The Trouble with Atheism is an hour-long documentary on atheism, presented by Rod Liddle. It aired on Channel 4 in December 2006. The documentary focuses on criticizing atheism, as well as science, for its perceived similarities to religion, as well as arrogance and intolerance. The programme includes interviews with a number of prominent scientists, including atheists Richard Dawkins and Peter Atkins and Anglican priest John Polkinghorne. It also includes an interview with Ellen Johnson, the president of American Atheists.
Liddle begins the documentary by surveying common criticisms of religion, and particularly antireligious arguments based on the prevalence of religious violence. He argues that the “very stupid human craving for certainty and justification”, not religion, is to blame for this violence, and that atheism is becoming just as dogmatic as religion.
In order to support his thesis, Liddle presents numerous examples of actions and words by atheists which he argues are direct parallels of religious attitudes. He characterizes Atkins and Dawkins as “fundamentalist atheists” and “evangelists”.
In response to atheistic appeals to science as a superior method for understanding the world than religion, Liddle argues that science itself is akin to religion: “the problem for atheists is that science may not be as far away from religion as you might imagine”.
He describes Fermilab, a U.S. Department of Energy National Laboratory focused on particle physics, as a “temple to science”, and characterizes Charles Darwin’s The Origin of Species as a “sacred text” for atheists.
The only thing this doc seems to get at is the fact that it’s human nature to act similarly about the different things we believe in… or what we believe we don’t believe. Easily compacted into a sentance. I’ve saved you all an hour of your life. (Your one and only life, I believe)
That whole time just to come to the conclusion that the world would be worse off without religion… are you kidding me? That’s not the debate, that’s a whole other debate. p.s. Sweden has the most atheistic population in the world and they’re doing alright.
“the soviet atheism killed 20 million people” hahahaha what?! Sorry, I´ve made it till min 6, cannot took it any longer.
The generalizations made about atheists and atheism in this documentary are truly sickening, almost insulting.
mr LIDL is a fool. If i were a believer and met all those geniouses who had read more than one moldy old book (the bible) i’d actually have stayed and listened some more. Unlike cutting all the “juicy” footage to support my own arrogant view of the world BASED on the moldy old book. This is the biggest and worst flaw of LIDL that carries through the whole mockumentary. Thats what it is, not a documentary – a mocumentary.
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This guy tries to hard to present an argument and fails miserably. I would be ashamed if an Atheist made a documentary and went up to crazy religious people on the street and religious fanatics preaching evil in the name of god. What he does is almost equal on the other end. He shows crazy atheists holding signs in the street with no proper understanding of what their disbelief is and ignorant radical atheist television shows. Anything can look a certain way if you look at it from a certain stand point.
Dear Global Friends,
For a professional people they have their professional code of ethics by NOT exposing their client’s picture in public, like here in this internet video.
The world is going into the extreme in showing other’s people bodily parts through professionalism of unethical or immorality. It is like in the past histories where the native or primitive people did not understand their moral values of shame or disgracefulness by exposing their nude body or bodily parts as a correct culture.
By right they were not able to discover how to cover themselves by making clothings.
So we can’t blame nor comment on them.
But it is different nowadays at this so called “civilised” world of modern space age where more shedding of clothes are seen in public without knowing the moral values of modesty and chastity. There are varieties of fashionable clothings to choose to cover our body decently, but still there are indecent exposures of bare body to show-off in public. So, a high academic education WITHOUT moral education is like no education at all, is just like bubbles in the air, resembling the primitive age of half or full nakedness.
Morality is to be upgraded in one’s attitude rests on one’s freedom of choice.
Increase one’s dignity or lower one’s standard in status ?
Dear
Global Friends…
” Atheists or Religious ”
What ever can be seen
are all illusions and are all temporary real even our
own body. Whatever can be seen where all the proofs and the
truths are being distorted, twisted, abused, misinterpreted and
misled by many immoral people to confuse and complicate the innocent
people to follow their immoral ways or for their selfish gains and
interests.
Whatever cannot be seen are forever the Absolute
Truth. They are IMMUTABLE. They exist before human beings were on
this Earth.
In fact, GOD is in front of us every second. So,
how can one see GOD if one’s mind or knowledge is limited ? A
limited mind or the undeveloped potential capacity of one’s mind is
not fully developed to comprehend the ” Unlimited ” or the
spiritual knowledge.
Mother Nature or GOD as one called,
gives all living and non-living beings, Air, Water, Sunlight, Cosmic
Energies, etc, etc for billions of years free of charge and without
even expect anything in return from human beings. Even everyone’s
ancestors or forefathers need HER generous and priceless necessities,
without which we won’t be here today and talk, discover and invent
any technologies. Without our ancestors we won’t be here on this
website today, as well. So, for those who are stubborn and ignorant,
please shut your nostrils and mouth for a few minutes to see what is
that that cannot be seen. Even non-living things need HIS invisble
blessing, “oxygen” to create a fire.
So, my dear
atheists, please have a heart of generosity to thank the Merciful
Almighty for the blessing in giving you free oxygen to sustain your
daily life or else you need how much to pay for the artificial oxygen
from the commercial greedy “ clever or intelligent ” people so
self-proclaimed. Don’t be too egoistic.Clever people know how
to destroy Mother Nature’s environment but they are unable to replace
back to their original state. This is what is happening to the
various natural disasters occurring, being created by mankind’s
intelligence or cleverness ( stupidity )
1st
type of Atheist…( False or Fake Atheist )
is
one who uses the word blindly or follow blindly,
just as to
protect or make an excuse of oneself for personal gain , egoism ,
fame , power , greedand glamour. It shows that one does not fully
understand about nature
and spiritual knowledge because one’s potential
capacity of one’s mind is less than five percent
developed. So
the human mind of spiritual knowledge of comprehension of God or
demi-gods, or even fairies is very, very,very limited. This is
due to one’s pure-self which is covered
with the past and present sins.This
type of atheist may be a hindrance to societyand may mislead or
cause confusion to the innocent ones.
2nd
type of Atheist…( Secular Law Abiding Atheist )
knows
how to behave positively without going against the law
but have
self-esteemed and is strongly attached to worldly material
things.One may be of curiousity and chasing after
illusive proofs. But one does things fairly and moderately.One’s
emotions are not stable. As stated from a proverb, “ curiousity
kills a cat ”. This type of atheist is arrogrant and at times
one may isolate
from others who are better than oneself or one may
think highly knowledgeable of oneself. Moderately one does one’s
own way.
3rd
type of Atheist…( Moral Practioner Atheist )
knows
how to cultivate one’s inner and outer-self morally and practise
calmness meditation. These two methods are of paramount importance to
oneself because they help to liberate one’s pure-self. One has
no strong desires for these materialistic things. One may isolate
from others,but does not hate, disturb or cause any harm to
others.
One may be in harmony to society and at
times volunteer to help the society. No doubtthat one does not
believe in the existence of GOD, fairies and devils but one does
respect them just like to human beings irrespective of races as
well as to nature.
One does not pollute and contaminate the land,
sea and space.
One is in line with moral values and nature.This
type of atheist is better than those religious persons whose
hearts are empty of love for others and always claim one’s
religion is the most correctand supreme. If one’s thought still
remains with an iorta of
impurity then one is within the realms of samsara,
one of the 31 planes of the “Three Worlds”of reincarnation.
4th
type of
Atheist…( Enlightened Atheist )
A 4th
type of Atheist who has gained one’s
enlightenment in
receiving one’s Universal wisdom of ” spiritual knowledge ”
which supersedes humanknowledge of comprehension requires a basic
condition
to fulfill one’s attainment of this Cosmic
Consciousness through “Morality” and its Natural Way
in calmness meditation as well.
Inorder to
attain this spiritual knowlege one needs to fulfill the conditions
of self purification in one’s body,
mind and soul in practising
daily moral values with a compulsory
in calmness and stable
meditation. They are inseparable.
There must not be a single impurity of
tangible or intangible
issue in one’s thought. It
should be totally
pure to
liberate one’s pure-self
out of the 31 planes of samsara
or the “Three Worlds” of reincarnation. This indeed is a true
and pure moral cultivator who detaches all
worldly desires and can perceive in comprehension of nature
and the world beyond.
Then one becomes a non-atheist.
Whether
one is an atheist, religious, or a non-religious, The Supreme
Almighty still loves all. HE does not discriminate any but is
discriminatedby many. Whether one believes in HIM or not,
HEstill delivers many things for humans, animals.sea-creatures
and plants to survive
through
many millions years until today.
They are air, water, sunlight, cosmic energies,
sea, air and land
creatures, crops, minerals
as well as
many seen or unseen objects.
Only
the ignorant, selfish, egoistic, stubborn,
greedy and deluded humans are disobeying and
destroying what HE has given.
Mankind
can only destroy the environment
but they cannot replace back to
her original state
Please
have a heart of gratitude and Indiscriminate Love
to all living and non-living beings, as
well as to the
Supreme Almighty so as to be classified as a
One Civilised
Humankind. Thank you for the sharing.
_______________________________________________________
Actually, Dawkins is not so dogmatic after all, it seems. In fact, he says in his book, The God Delusion, that on a scale of one to seven (one = there is a god; seven = there’s definitely no god) he says he’d have to be a six. If there’s ever evidence for it then he’ll convert. As would I.
Until then I’ll continue to go for an evidence-based approach to life over a faith-based one every time. That’s not to say that there isn’t a fantastic amount of wonder out there and much to understand and be amazed by. The fact that we’re watching this on a computer right now is a testament to what science can help us achieve.
This film demonstrates some pretty big misunderstandings about our current understanding of evolution. Scientists are not wedded to Darwin’s book – that was just the start of a journey of discovery that could lead humanity into a period of freedom from religious dogma and make-believe. I didn’t see any serious challenge to evolution here either (the usual reductionist theory even raised it’s head inappropriately).
Most scientists (nearly all) are convinced that the mound of evidence for evolution is compelling and once we accept that we can find out the answers to the big questions through scientific process and reason, we can step away from the shackles of superstition and myth. It’s a wonderful place to be.
I don’t usually comment on videos but when I do I it is to warm people for wasting their time. I watched for about 20 mins and had to stop. The doc itself is just poorly made. If you are like me you will watch the vid anyway but you can’t say you weren’t warned.
I made it to 4:47. This isn’t very good. The Perfect Vagina it is.
Reductio ad Hitlerum is no more than guilt by association, a form of association fallacy.[1][2] The fallacy claims that a policy leads to—or is the same as—one advocated or implemented by Adolf Hitler or the Third Reich, and so “proves” that the original policy is undesirable. For example: “Hitler was a vegetarian, so vegetarianism is wrong [because the things Hitler did were wrong, or because it could lead to results ideologically or morally aligned with Hitler].” Used broadly enough, ad Hitlerum can encompass more than one questionable cause fallacy type, by both inverting cause and effect and by linking an alleged cause to wholly unrelated consequences. Hitler was fond of dogs and children, but to argue that affection for dogs and children is wrong on this basis is not logically sound.Various criminals, controversial religious and political figures, regimes, and atrocities other than those caused by Hitler, the Nazis and the Holocaust can be used for the same purposes. For example, a reductio ad Stalinum could assert that atheism is a dangerous philosophy because Stalin was an atheist for most of his life.[3]The fallacious nature of reductio ad Hitlerum is easily illustrated by identifying X as something that Adolf Hitler or his supporters did promote but which is not considered unethical, such as painting, enjoying classical music, or owning dogs.[edit]
The subject at hand is too big for a small internet reply box, so I’ll keep this short.
What you cited can be used in the same way for atheists argument against religion. Because people are Christians, and they murder other people, Christianity is bad. Aside from actually killing somebody in the name of your God, I seem to find that people tend to say God is on their side…post murdering. Specifically I’m talking about war, which this movie mentions atheists believe religion causes. I don’t know of one soldier who kills in the name of their God. Whatever their God is. They believe God is on their side though. Regardless of that fact, they would still go to war. So I think it’s a little unfair to say that all religion does is cause war. There are examples of where it does, and that’s on both sides.
Secondly, to address Darwinism. I think the whole argument against Darwinism is that 1. it’s incomplete, and 2. it’s not evolution that’s so much being argued, it’s the Origin of Species. Meaning to extrapolate how everything in the universe evolves, including the universe itself, from a relatively short amount of study done on a small amount of biological species. is too much of a stretch.
I would also just like to add that I’m not a really religious person. I just don’t know enough to make a judgement either way. I tend to connect with ideas presented in Buddhism the most I find. So I’d much rather believe in placing the responsibilities and moral choices of mankind, in mans hands, and not the supernatural. Ignorance is the cause of all suffering I read. So just as wholeheartdly preaching that God exists and we have to do as he says, certainly has it’s ignorant moments. So to does preaching he doesn’t, and every other way of thinking is factually wrong.
Science isn’t out to prove God doesn’t exist. It’s not written in a theory somewhere. It’s not even on the agenda. Science is after truth. Nothing more. Atheism tends to push an agenda that science is proving God is a delusion, and you’re simpleminded to think anything but.
is it fair to blame atheism for communism
There is a fundamental flaw in Mr Liddle’s logic. Religion and religious fanaticism and fundamentalism has been causing wars, conflict and and death for thousands of years, while atheism, however similar to fundamentalist religion Mr Liddle argues it may be, has never in the history of mankind, caused a war or any significant conflict resulting in minor or mass loss of life.
Any fanaticism and fundamentalism will cause conflict on all levels. People will always have silly ideas, be it claims on supernatural to political ideologies. Rod Liddle is not wrong per say when he says atheism is like a religion. But I do think the word atheism means different things to different people.
Not Believe in God is a Sin that even The devil did not do #justsayin’ …
this documentary is smart only for stupid people
I love your comments guys! If judging purely based on the anger in them, I must conclude that it is indeed an excellent documentary. Such comments, such passion in them, is usually found in the religious right, oh, I guess this was the point of the documentary, now I get it 😉
This documentary is a fucking joke. It is just a shitty journalists approach to discredit scientists by over talking them and careful editing.
I find it frustrating when people say that religion and atheism are the same. As an athiest I know that one cannot definitively say anything about anything, but we can make some determinations about probabilities. I do not know with a hundred percent certainty that the earth was not formed on the back of a gigantic turtle, but all the evidence that we have makes this a vanishingly slim possibility, so I dismiss it. I do not know with a hundred precent certainty that god does not exist, but looking at the claims for god made by religions, and the fact that the scientific method helps us to provide answers for those claims which do not require the supernatural, I can state that the likelihood of god’s existence is slim enough that I dismiss it as a possibility. When atheists say that we do not believe in god, thats what we mean, if someone were to present strong evidence in favour of gods existence, then atheist would be open to changing that evaluation. For example some christians believe in the Rapture, the idea that millions of christians will suddenly be taken up into heaven, before the final battle between good and evil. Now if one morning I awoke to find that millions of people who identified as a fundamentalist christians had suddenly disappeared, without a trace, I for one would seriously rethink my ideas about the existence of the christian god, because that would be some seriously powerful evidence to suggestthat hey maybe they were right!
And when it happens as it will because God cannot lie and He always keeps His promises and you are left behind it may be too late. There are still debates whether there will be people saved during the Tribulation.
I’m sure those debates are riveting and no Doubt dripping with Physical Evidence.
Also note that “The Rapture” is uniquely American Theology, and can’t be read directly from the Bible itself. One has to do quite a bit of mental Gymnastics to tease out (or make-up whole cloth) the concept of the rapture. If one does some research about it, you’ll see that the whole concept is a collection of Random and Disparate quotes STRETCHED to build the idea. The guy who originally ‘teased it out’ (Im tempted to use the “whole cloth” metaphor here) also ‘figured out’ the date that it would happen. Needless to say, there were some very disappointed and very much still ‘earth-bound’ Followers.
I’m sure those debates are riveting and no Doubt dripping with Physical Evidence.
Also note that “The Rapture” is uniquely American Theology, and can’t be read directly from the Bible itself. One has to do quite a bit of mental Gymnastics to tease out (or make-up whole cloth) the concept of the rapture. If one does some research about it, you’ll see that the whole concept is a collection of Random and Disparate quotes STRETCHED to build the idea. The guy who originally ‘teased it out’ (Im tempted to use the “whole cloth” metaphor here) also ‘figured out’ the date that it would happen. Needless to say, there were some very disappointed and very much still ‘earth-bound’ Followers.
hmmm well to be honest this is meant to be confrontational but my issue the immense editting to improve the hosts view point and to hurt the scientists views and for him to make blatent statements with noone to challenge him on it.
also this was made in 2006 there has been many more scientific advances, including the kepler space telescope which drastically discredits devine creation and a universe just for man.
funny china russia, and north korea are atheist countrys
Compared to ‘the thinking atheist’, this documentary is an honest balanced comprehension, without the extreme rhetorical arguments expressed between the ‘for sures’ and the ‘for sure nots’. With that said, only the open minded and the true critical thinkers will get something from this, and is worth checking out. If, however, you are set in stone on either side of the fence, this documentary is likely not for you.
So basically, the problem with atheism is it’s too much like religion… I can live with that.
Hello everyone, I am an atheist that has morals, and I can prove why my morals exist through reason. The idea that religion is necessary for morality is like saying children will only behave if they are told santa clause is watching them. I do agree that atheists are comparable to theists in their nature, however I disagree with the idea that atheism causes as much certainty as theism. Religion essentially says this is the way things are and this is how you should live your life. Atheism uses the certainty that God does not exist in order to open up a vast number of other possibilities and explanations for our universe. Uncertainty, I believe, is essential for the creation of the need to know more. Furthermore, I believe that the need to know more is the most healthy of addictions, and discomfort with our current state is what drives us to advance in our understanding of the universe.
This is so dumb. I’m so disappointed at the closed minded stance this asshole took.
Biggest load of horse shit I have ever heard. Not many atheists I know say anything about the concept of God execept that it does not exist. Now if you want to believe in the supernatural like God, Ghosts, Spirits, Fairies, unicorns you welcome to do so.
Rod provides all the arguments made by the atheists. Such as they depend on the scientific methods (which are subject review and constant improvement), that the scientific ideas are open to review at all times, every conclusion drawn is of a tentative nature. Where as in religion questioning the dogma is hearsey and the concepts are more or less constant. All religious beliefs are just that, beliefs with no evidence. Neither is there a need for evidence.
Obviously science can not answer all the questions and it never will but it has answered many questions. From a practical standpoint we are curious about everything, and it will be nice to know everything but does believing in any religion is going to make humanity better informed about anything.
To my way of thinking folks who want to shift responsibility of discovering everything thing just place that job at the feet of a diety. God knows best etc. Similarly they tend to lay blame for worldly developments on God’s shoulders. Why did so and so die, because it was God’s will.
As for the religions giving humanity a moral code. That moral code first of all is not open to questioning, review and revision at least not as readily as precepts of Ethics. Surely Rod has heard of Ethics, the branch of philosophy dealing how we ought to behave and then there are secular laws to govern our public behaviour. This leaves a small ground not covered by either body where morality is relevant. But even that gap can be filled with a code of conduct derived from reasoning. So we really don’t need the fairy tales of God and code of morality provided by the religion.
I am sorry I wasted an hour watching this documentary.
One of the biggest issues I have here is that there are many different religions, but Dawkins in particular seems to attack Christianity far more than any other religious concept. To me it feels like Dawkins has a personal grudge against Christianity.
He tries to say that science is its own religion because people are so sure or, as he calls them “arrogant” about it but his hypothesis falls flat because science is based on verifiable facts and religion is based on faith.
worst documentary ever
Bullshit. I agree.
7 minutes….Bullshit
Being an Atheist myself, I can say for certain that I do not hate any religion nor despise the people that worship it. In fact, I actually love the the type of self restraint and moderation that certain religious people abide by. I just don’t happen to believe that a god or gods exist. I would never want or even try to put a person down for their belief system as long as it does not persecute people who are not in any way a threat. In other terms, just because you say that you are a christian, jew, muslim or even a zoroastronist, it does not mean that you are a good person or even a real follower of the faith. If I had to choose a belief system, mine would be tolerance and understanding. What’s yours?
Here is the difference between religious and science. The common assumption is the man became so different from the ape because it went off the trees and into the savanna. this is the running man hypothesis (by Darwin). When I first heard about the alternative hypothesis about a month ago (the aquatic ape hypothesis) I Listened with my mind open. I then researched it a lot, and found that there are some good argument about it. I am still not sure what is wrong and what is right, but the fact that I can accept that I am wrong and that the running man hypothesis is wrong Is the proof that atheism is different than religious. No matter how much alternative you will give a religious guy, he will still believe the bible. and ton just that – he will be proud of his non-skepticism way of thinking.
In short – atheism encourage skepticism and pluralism and religious proudly resist it.
P.S. Sorry if I have grammar mistakes. english is not my first language.
This documentary, (what I saw of it) was rubbish with a very clear religious agenda which tries to bash atheists for being critical of religious ideas, ie a circular argument of “I am going to be critical of you because you are critical of someone…”.
Of course it is frustrating for someone who tries to be a rational grown up to see other rational grown ups with real adult life experiences believe in “magic fairies”.
Belief in religion is incongruent for someone educated in the modern world. If you told the stories that are told in a religious context in your normal life & espoused them as being factual, you would be locked up.
I honestly belief that life & society without religion would be an altogether more tolerant & mature one. At the end of the day, any atheist that is an atheist for the right reasons, ie they consider themselves a rational & thinking human being has to come to the conclusion that we are all human.
I have friends who are religious & I do not try & convert them to atheist because they devoutly believe in whichever particular magic pink bunny they happen to believe in. They are probably frustrated with me because the magic pink bunny will exact some sort of retribution because I don’t believe in her.
If I thought it would work, I would try & convert them to atheism if only to save them the time that they waste on religious rites but it would not work so I leave it alone. They are adults. As long as they don’t spout their ignorant religious dogma at my child & they are not hurting anyone else who cares, right?
Should see two fervent believers of different faiths go at though…
I was brought up as a Christian. When I started to grow up & think for myself, (teenage years) I started to realise that the whole belief system & everything it was based on was utterly ridiculous. I am so embarrassed at some of things I used to say to try & save people I cared for from the nasty cook that lived downstairs.
The only reason I have commented on this documentary is in the hope that someone in their more formative years who has been raised in a society which has preached religion at them since they were infants sees it & is prompted to have a good hard rational think about whether what they have been taught makes sense or not & can then just treat other people with respect & dignity because they are people, not because of fear or blind faith.
Sermon over! 😉
I’m curious why a documentary which has received such a low rating and bad reviews stays on the “Most Popular” list. Surely there must be much better docs that deserve the spot. Makes me wonder if this site has an agenda. O.o
This documentary was a good laugh for me. In the end, why can*t we leave it at that? Because religion keeps shoving their silly ideas down our throats every day. Me for one, is sick of it. Also funny how he cuts in the middle of what Richard Dawkins was saying in the end to try to make his own point.
This documentary stenches of bias and cynicism, starting out at the very beginning with “I wonder if Atheism is truly the answer to our prayers”. Documentary/journalism standards seem to have been simply disregarded, yet again shown throughout the entire piece, “Is it religion per se which is to blame, or that very stupid human craving for certainty and justification”. This oxymoronic statement (why is it stupid to seek certain and justification in first place?) is basically a ‘pejorative’ description of atheism. This forces the audience (us) to take sides, establishing a certain polarity between team religion (the good side) versus team atheism (the bad side). At best, Liddle makes us choose between the lesser of two evils, a technique very intertwined with propaganda or its more accepted version we now call public relations.
Rather than brainlessly criticizing an entire system of beliefs, investigate what constitutes this system. Reducing atheism to an absence of belief is unjustifiable – atheists believe in the absence of a God, which is not at all the same as saying they do not believe.
This documentary is merely an oversimplification and is borderline propaganda – watchers should be advised and think critically!
Fuck all this noise what happen´d way way back people are still dying due to thirst,starvation and being used as a slave labor for us high thinkers in the western world.Like i say lets clean house get our self´s in order and once that happens we can start looking at origin of our worlds and compile data, but for our all sake drop this religious debate and look at your slave labor shoes,watches and clothes, if you have a diamond ring odds are that there is at least one murder to get that piece of gold from Africa to your fat little fingers so don´t even play like its there choice its supply and demand.
If we would not demand it then there would be no supply.
I don´t believe in the gods concepts nor in this cold world of direct answers.
I think us non believers should stop trying to swing these bastards and rather show our ideas in work and if we have none then shut it until we have them.
Fuck all this noise what happen´d way way back people are still dying due to thirst,starvation and being used as a slave labor for us high thinkers in the western world.Like i say lets clean house get our self´s in order and once that happens we can start looking at origin of our worlds and compile data, but for our all sake drop this religious debate and look at your slave labor shoes,watches and clothes, if you have a diamond ring odds are that there is at least one murder to get that piece of gold from Africa to your fat little fingers so don´t even play like its there choice its supply and demand.
If we would not demand it then there would be no supply.
I don´t believe in the gods concepts nor in this cold world of direct answers.
I think us non believers should stop trying to swing these bastards and rather show our ideas in work and if we have none then shut it until we have them.
Directed and produced by Ned Flanders.
Directed and produced by Ned Flanders.
The comparisons drawn in this documentary reek of pure subjectivity and rhetoric and nothing more. I don’t think this is a very professional job.
great documentary, very interesting
great documentary, very interesting
I cant help but notice that ppl that do not believe in any god llok like Crap!
* sorry that is “Look like Crap”
* sorry that is “Look like Crap”
A narrative of one guys perspective is NOT a documentary. A real documentary shouldn’t editorialize nearly as much as this guy does;
10 minutes in and we already have several hasty generalizations about Atheists, backed by not even a SINGLE example. Then show a guy’s response to one question and label him a nut, because he is carrying a sign? Make claims like “Atheists are active believers in nothing”? Use the soviet union as an example for Atheism promoting violence?The idiot makes states his opinions a hundred times but can’t even manage to find a damn video clip or interview to back them up.And what the fuck was that fermilab shit? He takes us to the location one of the greatest technological feats of our time and calls it a “temple”, then says that “choosing between the big bang and a creator is choosing between two things of which there is no scientific proof.” You have got to be fucking kidding me. Did he get paid to make this piece of shit?
Religion is the cause of EVERY war the Pope was the head guy for saving pedophile priests. gee I wonder why he got the job? Absolute power corrupts Absolutely
Obviously the documentary maker is a religious man. Fair enough. What I don’t agree with is the way he misrepresents the scientific facts that have led many people to become atheists. If he is going to make a documentary on the problems of atheism he could at least present all the facts associated with this.