“The Columbine Cause” by Evan Long raises questions about the April 20, 1999 attack on Columbine High School which have gone unaddressed or unanswered by corporate and state media, including: Why do counts of the ballistics evidence charts yield totals far greater than the three hundred-odd shots officially stated by law enforcement officials to have been fired? Why did students and teachers inside the school during the attack describe up to a dozen distinct shooters, some of whom some of them were able to identify by name as neither Eric Harris nor Dylan Klebold? Why were the people of the world told that the attack was a “wake-up call” when some Columbine students knew it to have been “the big rumor” for up to two years in advance? There is much more to the story of the attack on Columbine than has been widely made known. http://www.xmail.net/evanlong/tcc/
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this is not a situation in which only 10 people experienced high stress situations that obscured their perception its was the entire students and the community who all NAMED students and other adults as shooters. everyone was corroborating in naming the suspects and there was prior knowledge that a shooting was going to happen no one did anything to stop it
The author corrected this on his web site.
Actually the official investigation was the slap in the face… Total BS.
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Obviously a lot of work went into this, sadly it fails in some basic areas. It relies entirely on eye witness testimony… which is notoriously unreliable.People are just terrible at remembering details like that, there are countless studies demonstrating this.
what a slap in the face to the victims, their families and all the children that were traumatized on this horrible day. Shame on you!
It is very common in a high stress highly violent situations for witness perception to be very obscured or even completely incorrect. Gun shots heard under stress do not sound like gun shots fired while hunting or at a shooting range. This same goes for shots inside to outside, rural, or urban. Victims as well as shooters also experience what is know as “auditory exclusion”. What this is, in short, is your ears do not hear what is going on due to your primary scenes focusing on optical perception. Times and distances also become very obscured. Therefore what a witness may hear or perceive may not be completely accurate.
explain then how three men wearing camo were momentarily arrested in the school fields having knowledge of the shooting when it was not yet reported by the mass media then also explain how a potential student shooter, who was named by numerous witnesses by name he was wearing a south park tshit and had glasses, was also arrested
The thing that makes these witnesses stand out is that they are independently corroborating each other.
argumentum ad hominem!!! calling someone names does in no way disprove their statements made. an articulate argument requires logic and non-contradictory facts. merely calling someone “retarded” or even “brainfart” negates the validity of an argument even if the argument is true. addycat, your argument was valid until “brain fart” and pointing out grammatical errors. these are attacks of ad hominem you would do better sticking to the point.
Allmyangerisdirected, mike and “anonymous” you have not provided any evidence that any of this is “bullshit”. please state your argument in a factual context and maybe the debate will go better. you can’t just say something is untrue without providing a basis for your argument.
This was an interesting argument. There’s one thing missing (although, perhaps I missed it) — if anything is being covered up, what is the motive to do so?
In short – Gun Control. Gun Control is something that the population of the US will be VERY unwilling to accept, but if there are 20 years worth of public shootings the public will DEMAND it. The US is not a democratic nation – it is owned and controlled by international bankers. There is a wealth of information available on this topic that I won’t go into here, but if you’re open minded and willing to wake up you can see plain as day that there are people in the world that want control over it. A public that exercises their right to bear arms is a very real threat to world control by an elite few, so, to eliminate that threat, guns need to be very strictly controlled. This is not something that happens overnight. Kind of like the frog that boils in a pot of water. We won’t have any clue it’s happening, but one day we’ll wake up and find ourselves in an oppressive totalitarian society and have no means to do anything about it. This awful tragedy is just one step along the way to ensuring the public wants their weapons strictly controlled – if we don’t, our kids might be shot in school by the Trench Coat Maffia.
BTW I agree with the oppressive totalitarian society thing, just not the gun control aspect.
I don’t think gun control. Destabilization of society for less democracy and more fear (and being a sucker for right wingers like GWB’s GWOT and the Koch Bros’ Tea Party agenda), yes. Gun control, no. And if you are one of those militia types who thinks you’re gonna storm the castle or something with your assault rifle and “bring freedom” or whatever, try again b/c the gov’t has nuclear weapons.
Haha, just kidding. I’m actually a flaming homo and slightly retarded to boot.
Maybe shouldn’t blast a choas magician, lol. Causing harm to others for your own gain with dark arts is pure evil and selfishness. But that is the way of Satanists. I’ve read the works of Anton Lavey and Crowley. They talk about not impeading on others then go rape children. Compairing Satanism or Chaos magic to paganism is a broad brush stroke to say the least.
These kids were involved with some heavy stuff and were heavily brainwashed. The Colorado area is a hotbed for the elite and there satanic ceremonies. Research the New World Airport, creepy. Hell, it’s Halliburton country. Eye witness testimony can be unreliable, but when that many people are positive they knew the other shooters by name you can’t dismiss it. If you don’t believe this attack and others like it, Norway/Virginia, are part of black ops you need to do some more research on your world and what shadow groups are capable of.
Psychopaths/sociopaths are in fact drawn to dark arts because of the promise of power over others. The same reason they’re drawn to the financial industries and police work. There are many phychologists that have confirmed this. Not saying that all people that practice the dark arts are bad people. I’m sure many are decent and many just think it’s cool. But remember, if you do dance with the devil so to speak, you’re just a disposable tool for powers beyond your control. Just look how Harris and Klebold ended up.
Chaos magician here. I’m not sure what bringing in chaos magick has to do with this at all. Yes, paganism exists, no, it doesn’t attract psychopathy in any greater degree than any other religion. Robert Anton Wilson was one of the most pleasant and positive human beings I’ve ever read — citing him as somehow being connected to this is defamatory bullshit.
I call bullshit. See “The Psychopath’s Bible” by Christopher Hyatt, a regularly cited work among Chaotes/Discordians. Want to clean up your movement, please?
Yet another amateur speculation piece that sources discrepancies in witness accounts and ambiguous photographic evidence in order to serve the author’s fantasy. Witness accounts are always unreliable during crises and this is the only fact that this tedious presentation brings to light.
As long as these are the only accounts available to the general public, we will long suffer awful pieces like this. I feel sorry for the author, who has obviously invested a great deal of energy in this project.
“As long as these are the only accounts available to the general public, we will long suffer awful pieces like this. I feel sorry for the author, who has obviously invested a great deal of energy in this project.”
There are at least as many account contradicting the official version in the documents as there are supporting it. What others are you looking for to be released?
i didn’t know any of the information presented in this documentary. this was fascinating. i could have done without the end bit about Satanism. that part seemed like more of an opinion piece. it could have been presented in the same manner as the rest of the doc. great work, otherwise
omg – what is this… Just eye witnesses stories that contradict the official story, I hate doco’s that do this.. Cause as we know ever eye witness is lways both reliable and Correct in what they are saying… Won’t even being to comment on the blood splatter analysis that he gives at 8:30 – very convincing… NOT
the author is not making shit up he backed his theory by going to the 25,000 pages of evidence, i bet your one of the many people who has not read a paragraph from the 25000 pages of evidence but instead you undermine his work. start reading buddy columbine was a coverup and orchestrated by elements within the government to further an agenda
When many witnesses corroborate each other independently, this is more likely to be reliable. That was what happened here. The author of this even tracked some of them down later on, and they confirmed their story and that they had talked to others in their town later on…many people were very convinced that there were others involved. Even Chris Morris’ mother kicked him out of the house b/c she thought he had been involved.
It is plain for all to see that Columbine had additional shooters. A wealth of eyewitness evidence proves that. Good job Evan Long.
This doc is abit much. But one thing it does do is lay out its facts with numerous sources and seems well research, enough that it atleast makes a decent case about other shooters/planners. It literally names people with eyewitnesses for over an hour of other people it could be. Its also shot in the most boring way possible of just shots of paper where he is citing.
The last 20 minutes it goes off the rails though.
Did you all even watch the documentary? Until the end all it does is go through the 25,000 pages of evidence that I’m sure none of you bothered to read. Regardless of what you think of his take on the situation, the vast majority of the documentary is an compilation of facts, and facts do not equal conspiracy bullshit. Maybe you should learn how to spell (fairy tail?) and learn how to articulate actual criticisms of the evidence, or else you will be the one who seems naive and insulting.
First you say “an compilation” then say I should learn to spell? lol
Retard!
“an compilation” isn’t a spelling mistake – more a grammatical error (although obviously a typo). “lol Retard!” however, cannot be passed off as a mistake and is a much clearer indication of level of intelligence…
A typo isn’t nearly as retarded as mixing up “tail” and “tale” – that sort of mix-up just makes you look uneducated. And anyways, my point still stands that criticisms are worthless if they rest on vague adjectives like “naive” and “insulting” – how about giving a intelligent analysis of the evidence instead?
If you think I’m retarded Branefart, I will debate you any day of the week. Bring it on.
Yea, this kid will debate you. Any day of the week. Bring it on. All or Nothing. The movie.
“anyways”, “a intelligent”, very educated.
talk about missing the point…
This is naive and insulting. I saw one that had Elvis as the shooter that was much better done.
Please elaborate.
yea crap dont bother
This is not a documentary. This is someones fairy tail and it’s full of “conspiracy” bullshit that amounts to nothing!
“Tale” not “tail,” try again please. You must be at least this tall to ride the ride.
huh? this all sounds pretty real. all those witnesses saying the same things. people like you, mike, are the bullshit that amounts to nothing. you’re the reason the truth never comes out. you’re an idiot.
sad story….soo inspirational I wrote a song about it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRxxe0tO61c&feature=channel_video_title