? Don’t you think that’s a bit creepy?

        • Excellent point. This CA man agrees with you.
          There is a whole new industry based on making people want
          to be hairless. It’s all about money, as usual.

      • Likewise, Mike, likewise. ^^

        • Are you serious? Why would it be their if it was meant to be shaved off? You can call it evolution or God, or whatever, but if you have good hygiene, and bathe everyday it shouldn’t smell bad or harbor germs, if it does then the woman you’re with has a yeast infection, or bacterial infection or STD… see Samuel’s comment below! 

          • Pubic hair is primarily about holding in scents and pheromones that were used by our simian ancestors to guage ovulation, physical health and suitability. It is more or less vestigial, and at best, a nuisance to most people. It is alright to have an aesthetic preference in favor of it. But don’t try to bring destiny into it and don’t try to deny that it takes more than a single hour to have your most covered, damp and warm bits build up significant bacteria.

          • Im not denying anything, I like it dirty!
            But for all of you playing the bacteria card. Im sure you tried sticking it the asshole once and isnt that like 10x as dirty as a hairy pussy. And for those people that arent experienced all around you shouldnt be the ones handing out advise

          • So do you not shave your pits?  Put on makeup?  Dye your hair?  Wear a bra?  Wear clothes in general? Use a cell phone?  Use a computer? (At least we know the answer to that)

            There’s a whole shitload of ‘unnatural, not god-given’ things that we use today that mean the standards of “what we evolved with’ don’t apply.  Bringing that up is a stupid arguement unless you’re living in a cave scratching fleas out of your tangled nappy unwashed hair.

          • Well said. What bullshit (typically female) logic.

          • What typically male bullshit without any logic behind it.

    • I have the razor burn problem too yet at the same time I don’t like a ton of hair on my guy.  So I feel as though I have to be the same.  I found shaving the under bits works great and just keeping it trimmed on top.  But I completely understand and commend you.

    • I have the razor burn problem too yet at the same time I don’t like a ton of hair on my guy.  So I feel as though I have to be the same.  I found shaving the under bits works great and just keeping it trimmed on top.  But I completely understand and commend you.

    •  You’re inferring that a fairly sizable portion of men (those who aren’t big fans of pubic hair) are pedophiles. I don’t mind pubic hair that much myself, but I know a lot of people (who aren’t pedophiles) that really can’t stand it, for a variety of reasons, none of them being a love of having sex with children. Also, the last time I checked, prepubescent children didn’t have breasts, or wide hips like women have.

    • dear emily, when you shave your pussy, you want to go with downward strokes only, do not push down on it. I remember when I first started. I gave myself wicked bad razor burn and it got all itchy. I personally do not think it is comfortable to have pubic hair. it gets pulled at random moments in my clothing, or grows in wrong and collects smell. I am not telling you that it is bad to not shave i just think it is more cleanly. waxing i hear is a great alternative if you like pain in your va jay jay but it leaves you smooth like a dolphin. lol. now I shave all the time. you must remember to do it fairly frequently. Always go with the hair not against it. 
      hope this helps your pussy.

      • Brazilians for me tend to hurt less than my upper lips. Some parts don’t even hurt. I’m not sexually active; I get them done for myself because I like it. I like feeling cleaner, especially on my period.

      • Thanks for the tip, I don’t know I have mixed feelings about the whole thing, I feel like it’s natural and that it shouldn’t be a problem, but then it comes to swim suit season, and pressures from guys, but it is helpful to know there are guys out there who do like things hairy. 

        • You know… I shave my pubic region. I have for a long time because the hair was very uncomfortable for me. I have to say though… I don’t find pubic hair attractive on men either. I’m not a pedophile (as you implied might be the case in the aversion to pubes earlier), but it’s just less awkward to me. This is why my boyfriend and I both shave (he started upon my request). I bring this up because it seems like people are making shaving out to be with war against women, but more and more men are shaving (it was even mentioned in the recent move “The Change-Up”) and don’t seem to get terribly offended if you request it of them. In the end though, it has to be something you’re comfortable with. I can’t imagine going back to having hair, on me or a partner, honestly. And the tip to shave *with* the grain is absolutely invaluable.

        • emily i like hairy pussy,we should meet up say what?

      • Thanks for the tip, I don’t know I have mixed feelings about the whole thing, I feel like it’s natural and that it shouldn’t be a problem, but then it comes to swim suit season, and pressures from guys, but it is helpful to know there are guys out there who do like things hairy. 

    • I am a guy.  Don’t let the media and shallow guys make you feel anything other than beautiful.  If you do a little research, you will find that for a long time woman had hair and it was (and still is) sexy.  Then companies like Gillette in the US figure out they could double razors sells if they convinced women to shave.  As we can see, through ingenious advertisement, it worked–and continues to work.  I like women with hair. (Groomed of course. Overall good hygiene.)  …and yes.  I am one of those guys the media claims don’t exist.  I want a women with a personality and a brain.  Something the media also claims don’t exist.  Stop watching TV and work on the things that matter and that will last a lifetime.  No one should ever have to feel this way, however, it is nothing personal–it is just business.  

      • Agreed. I love hair there and ever loved it. All guys who talking crap about it are just TV or Comercial blinded or sick. It’s natural and I’m sure before the 80’s no man would have kick a woman with hairy vagina out his bed, accept he was gay.

        • Actually, it was the mid-to-late 90’s.

        • no man would ever kick a vagina out of his bed period…. he’s already experienced half of the shame of getting her in there if she’s hideous… unless he can make it quick and inconspicuous he may as well use it. I advocate the ladies O first.. keeping it fair and real.

      • Well said 🙂

      • Im a guy and i want a woman a personality and brain. but as soon as i say physically attractiveness is also important, im a branded a shallow man-bastard.  I’m sorry that good genetics/health/physical well being are one (not all) of  my  of my priorities. Sorry for being a F’ing human being.

        • I can’t help feeling sorry for you, even if it IS a waste of my time – you needn’t apologise for being a “human being” – because “human beings” do not have or need this kind of physical hang up. What you ARE is a “Man’s Man” – and this is a type of “being” that I would suggest all women avoid like the plague. Physicalities fade with time. The inner beauty of a soul can never fade, but grows more beautiful with each lifetime… Why waste time and effort on changing something that you were born with, rather than accentuating the beauty we are all given within? I cannot think of a better way to waste a life than to concentrate any of my precious time on changing the things I was born with to please idiots who have no idea of what true beauty is to begin with!

          • Hey Angela, I’ve got a friend who would REALLY love to take you on a date. He’s just 4’10”, but makes up for that smallness with his biggish weight of 325 lbs. He had an unfortunate accident at the age of 20, which left him with only 4 teeth (well, not counting his rotten ones), 1 ear, & no tongue. That can actually be a GOOD thing, since he can’t ever talk back to you in an argument. Oh yeah, one of his legs is baddly bowed inward at the knee, causing him to not being able to walk unless you’re propping him up.

            Although he can’t help it, he only has an IQ of 82. He never was very good in school, so droped out after 7th grade, at the age of 18. He also has severe halitosis because of the bad teeth, but tries to keep in under control by always carrying one of those little $1 travel bottles of Scope in his pocket. Again, that’s not his fault, it was an aftermath of the unfortunate accident, and he’s always been dirt-poor so never could afford to have them fixed.

            But he’s got a GREAT personality & is hilariously funny. He WRITES his jokes down for you, because of the tongue-deal. You’ll eventually learn to read his mis-spelled scribbles, which aren’t his fault because of the IQ-deal.

            Since physical stuff isn’t important to you, I’m sure you’d be tickled to take my friend out on his first ever date. He’s always wanted to just give a girl one little good-night smooch on the cheek, nothing more. Surely you are just the type of kind person who can make a dream come true for this great guy. (Well, he PREFERS to be called a guy, but he’s actually a hermaphodite)

            Wow! I’ve been trying to get my friend a date for almost 8 years, ever since I met him when he was 22 years old. I’d almost given up, thinking there were no women left who could look past his very unfortunate body. Then you show up here. What a true blessing.

            Just PM me your phone# & a good time to call. I’ll get with my friend on a conference call so that I can help you understand what he’s trying to say with his grunts & noises. And then we’ll get this date all arranged & such.

            COOL!

          • By the same reasoning, gays and lesbians should just suck it, and marry into a heterosexual relationship.
            You should really think before making such a fundamental statement about human nature.
            I agree that love and lust are NOT the same thing, but to suggest to even begin a monogamous relationship with s.o. – without even a remote chance of fulfilling each other’s appetites ever (and a human’s sex drive exists not only in her teens and early twenties, but into high age!) – is naive.

        • Don’t sweat it bro, I know how you feel. I married a girl that I loved with all my heart, but I wasn’t that physically attracted to her. I thought that that was shallow though and that if I really loved her and enjoyed her company we could make it work. Well, that lasted about two years and we got divorced. Why, because physical intimacy is huge part of a relationship and if you can’t feel passionate about your partner, it will not work. Eventually you will meet someone that is attractive to you and that you are passionate about being intimate with and boom, your in trouble. The same thing goes for being with someone that you are attracted to but can’t have a conversation with, you will eventually leave them for someone that you can talk to. For a relationship to work long term you have to be physically, emotionally, and spiritually compatable to at least some degree. Otherwise you lose your passion for life in general, because all of your needs are not met.

        • …a woman with* please excuse my spelling. 🙂

          • you can’t actually help what you’re attracted to.. i mean you could stop watching television, porn or going out at all considering all the damn advertisement but it just wouldn’t be worth it. truth is.. healthy is hot. tell that to a lady and she’ll love you forever.. unless she’s overweight or decrepit skinny with raptor arms and shit. if a woman’s bicep and forearm have less circumference than her elbow…. she’s a creature.

          • Funny but true

      • Dude your a cheese ball.

      • This guy is just tryin to get laid. Play on a females emotions so they feel comfortable and then jump. We’re men, we’re animals. Not only is a shaved private spot more clean, it looks and smells healthier. The bush is out and will not make a come back in the near future. There is tho, men and womean out there that still like hairy folks. Basically the “Rugged” look. But if you pay attention on how much Justanotherday writes on his views, it’s no mistake this person is out to stalk women on the internet. I wouldn’t be surprised if he tried to contact you already, using your emial in this site. Watch yourself for this guys and others that will tell you exactly what you want to hear. Take it from me, one who has played and preyed on the weakness of women on the internet looking for any kind of acceptance. Good luck.


        • if you pay attention on how much Justanotherday writes on his views, it’s no mistake this person is out to stalk women on the internet. I wouldn’t be surprised if he tried to contact you already ”

          totally digressing but that above sounds like the most outdated ignorant stereotype of someone who visits the internet i’ve heard since primary school… maybe you’re some kind of weird freak 
          Shon Baydur but justanotherday has a far more balanced logical opinion than you, i think you need to stop trying to scare people in the most contrived way possible. its okay, we understand you’re scared because women are starting to stand up for themselves these days =] guess it’ll be harder for you to ”prey” and ”play” on womens weakness

          • “someone who visits the internet” bahahaha, genius. here, why don’t you have a banana and shut up genius. you are obviously a wimp.

        • Yes, please “take it from” the guy who admits to preying on the weaknesses of women online.  He’s probably trustworthy and balanced.

        • hahahaha so true. however i love me a bushy bird bruv

        • Seriously? He has never tried to contact me. 

        • LOL! Are you for real? This guy above is. I have a boyfriend who doesn’t really care! Yeah a bush isn’t in, but that goes for guys too! That doesn’t mean hairless thankyou very much. If you are animals you will like it hairier 😛

          • Humans come from the ape family. Apes are animals. 
            We all come from the animalia kingdom.

            That being said, we are all different. We prefer different things, which is a good thing. I prefer hairless pussies and my wife shaves for me. What John Doe in Chicago likes may be different. Most men aren’t picky about it at all. If you, Emily experience issues with shaving, then simply don’t shave. A real man with a commitment for a serious relationship won’t leave you if you don’t shave. He will understand you and except it. 
            If you want to pleasure your guy with shaving instead then there are probably some guides around online on how to shave on certain skintypes, or you could ask your doctor.

          • C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!!!

          • *Cough* … I probably should’ve stopped after “I prefer hairless pussies and my wife shaves for me”.

        • well said! couldn’t had said it better myself.

        • Bawahahahaha!!!!  I thought the exact thing.  Should have started his post out with “I am a douchbag” rather than “I am a guy”

      • you are wonderful , I entirely respect you

        • lolz you are a legend, bro.
          also, to OP: stop being so entitled and thinking societal norms don’t apply to you. they do. grow up. yes, this one’s arbitrary, but so are pretty much all of them. if you don’t like it, date a creepy white knight internet stalker like Justanotherday (above), who’ll seemingly flatter you with ultimately misogynistic non sequiturs about how women who shave don’t have personalities or a brain, and men who love them do so for that reason.

        • lolz you are a legend, bro.
          also, to OP: stop being so entitled and thinking societal norms don’t apply to you. they do. grow up. yes, this one’s arbitrary, but so are pretty much all of them. if you don’t like it, date a creepy white knight internet stalker like Justanotherday (above), who’ll seemingly flatter you with ultimately misogynistic non sequiturs about how women who shave don’t have personalities or a brain, and men who love them do so for that reason.

    • I am a guy.  Don’t let the media and shallow guys make you feel anything other than beautiful.  If you do a little research, you will find that for a long time woman had hair and it was (and still is) sexy.  Then companies like Gillette in the US figure out they could double razors sells if they convinced women to shave.  As we can see, through ingenious advertisement, it worked–and continues to work.  I like women with hair. (Groomed of course. Overall good hygiene.)  …and yes.  I am one of those guys the media claims don’t exist.  I want a women with a personality and a brain.  Something the media also claims don’t exist.  Stop watching TV and work on the things that matter and that will last a lifetime.  No one should ever have to feel this way, however, it is nothing personal–it is just business.  

    • Myself, choose to shave. Not because others do, but because I feel cleaner down there when I do. I used to suffer from horrible razor burns, and found that all it took was switching to a different razor (I use Venus) and using a moisturing body soap before and after I shave. I’m not saying that you should do it, because it IS your choice. But if you feel self-conscience about it, try my method.

    • im soooooo with ya

    • I’m too old and ugly to get a real woman now so I just watch a bit of porn now and then but it’s hard to find porn with natural women. They all seem to shave down there which I don’t like at all.

    • You sound just my type of girl.

    • My girlfriend doesn’t shave down south either and to be completely honest, i couldn’t think of something i care less about. It doesn’t smell, it doesn’t harbour germs, its accessable and does what it is supposed to do. All in all, i’m happy with it as long as she feels confortable 🙂

    • Well for me its more about the way it feels, especially if im going down on a girl.

      But as far as surgery goes, I think it is just sick, there was nothing wrong with the girl in the docu.

      P.S. Just trim it, but don’t let it grow into a jungle, that’s a breading ground for bacteria and definitely not sexy.

      • Uhhh….no, more hair does not mean that it is a “breeding ground for bacteria.” That’s actually pubic hair’s function: it keeps bacteria out of the vagina and reduces friction.

        • Yes I don’t see a problem unless you never shower. I personally am not a fan of a full bush that is unkept (like others have stated it gets caught and is just not very comfortable) but HELL NO am I brazilianing myself! I personally don’t like the look. I do think it does like very prepubescent if it is completely bare, and I don’t find that appealing.

        •  aye we have baths and showers where i come from, pubic hair is from the old days with zx spectrums and lisa rodgers.

    • that’s not a nice comment Emily.. sure if a guy loves you he wont care.. but guys that like a shaved vagina are not looking at it the way you are claiming.. at least not myself anyways.. hair is a bacteria trap and it can get pretty musky down there. I also shave mine.. for simular reasons. it’s a matter of taste literly haha.. but I totally understand what you are saying and hope you find a guy that wont mind.. if he loves you he wont.

      cheers

      • “hair is a bacteria trap and it can get pretty musky down there.”
        This may be true, but in the 21st century there should be NO reason not to be clean – no matter how hairy or how bald – period.

        “it’s a matter of taste” HAHAHAHA you said it!

      • yeh… I reckon if he loves you he will mind but he wont say shit!

    • Emily,
      Shaving gives me horrible razor burn, but sometimes I can avoid it somehow. Aloe helps, also shaving with a brand new razor is best. I think waxing would yield the best results though. I’m the kind of guy who shaves his face only once a week, otherwise the razor burn is just terrible, and I refuse to buy more than 3 packs of Mach 3 blades a year. So my skin is also quite sensitive. Some guys like no hair, some guys LOVE hair, but i think almost everyone can agree that trimmed genitals are totally acceptable. I don’t think it is necessary to shave down to bare skin.

    • Emily,
      Shaving gives me horrible razor burn, but sometimes I can avoid it somehow. Aloe helps, also shaving with a brand new razor is best. I think waxing would yield the best results though. I’m the kind of guy who shaves his face only once a week, otherwise the razor burn is just terrible, and I refuse to buy more than 3 packs of Mach 3 blades a year. So my skin is also quite sensitive. Some guys like no hair, some guys LOVE hair, but i think almost everyone can agree that trimmed genitals are totally acceptable. I don’t think it is necessary to shave down to bare skin.

      • that’s so funny, because most of the guys i have been with have wanted me to shave down to bare skin, and most girls I’ve talked to agree that that’s what most guys want….my girl friends and I even considered going to get full bikini waxes together…and i don’t really see the need to trim my hair on my vagina either, i mean it’s perfectly natural…why would it be there if it was bad? I mean i shower everyday or almost everyday so i feel like bacteria growth isn’t going to be a big issue.

        that being said…thank you for the advice and the kind words, all the comments were really nice and helpful.

        • i presume you prefer full-bearded chaps? oh no, wait. i thought you might have thought this through before feeling entitled to tell men what they want. I WANT PIZZA ROLLS.
          (p.s. what is a pizza roll?)

        • i presume you prefer full-bearded chaps? oh no, wait. i thought you might have thought this through before feeling entitled to tell men what they want. I WANT PIZZA ROLLS.
          (p.s. what is a pizza roll?)

        • I agree that you should do what you are comfortable with, I get terrible razor burn so i decided to get regular waxes and am thinking of getting laser done. But thats because i prefer the way it feels not because of what men think. 
          They only problem I have with your comment is you seeing no need to trim just because its perfectly natural. Many things that are natural everyday people change. For example its natural for humans not to wear any clothes at all. Do you wear clothes? If you wear makeup you are changing your natural look. Pluck your eyebrows? Even washing your hair with shampoo is a difference to the natural way. 
          Don’t trim if you don’t want to. But saying it’s because its natural and you shouldn’t change it is hypocritical.

        • I myself prefer a little bit of hair down there, but I keep it trimmed and neat and clean – and have never had complaints or any sort of bad reaction but also have met several guys that have admitted to loving a full blown bush, like a forest down there – so don’t give up just yet!

          Iif you don’t want to shave, then don’t! You’ll find someone who will love you for who you are, not for who society thinks you should be! And that includes your pubic hair 😛

    • Stick to guys (or a guy) that don’t mind

  7. I wish that she would have talked more about waxing and hairless vaginas. because I’ve felt pressure from guys to shave down south, but I get really TERRIBLE razor burn, and not just there, on my armpits and legs too, so i wish she would have talked more about that, i have decided not to shave down south because it physically hurts, and it makes you look prepubescent, which surely says something about guys that dislike hair……i just hope that someday i can find another guy who won’t want me to shave, i think that if he loves me for me, then he won’t have a problem with my hairy pussy.

  8. Why mutilate yourself to fit a standard? I just don’t get the level of insecurity these women are displaying. Who hasn’t been laughed at/ picked on for this and that? Should we run and have surgery every time some fuckwit has something negative to say about our bodies? This is so sad that we’ve come to this. We’re all going to look one way one day: wrinkled.

    This will probably fall on deaf ears to many people but men, ladies…. if someone wants you to go under knife for any reason other than that it will save your life (or at least improve the quality of it) they do NOT love you.

  9. Why mutilate yourself to fit a standard? I just don’t get the level of insecurity these women are displaying. Who hasn’t been laughed at/ picked on for this and that? Should we run and have surgery every time some fuckwit has something negative to say about our bodies? This is so sad that we’ve come to this. We’re all going to look one way one day: wrinkled.

    This will probably fall on deaf ears to many people but men, ladies…. if someone wants you to go under knife for any reason other than that it will save your life (or at least improve the quality of it) they do NOT love you.

  10. Why mutilate yourself to fit a standard? I just don’t get the level of insecurity these women are displaying. Who hasn’t been laughed at/ picked on for this and that? Should we run and have surgery every time some fuckwit has something negative to say about our bodies? This is so sad that we’ve come to this. We’re all going to look one way one day: wrinkled.

    This will probably fall on deaf ears to many people but men, ladies…. if someone wants you to go under knife for any reason other than that it will save your life (or at least improve the quality of it) they do NOT love you.

  11. Why mutilate yourself to fit a standard? I just don’t get the level of insecurity these women are displaying. Who hasn’t been laughed at/ picked on for this and that? Should we run and have surgery every time some fuckwit has something negative to say about our bodies? This is so sad that we’ve come to this. We’re all going to look one way one day: wrinkled.

    This will probably fall on deaf ears to many people but men, ladies…. if someone wants you to go under knife for any reason other than that it will save your life (or at least improve the quality of it) they do NOT love you.

  12. Why mutilate yourself to fit a standard? I just don’t get the level of insecurity these women are displaying. Who hasn’t been laughed at/ picked on for this and that? Should we run and have surgery every time some fuckwit has something negative to say about our bodies? This is so sad that we’ve come to this. We’re all going to look one way one day: wrinkled.

    This will probably fall on deaf ears to many people but men, ladies…. if someone wants you to go under knife for any reason other than that it will save your life (or at least improve the quality of it) they do NOT love you.

  13. She talks about vagina liberation and being proud of what you have, but she doesn’t show her own in the film. She plasters most other featured women’s bits across the screen, but pretty much keeps her’s censored. Pretty odd. Practice what you preach, lady!

  14. She talks about vagina liberation and being proud of what you have, but she doesn’t show her own in the film. She plasters most other featured women’s bits across the screen, but pretty much keeps her’s censored. Pretty odd. Practice what you preach, lady!

  15. She talks about vagina liberation and being proud of what you have, but she doesn’t show her own in the film. She plasters most other featured women’s bits across the screen, but pretty much keeps her’s censored. Pretty odd. Practice what you preach, lady!

    • Excellent point! I didn’t think about it until I read your comment, but for someone trying to make the case that your insecurities don’t matter, she seemed very insecure exposing herself the three times she did in the film all be it not to the camera.

    • She’s making a documentary. She’s a presenter and an actress. She’s not a porn star. Why does anyone need to know what her vagina looks like? You don’t have to show everything you’re proud of to prove you’re proud. She shares her bits with her partner-does anyone really need to see? Those people have volunteered to expose their vaginas. She volunteered to narrate their stories and reflect on what she learned. How ridiculous would it be if in order to prove I was proud of myself I had to expose myself to everyone who wanted to look. Be practical.

      • Buggger this hair business, hairs get tangled in my teeth

      • Cretin. Typical female “logic”.

      • you’re a cretin. are these other women ‘porn stars’? no, wait. you’re a hypocrite and a cretin. well played. think before you post; ‘be practical’.

      • you’re a cretin. are these other women ‘porn stars’? no, wait. you’re a hypocrite and a cretin. well played. think before you post; ‘be practical’.

        • Take a fucking chill pill. 
          Shufflebunny is stating the obvious, the obvious being that the only people generally required to appear naked on screen are porn stars. When someone questions why an actress is not showing her vagina, the only place that kind of criticism would hold up in an argument is in reference to porn.What I don’t see is any reference to the other women in this documentary being porn stars.. did you even finish reading the comment before you started to rage? “Think before you post”..Really?! How about you follow your own advice and stop wasting people’s time with your ignorant psycho babble. “Be practical” and go do something productive.. get rid of all that misplaced hate and go protest with the folks over at Occupy Wall Street, maybe take an anger management class or two..

    • She’s making a documentary. She’s a presenter and an actress. She’s not a porn star. Why does anyone need to know what her vagina looks like? You don’t have to show everything you’re proud of to prove you’re proud. She shares her bits with her partner-does anyone really need to see? Those people have volunteered to expose their vaginas. She volunteered to narrate their stories and reflect on what she learned. How ridiculous would it be if in order to prove I was proud of myself I had to expose myself to everyone who wanted to look. Be practical.

  16. I have pertruding inner labia, I have thought about labia plasty.. I looked at the photos and never thought that the end results looked any better then the pre surgery vulva.. I would rather have my lips naturally stick out a bit then have them scarred and scrunched up… they look like a scrunchie afterwards. However, I have puffy outter lips, so my just tuck in more less, they are not uncomfortable.. sometimes when i wear a bathing suite you can tell that I have a fleshy vagina.. what Jamaican/black men refer to as a “Meaty Poom-Poom” which in that culture is an ASSET! Girls if you think that your vagina is too meaty, maybe your mans penis is too skinny. lol Anyways, everyone is different… if we all looked the same, then men wouldnt find YOU attractive, cause you would look like everyone else,.. you would be a “TYPE” instead of yourself. I LOVE the message of this video.. I will be showing this video to my class, I’m a Child and Youth Counselor for at risk teens and i found this video to be brilliant.
    I dont think that Lisa was “acting” for the camera, maybe a bit.. but I know that this bio made me cry, sick to my stomach, happy.. liberated, sad again… so many emotions, she witnessed it first hand how could she not.

    I do think that the surgery is ridiculous, I still think about it.. BUT I was born this way, I didnt fuck 100 guys to make my pussy look this way and i did not STRETCH my labia, I didnt do any of the things that Ignorant people assume is the reason for this, I was born this way, just like I was born with freckles, i wont bleach my skin, i was born with green eyes, i wont wear blue contacts, I was born with a bit of a flat butt i will not get ass implants.. and YES there ARE psychological issues behind plastic surgery.. of course. Psychological refers to your Psyche … if your brain .. your thoughts are making you feel unhappy, sad, uncomfortable with any part of your body, you can also CHANGE your psyche!! anyways that is all.

  17. I have pertruding inner labia, I have thought about labia plasty.. I looked at the photos and never thought that the end results looked any better then the pre surgery vulva.. I would rather have my lips naturally stick out a bit then have them scarred and scrunched up… they look like a scrunchie afterwards. However, I have puffy outter lips, so my just tuck in more less, they are not uncomfortable.. sometimes when i wear a bathing suite you can tell that I have a fleshy vagina.. what Jamaican/black men refer to as a “Meaty Poom-Poom” which in that culture is an ASSET! Girls if you think that your vagina is too meaty, maybe your mans penis is too skinny. lol Anyways, everyone is different… if we all looked the same, then men wouldnt find YOU attractive, cause you would look like everyone else,.. you would be a “TYPE” instead of yourself. I LOVE the message of this video.. I will be showing this video to my class, I’m a Child and Youth Counselor for at risk teens and i found this video to be brilliant.
    I dont think that Lisa was “acting” for the camera, maybe a bit.. but I know that this bio made me cry, sick to my stomach, happy.. liberated, sad again… so many emotions, she witnessed it first hand how could she not.

    I do think that the surgery is ridiculous, I still think about it.. BUT I was born this way, I didnt fuck 100 guys to make my pussy look this way and i did not STRETCH my labia, I didnt do any of the things that Ignorant people assume is the reason for this, I was born this way, just like I was born with freckles, i wont bleach my skin, i was born with green eyes, i wont wear blue contacts, I was born with a bit of a flat butt i will not get ass implants.. and YES there ARE psychological issues behind plastic surgery.. of course. Psychological refers to your Psyche … if your brain .. your thoughts are making you feel unhappy, sad, uncomfortable with any part of your body, you can also CHANGE your psyche!! anyways that is all.

    • Do Not be ridiculous! You are so right about the scrunchie look. The thing is, everybody has insecurity. And everyone has preference. Some will never admit one, and some will always brutally state one. I found it really interesting how parallel men and women can be as she found the remarks of the painter sexist. I had my fireman’s helmut pierced years back and although it improved my sexual enjoyment, I would never recommend it to anyone. I had no idea it would change sex for me when I decided to do it. It was purely an insecurity of how I perceived women would feel about the boss. I’m still baffled by how I could have felt like that and I’m still really bad at making logical decisions. It’s just who I am everyone has their struggles, but the psyche is funner to play with than any sharp objects. On behalf of any man you may encounter, who may share MY preference, it can be a huge turn on! Don’t go changin! When I was ignorant, I assumed the scrunchie thing was the result of 100 guys (who were more endowed than me, which is the root fear).

    • Noone is born with freckles.

      And i call it a meat-curtain

  18. I’m a man and I’m straight so I’ll just say it this way. While my personal preference is a little neater, I also believe it’s all good in the end. And although I did find the documentary interesting, I feel that if a woman isn’t happy with what she originally given it is her privilege to change it. It happens every day. And if you have a problem with that, grow up and get over it.

  19. I’ve watched this documentary numerous times and while I agree with the message, and the fact that longer labia are completely normal and commonplace, I still think it is a personal decision that should not be met with judgment from either side. I made the decision to go through with labiaplasty because it is something that has always bothered my, both physically and emotionally. It has nothing to do with any outside influence, but with my own personal feelings. I don’t feel that I should be looked down upon for doing something that made me feel infinitely better about myself and has no effect on anybody else. My body, my choice. I also don’t like how it is made to seem that opting for labiaplasty is an indicator of some deep psychological issue and what the girl really needs is to learn to love and accept herself for who she is, because that is just not the case. I have suffered with this issue for years and I have absolutely no regrets. I think making a girl feel bad about choosing to have her labia reduced is just as bad as making a girl feel bad for having overly pronounced labia. It’s no different than any other elective surgery and despite what many people think large labia can be a source of great physical discomfort, and the surgery is not always done for purely cosmetic reasons. If you like your large labia, good for you, but I didn’t like mine and as a grown woman I have the right to make that choice without made to feel like I committed a ghastly error.

    • Excuse me? Sorry, but the girl who had labioplasty had had it done because her sister and friends had laughed at her. If she had looked at her vagina in the mirror and had found it disgusting or uncomfortable, it would have been her decision. But it all came because the girl had no self-esteem. Paying a lot to undergo a painful procedure to cut a healthy bit of your flesh that no one else can see is a mark of having dangerously low-self esteem. I’ve heard that before: “people laughed at me because I was a virgin, I had sex with the first one that came round”. “People called me fat, I became anorexic”. The next big thing will be “People laughed at me because I had two eyes, but I paid 2.000 pounds to take one out and now my self esteem is so much better”.

      Sorry, but that should end. There’s a whole big difference in doing things for yourself (as in, your vagina got loose after a few pregnancies and you want to enjoy sex back), and doing them because your sister laughed at you. That girl made a wrong choice because she couldn’t stand people laughing at her, and that’s just plain wrong. I don’t know why you made your decision, but in the case of the girl in the video, it was a wrong decision because she did it forced by peer pressure, and that should never happen.

      And yes, she had a right to make that choice. But yes, she DID commit a ghastly error, and we must point that out. If you pay a lot to cut a healthy piece of your flesh because you can’t stand jokes, yes, you made a horrible error. I don’t mean you personally, I mean every person who decides to cut pieces of his or her body instead of strengthening their minds and resolve. It is a horrendous situation and I’m sorry if you didn’t like the interviewer pointing out at it, but she was right in doing so.

    • i agree. it irked me how she was all “it was too late for me to save her” in regards to the girl who got the surgery. excuse me, what? it was her choice and it made her happy so i don’t see what the issue is. worry about your own vagina and let other people worry about theirs. i have no problem with spreading the message that there is no such thing as a normal vagina but she takes her fight too far to the point of it being almost condescending.

      • It was her choice and a stupid one. And she would have been happy without the expense, the piece of flesh being cut, and the painful and bloody aftermath of the surgery, if she had known how to laugh at other people’s jokes. She had surgery where no one could see it because she let peer pressure make her unhappy. So, people have a right to destroy their lives for invented problems, but other people have a right to shout out loud that they find it stupid.

        I don’t mean other cases. I mean the exact case in this documentary. “My sister made jokes and the friends made jokes” is NOT a reason to have surgery, period. Is it her choice? Yes. Should everyone respect it? Sorry, no. People should have a personality that allows them to stand jokes without getting so depressed that they need to have pieces of their body cut out to solve it.

        The surgery didn’t make her happy. The surgery removed the unhappiness the taunting caused her, because her mind wasn’t strong enough to endure them. That’s not a good signal. And the surgery wasn’t a good choice.

        • I have to wonder about the context of these jokes. It seems like having a surgery validates their asshole comments and, even worse, furthers the ridicule. And anyway, her snatch was beautiful before the surgery! Her new scruched lips won’t drag on the receding member and there went my biggest turn on.

        • I have to wonder about the context of these jokes. It seems like having a surgery validates their asshole comments and, even worse, furthers the ridicule. And anyway, her snatch was beautiful before the surgery! Her new scruched lips won’t drag on the receding member and there went my biggest turn on.

  20. You two fight like a married couple.

  21. i don’t like the way the film is blaming the media and maybe men for women wanting to do this, even tho i agree that thats the reason. im saying what about women who want guys to have big dicks, and big wallets- wheres the balance in this film. i’m happy with my own equipment, i just read it a lot in agony columns.

    • She didn’t blame men: she asked her male friends and they said what I thought they would: they didn’t give a shit. As long as you’re healthy and clean, the few men who have access to your private parts will love them if only because you gave them access. Men may care for a pretty face or hot body, but about the v-looks? I think most of them don’t give a damn.

    • if I cared about money I wouldn’t be supporting you W, and I love cock just the way it is … it’s those cute flaws that keep a girl interested ….

  22. It struck me a long while ago that this discussion was very silly. The point I was trying to make earlier was that whether you exercise your right to cleave off your labia is a personal decision and if it is predicated on aesthetic reasons so be it. In pornography there does not appear to be any discrimination or unpleasantness about large and/or protruding labia – in fact, if anything, the bigger they are seemingly the better. So i don’t really understand where the pressure on girls is coming from to reduce their labia – not from boys, who you would believe from the stats would be much influenced by the porn they watch! So I wonder how big the issue is really? Has it been blown out of proportion in order to justify the making of a programme which is at its basest voyeuristic and wholly commercial – ie it is meant to sell and make money for the film makers incl. the lovely Lisa.

    This discussion for these reasons is really very silly.

    • Jonny, as a woman i can say you have no idea what you are talking about.  It is a real fear, a real self-hatred that women go through.  I did at one time but no longer. I looked into labiaplasty and boob jobs.  Now I just love and accept myself.

  23. This presenter seems to enjoy the camera…she must of cried 5 times, its all about her.

  24. Wow, fully mature women making a conscious decision to remove their labia (the equivalent of the male scrotum) is such a crazy and unfathomable idea! But the removal of the foreskin (circumcision) which constitutes 2/3s of a males entire nerve endings in the penis (two thirds of sexual pleasure) is a perfectly normal thing!

    Humans, especially the women who complain about this crap, that think the foreskin should be removed purely for aesthetic reasons are the sickest people to walk the earth.

    • Hmm… I think you’re missing the point with the first part, although I do agree people have the right to make these decisions. The issue at hand is there are girls like Rosie who are bullied and psychologically driven to feel abnormal and feel this is the only way to be accepted… even though she is completely normal. I am one of these girls, and I am fighting to find confidence. Right now, I feel empowered. 

       If she had decided to get cut out of personal preference for her to have a smaller labia, it would have been okay. But she clearly was scarred by her experience. Yes, she made the decision and is old enough to… but are we right to ignore the root of her decision? I don’t think it’s unfathomable, it’s just upsetting.  If a documentary like this can help a girl feel more secure and empowered, why not? I liked it.  Who said anything about circumcision?  Most males who were circumcized were done so at a very young age (usually for religious or health reasons) where it can’t be remembered, thus bullying and such means nothing. 

      My heart does go out to the males who have to deal with issues of circumcision and aesthetic insecurities. I wish there was more awareness about that and many other issues.  I can empathize. But why blame and cast a negative light on this focused documentary that certainly has helped many feel better? 

  25. I whip my beef curtains back and forth.

  26. I whip my beef curtains back and forth. I whip my beef curtains back and forth.

  27. I have never seen anything like this. I just wanted to say, that when I was only about 10 or 12 I me and one of my friends were “comparing” and I noticed that my vagina had some excess skin between the lips where my friend’s. It made me self-conscious, I asked my mother (a doctor) if this was normal or if there was something wrong with me. She told me that there was no medical need to remove it, but that if when I was older, it continued to bother me it was my choice whether to remove it or not. Since then, it has always bothered me a little bit. My friend who was there mocked me about it a lot, sometimes publicly. This is a real problem… even for 10year old girls.

    • I feel for you. You have a real tough time. You’re becoming a woman and it’s terrifying and you did the right thing to share your experience as Mom’s find it embarrassing talking about sexuality with their children ~ not to mention the other way around. Hence the answer given by your Mom sounds like it didn’t resolve anything but only deepened your worry.

      As someone who was ridiculed for my clothes, hair, boobs, weight, and finally told by one friend who I worshipped that I was “ugly” and she couldn’t be friends with me any longer I empathize with you sweetheart. You do have a problem. It isn’t your vagina having “excess skin” (some of the most sensitive and important skin on your body – it protects you from bacteria, fungi that causes yeast infection, and when you become sexually active it will enhance the experience for you and your partner ). Your problem is that you are being abused by someone who doesn’t deserve your friendship and suffers from jealousy of you, self-hatred, and is a very sad sad person I deeply pity.

      P.S. I bet you’re shaking your head since that’s what I would have done had I access to the Internet. Thank you for being so brave and courageous to share your experience. Having been ridiculed myself & experiencing total self-loathing I can assure you that it gets better. Much much better.

  28. A couple of comments:
    First, blaming men for driving women to this horrible surgery is crap, as the documentary itself shows so clearly. Early on, Lisa visits her bikini waxer, a woman, and asks since she’s seen so many vaginas, has she ever noticed some are unattractive. The wax-lady answers that she HAS seen some that were quite strange (sorry I don’t remember the exact word she used.) She then added that she had asked her husband and said to him, “Mine is quite pretty, isn’t it.” Lisa Rogers and the waxer shared a girly giggle over that one. I was so surprised at that. Why did I think someone in that line of work might be more accepting of the female body? And not a critical snotty bitch.

    Second, that poor girl who had that awful surgery, which Lisa chose to exploit for it’s shock value, was tormented about the appearance of her vagina by her sister. Her sister.

    Third, Lisa who has a plaster cast of her vagina made but oh-so-coyly doesn’t show us. That’s fine. I really didn’t care to see it, but to claim some right to that privacy while exploiting a girl who CLEARLY has real problems and showing her vagina being mutilated on camera was repulsive and unforgivable. That poor kid. And poor me! I imagine Lisa made the decision to show that horror to educate us stupid people, to shock us into being nicer to each other’s vaginas or something like that, but please. That image was extremely disturbing and I wish, seriously, that I had not seen it. It wasn’t necessary. I just don’t see how showing something like that is going to make anything better. It was demeaning and painful for everyone. Even damaging. The image was so violent and shocking that for some, it may be indelibly associated to thoughts and images related to the vagina. Is that what you meant to do? In your celebration of womanhood?

    At the VERY LEAST you should have warned viewers. People like Lisa Rogers may not believe it, but there are many people, like me for example, who would believe the warning and NOT WATCH that part. I know there are horrors in the world. I do not need images of them all burned into my brain. It’s one of the ways I look after myself. Lest I become a shallow unfeeling exploiter of other’s misery and pain and shredder of dignity. The kind of person who slows down at accidents to get a better look and hopes for blood and disappointed when there isn’t any (though never admitting it) the kind of person who evedrops on couples arguing, you know, an insensitive bitch.

    Besides my dear, a creative person can find ways of showing the horror of something without resorting to such cheap shenanigans. If you are interested in examples I can give them to you, from documentaries and other films.

    I feel better now after writing this. I really hope Ms. Lisa Rogers sees it although I don’t expect her to be moved.

  29. i understand it might be a touchy issue, and nothing against the girl. but the 16 year old with the formally huge vulva in my opinion was right to get it removed. Maybe its my stereotype or the image thats been created as perfect in my head. but that vagina is not it. sometimes maybe, its for the best. .. unfortunately

  30. Cosmetic surgery can be used to enhance appearance and self-esteem. But it can also be used to enhance function. For some women, having enlarged inner genital lips (labia minora) can be functionally or emotionally bothersome. Age, childbirth, hormones, and sexual intercourse can cause enlarged labia, or it can occur naturally. Local irritation and problems with personal hygiene can interfere with sexual intercourse and cause discomfort during other activities like cycling, walking or sitting. Labiaplasty is a cosmetic surgery procedure that offers women a solution.Labiaplasty surgically reshapes or reduces the external appearance of the vagina. This is done to enhance a woman’s vaginal appearance and sexual gratification.

    With the increasing popularity of various cosmetic surgery procedures, including labiaplasty, it is important that the prospective patient research and understand different issues like what the procedure can and cannot treat, inherent risks, costs, and other factors. Keep in mind, cosmetic surgery is just that – a surgical procedure whose results cannot simply be erased.

    Cosmetic surgey performed on the genital area and the reasons predicting its use is as for any other cosmetic surgical procedure. It is a personal choice and should be allowed as such without undue criticism or judgement. Whether for reasons of beautification or improving function, labioplasty is here to stay. Labioplasty for reasons of patriarchal domination and control is an altogether different proposition and should be in discussed in that light. An informative site is: “Vulvar Care. For A Better Vulvovaginal Health”. https://vulvarcare.wordpress.com/

  31. this could have been a GREAT documentary. very interesting subject matter, especially in terms of the larger picture of plastic surgery. but unfortunately, this felt way too self-indulgent. more subject matter, a deeper look at pressure on women historically, and less close ups of the narrator would have gone a looooong way.

    did not buy this as a personal crusade to change women’s minds. instead, more of “aren’t i risque by talking about this subject matter?” and “look how my hair catches the wind while i ruminate on my personal history”.

    • Gert, why do you go do the documentary the way you want to, and allow this author to do it the way she wants to without being bullied about it?  Geez such negative retarded behavior.

  32. I have a lingering doubt about this content, http://newbreastenlargement.com/get-natural-breast-enhancement-without-surgery/ , could you give your thoughts about it? Good document btw!

  33. They all look great with the lights off. =P

  34. Dear Lisa Rogers,

    This isn’t a documentary about YOU. Christ, you you you and your maudlin, self-important, obnoxious presence basically ruin this documentary about a serious and interesting topic.

  35. Made me feel heaps better after seeing this. Glad I watched it, but can’t say it has turned me off the idea of having my bits checked out by a surgeon. My husband says he reckons I’m good as before our children, I don’t know if he’s telling me the truth or just trying not to hurt me. I dont’ feel different inside (which is what I was expected after a few kids) but I reckon after my last child my lips aren’t as neat as they were before. No body tells you how much your body changes after children. I love my kids to bits, but I’ve gotta say, as a woman, I wanna go back to loving my bits too!

    Dunno, women and their self esteem….

  36. Since the labia, both major and minor, are filled with nerve endings and are a large part of women’s sexual pleasure, and visually, too, reading men’s comments here, cutting them off will only descrease sexual pleasure. Also, during sexual intercourse, when they are engorged with blood and swollen, they wrap around the base of the penis increasing the man’s pleasure. Cutting them off only decreases pleasure for both genders.

    • So glad you made that point. Even if it was a visual turn off, it would never be worth risking damage to the very nerves that the enjoyment comes from! That would be like if I was born with an extra finger and I cut it off because I was scared my piano teacher wouldn’t like it.

    • So glad you made that point. Even if it was a visual turn off, it would never be worth risking damage to the very nerves that the enjoyment comes from! That would be like if I was born with an extra finger and I cut it off because I was scared my piano teacher wouldn’t like it.

  37. Woo, Now I’m glad to be one of the generation that had the BIG advantage to feel and enjoy who or what we are and not living with the pressure of a sterile looking sterile thinking world that seems to rushing against everything that is natural. Eventually it all goes down to the difference between those with independent, analytical thinking and the majority of the stupid, Huh.

  38. these are just piss-flapps from homo- erectus ,the procedure was in factpioneered by a London surgeon in victorian England. These procedures were only available to the wealthy who did not need them ,eating p***y is only performed by the low classess,oral sex means fellattio.Women just seem to hate themselves over so much in thes end times.

    • These are just piss-flapps from homo- erectus ,the procedure was in factpioneered by a London surgeon in victorian England. These procedures were only available to the wealthy who did not need them ,eating p***y is only performed by the low classess,oral sex means fellattio.Women just seem to hate themselves over so much in thes end times.

      You sound bitterly disappointed after finding out that this video didn’t involve hot girl-on-girl action involving those unhygienic “piss flaps” of the (it’s okay to spell it…it won’t bite you it’s just a word) p-u-s-s-y.

      To hear women blamed for the world going to Hell after 6,000 years of patriarchy is the reason why the worst thing that ever happened to Christ’s message of Love were people who insist on calling themselves “Christians” … They’re everywhere now, passing off their misogynistic message as Scripture. Had they or you taken the time to read from the Gospels you would be astonished to find little justification for what you know so well. How tiresome to hear the same veiled threat masquerading as piety. How dull.

      Oh: and fellatio is a blow job. For dicks.

  39. Some people just have a distorted image of themselves and try to guess what the others like most and act upon the wrong reasons. It´s like saying men like big breasts. I date one that likes them small and know several that prefer them that way! There isn´t a rule in taste and we often have ideas in our head that are so out of reality. One of the things that´s so incredible in the human body is the differences each persons has. Each part of the body has multiple “configurations”. What´s normal? Variety is normal! Any doubts? Just browse through an erotic photography site like Met-Art and you´ll see each model has a diffente type of fanny. Some are pinkish, others have darker skin, small labia, puffy ones, large hanging lips, you name it! I find some prettier that others, it´s a matter of personal taste but who can say what´s normal or fits the beauty standards?

  40. I love PUSSY! tits and ass also 😀 + bitchez with pretty faces

  41. That was certainly an eye-opener. I used to think I was the only person in the world with an ‘abnormal’ snatch, and because there’s next to no dialogue concerning the topic, I didn’t have anyone to ask about it. It’s becoming more and more important to discuss these things with girls.

    The ten-inch labia discussed there? I could understand reducing those on a functional basis – you basically couldn’t wear a swimsuit.

    The poor girl who got hers razored off ten minutes in? They were gorgeous. I couldn’t believe that…

    • Meggy,

      It’s *10 centimeters* (not inches Luv)…Though the documentary doesn’t mention that someone has to stretch the skin flat, which it never is, in order to measure it. The range is so much as to be meaningless.. Esp. when considering that the labia is of soft, pliant, folded or wrinkled yet always lambent, fascinating, beautiful living flesh. Above all else: Natural (forget “normal” ~ it’s a fiction invented by advertising agencies to relieve you of your hard earned pay)

      We love you for exactly who you are. And it’s those cute little flaws that keep a guy interested and endlessly fascinated. None of us are perfect. Except when we can love ourselves enough to be able to love another….

      I hope any woman whose labia bothers them so much is wise enough to talk with friends, family a therapist in order to discover when and how such ideas first were thought, then obsessed on till they began to interfere in the most important relationship of all: the one with yourself. Why is it so important for you to conform to an idea of beauty that requires you to butcher yourself in the process? And the fact is surgeons have you sign about 8-10 pages of documents to protect themselves from the fact that complications happen. They only happen to one in 2,000 or 5,000 or 10,000 depending on the surgery. But do you like those odds? Because it won’t heal up in 3 months with bleeding despite sutures: instead the tissue necrosis causes a level of shock to a delicate area of the body that already weakens it’s ability to heal, requiring it fight off infections by bacteria, fungi, and so on… And in the worst case scenario the follow-up surgery for a complication on that scale would no longer be elective but mandatory — with a lot more tissue requiring removal in order to save the patient’s life from sepsis (blood poisoning).

      Some day conforming will be viewed properly as the ultimate cop out: It takes no imagination to want to be like Missus A or Missus B (and in the case of vaginas over the past 10 or 20 years this pathological idea of the perfect vagina has come from male-produced and directed old school raunchy porn with no heart and no soul though all the girls do have shaved pussies. I personally prefer my lover to look like a woman and not a child, but then I’m not a perderast. And why all this focus on tits, ass, pussies? Since one learns finally when one loves and is loved unconditionally that the sexiest organ is not any of the obvious candidates. It’s the brain and mind and spirit. I’ve had four significant relationships starting when I was 19 and now that I’m 41 I wouldn’t go back in time for anything. I’m a better, more caring, and conscientious partner and make love with more imagination than I ever could at 21.

      we all grow wrinkly in the end and give up these bodies that are just space suits with a life span of around 80 years, sometimes a hundred…

      If I sound upset it’s not at you but because watching the documentary made me so sad and disgusted with doctors who have no notion of the whole person and chose their speciality to get rich… parasites who prey on the psychology wounded in society. Careerists. Scumbags in Armani suits.

      Thanks to all the women out there: you’re all beautiful

      2 centimeters was the other end of the spectrum, though to every girl reading this I wish you knew how quality men (of which I have the good fortune to be friends with several … real stand-up guys who have never talked trash about a woman…as if she were a lab animal ready to be dissected.

      10 centimeters Or 5, or 2. I would hope that if a man produces a measuring tape it means a deal-breaker. No love for that is a fetish.

      • too much cutting and pasting isn’t good for comments either… to finish the thought about my friends view of women and their bodies: we are worshipful of them – some of us too much. Yet a funny thing happens to most guys as they grow out of their teens and being young dumb and full of come. They begin to feel really ambivalent about dull old predictable porn. The easy availability of porn on-line makes it a rite of passage for 8-10 year-old girls to see the raunchiest sex acts performed by people with plastic bodies and dead eyes

  42. It is just a hype, like all things. In Europa is has not settled in yet. Hopefully never will. What is the point of ‘perfecting’ your snatch, if you are not some porn actress? Seriously, is it just all about we look? And who is going to see our snatch anyway? Just our bf’s and husbands, so what is the point? “Well I am eighty years old, I am wrinkled to the bone, but hey I have got a porn snatch, just like out of the magazines!”

    This should be forbidden, cause it is the cause of insecureness for young women and it mutilates not only their fanny but also their perspect of the world. It is forbidden for religion purposes, but to ‘look’ more attractive it should be condoned? I am not sure what this world is about anymore. And hey jerk-off, isn’t it time you have your balls lifted? They are kinda saggy^^

  43. You girls are crazy!!! to mutilate such a beautiful snatch!? I almost fainted infront of the computer watching the operation CRAZY!!!! I love big juicy pussy lips and think that most other men do as well.
    Its hard to believe how chickenshit women are in terms of standing up to themselves and not falling for the traps of advertising and what you “should” be like. I’ll tell you what is by far sexier that what a womens body looks like, its when she is comfortable with herself, whatever her body is like

  44. I love my fanny, even after the doctor had to cut it to deliver my, now 6 month old son. Its been through the wars though, a fungel infection as well and thrush. Every woman is beautiful in her own way, but its the media that’s clouding our judgment, if your man wants you to get something fixed, well then he truly doesn’t like/love you then does he?

  45. Good point Victor. Everyone should be a dumb ass like you and start fires with rocks to save the world.

  46. Wow and I left the Comic Books to Movies forum because of childishness.Everybody has something so witty to say and they are automatic superstars in their own mind.Everyone is a Psychologist,Psychotherapist, a critic or something special and the world around them is rotting.Don’t get me wrong the world is rotting away but it is because of you internet wizards of oz wanna be’s.Spend a little more time cleaning up your act and your planet and less time polluting it with more garbage.The planet has become a wasteland and that is why you close your eyes to it and make your own little safe dwelling where you are God.What will happen when one day we no longer have these modern wonders.No technology,no electricity.My God someday we won’t have anymore Ipods or Ipads.Oh no what will we do.Can you start a fire with out a blowtorch?

  47. Thanks Rui, I was afraid Amy and I had a bit of a rough patch lately. As she is under the impression that she is a more positive person than me.

  48. Hi … Chris and Amy: I’ll be delightfull to attend your
    very soon marriage.
    I’m sure you two will make a wonderful happy couple.

    Best wishes,
    Rui

  49. Amy, I say this because it’s true. Before you attempt to help anyone else you must help yourself. I do understand that every male you have ever been with has either been a looser like yourself or fucked and dumped you which made you very resentful. You would surely like a good relationship but things don’t work out for you. Hence your need to be so defensive (aggressive). You do whine about your pathetic problems to anyone who would listen but people don’t want to listen to your sad whining. Despite all the counseling and self help books that you’ve read and now try to pass as your own stuff you still remain a lost and narrow minded looser. I see you for what you are, a weak, neurotic, delusional, self-obsessed bitch, not what you are pretending to be.

  50. Chris, dearest, you give new meaning to all the words you use like bitter, hateful and pathetic.

    I’m not the one who has attacked everyone here and I even tried to be nice to you but you’re just too twisted up inside to see that.

    Anyway, its all amusing to me that Chris seems to have parroting disorder. Telling him his thinking is convoluted only results in coming back at me.

    You’re beyond help Chris, unless you open your bitter and vituperative heart. You came here and your opening salvo was an vicious attack on all women whom you accused of being whores and that would be their motivation for getting their grossed out disgusting parts fixed.

    I’m afraid I’ve wasted my time chatting with you so I really must be on my way to someone not so pugilistic as you.

    Have a nice life loser.

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