“Using satire, research and some common sense, we explore common-sense questions about God.
A former Christian of 30 years, I ultimately found that religion, faith and scripture lacked any true answers, especially in the (bright) light of scientific discovery and the truth of Evolution by Natural Selection.
Having an insiders perspective of Christianity, I use my skills as a producer to stir the pot of debate and, hopefully, make it uncomfortable for anyone to be a mere spectator in the arena of ideas.” – From the Producer
Note: This is not a documentary film in a strict sense. These are professionally edited short clips gathered from a YouTube channel named The Thinking Atheist.
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Atheists are stupid and have no soul.
LOL, religious dum fucks, cant even prove a soul exists
There is no such thing as a “thinking atheist.”
It was like a negative campaign ad, very disappointing.
Yeah, those “documentaries” aren’t biased at all. Lol
wrong
That didn’t tell me anything I didn’t already know. Its just argument fodder.
Atheism was designed to funnel people smart enough to see past Christianity into a new religion based on sudo to outdated to pure BS science. I don’t get why anybody cares they are basically the liberal Phelps’s? People in this country really need to study walls! You know the things that keep you trapped. It’s funny because you all see religion and atheism as opposing instead of just opposite. Just because I’m opposite of you does that mean we oppose one another? When two guys lift a couch are they opposing one another no regardless of their stance on the reality of the couch they are both propping it up.
u dont get it do u?
Atheist are people who are not intelligent enough to be an agnostic. Atheist and Christians both take a stance on god the unproven and this is anti scientific. As a scientist you do not take a stance on things unproven and unfounded in fact period. Atheism is science dumbed down into a religion of belief mean while if you put down the Darwin and pick up some current day science you will find how ridiculous atheism and so called science that the main stream preaches really is. Atheist would fall in the camp of arguing against scientific research. In the early 90’s a scientist proved with scientific testing that the sphinx in Cairo is 12000 years older than “believed” and the religious atheist movement responded with that’s impossible because your facts go against my belief that human’s didn’t have the tools back then??? I could go on and on Bosnia Pyramids contain ceramic, but scientist say it’s fake because human’s didn’t have the ability to make ceramic. Jim Mars goes into Pyramids and finds saw cuts, science oh that’s impossible people didn’t have saws back then. People left from islands and continents abandoning their societies and cites, a smart person says obviously they jumped in boats and sailed away, scientist say they disappeared because boats didn’t exist according to my book of opinions. These dumb scientist are definitely of the atheist variety. Religious believers of burned out opinions. How can our society be so dumb down that two groups who both define them self on taking a stance on something unprovable think they are different? And where do atheist get off associating them self with science? Atheist and Religious science are just opposite walls in the same tiny prison. Walls are not opposite to give you a golden mean or to choose sides they are opposite to imprison something between them.
the god of the bible does not exists,
FFUCK JEUS CHRIST IN THE ASS FUCK GOD FUCK THAT OLD HOE MARYY UP HER RED SNACH PUSSY
If you really want to piss them off read Plato’s account of Socrates being put to death. You will find as I did that the Romans ripped off Socrates story taking out the crucial point that Socrates was killed for going around and teaching people how to think. They took Socrates story and changed the meaning to you have to love one another. Socrates would have said what is love? It’s a word tossed over a range of emotions that over ride ones ability to think for them self.
Try Ayahuasca, that will provide some insight. I had the equivalent of a near death experience and witnessed the birth of me from a disembodied spirit into human form. When I got back from the retreat I broke my neck to go to church, and I now pray every night. No joke, all the things you don’t get in normal reality you sure as heck get when you are taken into the expansive universe. It was daunting, we are created and we can never be uncreated, ever. I mean, get your head round that… Beautiful head cluck. I saw the creator but not in the form if an old man with a beard. I get why religion manifested because it is almost impossible to comprehend or explain the nature of reality, and the one who created our reality. Totally get why god got reduced I to that concept, for the human mind to sort of grasp. As I said, try Ayahuasca and see the truth being reality. Don’t do it if your are not if sound mind, or attached to your belief system, whatever it is, it will get blown to bits, and you could go mad e,g nuts.
drugs do stuff to your brains so what? doesnt prove a god in anyway
LMAO…..I wonder how many people feel stupid after watching this? I give this video a 10
Irritated I just wasted precious minutes of my life on this. Where are all these facts that disprove God’s existence? This is nothing more than entertainment for bored, closed-minded people to make a mockery of God. Shit like this is considered educational? Losing all hope for humanity.
God of the bible is an asshole
Hannah if I told you ZEUS existed and because Zeus existed I get to tell Gays they are an abominiation and start holy wars all over the world and my religion causes insitutional rape of children and on and on and on and treating women like less than men —
Would you say the proof was on ME or YOU to prove the existence of Zeus?
The burden of proof is on the believer, not the skeptic or the atheist. Atheists no not CLAIM to KNOW for sure — atheists withold belief in the absence of evidence..
There is no possible way to DISPROVE the existence of god — there is simply no REASON to believe — and very good reasons to NOT believe — once you supply the evidence for ZEUS or THOR, I’ll believe in your fairy tale medieval superstitions that are crippling humanity.
This is type of ridiculing satire doesn’t influence or persuade anyone with different ideology to atheism. In my opinion it’s naff and just rallies the people with the same type narrow perspective you can find in religion. 2/5 not worth watching.
why are atheist bothered that people believe God after all every thing is meaningless. just an evolutionary process. why bother ,let chaos reign.There is nothing to fear,no eternity, well except you have been wrong all along.
because they try to put their religion down other people throats, and try to put religion in politics, religion should be far away from politics
Science is about facts; how you choose to deal with these facts (e.g, subscribing to myths from the bronze age because they’re emotionally comforting) is up to you.
Exactly that’s why atheist are anti science for taking a stance on the unprovable. Atheist like to pretend they agree with science to gain credibility. But again referring to atheism as the belief that god doesn’t exist shows a foundation in the unprovable. Science doesn’t refer to that which it can not prove. Atheism is a new religion. Current day science 2015 proves what atheist believe to be false. Neanderthals we didn’t evolve from we co-existed. This was Darwin basis for his entire theory that evolution is true because of all the human species. And because today we are finding that consciousness is non local all your petty beliefs are wrong. And people are so stupid they can’t see it right in their face. Every one has heard of the placebo effect, people actually healed in drug test with a fake drug, a salt tablet, a water pill? This means the belief in the fake drug was all it took. So seeing that your belief can effect change now you can see how the atheist movement uses objectification to make you believe you have no choice in change. This means science and psychiatry have had it all completely wrong. Belief horse whispers you all into thinking your here for one reason or another and anybody who has invented something new has always rebelled against the ignorant masses and their belief. That is why science is different then belief. A scientist never believes he continues to measure because of evolution and adaptation nothing is constant. Yet the science you religious whack job atheist spout is everything is what it is and what it was when we observed it one time for a moment. The frustrating thing is you all believe and that is the problem. Not who believes what just to believe in general you are part of the ignorance.
LOL, retard
You need professional help. Please seek it and educate yourself.
ex confirmed catholic. now free.
Once again…you understand nothing of the concept of Burden of Proof. You then try to mask your ignorance with lies and mistruths. Educate yourself moron!
hilarious! my evolved opposable thumbs approve 🙂
there was once a time that i was a bible believing, full immersion baptized, door to door proselytizing, born again christian. but the more i read the bible, the more i saw the flaws, contradictions and insanity, so i quit believing. i still believed in a god, though. i started researching judaism, islam, neo paganism, “spirituality”, et cetera. more flaws found. there goes all my belief in anything spiritual, supernatural or paranormal. and despite the experiencing of more hatred towards me because of my disbelief, i’ve never been more at ease and happier.
one question for believers. why do so many of you think atheists have arrived at their position because they’ve never read the bible or other “holy” books? most atheists i know are far more versed in scripture than most believers i know. most of us have become atheists because of the research we’ve done, not because of our ignorance.
The opinion expressed in the movie is understandable, but its not the best way to express it – through making fun of different believes. Was expecting something more serious, not a plain comic interpretation of the Bible. There is not much THINKING in this one, sadly… But this interpretation suits the mind of an average person quite well – “I will tell you what to think, all you have to do is agree”. Not a very useful nor informational documentary.
I wonder if Mit Romney is wearing those nifty magical onesies?
haha this is brilliant, after watching this would think how on earth could anyone really believe in a god or god’s… however then you read some of the comments below and realize that there are many very stupid close minded people who will believe anything they are taught from a young age.. =(
Was a christian until I watched zeitgeist. Good or bad? or is there more facts to atheism? after watching some of the documentaries involving atheism and religion on this site, I cant force myself to believe there is a holy man/men/woman/women up in the clouds above watching our every move, and judging our every move.
just out of curiosity, many of you state that there are “factual errors” in the first few minutes. Would you mind giving some examples to back this statement? not saying i don’t believe you, but if you don’t give your examples it won’t help those who may be less deluded… i mean observable than yourselves.
observant*
im not christian……. but i know that half of the stuff in the videos is false info…. For one, Jesus peace be upon him is not god….. no where in the bible does it say Jesus (pbuh) claimed divinity. In fact, if u read the bible, it says, in the Gospel of John, Chapter 14, verse 28, “My father is greater than I.” In the Gospel of John, chapter 10, verse 29, it reads, “My father it greater than all.” Gospel of Matthew chapter 12 verse 28, “I cast out devils with the sprit of God.” Gospel of John Ch 5 v 30 “I can not of my own self do nothing, for I seek not my will, but the will of my Father.” These are just a few verses.
I agree that breaking free of indoctrination (change) is difficult for everyone. For the open minded, level headed, I will now tell you what I truly believe if you are willing to read it. (just my opinion) As a young man, I had an epiphany regarding how people think. One of our greatest limitations is this idea that either ‘one or the other’ (not both) dominates how we think.(George Bush-if your not with us, your against us) After spending a great deal of time studying science and religion, I came to the following conclusion. Science itself has taught us that life only exists due to the imperfections of the universe. (broken symmetry) This is why we can perceive differences like hot/cold, left/right, up/down, etc. Science and religion are the ultimate expression of this duality. Science itself even has it’s own duality with relativity and quantum mechanics. Until we have a better description, we must accept that both are right and co-exist together, because both theories have been proven correct, time after time. It is because of this, I pursued the ultimate theory of unification, and this was it’s result. (are you ready for this?) The universe is a brain.(11 dimensional if the math is correct) When I look up, I no longer see stars and nebulous, I see neurons and dendritic connections. If we assume I am correct, here is the implications. 1) the universe lives on it’s own realm of space and time.2)We are thoughts in the universe which created us.3) Our purpose in life is to learn and pass the information on so the universe can cope within it’s own realm, much like we do in ours.4) The universe/god is not all knowing and relies on us.(imperfection)5) I am a god to my thoughts. I create my thoughts which in turn creates other thoughts, much like having children.6) Immortality can only occur if we live a life worth remembering. 7) Immortality means reliving the same life over and over, everytime our dendrtic connection is activated.(so make it a good one)8) If there was no life, what would be the point of the universe?9) There can be no thinking without thoughts! (past/present/future) This is why I say that I am spiritual, not religious, because no man made religion has yet incorporated an all encompassing thought process. On the contrary, they are as divided as the duality that created them. (only through Christ-everyone else forsaken, only thorugh Ala, everyone else forsaken, the jews are the chosen people!) In other words, I don’t care if it is a Christian crusade or a muslim Jihad, it is all hypocritical mindless fanaticism to me, as a self justification of actions that are against the very scripture they purport to believe in. (my hypocracy only goes so far)
To those with religious indoctrination, these comments are blasphemy.
A continuation of this hypocracy is to believe only in natural selection which is purely survival.(dog eat dog) Hitler liked this thinking (Darwinism) which supported his ideology towards the master race. This ultimately led to Eugenics and planned parenthood with forced sterilization. This all occurs because love, morality, and compassion don’t enter the equation of pure science much like a capitalist doesn’t want regulation so their greed addiction (cancer/imbalance) can be fed to oblivion.To the atheist, this is blasphemy.
Scientifically speaking, the universe is not expanding, it is collapsing in on itself under the force of gravity, and it is accelerating.(confirmed late 90’s-acceleration) When scans were done on human brains, and they went back a decade later and rescanned, they found the configurations changed. When they zoomed in further, they found the same configurations were still there, but they had shrunk. Since I conceived this idea 25 years ago, I have not found anything scientifically or religiously incongruent, or in contradiction to what we have confirmed so far. Now, I could be wrong, because I am not all knowing, nor am I perfect.I am not going to slam this down anyone’s throat, nor am I going to attack those who think differently than me. What I do know is humanity is in severe need for a paradigm shift in thinking, or we better quit having children for their sake if we wish to continue on the path we’re on. I do feel it is time for this idea or something similar(preferably better if possible) to take hold, but I haven’t seen one yet. In any case, I hope what I have written makes those who read it think, not necessarily like me, just think, because we are running out of time. If you don’t believe me, that is okay, I won’t be offended. If you can find something that better explains existance, I am all ears! thanks for your time, best wishes, and live long and prosper!
P.S: For those people who can’t be nice, and restrain themselves from nasty remarks(atheists, religious alike)then keep it to yourselves, because you are not clever, your just not nice. At least I have given something new and creative, unlike arguing over the same old nonsense again and again.
As a young man, I had an epiphany regarding how people think. One of our greatest limitations is this idea that either one or the other(not both) dominates how we think.(George Bush-if your not with us, your against us) After spending a great deal of time studying science and religion, I came to the following conclusion. Science itself has taught us that life only exists due to the imperfections of the universe. (broken symmetry) This is why we can perceive differences like hot/cold, left/right, up/down, etc. Science and religion are the ultimate expression of this duality. Science itself even has it’s own duality with relativity and quantum mechanics. Until we have a better description, we must accept that both are right and co-exist together, because both theories have been proven correct, time after time. It is because of this, I pursued the ultimate theory of unification, and this was it’s result. (are you ready for this?) The universe is a brain. When I look up, I no longer see stars and nebulous, I see neurons and dendritic connections. If we assume I am correct, here is the implications. 1) the universe lives on it’s own realm of space and time.2)We are thoughts in the universe which created us.3) Our purpose in life is to learn and pass the information on so the universe can cope within it’s own realm, much like we do in ours.4) The universe/god is not all knowing and relies on us.(imperfection)5) I am a god to my thoughts. I create my thoughts which in turn creates other thoughts, much like having children.6) Immortality can only occur if we live a life worth remembering. 7) Immortality means reliving the same life over and over, everytime our dendrtic connection is activated.(so make it a good one)8) If there was no life, what would be the point of the universe?9) There can be no thinking without thoughts! (past/present/future) This is why I say that I am spiritual, not religious, because no man made religion has yet incorporated an all encompassing thought process. On the contrary, they are as divided as the duality that created them. (only through Christ-everyone else forsaken, only thorugh Ala, everyone else forsaken, the jews are the chosen people!) In other words, I don’t care if it is a Christian crusade or a muslim Jihad, it is all hypocritical mindless fanaticism to me, as a self justification of actions that are against the very scripture they purport to believe in. (my hypocracy only goes so far) A continuation of this hypocracy is to believe only in natural selection which is purely survival.(dog eat dog) Hitler liked this thinking (Darwinism) which supported his ideology towards the master race. This ultimately led to Eugenics and planned parenthood with forced sterilization. This all occurs because love, morality, and compassion don’t enter the equation much like a capitalist doesn’t want regulation so their greed addiction (cancer/imbalance) can be fed to oblivion. Scientifically speaking, the unvierse is not expanding, it is collapsing in on itself under the force of gravity, and it is accelerating.(confirmed late 90’s) When scans were done on human brains, and they went back a decade later and rescanned, they found the configurations changed. When they zoomed in further, they found the same configurations were still there, but they had shrunk. Since I conceived this idea 25 years ago, I have not found anything scientifically or religiously incongruent, or in contradiction to what we have confirmed so far. Now, I could be wrong, because I am not all knowing, nor am I perfect.I am not going to slam this down anyone’s throat, nor am I going to atrtack those who think differently than me. What I do know is humanity is in severe need for a paradigm shift in thinking, or they better quit having children if they wish to continue on the path we’re on. I do feel it is time for this idea or something similar(preferably better if possible) but I haven’t seen one yet. In any case, I hope what I have written makes those who read it think, not necessarily like me, just think, because we are running out of time. If you don’t believe me, that is okay, I won’t be offended. If you can find something that better explains existance, I am all ears! thanks for your time, best wishes, and live long and prosper!
awful_truth, I really like your attitude.
Beside that I’d like to share my prospective by using a personal anecdote:
– I can’t remember the year I realized that Santa Claus doesn’t exist
because It came gradually. Christmas after Christmas I was getting more
conscious of the fact that my relatives and family friends where
responsible for the gifts under the tree. Whatever, as I was told, since
I remember, that was Santa Clause the one in charge of such nice thing
, it was difficult for me to find out the truth because the truth
didn’t include this wonderful figure I was in love with since the
beginning of times.
I felt a little betrayed when I found out. –
God has been necessary, to justify the existence of everything we see, in
ages in which we didn’t have an alternative explanation of all.
Now we know quiet a lot and we can explain most of what’s around and
inside us and yet we find impossible to renounce to the role of a
creator.
It’s like if the kid, after having realized that the gifts are given by his relatives, keeps believing in Santa Claus anyway.
I personally consider it a bit stubborn.
Now… If you were born in India you would believe in several
gods(actually it’s more complex than that) and the same if you were born
sometimes in the past; Ancient Greeks, ancient Egyptians, Romans,
American Indians and so on.
In all these cases you would be convinced of a very different scenario
from the one you believe in now. I am not talking about religion but
about One vs Many creators. So here we have a problem. What would you
tell to an Indian person if you two start discussing about gods ? What
would he tell you?
One of you has to be wrong. Who?
Science can’t explain everything and it never will. The more we know the
more we understand that there is more. It’s like walking toward the
horizon, it will always be there it doesn’t matter how far we go.
The fact that we can not understand the consciousness or the infinite doesn’t need a creator… as it doesn’t need a soul.
Soul? If everything we see around us is a temporary… let’s say
concentration of energy, for instance: You put a seed in the soil, it
starts absorbing material for it’s surrounding areas and it grows. After
years it’s a huge tree until it dies and it decomposes melting again in
to the ground. Some of it’s molecules will be part of something else
and this process has been such since the beginning of “our” universe.
They say “we are all made of stardust” because this is a constant recycling process.
If everything we know behaves like that why should an eventual SOUL
behave differently? Like: One sperm meets an egg to create an embryo, at
some point the embryo is alive and it has a soul, it becomes a human
with a soul, when heshe dies the body melts like the tree but the soul
stays as it is, it just flies up in the sky to stay with god forever.
It’s like plastic, you can create it but never destroy it:)
…Or there was a definite number of souls when god created everything
and these souls are all waiting for their time to jump in to new babies,
to become wise and then leave the body to go back doing what they where
doing before.
I am not being sarcastic and I really hope I didn’t sound arrogant or presumptuous.
If I have offended anybody, please except my apologies, it wasn’t my
intention at all. I am just trying to find answers that don’t leave
space to speculation.
Mr or Mrs awful_truth, thank you for the attention.
PS: Please forgive my bad grammar, English is not my native language.
Hi Manuel. My apologies, I finally found your blog that you were refering to, not the one I thought, but that’s alright, because once again, I respect what you have said. I read your blog in it’s entirety and I agree that breaking free of indoctrination (change) is difficult for everyone. Since your are intelligent and level headed, I will now tell you what I truly believe if you are willing to read it. (just my opinion)
As a young man, I had an epiphany regarding how people think. One of our greatest limitations is this idea that either one or the other(not both) dominates how we think.(George Bush-if your not with us, your against us) After spending a great deal of time studying science and religion, I came to the following conclusion.
Science itself has taught us that life only exists due to the imperfections of the universe. (broken symmetry) This is why we can perceive differences like hot/cold, left/right, up/down, etc. Science and religion are the ultimate expression of this duality. Science itself even has it’s own duality with relativity and quantum mechanics. Until we have a better description, we must accept that both are right and co-exist together, because both theories have been proven correct, time after time. It is because of this, I pursued the ultimate theory of unification, and this was it’s result. (are you ready for this?)
The universe is a brain. When I look up, I no longer see stars and nebulous, I see neurons and dendritic connections. If we assume I am correct, here is the implications.
1) the universe lives on it’s own realm of space and time.
2)We are thoughts in the universe which created us.
3) Our purpose in life is to learn and pass the information on so the universe can cope within it’s own realm, much like we do in ours.
4) The universe/god is not all knowing and relies on us.(imperfection)
5) I am a god to my thoughts. I create my thoughts which in turn creates other thoughts, much like having children.
6) Immortality can only occur if we live a life worth remembering.
7) Immortality means reliving the same life over and over, everytime our dendrtic connection is activated.(so make it a good one)
8) If there was no life, what would be the point of the universe?
9) There can be no thinking without thoughts! (past/present/future)
This is why I say that I am spiritual, not religious, because no man made religion has yet incorporated an all encompassing thought process. On the contrary, they are as divided as the duality that created them. (only through Christ-everyone else forsaken, only thorugh Ala, everyone else forsaken, the jews are the chosen people!) In other words, I don’t care if it is a Christian crusade or a muslim Jihad, it is all hypocritical mindless fanaticism to me, as a self justification of actions that are against the very scripture they purport to believe in. (my hypocracy only goes so far) A continuation of this hypocracy is to believe only in natural selection which is purely survival.(dog eat dog) Hitler liked this thinking (Darwinism) which supported his ideology towards the master race. This ultimately led to Eugenics and planned parenthood with forced sterilization. This all occurs because love, morality, and compassion don’t enter the equation much like a capitalist doesn’t want regulation so their greed addiction (cancer/imbalance) can be fed to oblivion.
Scientifically speaking, the unvierse is not expanding, it is collapsing in on itself under the force of gravity, and it is accelerating.(confirmed late 90’s)
When scans were done on human brains, and they went back a decade later and rescanned, they found the configurations changed. When they zoomed in further, they found the same configurations were still there, but they had shrunk.
Since I conceived this idea 25 years ago, I have not found anything scientifically or religiously incongruent, or in contradiction to what we have confirmed so far.
Now, I could be wrong, because I am not all knowing, nor am I perfect.
I am not going to slam this down anyone’s throat, nor am I going to atrtack those who think differently than me. What I do know is humanity is in severe need for a paradigm shift in thinking, or they better quit having children if they wish to continue on the path we’re on. I do feel it is time for this idea or something similar(preferably better if possible) but I haven’t seen one yet. In any case, I hope what I have written makes those who read it think, not necessarily like me, just think, because we are running out of time.
If you don’t believe me, that is okay, I won’t be offended. If you can find something that better explains existance, I am all ears! thanks for your time, best wishes, and live long and prosper!
Oh Man! You made me really happy!
I swear on my little hippocampus that I arrived at the same conclusions a few years ago, and I haven’t gotten any further since then as I haven’t found any theory as compelling and elegant as this. And I was delighted by the fact that it was embeded in a real theory in 2004. This is called
the One Mind Model of phenomenal or observed reality
(Germine, 2004).
I totally agree with your idea even though I have to gladly admit that yours is more elaborate, especially when you said that our “purpose” might be to learn and pass information exactly like neurons, at a more simple level, do. Is a wonderful point the one you made about the intimate relation between a mind and its thoughts. The thoughts wouldn’t exist without the mind that generates them and a mind wouldn’t exist without its thoughts. It’s both fantastically puzzling and beautifully simple at the same time.
There is one addition I could make to your thinking…It’s about infinity.
Maybe it’s your first point but I’m not sure.
I can not except the concept of finite, I can not picture a different configuration from the one that implies infinity.
I can’t “understand” infinity (of course not) but I could not except
the concept of a finite reality, it just doesn’t sound right.
It doesn’t really matter to me if research has estimated the total amount of energy from which our universe is made of. My instinct or intuition suggests me differently.
I was younger when I read Sofia’s World, it contains a simple great suggestion. Sofia realises to be the character of a book. Her conclusion, which is in reality the conclusion of the writer who wrote the book she is in, is that the writer himself is a character too, Jostein Gaarder’s(the author of the Sofia’s World) character and the implication is that we are “characters” of the book we are in.
It’s totally matching your idea of us being part of a bigger and wider consciousness that, here is the extension, is the simple component of a wider mind itself an so on so forth. The only difference is that the writer of Jostein Gaarder is aware of creating his characaters while in our reality we are not aware of creating our thoughts, or at least we don’t consider our individual thoughts to be “alive”.
We can better except the existence of an infinite universe if we reconsider the tangibility of space-time.
It is about the uncertainty principle, to make a long story short I am referring to the fact that the wave-function collapses when observed. Consciousness, observation, allows reality to take place, otherwise it would stay as it is always when we are not there to witness it, just a probability.
Still I consider myself atheist as I don’t believe there is a “creator” in the sense of a god looking at us and I don’t believe our consciousness stays in one piece when we die. If one of your neurons dies it’s gone… other neurons take it’s function and your brain doesn’t loose that information.
Well I hope that what I wrote made some sense.
Thank you for your attention and live long and prosper you too:)
Ps: Guys if I wrote some inaccuracy please don’t insult me.
Hi Manuel. Isn’t it interesting that an atheist and a spiritualist can agree that if there is a god, it is not overlooking our individual lives. Now how do we get everyone else on board?
Take care, and best wishes.
Despite the fact that I am totally atheist I have to say that I am not impressed.
Are they trying to prove that god doesn’t exist in two minutes?
That’s quiet ambitious.
in first 2 minutes of the film i counted more than 10 lies 🙂
in first 2 minutes of the film i counted more than 10 lies 🙂
in first 2 minutes of the film i counted more than 10 lies 🙂
Thanks for confirming what I was trying to convey to others. For those with limited knowledge, clips like this one can be misleading and dangerous.
Awesome! A must see video for the superstitious and blind.
Great job!
I must say that I`m stunned , I travel most of the world from the USA , Europa , Asia
I can`t believe that so many people live in a delusion of some kind of god ,
I think that the idea of a GOD is just a tool to control people with fear ,(for eternal live)
I ask a christian , what would you be if you where born in asia , or a muslim what if you where born in Europe or a other place ?
so your religion if you happen to believe in any is just random luck of the place you are born or given by your parents , and not your choice ,
and to finish my post , I never met a atheist that was aggressive with me , but man did I had very
Aggressive believers when I question there ideology .
one thing is sure for me , and that is
there is NO thing like GOD , it is a man made idea just like snow white ,
You are just another unlearned individual who know nothing about science or the Bible or even evolution, but use science to say that God doestn’t exist. If you’re going to bash something get your spelling right first. There are alot of errors in your writing. If you studied evolution you would see that it is a lie, but it would be easier for people like you to be lazy and have other people do it and trust their judgement and opinion instead of studying it for your damn self. You are going by “hear say,” not by what you learned yourself. I studied some evolution. I know it could not have happened. And some people don’t believe in God, but God is not one to reveal himself to anyone unless you obey his instructions first and believe it or not it comes from the Bible. It’s not in his nature to simply reveal himself without someone obeying him first. That is why alot of people believe he doesn’t exist. If you believe he doesn’t exist and he really does exist, then you are screwed, because you’re going to Hell. And Charles Darwin was a preacher of the Bible before he became a “turn- coat ” with evolution, and before he died he wanted a christian type burial. This is true information. Look it up. It might be a shock to you because people have been hiding this information about him inorder to strengthen evolution.
@738_justice,
If you knew your grammar there would be a comma after the word individual in your first line.
You then make a huge presumption on another persons knowledge of science… Do I know if you know a lot about science, do you?
Are you joking when your write, “there are a lot of errors in your writing” as a complete sentence – it’s a fragment.
Having destroyed your iniitial premise which presupposes that you are of a higher intellectual ilk than another – everything else you say doesn’t need to be disputed.
Oh, your use of charachterization and generalization is a classic sign that you have had little to very little education, also the faults which you are projecting about another are the ones you are unable to accept about yourself.
For example have you taken the time to study evolution in the way you suggest others should study the bible?
Bye bye
The only error I’m seeing is yours. You openly admit that you studied SOME evolution, yet you claim to know that it is a lie. I’d say that your religion has turned your mind to mush.
Scientists have been trying to prove evolution for over 100 years, and even with todays techonolgy, it is still not proven.
Bull-feces. The “theory” of evolution is compiled of proven scientific facts showing the steps that have been taken by literally thousands of species. What has not been proven is the hypothesis that the existence of any of the thousands of man’s imaginary gods has ever or will ever exist, yours included.
If, as you claim, you actually went to college, then you should already know that the oldest book in the world is most definitely NOT the bible.
You know..something I really despise people who LIE to prove their point. Go look it up right now in a library or on google and you will see that The BIBLE IS THE OLDEST BOOK EVER WRITTEN. Put it in a search engine. Go to a library. Ask somebody. Whatever you choose and you get the same answer. You need to go study evolution instead of making blind statements in which there is no rational whatsoever. There is nothing scientific about evolution. Natural selection is not science. Its common sense. Say for example, you have two people with blue eyes and they conceive a child together. Naturally, if the trait or gene for blue eyes in each parent is more dominant over the trait for brown eyes that each parent has, then the child will naturally have blue eyes. The same goes for example if you have a species of land mammals. If having a certain trait helps some members in the species survive over the others that don’t, logically only the ones with that trait will survive. Common sense. It doesn’t mean in the way evolution claims that traits will continue to mutate untill they develop gills and be able to breath in water. And become a different species, with each gender male and female having sex organs entirely different from the original land mammals they started as. It is ridiculus. Complete nonesense. A few people might believe this because they are not educated and some scientists force themselves to believe in a theory that they know was never proven and preach it as if it was.
So that makes you a self-loather, heh? The bible is not the oldest book ever written. As for rationale, let us all know when you find some. You need it.
the burden of proof is on those who claim that something IS. not to those who do not believe it is there. Same way a court of law works.
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I studied some evolution, I know it could not have happened”
How did you come to that conclusion from studying “some” of it? and your telling/preaching to someone about “getting his facts right”?
hows about you read the rest of if and open your eyes.
Evolution would defy the laws of science itself if it had happened. If you went to college like myself and studied it you would know it is false. A random occurance could not create the perfect order or intelligence that the animals exhibit or even that of humans. Everything is in harmony. Evolution defy science itself. Professors in the subject cannot come up with even one simple thing that validify it. They push for it because they don’t want to humble themselves and acknowledge that there is a God.
You obviously have not studied it then. Multiple tests and research has been done on the subject, and the random occurance is not impossible. You can actually test abiogenesis in your own home and watch life form from said experiment. Granted it’s not exactly as how it would of happened or exactly what existed, but the process works, tests have been conducted and are pretty damn spot on. And evolution defying science, the world being harmonious and orderly? Bullshit, the universe is utterly chaotic, and evolution is very possible, which shows you have little scientific understanding if you pass it off as impossible. There is so much backing behind it, and you offer no evidence as to why it is impossible, showing your lack of understanding and therefore tearing your own argument apart. And you seem to assume you know how the universe again with “a random occurance could not create..”. Please, do educate us on your unquestionably correct knowledge of the universe’s origins.
The thing is, no one knows, no matter what belief they originate from. You have little knowledge on evolution, and try to claim it as unwillingness to submit to the idea of God. With all the research and information on the subject, the theory of evolution is widely accepted by many scientific minds across the globe because of its realistic approach and the evidence it shows in the world today. I suggest you go and educate yourself on the subject, then return and explain to us why exactly it is impossible. I’m not saying it is completely correct, but you have little reason to claim the idea that it just couldn’t work.
I have plenty of knowledge about evolution. I studied it in college. I cannot accept something that was never proven. Evolution is only a theory. Why is that so hard for people to understand? A theory that is extremely far from being proven. My college professor believed in evolution and even he had to admit it is very far from being proven. The statement you made about tests being conducted is complete nonesense. This tells me you probably never graduated high school, because any basic science course would teach you that life cannot form out of thin air. The same way the claims about evolution wants you to think. That in itself not only defys logic, but also science. Evolution wants you to think life formed out of thin air. If there is nothing living to begin with there can be no life after it. According to evolution life started with none living objects. However, you can’t choose objects because essentially life is still coming out of thin air.Evolution was never something to be believed. Only thought about. A theory and nothing more. A random occurance is exactly what evolution claims to be. To answer your other question about universe origins. Perhaps the truth is already revealed, but some people will not believe it because they see it as a lie. Society makes them see it as a lie by what it teaches them. You are only a product of your environment. People are not born into this world with these ideas or any ideas unless they are taught. Therefore we have to make sure what we believe is true. What if you are wrong and you end up in Hell for all eternity? You can only be wrong once. The problem is there are too many belief systems out there and it muffles the real one. Anyone who accepts evolution ignore scientific principles. Some scientists don’t want to live with the fact that they have no answer for man’s origin, so they force themselves to believe it.
Evolution is only hard to prove because it is something that occurs over thousands of years. And there is a lot more evidence supporting evolution than “All life came from Adam and Eve” bullsh*t. Maybe you should look up how similar homosapien DNA is to that of Apes. And you don’t sound intelligent enough to know what homosapien even means so I will clarify this for you – it means humans.
A scientific theory comes from evidence, and the theory is based around the scientists findings. The more puzzle pieces they find, the more accurate and provable the theory becomes. Even things that have been proven scientifically are still called “theories”. You claim to have studied evolution in college / university? So what? I studied theology at university and I’m not going to pretend I know everything about Eastern Vedic religions. The theory of evolution is made up of many different sciences; Genetics, Bio-geography, Morphology, Paleontology and many other sciences. Me thinks no matter what someone tries to teach you about the theory of evolution, you’ll still turn around and say “nope, it’s impossible, can’t have happened.”
By the way, life didn’t / doesn’t come from thin air. I’d get a refund from this college of yours if that’s the sort of rubbish they teach.
You’re a fool if you say “Evolution is a lie.” explain how micro-organisms that cause cold’s, flu’s, virus’s, etc. adapt to new medication and form immunities, in which case new antibiotics and medications are needed to be created. That’s a very simplistic, CLASSIC case of evolution. Again look at humans. We used to be slightly above 5 ft tall, as well as only 150ish lbs. Now look at people. There are people 7ft tall in the world. Evolution only describes how things change over time. Things have and are and will continue to change over time. If you fail to see how things have been changing, even probably over your short lifetime, you’re blind, and a fool.
lmmfao .. evolution is a lie .. desighn could be possible if you look at what we are doing in microbiology now .. but to say somthing poofed in history fully formed … is true idiocy .. i know i cant spell .. i know im not a collage punk .. i only grad from highschool .. but i can plainly see the super holes in any religen
i like how you bash him for using “hear say” as means to build his opinion! what is the bible then?? or quran??
are they not themselves big books of “hear say”?
have they got any evidence to prove that what they say is true?
i personally hope theres no god because he sounds to me like the worst dictator imaginable! follow me or go to hell!, praise me or go to hell!, anyone or anything that would send someone to eternal torture for not spending there lives praising them is evil beyond discription!
and even if darwin’s theory is bullshit that doesn’t mean anything other than the fact we DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DIE!!
and anyone who claims they do is only basing their belief on what they think instead of what they know.
ok i’m an atheist, but i respect that you have a right to your beliefs aslong you you give me the same respect. now that that is out of the way.
no the bible/the existence of god has not been proved false, nor has evolution, they are both just theories. however one theory was thought of by a primitive mankind about 2000 years ago, the other was thought up by a modern mankind, using evidence from the earth we live on (ie fossils).
can i just ask, if the garden of eden existed, (as the bible says it existed on earth) where is it, surely it or traces of it would still be here for us to investigate.
The Bible is the oldest book ever written. It mentions lands like Jordan, Palestine, Eygypt, Jeruselem to name a few, which exists today. Trace the Jewish bloodline. This will lead right to the Bible’s authenticity. It is recorded in their records that there was a man named Jesus. In fact, scientists who study evolution know that there was a man named Jesus. While studying evoultion they bump into many facts that prove the Bible’s authenticity, but they ignore them. Yet they cannot come up with a single thing that prove evolution to be factual. However, the one fact they cannot lie over is Jesus. The evidence of Jesus’s existence is too strong. If you think about evolution you would realize it contradicts the laws science. It could not happen naturally. Life cannot come out of thin air. No matter what anyone tells you. And this is just one reason. According to evolution bacteria was the first living organisms, but bacterias are living life forms. They can’t come out of thin air either. Bacterias consumes nourishment to sustain themselves and secrete waste matter just like any living thing. Evolution wants you to believe they came out of thin air. Although it is impossible, lets say it happened. We would not have the diversity of life or the perfect order we have today. The only thing this world would have is those same bacteria we started with.The same result you would see in nature right now.
Hey Mark,
I think that ignorance is what leads to aggressive behavior. Most atheist are not aggressive when they debate because their beliefs are based on scientific knowledge.
I’m a student in France in an unique undergraduate system called Special Mathematics, it is basically the most common way to become a military officer, civilian or military pilot, or any type of engineer. But, for a lucky few, it is also the main way to become what is called a Normalien, supposedly the “best scientific researchers” in France. Yet many of these to-be scientist I basically live with, are fierce Catholics believers. And all of them are great to debate with, they are never aggressive and all agree that religion is a cultural aspect of their lives and that any faith is good faith.
don’t speak for something you have no knowledge of…….. have u ever read the bible or quran???
no and we don’t have to read them
Have you ever read harry potter or twilight? Magic is for real and so is vampires and werewolves.
speak your knowledge … tell the truth about how the quran teaches hate .. .. its just silly to claim to kill in any gods name … lmmfao ..
watch this to understand why evolution FAILS MISERABLY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H9qtMXamo8
HAHAH QUOTE “I ultimately found that religion, faith and scripture lacked any true
answers, especially in the (bright) light of scientific discovery and
the truth of Evolution by Natural Selection”
WAHT TRUTH ??? This is a joke
..I want to know how “Natural Selection” .. which by the nature of it flipping name implies a “reduction” not “addition” can explain evolution ? Selecting something means (pay attention) taking something THAT ALREADY EXISTS … and selecting from it . If you believe in garbage science that is world wide recognised as the holy grail the you are BLIND PEOPLE
. Nbr. 2 one of evolutions rules is that it goes from small to large … what happened to the flipping dinosaurs then ? they shrunk in the sea water ?
Thats what you people should ask yourself , basic simple though processes that have been contensted by quite a few for many years all explained in the bible by the way .
WATCH WALTER VEITH and learn !!!
HAHAH QUOTE “I ultimately found that religion, faith and scripture lacked any true
answers, especially in the (bright) light of scientific discovery and
the truth of Evolution by Natural Selection”
WAHT TRUTH ??? This is a joke
..I want to know how “Natural Selection” .. which by the nature of it flipping name implies a “reduction” not “addition” can explain evolution ? Selecting something means (pay attention) taking something THAT ALREADY EXISTS … and selecting from it . If you believe in garbage science that is world wide recognised as the holy grail the you are BLIND PEOPLE
. Nbr. 2 one of evolutions rules is that it goes from small to large … what happened to the flipping dinosaurs then ? they shrunk in the sea water ?
Thats what you people should ask yourself , basic simple though processes that have been contensted by quite a few for many years all explained in the bible by the way .
WATCH WALTER VEITH and learn !!!
LOL @ Magic Mormon Unmentionables.
Thanks for the laugh! I haven’t laughed like that since the proverbial day that Granny got her boobs caught in the ringer washer! I’ll never look at Mitt Romney the same way again. Is he wearing those funny undies beneath his $4000 suits? Do they show up on airport body scans? Where I’m from we wear LINGERIE. If I lose my last marble & convert to this dingbat faith, can I get a Corset of the Covenant, a Blessed Balconette or a Jarretiere of Jehosaphat? I’ll accept unbleached silk…Why would one need a card (day pass) to purchase these in the 1st place? I bet that, in the fine print, the card reads BOARD CERTIFIED MORON
In this particular documentary, The Flying Spaghetti monster was depicted for the christian God, and Im not Christian, So you Def have some thinking to do, If you are defending a Documentary that rather then talk about Atheism, the fundamentals behind it and what it means to be an atheist, They talk about why christians in particular should feel stupid for believing and practicing their religion. If they didn’t call this The Thinking Atheist and maybe called it The Crazy Christian, then I could understand where this was coming from, But to call this Atheism?? There wasn’t One thing in the movie that shed light on what it means to be an atheist , only how stupid it is to be Christian. Maybe you do have some thinking to do.
Unlike religion, atheism isn´t an active process or an alternative mindset. It is a cessation of energy-wasting activities, energy which may be put to better use elsewhere in your life. Nor, I might add, is it a rejection – for it to be a rejection there must be something against which to rebel. I am an atheist in the same way I dont believe in Santa Claus. It is hardly something I think a lot about, or which occupy my time. I am a non-smoker, but the act of not smoking is not something I think about. You see what I´m getting at?
So to describe an atheist – and what it means to be one – is an almost non-question. An atheist is simply a person, any person, grown up and out of childish misconceptions and simplifications. The atheist lives his or her life just like anyone else, but do no longer have the psychological need for a cosmic pacifier. Instead, the atheist acknowledges his/her own responsibility in life, and make his/her own moral choices.
Unlike religion, atheism isn´t an active process or an alternative mindset. It is a cessation of energy-wasting activities, energy which may be put to better use elsewhere in your life. Nor, I might add, is it a rejection – for it to be a rejection there must be something against which to rebel. I am an atheist in the same way I dont believe in Santa Claus. It is hardly something I think a lot about, or which occupy my time. I am a non-smoker, but the act of not smoking is not something I think about. You see what I´m getting at?
So to describe an atheist – and what it means to be one – is an almost non-question. An atheist is simply a person, any person, grown up and out of childish misconceptions and simplifications. The atheist lives his or her life just like anyone else, but do no longer have the psychological need for a cosmic pacifier. Instead, the atheist acknowledges his/her own responsibility in life, and make his/her own moral choices.
Unlike religion, atheism isn´t an active process or an alternative mindset. It is a cessation of energy-wasting activities, energy which may be put to better use elsewhere in your life. Nor, I might add, is it a rejection – for it to be a rejection there must be something against which to rebel. I am an atheist in the same way I dont believe in Santa Claus. It is hardly something I think a lot about, or which occupy my time. I am a non-smoker, but the act of not smoking is not something I think about. You see what I´m getting at?
So to describe an atheist – and what it means to be one – is an almost non-question. An atheist is simply a person, any person, grown up and out of childish misconceptions and simplifications. The atheist lives his or her life just like anyone else, but do no longer have the psychological need for a cosmic pacifier. Instead, the atheist acknowledges his/her own responsibility in life, and make his/her own moral choices.
Unlike religion, atheism isn´t an active process or an alternative mindset. It is a cessation of energy-wasting activities, energy which may be put to better use elsewhere in your life. Nor, I might add, is it a rejection – for it to be a rejection there must be something against which to rebel. I am an atheist in the same way I dont believe in Santa Claus. It is hardly something I think a lot about, or which occupy my time. I am a non-smoker, but the act of not smoking is not something I think about. You see what I´m getting at?
So to describe an atheist – and what it means to be one – is an almost non-question. An atheist is simply a person, any person, grown up and out of childish misconceptions and simplifications. The atheist lives his or her life just like anyone else, but do no longer have the psychological need for a cosmic pacifier. Instead, the atheist acknowledges his/her own responsibility in life, and make his/her own moral choices.
Now, that’s a thoughtful response. But who cares about logic and rationality when we have the other side we need to beat up on. It’s amazing how long high school state of mind lingers in people.
its kinda dumb
While there is some good humor in this, which should be taken lightly and with good heart, there is definitely some factual errors. (Einstein was not an athiest) More importantly, the debate between science and religion is rediculous. Science(provable) and religion(unprovable) are different sides of the same coin trying to explain existance. Since existance is composed by both the provable and unprovable,(uncertainty principal) neither explanation soley in itself can be correct. In other words, absence of proof is not proof of absence. It is for this reason, this documentary is 1 dimensional regarding the ‘thinking’ aspect. The only thing this doc proves, is that it’s creators have no faith in uncertainty. I guess they just don’t like adventure in the unknown. (you can’t see the air, but it fills your lungs none the less)
Why are you making a comment here? If you are religious and not willing to accept the truths that science has given us then why watch this documentary? Keep you faith, or more importantly delusion, and click on the section for documentaries about religion in future. It has no place here among the thinking atheists….
To answer your question, I made a comment to give an opinion like everyone else regarding the topic. I get the impression you don’t like the idea of accepting the fact that the men who gave you the science were not athiests. Einstein, Galileo, Newton, Corparnicus to name a few were all religious individuals. If you find the truth unpalatable, and your position is so weak that it can’t stand the test of debate, that is your dilemma and limitation, not mine, and gives you no right to decide who is allowed to express their opinion. Besides, I don’t recall saying anything in my previous blog about myself being of the religious persuasion. Since you prefer to infer instead of trying to undertand the point I was trying to convey, it is obvious that ‘thinking’ is not primary to your intellectual toolset. (something to consider) Either way, best wishes to you, and live long and prosper. If you can;t learn to be nice, then live and die in ignorance!
As somebody who is undertaking a masters in Cognitive Brain Imaging can assure you that my intellectual ‘toolset’ is we equipped when it comes to thinking. Your first comment was ranting about factual errors when you had made factual errors yourself – you can see air, for example. Oh and FYI if you are going to try and undermine somebody’s intelligence: learn to type properly.
haha nice work PP, and i am sure you will make an excellent CBI scientist.
The other retard above you will of course never achieve anything in life.
peace.
PSW
Crap, I liked your comment by mistake, please don’t think that more than one person likes what you said. I just wanted to say that you have misused the term ‘uncertainty principle’. This can apply to quantum physics, as a way of explaining how, for example, an electron may be both particle and wave but by us devising an experiment to look at it, will have to choose sides. It was never intended as a way to ‘prove’ the existence of God. Please don’t use scientific terms as a way of passing off mythology as fact. It’s really annoying. Thank you.
Hi Christine. For the record, I wasn’t using the ‘uncertainty principle’ to prove the existance of god.( On the contrary) There is no scientific explanation to quantify an atheist view anymore then you will find one to support a religious view. Secondly, nowhere in my blog did I state that I support a religious perspective. The Heisenberg ‘uncertainty principle’ is founded on the idea of probability. Only things larger than the Plank scale can be determined with certainty, anything below this scale can only be assigned a level of probability, because there is no way to incorporate the observer or any form of measurement without corrupting the results. When you are not looking, it is waves of potentiality, when you are looking, it is a particle of certainty. This is confirmed with the ‘double slit experiment ‘. Since you have confused the two different scientific premises is likely why you misinterpreted my initial blog. Ultimately, there is no ‘thinking’ involved when anyone takes a stand of certainty about something that can’t be confirmed either way. Perhaps you should go back and read my original blog again before you pass judgement and imply something I did not say, nor speak about science that you apparently don’t understand. Either way, best wishes, and live long and prosper!
Einstein was an atheist. He would have never accepted the idea that there were any type of all knowing, miracle working, supreme deity in the sky. You’re probably just another typical creationist misinterpreting specific quotes of him.. Also, what debate between science and religion? Science is not out to prove old stories wrong, because it doesn’t have to. The fact that there’s no evidence or necessity for a god leaves no reason to believe that there is one. There’s absolutely no reason to even challenge the idea because there’s nothing observable that can support it. Even so, it’s not up to science to disprove anything about it. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, meaning the burden of proof is on the believers. Until then, the world of science has no reason to even consider them. The religious folk may be out attacking science, discarding scientific facts as an excuse not to question their outrageous beliefs, but not vice versa. And why should anyone have “faith” in uncertainty? Adventure into the unknown? If I’m going to dedicate my life to such things, I’m going to make sure that they at least exist. If you don’t care if your beliefs are true then I guess having faith in uncertainty is fine, but many of us do care. Finally, we CAN see air, we have REASON to believe that there is air, and we can PROVE that there is air. Air is observable. We can even explain everything that’s found in air. That’s such a lame reason to be comfortable believing in something that you “can’t see”. It’s like you’ve read up on all of the arguments from the religious side that oppose atheism and science, but have no desire to actually learn about the scientific topics or explanations. What is that solving?
….because we should dedicate ourselves purely to Rationalism!
Wait-didn’t the French try that out during the “Enlightenment”?
How did that turn out again?
All that rationalism and atheism ended in…the Cult of Reason, a period of slaughter, blood-thirstiness and mob rule so horriffic that to this day it’s known as “The Terror”. I’ll sit that one out.
You can find me in my mystical, faith-based, senses-oriented, emotionally experienced Roman Catholic Church- i’ll be in the same pew with gregor mendel, rojer bacon, nicolaus copernicus, albertus mgnus and giovanni battista. 😉
I’ll go with Jesus too. Everything else is bullshit. There is no knowledge apart from Him, there is no reason apart from Him, there is nothig apart from Him. St John the Evangelist didn’t exaggerate in the beggining of his Gospel;
All things were made by Him, and without Him was not anything made that was made.
Hi Betty. I am curious, do you know what a metaphor is? (parts of my blog!) I admit it is a good thing you are an atheist, because there is way to many people all ready in religion taking the bible or Kuran literally. I respect your right to an opinion, but I will gaurantee you that my knowledge of special and general relativity, and quantum mechanics far outweighs yours. I am not saying this to be insulting or rude, I am just stating a fact likely due to our diffference in age and education.(maybe I’m wrong) I have studied the science for over 25 years vigorously. With that said, don’t take my word for it. Many of the scientists that created the same science that you profess to support were religious individuals, yet there was no conflict in them personally regarding this issue. I for one can’t cherry pick the parts of Einstein, Galileo, Newton, or Corparnicus as scientific geniuses, yet dismiss the individuals themselves as crazy religious zealots. Perhaps they were right on both counts, but since there is no way to prove the unprovable,(uncertainty) I guess we will each have to decide for ourselves what we believe. Either way, good luck finding a scientific premise to support an atheist perspective, because you won’t find one, anymore than you will discover one to support a religious view. Sounds like uncertainty to me. For the record, I am not religious, yet if this is what you got from my blog, perhaps you should read it again. Best wishes, and live long and prosper!
Hi
I made a mess with the comment and the one above was supposed to be for you, Ill be happy if you give it a look.
It looks very egocentric just because there is too much space between the sentences, I don’t know why… It takes a lot of space, I m sorry
Thanks
Hi Manuel. I am assuming your blog was the one under the name clix. If it is, I respect what you said. When a person studies Einstein indepth, the most accurate representation is to say that he was a spiritual individual, not religious, but most don’t distinguish a difference. When approaching physics, he would ask himself, “did god have any choice in how he created the universe?” When debating Neils Bohr regarding quantum mechanics, he would reply, “god doesn’t throw dice”, because he didn’t like the idea of chance in it’s creation. As he told a close associate, ‘ I can’t dismiss a religious perspective, because human understanding is impotent in certain area of investigation’. In that sense, his position is agnostic by definition. Ultimately, as you quoted, he believed in a higher form of life, but not some personal god overlooking his every action. From the responses I have received from my initial blog, it would seem to me that the atheists are as fanatical as the religious zealots regarding something that can never be proven. It would be nice if people could express their different opinions without all the judgemental attitude and nasty remarks. To me, that is usually a sign that they are not so secure in their beliefs as they would have everyone believe. Either way, besh wishes to you, and live long and prosper!
By the way, your response is fantastic 🙂
He is essentially telling the likes of you to, ahhem, grow up. It is entirely understandable to rebel against the indoctrination of your earlier years. It is entirely irrational to maintain such stance as a measured and conclusive response about the unknown. In fact, it is as irrational as that of a personal God who concerns himself with my daily actions.
He is essentially telling the likes of you to, ahhem, grow up. It is entirely understandable to rebel against the indoctrination of your earlier years. It is entirely irrational to maintain such stance as a measured and conclusive response about the unknown. In fact, it is as irrational as that of a personal God who concerns himself with my daily actions.
This has many misleading facts. -whose doing the thinking here!?
Def agree that this is anti-christian, I am not religious and I believe in science and evolution, however, I don’t believe it’s right to refer to the Christians “GOD” as “The Flying Spaghetti monster”. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs and this seems rather counter productive if we are trying to prove science over divine creation.
You’re totally confused. The Flying Spaghetti Monster is not a name for Christians’ god, its a secular metaphor for believing in ANY god without basis. Who dictates the shape of an imaginary being? So, why not believe in Pasta? That’s the point of the so called ‘Pastafarian’ movement. So you can pull the stick out of your impressionable, closed-minded Christian butt.
As for all the other ACTUAL attacks on Christianity in these shorts, they are totally based on fact and you know it, that’t why you posted this instead of an actual legitimate argument. Maybe someone has a little thinking to do?
You’re totally confused. The Flying Spaghetti Monster is not a name for Christians’ god, its a secular metaphor for believing in ANY god without basis. Who dictates the shape of an imaginary being? So, why not believe in Pasta? That’s the point of the so called ‘Pastafarian’ movement. So you can pull the stick out of your impressionable, closed-minded Christian butt.
As for all the other ACTUAL attacks on Christianity in these shorts, they are totally based on fact and you know it, that’t why you posted this instead of an actual legitimate argument. Maybe someone has a little thinking to do?
You’re totally confused. The Flying Spaghetti Monster is not a name for Christians’ god, its a secular metaphor for believing in ANY god without basis. Who dictates the shape of an imaginary being? So, why not believe in Pasta? That’s the point of the so called ‘Pastafarian’ movement. So you can pull the stick out of your impressionable, closed-minded Christian butt.
As for all the other ACTUAL attacks on Christianity in these shorts, they are totally based on fact and you know it, that’t why you posted this instead of an actual legitimate argument. Maybe someone has a little thinking to do?
You’re totally confused. The Flying Spaghetti Monster is not a name for Christians’ god, its a secular metaphor for believing in ANY god without basis. Who dictates the shape of an imaginary being? So, why not believe in Pasta? That’s the point of the so called ‘Pastafarian’ movement. So you can pull the stick out of your impressionable, closed-minded Christian butt.
As for all the other ACTUAL attacks on Christianity in these shorts, they are totally based on fact and you know it, that’t why you posted this instead of an actual legitimate argument. Maybe someone has a little thinking to do?
In this particular documentary, The Flying Spaghetti monster was depicted for the christian God, and Im not Christian, So you Def have some thinking to do, If you are defending a Documentary that rather then talk about Atheism, the fundamentals behind it and what it means to be an atheist, They talk about why christians in particular should feel stupid for believing and practicing their religion. If they didn’t call this The Thinking Atheist and maybe called it The Crazy Christian, then I could understand where this was coming from, But to call this Atheism?? There wasn’t One thing in the movie that shed light on what it means to be an atheist , only how stupid it is to be Christian. Maybe you do have some thinking to do.
This isn’t “atheist” at all. This is anti-Christian. Without Christianity there wouldn’t have been any content to this at all. Weak documentary, weak title. Show me a documentary about atheism that doesn’t spend time bashing Christianity of all religions. As a matter of fact I’ve only met one real atheist; someone who didn’t believe in anything supernatural or paranormal and didn’t want to discuss religion or anti-religion for any reason let alone to bash Christianity.
Anti-Chritianism: It only seems that way, because most of the folks behind the thinking aetheist are american/canadian or eurpeon, were born in the christian religion and are surrounded by christians. I think that Muslims, Budhists, Hindus, Zorastrians and others have not received much attention but those religions are just as irrational and superstitious.
I don’t think atheists object to people believing in irrational and unprovable things like fairies and unicorns, they object to these ideas being trotted as scientific facts or the religionists driving the public policy agenda on matters of universal importance.
that’s your judgement……. a bias one that is…. have u ever read other holy scriptures?????
maybe you should read more than just silly books written by people thousands of years ago about fairytale men in the sky..
There is nothing to learn from any religious scriptures other than they are for people many hundreds of years ago who thought the earth was flat the earth was the center of the universe and the earth is only 6k years old..
no run along my child and try preach BS to people with a low enough IQ who will fall for it.
Well said, you nailed it, your obviously on the ball!
You’ve only met one real atheist? You should get out more 🙂 As for bashing christians, given the ridiculousness of their beliefs it does have some of the flavour of kicking a man when he’s down. Nonetheless, it’s still quite enjoyable! While no documentary comes to mind, for a detailed discussion of philosophical questions concerning atheism, I suggest “Arguing for Atheism” by Robin Le Poidevin. No christians are abused therein.
I’m kicking a man who’s trying to take over my government who believes in sky pixies and rainbow ponies instead of healthcare and cutting military spending.
I’m kicking a man who’s trying to take over my government who believes in sky pixies and rainbow ponies instead of healthcare and cutting military spending.
I’m kicking a man who’s trying to take over my government who believes in sky pixies and rainbow ponies instead of healthcare and cutting military spending.
I’m kicking a man who’s trying to take over my government who believes in sky pixies and rainbow ponies instead of healthcare and cutting military spending.
i find this entertaining, albeit biased and condescending . i mean its amusing to listen too but outside of saying something like, “lol look at those crazy fundamental christians and how whacky they are” which anyone really with half a brain can work out its just a extended circle jerk of “hey its ok to think like we do guys arnt we so evolved and higher minded then those crazy christians”
I’m not sure anyone outside of Tennessee understands your analogies, how is either statement you are equating anything but your impression of what’s said in a video that offends you because you won’t take the strengths of the other side’s arguments openly and honestly?
I’m not sure anyone outside of Tennessee understands your analogies, how is either statement you are equating anything but your impression of what’s said in a video that offends you because you won’t take the strengths of the other side’s arguments openly and honestly?
If only “anyone with half a brain” could see the idiocy of fundamental christianity, the world would be a better place. 40% of the US public don’t believe in evolution and think the world is less than 10,000 years old. Moreover, these people (think Rick Perry or Texas school boards) wield considerable political influence and actively try to misinform children about the nature of reality. A greater chorus of derision, alongside exposure to the breath of evidence that runs contrary to their beliefs, might be what it needed to marginalize these people.
If only “anyone with half a brain” could see the idiocy of fundamental christianity, the world would be a better place. 40% of the US public don’t believe in evolution and think the world is less than 10,000 years old. Moreover, these people (think Rick Perry or Texas school boards) wield considerable political influence and actively try to misinform children about the nature of reality. A greater chorus of derision, alongside exposure to the breath of evidence that runs contrary to their beliefs, might be what it needed to marginalize these people.