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Can We Get Married?

Like many couples who have been together for six years and are in their late twenties, Emma Bishop and Ben Marshall are thinking of getting married. But for them, it is not entirely straightforward.

Emma and Ben both have Down’s syndrome and are residents of a supported-living community in Devon, where they have an active social life and part-time jobs. They live in a small house with their friend Cy Clench, who also has Down’s syndrome. If Emma and Ben were to get married, it could mean a completely different way of living.

Through the high spirits of their dance nights to the tired conversations at the end of their working days, this film follows Emma and Ben as they decide whether married life would be an enormous stress they could do without, or the romantic dream they always imagined.

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  1. i think Emma and Ben have the right to get married if they want to it doesn’t matter that they have a learning disability thry can still make theu’re own decisions

  2. I used to know a girl whose parents were in some way associated with a Down’s Syndrome hospice/care home. She said the common practice was to keep the women on birth control the whole time since they would have sex and get pregnant. This is in the UK in the 90’s, so I don’t know if practices have changed, but that’s apparently what they used to do. Would the child of Down’s parents automatically have Down’s? IDK. As to whether it should be allowed, I think that with many of these things there is a scale of the abilities of the individuals concerned. So perhaps some would make better parents than others. Generally speaking, perhaps it is not the best idea for people with Down’s to become parents, since they would require even more support to raise the family. As a society we are constantly told there is no money for xy&z, so maybe this shouldn’t be encouraged. However, we should be careful about making sweeping, one line statements, about the rights of others. Down’s women can get pregnant, so it may not be societies choice if they become parents. We have to consider how Down’s people act when it comes to sex, and protect those who are not able to make their own informed decisions, as we would people with any other disability, but saying there should be a blanket ban, especially if you are not at all aware of the issues, or indeed even know any Down’s people, is a little distasteful to me. Another question that would be interesting to discuss is whether a non-Down’s person can have sex with a Down’s person. Can the person with Down’s give consent? Again IDK, but it is an interesting discussion topic. I have met some Down’s people over the years, and my limited experience is that some suffer worse with the condition than others. What should be remembered is they are human beings who are entitled to love and be loved. Just my 2 cents worth anyway. Best wishes, Lee

  3. Link doesn’t work anymore..

  4. NO…i dont think they should be allowed to breed.

  5. Actually it is scientifically proven that most Down’s Syndrome men are infertile anyway.

  6. i cant wait to watch this, i think it could help other people look at the idea of marriage themselves, and maybe even learn a thing or two. it sounds like this couple will really step back at look at the pros and cons..unlike alot of “normal?” people who jump into it without thinking…REALLY thinking. atleast thats what im hoping for! i read some of the comments but they sure were boing..you guys are just taking eachother in loops, cmon now! move forward!

  7. wheelbarrow race anyone?

    “My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard and there like its better than yall’s damb right its better than yours i can teach you but i have to charge”

  8. hahahaha did that really happen? all the previous comments were pretty funny to read, especially knowing that everyone poured so much time into wasting their time. you people need to get out more.

  9. I don’t understand why people would watch this documentary, simply to make fun of the people in it. 

  10. Those two seemed like better couples then many I’ve seen… They communicate, talk about their feelings and unabashedly care for one another. Shame on their parents for manipulating them out of it.

  11.  I think this couple communicates better than a majority of other couples with down syndrome or not. 

  12. They are so good at communicating with each other…it’s admirable.

  13. Lordy this is a vile comment thread.

    Swap out ‘tard for nigger. Or jewboy or sandnigger or faggot or breeder or cracker or whatever epithet you’ve got on hand. How about your particular ethnicity, social position, sexual preference and pyschological profile? I’m very sure there’s a term of derision for it. I’m also sure that for the non-niche descriptors there’s a pitiable history of discrimination on marriage laws and practices.

  14. took me a minute but i found a way to fap to this

  15. VCX QUOTE “It’s not illegal to saythatyouwill experiment on people legally.Do younot udnerstandthatmedical trials andstudies are conducted all the time?  Do younot alreadyknow there is a prenatal testfor down’s syndrome?  What if I justreally like to give thattest?You’refuckin bonkers”

    VCX QUOTE: “anyway you’re right.  you have “seen my kind before”.  i don’t want to make anything better. I only want to fucking torture and kill all the freaks and retards that i can.  you can psychoanalyze why, but I just want to. I have loved and looked up to Dr. Mengele literally since I was a boy of 8 or 9.  So I’m going to live my childhood dream one way or another.  Legally, I will find a why. Testing drugs on volunteers, whatever it takes… I’m going to torture these rotten little shits all i can, just because I hate life.”

    I remember now why I loved replying to you. You are so easy to expose 😉 That little speech right there? That is illegal in most countries, including the US. No, I dont mean DOING it. SAYING it is illegal. I also remember why I got bored with it – owning you is too easy.

    Peace, my nutty little friend.

    • Dude…. come on.  I could easily be someone from that crazy family that boycotts military funerals and says America deserved 9/11 because of gay people.

      They’ve said waaay worse.

  16. We have the oldest children that ever existed. Stop commenting, nobody cares about your opinion. Your opinion means nothing. This isnt youtube. Nobody gives a shit who you are or what you say.

  17. We have the oldest children that ever existed. Stop commenting, nobody cares about your opinion. Your opinion means nothing. This isnt youtube. Nobody gives a shit who you are or what you say.

  18. We have the oldest children that ever existed. Stop commenting, nobody cares about your opinion. Your opinion means nothing. This isnt youtube. Nobody gives a shit who you are or what you say.

  19. Ain’t love Grand? Whether it is between a man and a woman, a mother and a child, or between a sister and a brother..love is all around us…and it’s lovely to see that  love exists everywhere..and everybody deserves to be loved! =]

  20. VCX has gone rather quiet 😉

    And I know why 😉

  21. VCX has gone rather quiet 😉

    And I know why 😉

  22. vcx can’t seem to get over himself, can he? He seems to have a real superiority complex. I feel sorry for him. 

    • He should be absent for a while now.

    • He should be absent for a while now.

      • I’ve been arrested and am posting from jail, because I upset Psinet on the internet?

        • If NAND Gate did report you, you can be guaranteed they have listed you. What you said is disgusting.

          And I don’t believe for a second you were “just trolling”. Any sane person can tell you are dangerous, whether you claim to be “joking” or not.

        • If NAND Gate did report you, you can be guaranteed they have listed you. What you said is disgusting.

          And I don’t believe for a second you were “just trolling”. Any sane person can tell you are dangerous, whether you claim to be “joking” or not.

          • So you think that any disgusting comment is illegal, or is something that the FBI really gives a shit about. Have you been on the internet before?  Do you not know what people say all the time? LOL

            I just took a shit, came in it, then I ate it.  I puked it on my own mother and we snowballed my diarrhea-sperm-combo as I fucked her.
            Report that to the FBI too??  Really… what is wrong with you people.

          • VCX QUOTE “It’s not illegal to saythatyouwill experiment on people legally.Do younot udnerstandthatmedical trials andstudies are conducted all the time?  Do younot alreadyknow there is a prenatal testfor down’s syndrome?  What if I justreally like to give thattest?You’refuckin bonkers”

            VCX QUOTE: “anyway you’re right.  you have “seen my kind before”.  i don’t want to make anything better. I only want to fucking torture and kill all the freaks and retards that i can.  you can psychoanalyze why, but I just want to. I have loved and looked up to Dr. Mengele literally since I was a boy of 8 or 9.  So I’m going to live my childhood dream one way or another.  Legally, I will find a why. Testing drugs on volunteers, whatever it takes… I’m going to torture these rotten little shits all i can, just because I hate life.”

            I remember now why I loved replying to you. You are so easy to expose 😉 That little speech right there? That is illegal in most countries, including the US. No, I dont mean DOING it. SAYING it is illegal.

          • Dude… which part is illegal?

            There’s nothing illegal about being a sadist, and there’s nothing illegal about experimenting on human beings who volunteer.
            This is imaginary anyway because I’m fucking trolling you, it just is completely insane to me that you reacted SO HARD.  That’s part of the reason I kept replying and upping the ante… I’ve never seen someone as fanatically boring as you, lol 😛

          • So you think that any disgusting comment is illegal, or is something that the FBI really gives a shit about. Have you been on the internet before?  Do you not know what people say all the time? LOL

            I just took a shit, came in it, then I ate it.  I puked it on my own mother and we snowballed my diarrhea-sperm-combo as I fucked her.
            Report that to the FBI too??  Really… what is wrong with you people.

        • Seems lots of people comment on you. Am I the only one you respond to, because I am the only one that got to you and made you think twice? 😉

        • Seems lots of people comment on you. Am I the only one you respond to, because I am the only one that got to you and made you think twice? 😉

        • Hey there. Been raped yet?

        • Hey there. Been raped yet?

          • Ummm wow,,,,,,,

            You’re the only person on this site to flip out so hard when I posted a joking incendiary comment…. 

            get some therapy dude… let it go… not everyone you hate has bad things happen tothem

          • You are an awesome comedian. What happened to all the over-the-top hate speech and declarations that
            you intend to murder and torture innocents? That stuff made you so cool
            and tough to pretty much everyone. Are you being supervised or
            something?

          • I don’t hate anyone….  I already told you I was joking, in-character, and you ask me “where the hate-filled speech went”.

            Do you not get it?  I wasn’t serious.  You’re so obtuse.  I even said, “please hate more, ooh I worship the devilllll, 666” and you STILL DIDN’T GET IT.SORRY that you hate “KIDS LIKE ME”.   I wasn’t being “cool or tough”, get a clue you hypocrite.

            You tell peopel that I’m a “POLICE MATTER” you tell me I’m “ON THE LIST” and talk about people like me dying and being “FIRST TO GO”.

            YOU’RE the one who hates life.  You’re fucking pathetic dude, it was a joke, and you’re pathetic for taking it so seriously.My posts were just like Borat’s character – yeah he said some inflammatory things, but really he just showed the ugliness in the people around him.. ugly people like you.

          • It’s fitting this is your last response… after all your time calling me a “lightweight” and whatnot…

            hoisted by your own petard… gtfo faggot piece of shit

          • Where did you go angry extermination boy?

          • Did you want to be trolled more or something?  Did you miss the part where you were freaking out, talking about reporting people who have different views than you, all over a joke?

            Ha 😛  Get a grip man

          • Yeah for sure bro! Why not? Not sure about the freaking out bit though – clearly I am back for more 😉 You need to re-read man. I think it was you screaming you were gunna kill and torture etc rofl. I didnt just talk about it dude – I did report you – to the FBI. Thats what good people do when they witness people claiming they will commit inhuman crimes on innocents. Its not a personal thing. Its a legal thing 😉

          • It’s not illegal to saythatyouwill experiment on people legally.Do younot udnerstandthatmedical trials andstudies are conducted all the time?  Do younot alreadyknow there is a prenatal testfor down’s syndrome?  What if I justreally like to give thattest?

            You’refuckin bonkers

          • It’s not illegal to saythatyouwill experiment on people legally.Do younot udnerstandthatmedical trials andstudies are conducted all the time?  Do younot alreadyknow there is a prenatal testfor down’s syndrome?  What if I justreally like to give thattest?

            You’refuckin bonkers

          • My last comment? Sorry to shatter your childish dream. Ooh and homosexuals are bad as well? Awesome – loving how you expose yourself.

            You change what you say depending on who and how you are challenged – this is the definition of a lightweight. You will notice my stance has never altered.

            Lightweight. It is embarrassingly easy to cast you in the light you deserve. Have you ever even got a “like” here? I think just on this page I am approaching 20. Maybe you should ponder that. You are no evil genius. You are a twisted, demented shadow of a human being.

        • Hey there. Been raped yet?

  23. vcx can’t seem to get over himself, can he? He seems to have a real superiority complex. I feel sorry for him. 

  24. they look a lot happier and more real with each other than any couple I’ve seen.

  25. they look a lot happier and more real with each other than any couple I’ve seen.

  26. 2 wonderful human beings!!!! their love is nothing short of “Beautiful”

  27. you know….for having down syndrome, it’s really kinda impressive how good of a couple these two are…

  28. you know….for having down syndrome, it’s really kinda impressive how good of a couple these two are…

  29. Where has peoples compassion gone?

  30. What a cool doco. I can’t believe some of the comments people are writing here, makes me sick to live in a world where people can be so cruel.
    Learn from Emma and Ben, work with what you are born with, enjoy life, be happy and be loved.

  31. What a cool doco. I can’t believe some of the comments people are writing here, makes me sick to live in a world where people can be so cruel.
    Learn from Emma and Ben, work with what you are born with, enjoy life, be happy and be loved.

  32. Come on everyone..

  33. NOOO…I am so disappointed!

    Emma really reminds me of my sister but she is more lucky, Emma I mean.

    My sister has had a few boyfriends but the longest love-story, which is now over, lasted three years.

    Once left the communitycenter, because she found a part-time job, she is not meeting any boys like her.

    My dream for her is to find a good boy, as Ben may be, and get married to him.

    I don’t want to see my sister single. She is clever, mature and
    responsible. I don’t want her to spend her entire life humoring my
    mother’s ideas (a wonderful mother though).

    I really don’t understand why after six years their parents can not
    bless their wedding. How many times in their only life they’ll find
    someone to love???

  34. i would fuk that retard chicks tight pussy til she could see straight and talk clearly

  35. I LIEK MICKY MOUD, HE MY FAVRID

  36. retards have no value

    • So what you’re saying is that human beings, whether they may not mentally excel in certain areas, have no values. These two individuals have something that someone like yourself will never find. It’s called love. They have found someone that they get along with and makes them happy yet you try to take that away from them with a snide comment on how they are nothing, worthless, how they have no value? Why even watch this documentary if you are going to comment negatively? I bet you watched this to laugh at it. You’re a disgusting individual. Burn in hell.

    • So what you’re saying is that human beings, whether they may not mentally excel in certain areas, have no values. These two individuals have something that someone like yourself will never find. It’s called love. They have found someone that they get along with and makes them happy yet you try to take that away from them with a snide comment on how they are nothing, worthless, how they have no value? Why even watch this documentary if you are going to comment negatively? I bet you watched this to laugh at it. You’re a disgusting individual. Burn in hell.

  37. Just watched one of those Star Trek TNG episodes that was basically a philosophical debate acted out through sci-fi (my favorite eps.).  It was the one where all the inhabitants of a planet were designer babies, all born without imperfection.  Society was so perfect that they never really invented anything great because they never had any problems that called for inventive solutions.
    They had become an intellectually stagnant culture.

  38. My favorite part about the comments below, is how the people who would be put first in line, by a democratic eugenics program, are the actual people calling for eugenics.

    If we do implement eugenics, a general vote would prove that the public desire is to put the people calling for eugenics at the start of the line.

    • you are awesome 🙂

    • That doesn’t matter you selfish shithead.

      If you would stand in the way of human development as a species just because of your own attachment to your first-person consciousness, fuck you!  You deserve to die.

      No one who knows that eugenics is extremely important to advance would get in its way.  And a “democratic eugenics” program makes no fucking sense.

      You don’t have these mongoloids and their babysitters (like you) decide.  You have a panel of experts and relevant professionals.

      Honestly, your moral outrage is straight out of the box.  Wisen up and calm your ass down, teenager.

  39. They are happy together if they want to get married let them be, they look in love. But… about the children… it doesnt sound like a good idea. 

  40. They are happy together if they want to get married let them be, they look in love. But… about the children… it doesnt sound like a good idea. 

  41. I always wondered who the hell was watchingthose dance shows.

  42. Very enmeshed but I suppose this is as good as it gets for these folks, I don’t see an issue with them getting married, however a snip-snip would definitely be required, marriage or not.

  43. No, they shouldn’t have kids simple. Nor adopt. Hell not even a puppy or a cactus.
    If so called mentally normal people can’t look after their kids. I’m sure as hell not paying my tax money to support there kids. I can’t bear to understand what it is like to live like they do. And I know they didn’t choose to be like that. But they’re making a choice to whether their child will or won’t.
    Any one disagree with me? Well let them look after your kid alone for a month. before you fucking reply that I’m a heartless wanker.
    I’m a realist, I say it how I see it. The world shouldn’t be run by those fake prats in DC or downing street. Those who fluffy coat and tell you what you want to hear.
    It should be run by people. Who make tough decisions based on fact. And not fucking feelings.

    • Its such a terrible shame your parents made the mistake of not wrapping it up.  I guess they are proof that mentally disabled should not reproduce, then, seeing as how they created such a perfect example of wasted life.

    • You know nothing about fact, science or evolution.

      • God you’re so emotional it’s almost impossible to read.

        You didn’t actually respond to anything that he said, you just tried to be insulting.  This is pathetic, moderators should be removing your 0-content posts. 

        Pyjoop said:
        “Let them look after your kid alone for a month, before you fucking reply that I’m a heartless wanker.”

        WELL SAID.
        Got a response to that Psinet?  Would you give your kids to a couple of Downies?

        • My response is: I have the most popular comment in this thread.

        • My response is: I have the most popular comment in this thread.

          • It doesnt count if you give them all to yourself, that just proves your the biggest fucken loser to ever use the internet, dont bother replying i wont be back to check unlike you.

          • Replying replying nyeh nyeh nyeh

            Whatever asshat

        • i would if I knew them as well as a friend. Many are very vigilant and care even more about others than most of society, they want to do the right thing and make others smile. If i needed a baby sitter and it was in between this couple with down syndrome or two 18 year olds.. Id choose this couple EASILY.

          As someone who works with PEOPLE, HUMAN BEINGS with mental disabilities and/or physical, people really don’t give them a chance on what they can achieve, no I don’t think they should have children due to the implications it too would have Down’s, but adoption shouldn’t be out the question either. I know they would do nothing but love that child and do whatever is needed to make sure its happy and healthy. Unlike some teen Moms now who go out drinking on weekends and leave their baby to their parents .. they don’t care. But of course you wouldn’t bat an eye lash at young parents..and what about working Moms who leave their kid to some strangers with no qualification while they just earn money, they let strangers raise their child? Who may have little to know idea what they are doing.. Not saying *all* are like this but honestly, Down’s are by far from being bad parents or members of society. They are capable humans.

        • i would if I knew them as well as a friend. Many are very vigilant and care even more about others than most of society, they want to do the right thing and make others smile. If i needed a baby sitter and it was in between this couple with down syndrome or two 18 year olds.. Id choose this couple EASILY.

          As someone who works with PEOPLE, HUMAN BEINGS with mental disabilities and/or physical, people really don’t give them a chance on what they can achieve, no I don’t think they should have children due to the implications it too would have Down’s, but adoption shouldn’t be out the question either. I know they would do nothing but love that child and do whatever is needed to make sure its happy and healthy. Unlike some teen Moms now who go out drinking on weekends and leave their baby to their parents .. they don’t care. But of course you wouldn’t bat an eye lash at young parents..and what about working Moms who leave their kid to some strangers with no qualification while they just earn money, they let strangers raise their child? Who may have little to know idea what they are doing.. Not saying *all* are like this but honestly, Down’s are by far from being bad parents or members of society. They are capable humans.

          • You are a rational and insightful human being, free from the wrinkled, shrivelling and ugly psychology of these xenophobes. I would take great pleasure in comparing their DNA to a chimpanzee, in their presence.

            Good luck to you.

          • You are a rational and insightful human being, free from the wrinkled, shrivelling and ugly psychology of these xenophobes. I would take great pleasure in comparing their DNA to a chimpanzee, in their presence.

            Good luck to you.

          • A Chimpanzee’s DNA is only about 1% different from a humans. 

          • Lol yes that is my point. These angry people with their hatred for the individuals in this documentary would like to believe that these people are not human – and I would like to show them how close a chimpanzee is to being human. We all deserve respect, and we all have a right to life.

          • You guys are talking about 1% of a Genome as though that’s some small amount of information…. wow….

          • hehe expert here knows all about evolution and genetics. Thats why he thinks eugenics is a good idea. He could do a better job 😉

          • PS. You still said that 1% of a genome is a small amount of information…. so…

          • Umm… I don’t really care about “likes” because I don’t base my entire life around this documentary.

            Holy shit dude.

            I was trolling like every doc that came out that week, you’re the only one who had a fucking seizure over it.

          • lol seizure. I wonder if you were threatening to kill and torture innocents in those comments, and described your method and motive? Repeatedly. Its not called being clever, bro. Either you are a wannabe doctor intending to kill people, or you are a pathetic lying psychopath. Either way I dont care – no one does. The way to deal with you is the same which ever way.

          • lol seizure. I wonder if you were threatening to kill and torture innocents in those comments, and described your method and motive? Repeatedly. Its not called being clever, bro. Either you are a wannabe doctor intending to kill people, or you are a pathetic lying psychopath. Either way I dont care – no one does. The way to deal with you is the same which ever way.

          • in 30 years we wont have retards anymore, so enjoy it

          • in 30 years we wont have retards anymore, so enjoy it

          • Lets just hope you don’t breed!!!!! They have a mental disability…it is you who is retarded!

          • That is vcx

          • That is vcx

          • Lets just hope you don’t breed!!!!! They have a mental disability…it is you who is retarded!

  44. My god you commenters are more fucking retarded than the subjects.

  45. I now pronounce you hurr and durr.

  46. This so sick and disgusting.  These poor people shouldn’t be forced to be alive in their ugly, mentally retarded state.

    We need a serious eugenics program worldwide. NOW.

    • I agree with vcx. Unfortunately, a Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities,
      Article 2, says that disabled persons cannot be sterilized, and can have as many children as they wish. Article 29 says that disabled persons have the right to vote. (It really means that idiots and imbeciles have the right to vote.) The convention has 149 signatories (countries). The Convention is perfect illustration how stupid our politicians are.

      • There is a typo in my post. The Article 23 (not 2) says that disabled persons cannot be sterilized, and can have as many children as they wish. The same article says that they have the right to adopt children.

    • You fucking intellectual retard. I will ensure you are first in line for your injection.

      Your shitty English and ugly, bigoted attitude are less human than them, and you should be wiped out. You are sick and disgusting, and you should at least be sterilised.

      • Ah yes of course. “vcx” from documentaryheaven is on The List.  lol.   My boys can swim, thanks.  And might I guess that you have someone with Down’s Syndrome in your family?  Is that why you’re taking this so personally?

        It’s understandable then that you would react so emotionally and impulsively, after all if you are close to someone with Down’s then odds are you have some profound genetic mutations as well.
        It’s all well and good, as it happens I am against human suffering, I am against exploitation of freaks and retards, I want to see it all gone, forever.  I don’t want to see more babies born with tongues too big to for their mouths, and eyes too far apart.  I love humanity and I love a life well lived.

        It is true, as PolkaDot pointed out, that people who are disabled have rights.  Good! If they have legal rights, then they should be protected.  I am only saying that we should take away those legal rights, and then solve the problem once and for all.

        God bless.

        • God bless? now that is funny!!!!!!

        • God bless? now that is funny!!!!!!

        • Um, if you really wanted to not have any more “freaks and retards” in the world, go after the perfectly average and healthy people that keep giving birth to them. 

        • Um, if you really wanted to not have any more “freaks and retards” in the world, go after the perfectly average and healthy people that keep giving birth to them. 

        • Seems your comments are getting removed, bruz.

        • Seems your comments are getting removed, bruz.

        • Why doesn’t anybody like you? I am finding you a total riot!

          • Your comments are like 70% of the comments on this page… what is your personal connection to down’s syndrome?  You say you have no family, so are you dating a mongo or what?

          • Seems they are a very small percentage. Not only is medicine not your strong suit, neither is maths.

          • Seems they are a very small percentage. Not only is medicine not your strong suit, neither is maths.

          • No. You see, I have something you lack – compassion. It makes you empathise with others and so on – but unfortunately sociopaths miss out on it.

            I have never personally known a….”mongo”……as you refer to them…….but you see, what I know is that even a small child has a vivid, inner life. I remember something of mine. I was certainly not the intellectual monolith you see before you today. I was a small boy – full of strange ideas and fantasies, unhinged by anything as bothersome as physics or reality. I didn’t know what love was, and even my immune system was pretty dicky. I even had a small penis.

            But today, I am the teacher, giving the sociopath a lesson in reality. You know nothing about the inner life of human beings, and you have no place deciding who or what gets snuffed out. And what’s more, there are those of us who watch tirelessly for the return of your kind – because we know you will come again. And you have always, always been stopped.

            But thanks for playing.

        • Why doesn’t anybody like you? I am finding you a total riot!

        • Hey, most males with down’s syndrome are sterile, and 2 percent of down’s syndrome cases are genetic….sooooooooooooo what does genetics have to do with it?

          • I actually answered this question in a really nice way, and talked about possible ways to solve it, and it was removed for no reason.

            So I guess the mods don’t like civil discussion?  They prefer 15 year old Psinet’s trolling?

          • And he wants to be a doctor BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

          • And he wants to be a doctor BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

          • That’s a great question!  Thanks for bringing it up.

            In my view, we need to have nanotechnology added to our DNA for many reasons, but one is for extra proofreading of the code. I have no specific mechanism worked out, but it is not hard to conceive of nano-robots cleaving a bond or two and healing the mutation.

            What about taking a child who has been conceived with Down’s syndrome, cloning that zygote and in the process destroying the mutation?  The original retarded zygote is aborted, and the same child is born healthy.

             Until then I think it is also important to have earlier detection of mutations, and subsidized or mandated abortions for these mutants.

        • I have no family, you ranting megalomaniac.

          You are a psychological backwater of devolution.

          I notice no one likes you…..?

          You will be first in line, bro.

          • Hey moderators, how come I can’t say that I want to see less human suffering in the world, and Psinet can say that he’s going to kill me?

            Oh, because you moderators and Psinet are all hypocrites 🙂  Because you do not use rationality and empathy as bases for reason, but just empty, surface-level emotion.  

            You react like reptiles with your amygdala dominating all else.

          • Hey moderators, how come I can’t say that I want to see less human suffering in the world, and Psinet can say that he’s going to kill me?

            Oh, because you moderators and Psinet are all hypocrites 🙂  Because you do not use rationality and empathy as bases for reason, but just empty, surface-level emotion.  

            You react like reptiles with your amygdala dominating all else.

          • Pretty sure that it isn’t me calling for eugenics – I am just suggesting that if we do, you should go first. So it is you threatening your own life 😉

          • Because this isn’t a democracy. What you don’t understand is that your kind have come before and you are well recognised. You think you are some kind of prophet sent to remove suffering from the masses. But we all know – by instinct – what your kind really is. Your kind – the ones calling for eugenics programs to “rid us” of the weak – have always ended up being exposed for the weak stomached, puritanical cowards that they really are. You are ignorant of two things: the science behind evolution, and the value of every human being.

          • it doens’t matter.

            you should know that the popularity of your comments has nothing to do with their validity.  you said yourself it’s “not a democracy” in the points we’re making.

            wouldn’t you expect someone who is arguing that the majority of people are awesome to be popular?

            anyway you’re right.  you have “seen my kind before”.  i don’t want to make anything better. I only want to fucking torture and kill all the freaks and retards that i can.  you can psychoanalyze why, but I just want to.

            I have loved and looked up to Dr. Mengele literally since I was a boy of 8 or 9.  So I’m going to live my childhood dream one way or another.  Legally, I will find a why.

            Testing drugs on volunteers, whatever it takes… I’m going to torture these rotten little shits all i can, just because I hate life.

          • ” i don’t want to make anything better. I only want to fucking torture and kill all the freaks and retards that i can.”

            yeah right. Cure. Ok.

            FBI and AMA are informed, and Albany Medical College should contact you shortly. If they dont, I’d say that’s worse.

          • By the way…. isn’t it rather telling that you can’t argue without resorting to panicked threats and personal attacks? 😉

            Even though I’m only trolling and kidding you, it is very amusing that you’re so riled about this.
            You actually think I live where I told you…. hahaha :)Fool.

          • It is of no consequence. Trolling or not, such speech isn’t protected, and the authorities are aware. You are somebody elses prob now bud 😉 Frankly, I can now smell the stench of back peddling on you.

            Maybe from now on you will think twice about spouting vile hate speech and claiming you will kill and torture.

            Mr Variable Charge X-linked protein 😉

            Lightweight – in every sense possible

          • It is of no consequence. Trolling or not, such speech isn’t protected, and the authorities are aware. You are somebody elses prob now bud 😉

            Maybe from now on you will think twice about spouting vile hate speech and claiming you will kill and torture.

            Mr Variable Charge X-linked protein 😉

            Lightweight – in every sense possible.

          • Get trolled some more ,busybody 😛

            Look at my post history. LOL
            FBI is informed that you are a crazy person… it’s more likely that you’re on some list than I.

          • cool. Im done with you now.

          • I already know all this, because I am a genius. I just wanted you to say it out loud so everyone else also knew.

          • I already know all this, because I am a genius. I just wanted you to say it out loud so everyone else also knew.

          • Hey remember when you said in your first reply to me that I was on “On the List”.

            Now you say “[I’m] a police matter”.

            LOL.
            You have to grow up and learn to accept that you can’t have everything you want.  You don’t get to stop me from living my life and pursuing my dream. You’re a proven liar (“on the list”, ROFL) and you have no common sense. You seriously think:

            1. I said anything illegal or incriminating.  I fucking hate retards and want them to die, and will help them die in any legal way I can.

            2.  You think the police care about a flamewar on the internet?  

            Shoot yourself bro.  Your legal threats are so transparent, they just show me that you feel upset and powerless.

          • Well, you may say you’re a genius, but you don’t even have a post-graduate degree.

            The police can’t do anything.  I live on Lark street in downtown Albany.

            My initials are MD (ironically enough).

            You don’t fucking scare me you stupid shit.  I already said “Legally”.  Whatever I can do in the legal profession to rid the world of these moon-faced freaks, I am going to do.
            If it just so happens that they undergo tremendous pain and their screams of agony give me an erection, too fuckin bad for you. 🙂

          • Lets just wait and see, shall we?

          • Uhhh, so, do you want me to post again every 24 hours just saying :

            “Psinet is a lying piece of shit, and there’s still nothing illegal about hatred”
            ???

            I’m going to be a doctor, I’m going to try to get rid of people who have Down’s Syndrome.

            I would tell this to anyone who will listen.  Do you have any idea what an ass you’re making of yourself with these vague, empty threats?

            You are powerless little kid.  Get over it.

          • Calling for the murder and torture of innocent people is illegal, and you know it. It is not protected speech. Trying to cover it up and say “oh I meant legally” wont save you now, psycho.

          • I said I want to cure retardism.  If they have to suffer,too fuckig bad.

            If i happent o like it, so what? I’m curigit.

        • I have no family, you ranting megalomaniac.

          You are a psychological backwater of devolution.

          I notice no one likes you…..?

          You will be first in line, bro.

        • Yeas we should probably bring back capital punishment, steal from the elderly and piss in the streets too, this all makes sense of course.  You knobhead.

        • Yeas we should probably bring back capital punishment, steal from the elderly and piss in the streets too, this all makes sense of course.  You knobhead.

        • Yeas we should probably bring back capital punishment, steal from the elderly and piss in the streets too, this all makes sense of course.  You knobhead.

          • Yes because curing diseases is the same thing as executing criminals.

            Really, curing disease is something that you want to come out against.  Interesting considering you chose the name “Jesus”, who healed the sick.

            Next time you get a headache don’t take any aspirin.  When you get up there in years and break a hip, don’t go to the hospital, just tough it out.  When your parents have heart attacks, don’t call 911.

            This all makes sense of course. You fannymouth.

        • Arguing online.  You are all moronic, get a life.

        • Arguing online.  You are all moronic, get a life.

          • There is another place to meet random dickheads and ridicule them? Where is this promised land?

          • Invite religious conservatives into your home when they come knockin’, seriously, it’s fun .) 

          • hehehe I am quite an expert at that. I have developed a pretty comprehensive methodology of divide and conquer. I mean, once you are in my kitchen – what hope do you have? They invariably leave with their heads spinning around ideas of simulism and just how unimaginative it appears their god might just be.

            I hope I haven’t killed any of them.

          • hehehe I am quite an expert at that. I have developed a pretty comprehensive methodology of divide and conquer. I mean, once you are in my kitchen – what hope do you have? They invariably leave with their heads spinning around ideas of simulism and just how unimaginative it appears their god might just be.

            I hope I haven’t killed any of them.

          • There is another place to meet random dickheads and ridicule them? Where is this promised land?

          • 1. you have a profile picture
            2. you made it clear you’re a woman
            3.  you named yourself “Jesus”. really?

            You say that arguing online is moronic and then insult everyone who has posted a comment.  You blow what I said out of proportion with these nonsensical comparisons of a genetic mutation (Downs) to old age. 

            GET BACK IN THE FUCKIN KITCHEN YOU STUPID VAIN CUNT

          • 1. you have a profile picture
            2. you made it clear you’re a woman
            3.  you named yourself “Jesus”. really?

            You say that arguing online is moronic and then insult everyone who has posted a comment.  You blow what I said out of proportion with these nonsensical comparisons of a genetic mutation (Downs) to old age. 

            GET BACK IN THE FUCKIN KITCHEN YOU STUPID VAIN CUNT

          • 1. you have a profile picture
            2. you made it clear you’re a woman
            3.  you named yourself “Jesus”. really?

            You say that arguing online is moronic and then insult everyone who has posted a comment.  You blow what I said out of proportion with these nonsensical comparisons of a genetic mutation (Downs) to old age. 

            GET BACK IN THE FUCKIN KITCHEN YOU STUPID VAIN CUNT

          • Um…. please inform me of the benefits of Down’s Syndrome, cerebral palsy, polio, smallpox, and scurvy.

            What the hell is wrong with me saying we should eliminate these plagues on humanity?

          • That is very simple to answer – the answer is this: Its not my duty to inform you of the benefits. It is YOU calling for eugenics. So it behoves YOU TO PROVE WHY THEY PROVIDE NO EVOLUTIONARY BENEFIT.

            Not us, you intellectual lightweight. Down’s Syndrome is just another example of the broad based genetic requirements for maintaning the human species, and to PROVIDE FOR THEIR FORWARD EVOLUTION (notice evolution has been happening without your eugenics?).

            You are a lightweight.

            As I said – first in line for you bro.

            You have been completely owned. And your mental superiors are telling YOU to get back in the kitchen and cook some fucking ideas, you sexist, waste of skin air thief.

            OMG i just noticed you added conditional diseases to a list of genetic. You are a joke. Scurvy can be fixed by eugenics? The intelligence of your kind explains why Hitler lost the war.

          • That is very simple to answer – the answer is this: Its not my duty to inform you of the benefits. It is YOU calling for eugenics. So it behoves YOU TO PROVE WHY THEY PROVIDE NO EVOLUTIONARY BENEFIT.

            Not us, you intellectual lightweight. Down’s Syndrome is just another example of the broad based genetic requirements for maintaning the human species, and to PROVIDE FOR THEIR FORWARD EVOLUTION (notice evolution has been happening without your eugenics?).

            You are a lightweight.

            As I said – first in line for you bro.

            You have been completely owned. And your mental superiors are telling YOU to get back in the kitchen and cook some fucking ideas, you sexist, waste of skin air thief.

            OMG i just noticed you added conditional diseases to a list of genetic. You are a joke. Scurvy can be fixed by eugenics? The intelligence of your kind explains why Hitler lost the war.

          • I want to talk to you on the phone or something.  

            You keep repeating “intellectual lightweight” like it’s some kind of trump card.  Then you say I’m “owned” like this is a game or something.

            You want me to prove why retards and mutants provide no evolutionary benefit..?  How about this – no.

            No, I won’t.

            Scurvy is just an example of a pointless disease that human beings should not still have to deal with – and they are in many parts of the world. That’s wrong to me.

            Think of all the parents who have to spend their lives caring for profoundly retarded individuals.  That’s lives wasted, lives that could’ve been much more productive and happy.

            In point of fact, whether you like it or not, eugenics is coming.  I am a first year medical student, and it is my primary motivation for becoming an MD.

            I will stop as many freaks and retards like this from being born as I can, that’s what drives me.

            And guess what?  You calling me a lightweight or getting overly emotional and telling me what I “have” to prove does nothing to further this conversation.

            So whatever, call me all the names you want.  It’s not going to change anything.

          • Lol. You want to call me? You are a sociopath, my friend. I am well aware that it is not possible to change the mind of people like you. Changing your mind is not my goal.

            My goal is publicly ridiculing you. Which I have done rather successfully, in the eyes of anyone with intelligence. And that’s all that matters.

            3rd line of the modern Hippocratic Oath:

            “I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.”

            You will never be a successful doctor. You won’t even accept the challenge of scientifically explaining your desire to wipe out these “mutants and retards”.

            And I know why. Because you can’t. Because there is no scientific justification.

            Furthermore, your pathetic adherence to some lame personal cause like wiping out those less fortunate than you, is now on public record. Contrary to common opinion, tracking down the author of online comments is extremely easy. And since what you are proposing is illegal – I encourage you to continue outing your psychosis.

            I say again: Down’s Syndrome is just another example of the broad based genetic
            requirements for maintaining the human species, and to PROVIDE FOR THEIR
            FORWARD EVOLUTION (notice evolution has been happening without your
            eugenics?).

            You are a lightweight. And you don’t have the requisite intelligence to be a successful doctor. 10 points for trying to wipe out humanity though. Good for you.

            You are dismissed. You may return to your delusion.

          • You’re actually not ridiculing me, you’re having an emotional breakdown.  You’re clearly a kid.

            You say “wipe out” and keep comparing me to Hitler or Nazis or whatever. I’m well aware of the Hippocratic oath, and there’s no need to hurt anyone with a humane eugenics program.

            Honestly, what is your fucking problem?  Why can’t you accept that humanity would be better off without people having diseases?

            Seriously, do you want a return of polio?  Do you not accept that the progress of medicine has been a good thing?  Should we still be using leaches and bleeding people who have fevers?

            You’re a terrible human being for trying to make this a personal attack against me, when my only statement was that “People like this should not exist.  They should be cured.”

            Why do you want me to fail as a doctor?  Why are you wishing bad things against me when you don’t even know me?  I don’t have any interest in putting you down.  Why aren’t you trying to put me down?

            You say “10 points for trying to wipe out humanity”.  Wow dude.  Because that’s exactly what I said, right?  No, it isn’t.

            As far as “tracking down” the author of online comments, I stand by everything I said.

            Me and others like me will institute an invisible holocaust against disease, when you stop seeing these almond-eyed freaks at the mall you will have me to thank.

            Hate me more, wish harm against me more.  I want that energy. 666

            PS.  If this comment gets removed, how is anyone going to “track down” the author? 🙂

          • you’ve obv never been on 4chan 

          • your’e a jerk. show some compassion. 

          • You are a badly drawn outline of an evil megalomaniac.

            “What are we going to do tonight, VCX?”

            “Same thing we do every night, Psinet. Try to take over the world!”

            Im in ya brain, killin ya synapses.

          • Um…. please inform me of the benefits of Down’s Syndrome, cerebral palsy, polio, smallpox, and scurvy.

            What the hell is wrong with me saying we should eliminate these plagues on humanity?

        • Arguing online.  You are all moronic, get a life.

  47. This so sick and disgusting.  These poor people shouldn’t be forced to be alive in their ugly, mentally retarded state.

    We need a serious eugenics program worldwide. NOW.

  48. This so sick and disgusting.  These poor people shouldn’t be forced to be alive in their ugly, mentally retarded state.

    We need a serious eugenics program worldwide. NOW.

  49. Remarkably touching. This documentary offers a brief glimpse of some of the truest love I have ever witnessed.

  50. Such people are very jealous when it comes to love.They can kill for the other person.

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