Paradise or Oblivion

This documentary details the root causes of the systemic value disorders and detrimental symptoms caused by our current established system. This video presentation advocates a new socio-economic system, which is updated to present-day knowledge, featuring the life-long work of Social Engineer, Futurist, Inventor and Industrial Designer Jacque Fresco, which he calls a Resource-Based Economy.

The film details the need to outgrow the dated and inefficient methods of politics, law, business, or any other “establishment” notions of human affairs, and use the methods of science, combined with high technology, to provide for the needs of all the world’s people. It is not based on the opinions of the political and financial elite or on illusionary so-called democracies, but on maintaining a dynamic equilibrium with the planet that could ultimately provide abundance for all people.

Paradise or Oblivion, by The Venus Project, introduces the viewer to a more appropriate value system that would be required to enable this caring and holistic approach to benefit human civilization. This alternative surpasses the need for a monetary-based, controlled, and scarcity-oriented environment, which we find ourselves in today.

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  1. We are all animals. It would be wonderful if something like this could work but unfortunately we cannot get over ourselves. One must realize that we as humans are but fleas on a dieing animal. We mate feed kill repeat. It is our nature, we are a young race in need of maturity.

  2. Ooops!!! There it is. Duh.

  3. I hate when I write a detailed and thoughtfull comment; I submit it, then it DISAPPEARS!!!!!

  4. I agree with George’s point, that you can’t solve all society’s problems, but you can try and make your own little world a kinder and gentler place. MyFriends and family are more important than the pursuit of power or things. Smiling at strangers and treating them with respect goes a long way; but use discretion because in this day and age you might get assaulted!

  5. stop hating, your opinions are useless please state facts and solutions don’t just say it wont work if you don’t have a better idea the Venus project will always be a work in progress it not perfect it never will be it will only get better just not perfect if you sit back and let the so called elite take over how can you complain if you get involved that wont happen.

  6. Jacque Fresco is a great man. You need a healthy brain to understand him.
    you can be jealous of him, because you have nothing to share.

  7. Forgive me but I have a hard time not looking askance at plans to ‘save the world’ because they all heretofore have failed to take into account that no matter how advanced our technologies or how sophisticated our philosophies may become, basic human nature has not changed very much at all in hundreds or perhaps even thousands of years. Where there is power there will be corruption and where there is corruption there will be victimization. Being unable to embrace atheism I see all problems/difficulties/challenges as spiritual in nature. The great challenge of the age – of any age – is to develop the individual spiritually. There is a myriad of methods for doing this and virtually none calls for directly trying to save the world. Do gooders are dangerous to themselves and sometimes others if they are not spiritually mature people. Worrying about the big picture is a big trap and frequently lures the spiritually immature away from legitimate responsibilities in their own little personal lives which being neglected invariably produce disappointment and disillusionment which only add to world suffering. The spiritually mature naturally find that their own personal part of the puzzle is of greater import than is readily apparent to those ‘less evolved’. They come to realize that a happy man is better for the cause of world suffering than many UN compassionate charters.

  8. Regardless of what you think of his theory this guy’s architecture is terrible.

  9. A perfect world…it sounds so good and also environmentally friendly. It is really what we all need and seem so far from achieving, in today’s high speed, digital, technically advancing and rapidly changing society that we live in today. These thoughts and ideas seem futuristic and so far away from our ideals and progress of the present, but they should be recognised and utilised sometime and some place in the not so distant future…It may all come into sensible practise starting around January 1st, 2013…Happy New Year to you all…money is not necesary, but food is…

  10. Thanks for sharing this thought provoking program. I appreciated Albert Einstein’s idea stating that no longer can people think how people thought in the past. Sounds like evolution – with a brain – to me. Unfortunately, Mr. Fresco’s ideas are wonderfully idealistic and frank; but, ideas which would not be readily accepted by the powers that be. I valued the idea of resource sharing and questioned the idea that researchers actually work “so that products will break shortly after warranty (paraphrase???) Hope not.

  11. @godinn, You really scare me when you spew so much hatred and venom at people you’ve never even met.

    People of all races have been trying to destroy each other for as long as I can remember.

    There’s good and bad people everywhere; they come in all colours.

  12. @Barry…a little research goes a long way to helping you not appear so stupid…all of your “questions” are answered by the Venus Project website…what is it that makes someone care enough to make a comment but not care enough to actually investigate what they are commenting on?…

  13. Some really interesting ideas. Although extremely utopian, it does point out that our current system doesn’t work. Still i gotta disagree regarding the views on soldiers and wars. Soldiers do think that they’re fighting for the right cause, as the video points out, the values of soldiers (this includes all fighting men, terrorists etc) differ from culture to culture. Sad fact is that those who can’t kill will ALWAYS be subject to those who can, and therefore there will always be wars, and the need of people ready to die for the right thing.

  14. @goddin. I didn’t even know such bigoted, racist, abhorrent and deplorable opinions were held by people in this day and age. I am glad I live in a more tolerant and cosmopolitan area.

  15. Well I don’t know for sure but I would guess that the form of government would be based on a loose form of meritocracy. This would ensure that the most well educated and experienced made decisions on the field that they are at the forefront in. Decisions that weren’t biased towards commercial interest or money, but concerned with the environment and welfare of people by folks who understood their fields. Sounds better than the current form of government to me.

    Better to have a pipe-dream and have something to strive towards rather than dismiss everything and get no where. That kind of attitude insures that progression remains a pipe-dream.

    Also, I just checked and there are 3,000 scientific and technical people on the database willing to donate their time and efforts to this idea for free. That in itself indicates that it is an movement in progress and is far more than one mans dreams.

  16. I’m paraphrasing here: “Descisions are made on the availability of resources and towards the good of all, rather than private interests of corporations and goverments.”

    The questions remains:
    – Who decides? A computer? The people? Elected officials?
    – How is this decided who decides?
    – If it is everyone who decides, how is this achieved?
    – How do you define ‘all’? Does this include the rabbit that you want to eat tonight? Does it gain rights also? Or does it stay a resource, like it is today? Who decided that it doesn’t or does get rights?

    The Venus Project fails to answer any of these questions, as always. It simply says these descisions are made… Not how.
    Its the How that is fucking up this world right now. Some insight into the way the Venus Project envisions its ‘How’ would be apreciated.

  17. @ boats

    Because there is no future in being black. You are doomed to wipe yourselves out. Everywhere in the world you are you act like animals. The enormous murder rate amongst your own population shows that no matter what kind of environment your race is put in you will find a way to act like sub human filth every time. That’s why its always a white future. And its a bright future.

  18. Predictive anthropology never seemed so tepid. I like that we’ll all agree on the importance of tennis as a recreational activity. Aesthetics are worth fighting over. Why’s it always gotta be a white future?

  19. The Venus Project … no thank you. Venus being their Lucifarian lightbringer harbinger of the one world under the groove of centralised control of every individual via electronic, carbon based, sustainable economy.

    Another ready made biodegradable wrapper containing the very seeds of ecogenocidal ends. Worth watching for the education of how these types operate to conjure up support for what appears to be a very valid and viable alternative (which is actually far worse than more of the same). Again, Agenda 21 in motion.

  20. that jacke fresco guy is nothing short than pure genius