ZERO: An Investigation into 9/11, has one central thesis – that the
official version of the events surrounding the attacks on 9/11 can not
be true. This brand new feature documentary from Italian production
company Telemaco explores the latest scientific evidence and reveals
dramatic new witness testimony, which directly conflicts with the US
Government’s account.
Featuring presentations from intellectual heavy weights; Gore Vidal,
and Nobel Prize winner Dario Fo, the film challenges assumptions
surrounding the attacks. In the words of the Italian daily newspaper,
Il Corriere de da Sera, “What results is a sequence of contradictions,
gaps, and omissions of stunning gravity.”
The importance of this film can not be overstated. If its thesis is
correct, the justification for going to war in Iraq is built on a
series of outrageous lies.
I would like to think that since the early years of some of these comments that there has been enough information put out there that would compel some to take another look with unbiased, rational eyes.
that being said, no matter how much u slice it, dice it, believe in this thought or that, still worship the original story or believe that ziggy stardust and the spiders from mars masterminded a galactic attack on the towers there is one simple fact thats says it all and the entire world needs to hear it. there is undeniable, verifiable, factual proof no matter how many times they lie or deny it that the american government absolutely knew that an attack was planned, was imminent, would use planes and would target landmarks-specifically trade center and pentagon. they were able to get away with the weakest, vaguest plausible deniability they could desparately clutch at and get away with… and they did because it crippled and distracted the mind of anyone who imagined themselves stuck for even 30 seconds in the horrific hell and terror it must have been for so many that day, especially those forced into desparate choices. our emotions were hijacked into numbly accepting the “no clue whatsoever” mantra…. but they did know, they did nothing and their silence and refusal to act makes them as complicit and as guilty as if they were piloting the planes themselves. it served their agenda of global war and domestic dominance to allow these events to happen and rather than risk losing the advantage it would provide their neocon needs by vocalizing any warnings or beefing up security that might have delayed or prevented the tragedy they chose instead to shut up and look the other way. so ok fine, sure it was these 19 terrorists and a few floors of office fire that caused all the devastation…. because the bush regime wanted it to happen and let it happen…. if that isnt them being very guilty of this crime then u may as well blame the office and airline workers for putting themselves in that position and accuse them of bringing it on themselves.
no way there would be so much dust if towers just collapsed, as someone who works in construction all my adult life, and as someone who so many demolitions and even some minor collapses i can guarantee that this collapse was helped with some explosives… all concrete in the building was pulverized instantly, i mean it is so obvious now when one can look without emotions
bin laden my ass, is there any fool around left who believes that fairy-tale? if you want to find guilty men, look closer to home
“bin laden my ass” lol, how did a caveman outsmart the best and well budged military in the world is mindboggling.
I love it when I see someone post that obvious cares enough about what has happened to educate themselves. It seems like nearly every post I see from someone that believes the official story is nothing more than a childish attack on “the crazy conspiracy theorists.” I was recently trying to educate a friend on 9/11, and he didn’t even know about the WTC7 collapse. Of course he never even knew there was a WTC7 building!!
An excellent catch there. I too have noticed some contradictory evidence in various documentaries, but the one thing to remember is: there is much scientific, indisputable evidence, as well as truck loads of other evidence to PROVE that the ‘official story’ is a LIE – PERIOD!! Please never forget that and do your best to educate everyone that you can.
After Rodriguez’s interview the Documentary should have pointed that their is an actual tape recording of an explosion and then 9 seconds later a second explosion. It is called the Liberty Plaza recording of a business conference that was taking place in a short distance from the towers, and it picks up an explosion 9 seconds before the second explosion in which the second explosion is the first plane crashing into the tower.
This is important because it confirms Rodriguez’s statement that there was two different events about 9 seconds apart; one below the ground first, and the second event was up in the tower.
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT!
EYE 5
where IS A VERSION THAT IS IN SYNC
THE SOUND IS NOT IN SYNC WITH THE MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE’S LIPS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHERE IS A VERSION THAT IS PROFESSIONAL [THE EVIDENCE SEEMS TO BE VAILID] SO SOMEONE PUT IT ONLINE LOOKNG RIGHT
Wake up to yourselves America!! Just accept the fact that your government F*** up.
It’s too bad some Folks have one hand up their ass, another on a keyboard and their mind wandering around trying to second-guess what happened on 9/11. It is what it is. Those same conspiracy-mongerers should put some of that Geek mentality into preventing future escalation of World Violence disguised as HATE… 🙁
What is really scary is that there are actually people stupid enough to believe that the three towers (steel-framed) buildings burned down, and the federal government is NOT lying. Therein lies the fear. 90% of people outside the US, and more than half of those inside the US, know 9/11 was an inside job. Thirty minutes of research will provide more than enough information for anyone that is still confused on the subject. Of course many are too stupid to understand it, or too closed-minded to consider it. It must be horrible to little in your delusional little world in which second-guessing seems to be a bad thing. You should probably look up the definition of conspiracy also. 9/11 was a conspiracy.
This documentary is informative and I’m thankful the producers kept the pop dramatic tones relatively condensed although more could’ve been said about who had the most to gain and where this tragic event has taken us since, as a country.
My opinion is that we common people have no say or control to change the actions of the government and we don’t have the slightest idea of what the “real truth” is and never will. People don’t want to accept the ugliness perpetrated in the name of a way of life. Dead people fade the glimmer. We accept the blindness just like struggling, working-class people worship celebrities that make more in a week than their entire family will ever see in their life, beating their brains out.
Just accept it, folks, it’s not going to change.
One thing we know, with ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY, is that the ‘official story’ is a lie.
We are in a post Rieichstag fire period. Riefenstahl clones dispute this honest discourse.The plans for Austria, Poland, were already to go, like Afghanistan and Iraq. We are consolidating Iraq after destroying it, with plans and an excuse( NUkes) to attack Iran next. China and Russia threaten to oppose this as England and France opposed Hitler. These nazi’s aren’t very original. They are harpy eagles in mentality and morality and the looks on their faces is uncannily, eerily, exactly the same as Bush Cheney Obama ect. The guys really creep me out.
I’m glad, and hopeful that there are many people that see what is really going on. It’s just so disappointing to see how many total idiots we have in the US. Talk about a ‘dumbed-down’ society.
9/11 is probably this centuries JFK, And 100 years from now still there will be no more answers than there are today. These hijackers must have had family, so who exactly were they ? Starting with them, may get some answers, but the clock for truth is always counting down, soon, no further evidence will ever be found.
Sandy: “We are fools for trusting the official story.”Yes. You are. Sorry. The most patriotic thing you can do for your country is never believe a freakin thing they tell you! Please, show me where the Founding Fathers said… “trust your gov’t”.They, in fact, warned just the opposite. Remain vigilant of your gov’t and take care not to be blinded by the fires of partisanship. And if that doesn’t sway you… Please, tell me when the last time we the people were told the truth about anything by either of our two parties, much less the gov’t that we didn’t find out 30 years later was complete BS… Lastly… it’s simply a historical constant… and why the founders sought to make the seat of political power… the people. Every gov’t throughout history that has been vested with power had abused it, if not at home, then onto their neighbors… or both. Our politicians have no power, they are public servants. They are given our trust, not power. That trust, according to the founders and their wisdom derived from knowing the history and hearts of men, is to be tested at every turn… those who do not… are in fact… fools.
VERY WELL PUT!! Most people believe if their ‘team’ (Republican or Democrat) wins the big game (Election), it’s time to celebrate. They drink, dance around, and then it’s more of the same. Greed, a quest for power, lies, and a self-caused degeneration of society. When the empire finally collapses, and it will, there will still be those that have an undying faith in the government that caused it, believing they’ll fix it. IDIOTS!! I feel like I’m living in a Twilight Zone episode. People are just too stupid to see the obvious. Keep working for your $40,000/year, struggling to make ends meet, and tell me how great this shit-hole of a country is. The ideas the country was founded on, and many of the people are great, but the federal government, or at least those that control it, are cowardly, greedy, war-mongering delusional little men.
I enjoyed it up to the bit where the foreign guy starts laughing and smiling while he is explaining the towers coming down. You can believe whatever you like, everyone should have respect and know that a lot of innocent lives were lost.
This is a message for all you agent provocateurs and information deciminators: there are many of us who have logic. We can identify a fallacy when it is used rhetorically. If you are going to use these ruses at least have some respect for the audience that might read what you have written. It’s not very hard to find out who you are ya know. Calling you names like traitorous pricks is just using an ad homenem fallacy to attack your character, not a fact based premise that will stand the scrutiny of observable fact. I read the posts here and the majority of the arguments against this films premises are fallacious in one way or another. Remember, there are adults watching.
ten minutes and already there are two typical claims which are completely wrong, the towers were obviously built to withstand the impact from a plane which has slowed down to land but has hit the towers in thick fog and not one which was travelling at full speed. Force = mass x accelation squared which basicly means that accelaration is the decellaration when the plane impacts the building. The claim that it is the only steel frame building to collapse die to fire is also wrong there has been more than one.
You are wrong on every statement. I’ll let you do your own research though. I will offer this one bit of information to get you started though. The official story is that the buildings came down because of fire. So the aircraft speed wasn’t a factor. I’ll leave you with a question. How many buildings totally collapsed on 9/11?
ha ha ha ha, a conspiracy! The most powerful man in the world bill Clinton (at the time) couldnt keep one person quiet and the whole world found out but George Bush and his administration managed to keep a secret when 1000’s of people are involved?
@3195fcbc085cd895f55390173df54134:disqus The physics you claim comes from anecdotal evidence and some hit and miss forensics. If there was even a chance this was a conspiracy do you not think the entire academic world would be on this? imagine how much funding is in it for the guy who brought down an entire administration.
Is it not a big enough conspiracy that a bunch of nutcases did this in the first place?
Checkout ‘Architects & Engineers for 911 Truth.’ There’s over 1,300 highly educated people that know the truth there. Also, look at ‘Pilots for 9/11 Truth.’ Lots of military and commercial pilots there that know the truth. Lastly, look up the definition of ‘conspiracy.’ You obviously don’t know the meaning, and you’re gonna laugh at someone? You idiot.
Oh, The Laws of Physics aren’t ‘hit and miss forensics.’
I would consider getting a big person to proofread your comments.
ha ha ha ha, a conspiracy! The most powerful man in the world bill Clinton (at the time) couldnt keep one person quiet and the whole world found out but George Bush and his administration managed to keep a secret when 1000’s of people are involved?
@3195fcbc085cd895f55390173df54134:disqus The physics you claim comes from anecdotal evidence and some hit and miss forensics. If there was even a chance this was a conspiracy do you not think the entire academic world would be on this? imagine how much funding is in it for the guy who brought down an entire administration.
Is it not a big enough conspiracy that a bunch of nutcases did this in the first place?
clinton wasn;t even the president at the time?!?
Haha, and those are the ‘Conspiracy Debunkers.’ They are such fools.
Bill Clinton never was the most powerful man in the world…persons which made him a president are the most powerful men.
Btw, Stephen, I really doubt you watched this documentary…or any documentary ever. :p
To everyone else…
Even if you ignore all physics theories stated in documentary, just focus on “Pentagon case” and that would be more than enough for reasonable human being to make perfectly logical conclusion that 9/11 official explanation is nothing more but a goddamn parody.
Bill Clinton never was the most powerful man in the world…persons which made him a president are the most powerful men.
Btw, Stephen, I really doubt you watched this documentary…or any documentary ever. :p
To everyone else…
Even if you ignore all physics theories stated in documentary, just focus on “Pentagon case” and that would be more than enough for reasonable human being to make perfectly logical conclusion that 9/11 official explanation is nothing more but a goddamn parody.
Bill Clinton never was the most powerful man in the world…persons which made him a president are the most powerful men.
Btw, Stephen, I really doubt you watched this documentary…or any documentary ever. :p
To everyone else…
Even if you ignore all physics theories stated in documentary, just focus on “Pentagon case” and that would be more than enough for reasonable human being to make perfectly logical conclusion that 9/11 official explanation is nothing more but a goddamn parody.
Bill Clinton never was the most powerful man in the world…persons which made him a president are the most powerful men.
Btw, Stephen, I really doubt you watched this documentary…or any documentary ever. :p
To everyone else…
Even if you ignore all physics theories stated in documentary, just focus on “Pentagon case” and that would be more than enough for reasonable human being to make perfectly logical conclusion that 9/11 official explanation is nothing more but a goddamn parody.
I very much believe this was not a terrorist attack, but this is one of the only documentaries that contradicts itself badly. They claim many of the hijackers weren’t dead, meaning not on the planes, but then go into testimony that the U.S. had prior warning that these men were planning this so they knew it would happen. Then evidence of strange things the hijackers did before the attack and should have been noticed. Were there hijackers on the plane that should have been discovered before the fact, or are were there in fact no hijackers and the government is the sole perpetrator?
Dario Fo is given the title ‘nobel prize winner’ and shown discussing the structural integrity of the towers…. Dario Fo won the nobel prize for literature. This strikes me as purposefully misleading since people automatically assume ‘nobel prize’ means science and few would assume he wasn’t a physist. The only non-laughable attempt to bring out an ‘expert’ comes in the form of Steven Jones. However his views are so counter to 99% of all other physicists on the matter that it is hardly impressive. His thermite/thermate theories are unsupported and widely debunked. http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm
Kinda strange, well, considering the tactics of the ‘debunkers’, probably not, that you would post a link to a misinformed 9/11 debunking site as your evidence.
Ever notice that all the debunkers are trying to sell you a book? Popular Mechanics published an embarrassing debunking article in their sorry little magazine. Then they followed up with a book, and yes, a 2nd. edition of that same pitiful book.
1. Your argument is nothing but an ad hominem logical fallacy. You are saying that an author cannot claim that the Pentagon is the most protected airspace in the world, unless he is some kind of US military expert, such a US military general. In reality, only common sense and an above average IQ is required to understand the truth on this matter, even a child can tell you that the Pentagon airspace is an unreachable fortress. As for Physics, humans have evolved over millions of years to have an innate and intuitive sense of local mechanics, we intuitively see and predict in our mind’s eye what would happen if (for example) we were throw a rock onto another rock. This is called spatial-temporal reasoning and every human is born with it, it does not require a degree in Physics. We know intuitively, as well as from basic elementary school science, that it is impossible for a 110 story building to collapse onto itself at the same speed as a cannon ball in free fall falling from the same height (9 seconds). You do not need a degree in civil engineering to be sure that skyscrapers designed to withstand airplane crashes do not spontaneously collapse symmetrically onto themselves at free fall rate, and that this can only be accomplished through controlled demolition. To understand these things, all that is required is common sense and intelligence, qualities that every Literature Nobel Prize recipient must posses in abundance.
2. Dario Fo (1926-) is an Italian satirist, playwright, theater director, actor, and composer. He was awarded the 1997 Nobel Prize in Literature, with the committee highlighting him as a writer “who emulates the jesters of the Middle Ages in scourging authority and upholding the dignity of the downtrodden”. His work shows that he is eminently credible to speak about the truth of 911.
3. Dario Fo is certainly far more credible than an anonymous poster on the Internet, who for all we know could be working for the 911 cover-up operation, to try to sway public opinion on the Internet. What are your credentials? None whatsoever. What are the credentials of the people who you present as proponents of the official 911 investigation? A shady website called debunking911.com run by anonymous entities? Why is it that all these “debunkers” are anonymous, while those who seek the truth of 911 do not hide anonymously but rather are willing to make huge sacrifices, willing to be interviewed for films such as this one?
Curious, you’ve misrepresented what I’ve said, I suggest you read my comment again. I didn’t say that you have to be an expert to comment on 9-11. I said the documentary purposely misleads the audience by saying that Dario Fo is a nobel prize winner. In the context of the documentary it is only reasonable to assume this is a science based prize but in reality it is literature. I think this is dishonest.
As for your belief that everyone should be able to tell by sight what is happening due to our evolved perception of the mechanics of our environment…. that is outstandingly naive. Our perception is biased and does not always show an accurate account of reality, much of reality is in fact counter to what our intuition tells us.
As for the ridiculous claims that anyone with a view counter to your own is some kind of government shill and it’s only you and the select few with access to and ability to see the truth. This is paltry rationalization for the vast majority of the population and experts in the field disagreeing with your opinion.
Curious, you’ve misrepresented what I’ve said, I suggest you read my comment again. I didn’t say that you have to be an expert to comment on 9-11. I said the documentary purposely misleads the audience by saying that Dario Fo is a nobel prize winner. In the context of the documentary it is only reasonable to assume this is a science based prize but in reality it is literature. I think this is dishonest.
As for your belief that everyone should be able to tell by sight what is happening due to our evolved perception of the mechanics of our environment…. that is outstandingly naive. Our perception is biased and does not always show an accurate account of reality, much of reality is in fact counter to what our intuition tells us.
As for the ridiculous claims that anyone with a view counter to your own is some kind of government shill and it’s only you and the select few with access to and ability to see the truth. This is paltry rationalization for the vast majority of the population and experts in the field disagreeing with your opinion.
Curious, you’ve misrepresented what I’ve said, I suggest you read my comment again. I didn’t say that you have to be an expert to comment on 9-11. I said the documentary purposely misleads the audience by saying that Dario Fo is a nobel prize winner. In the context of the documentary it is only reasonable to assume this is a science based prize but in reality it is literature. I think this is dishonest.
As for your belief that everyone should be able to tell by sight what is happening due to our evolved perception of the mechanics of our environment…. that is outstandingly naive. Our perception is biased and does not always show an accurate account of reality, much of reality is in fact counter to what our intuition tells us.
As for the ridiculous claims that anyone with a view counter to your own is some kind of government shill and it’s only you and the select few with access to and ability to see the truth. This is paltry rationalization for the vast majority of the population and experts in the field disagreeing with your opinion.
“everyone should be able to tell by sight what is happening due to our evolved perception of the mechanics of our environment”
If you can’t tell, just by looking, that those buildings weren’t brought down by what were relatively minor office fires, then you’re got bigger problems than whether some documentary was honest or not.
1. Your argument is nothing but an ad hominem logical fallacy. You are saying that an author cannot claim that the Pentagon is the most protected airspace in the world, unless he is some kind of US military expert, such a US military general. In reality, only common sense and an above average IQ is required to understand the truth on this matter, even a child can tell you that the Pentagon airspace is an unreachable fortress. As for Physics, humans have evolved over millions of years to have an innate and intuitive sense of local mechanics, we intuitively see and predict in our mind’s eye what would happen if (for example) we were throw a rock onto another rock. This is called spatial-temporal reasoning and every human is born with it, it does not require a degree in Physics. We know intuitively, as well as from basic elementary school science, that it is impossible for a 110 story building to collapse onto itself at the same speed as a cannon ball in free fall falling from the same height (9 seconds). You do not need a degree in civil engineering to be sure that skyscrapers designed to withstand airplane crashes do not spontaneously collapse symmetrically onto themselves at free fall rate, and that this can only be accomplished through controlled demolition. To understand these things, all that is required is common sense and intelligence, qualities that every Literature Nobel Prize recipient must posses in abundance.
2. Dario Fo (1926-) is an Italian satirist, playwright, theater director, actor, and composer. He was awarded the 1997 Nobel Prize in Literature, with the committee highlighting him as a writer “who emulates the jesters of the Middle Ages in scourging authority and upholding the dignity of the downtrodden”. His work shows that he is eminently credible to speak about the truth of 911.
3. Dario Fo is certainly far more credible than an anonymous poster on the Internet, who for all we know could be working for the 911 cover-up operation, to try to sway public opinion on the Internet. What are your credentials? None whatsoever. What are the credentials of the people who you present as proponents of the official 911 investigation? A shady website called debunking911.com run by anonymous entities? Why is it that all these “debunkers” are anonymous, while those who seek the truth of 911 do not hide anonymously but rather are willing to make huge sacrifices, willing to be interviewed for films such as this one?
As impressive as your comments are, those that fall for the ‘official story’ don’t have the intellectual capacity to understand the truth of 9/11.
“That there aeroplane done ran plumb into that building, and shore as hell ’caused her to fall right down. Hand me nuther one of thoze cold brews there Buck.” lol
The documentary is informative, however in the intro here on the site it is stated “The importance of this film can not be overstated. If its thesis is
correct, the justification for going to war in Iraq is built on a
series of outrageous lies.” – My question is what does the war in Iraq have to do with it? It is well-known that the official reason for Iraq was WMD and also widely disputed. Isn’t this suppose to be Afghanistan?
The stated reasons for invading Iraq was the possibility of WMD’s, and the possibility that he (Saddam) might’ve been hiding Al-Qaeda operatives that were responsible for 9/11 attacks. It is however widely documented that army-recruiters told possible recruitees that Saddam was personally responsible for the attacks on 9/11. 9/11 created consent for something that had been set in motion 2 years earlier, but had been in the works for much much longer. What set it in motion was Saddam’s announcement to start selling his oil in Euro’s instead of dollars, just as Khadaffi was working on selling his oil in “the golden dinar”, a new African currency based on a gold standard (which would basically have instantly derailed the American economy if other countries would’ve followed suit).
The documentary is informative, however in the intro here on the site it is stated “The importance of this film can not be overstated. If its thesis is
correct, the justification for going to war in Iraq is built on a
series of outrageous lies.” – My question is what does the war in Iraq have to do with it? It is well-known that the official reason for Iraq was WMD and also widely disputed. Isn’t this suppose to be Afghanistan?
I believe the 9-11 terrorists attack were over heroin, but this was very insightful, great documentary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_mvgY9M0ws
I believe the 9-11 terrorists attack were over heroin, but this was very insightful, great documentary.
Such a scandal 😀
Anyone who denies that the US government did everything it could to cover up 911 needs their head examined. Denial of the truth is a sickness that goes far deeper than most people realize. Denial of the truth is a mental illness. Denial of the truth leads to suffering for anyone and everyone in the vicinity of the “Deniar.” “Deniars” are liars and cowards. In fact, I find it impossible to put into words how contemtible “deniars” really are. What is wrong with people who refuse to see what is plainly and clearly visible to their very own eyes? It is impossible to truthfully deny that those 3 buildings in New York City came down at free fall speed. Impossible. Yet there are obviously people in the world who refuse to accept what is clearly and plainly in clear sight. They mindlessly choose to deny what is clearly visible. There is no way of reasoning with anyone who denies that 911 was covered up by the US government. No amount of reasoning can penetrate a mind that is that closed. It’s a sickness…a mental illness…I can only make the only sane choice available to me…and that is to forgive the “deniars” for their incredible display of cowardice and fear.
I believe that the truth is something so horrible, that some people’s mind just can’t let them believe it. That a government could be complicit in the murder of 3,000 of it’s own citizens. The rest are just stupid. Even those that have a lower IQ, I believe, could understand and believe the truth if someone sat down with them and when over the physics, in a non-technical way, of the collapse of the buildings. There are also many excellent documentaries on the topic also. “September 11: The New Pearl Harbor” is a good place to start.
“Deniers” = “Conformists”
…as mostly being afraid of anything which could interrupt their life styles, no matter if majority around them lives like shit.
The very consequence is the lack of empathy. Empathy is the corner stone of human society and it decays…so the humanity decays, too.
“Deniers” = “Conformists”
…as mostly being afraid of anything which could interrupt their life styles, no matter if majority around them lives like shit.
The very consequence is the lack of empathy. Empathy is the corner stone of human society and it decays…so the humanity decays, too.
“Deniers” = “Conformists”
…as mostly being afraid of anything which could interrupt their life styles, no matter if majority around them lives like shit.
The very consequence is the lack of empathy. Empathy is the corner stone of human society and it decays…so the humanity decays, too.
I was still living in Scotland when lockerbie happened, I remember the devastation being shown on the news and in photos in the papers. It took a lot of time to clear the debris as it was scattered over such a large area.
As far as I’m concerned it wasnt a plane that hit the pentagon.
Regarding conspiracy theories, surely by the very nature they are exactly that, just theories waiting to be proved or disproved.
I find too many things about 9-11 questionable. having an enquiring mind doesnt make you a nut.
When it comes to “fact” scientist once told us the earth was flat. that was proven incorrect.
The truth will eventually come out, it may take years or decades but it will come out.
And yes, I do believe 9-11 was an inside job.
Excellent points. There was almost ZERO debris at both the Pentagon and in Shanksville. Regardless of the type of airliner crash, there is ALWAYS large pieces of the aircraft remaining. I actually saw that one idiot said the “plane” that hit the Pentagon turned into a ball of plasma inside the building, and then caused the perfectly round hole on it’s exit!! lol These are the ‘Expert Debunkers.’
I’m ‘ALMOST’ as dumbfounded to see that so many people would fall for the official story, as I am to witness the government doing something this over-the-top…even for them.
It truly is ‘1984.’ Orwell wasn’t a writer, he was a fortuneteller!! Perpetual war, tell’em how great things are as they’re getting worse, totalitarian control, it’s all here. So we’re fighting a war on terror?! Really? How will we know when it’s over? (War on Drugs) Here’s a hint. IT’LL NEVER BE OVER. THAT’S THE MASTER PLAN. Wake up people.
Strength in numbers my friends. The ONLY way to fight them is with unity. The Revolution was fought with cannons and muskets on both sides. If we tried a revolution now, it would be with cannons and muskets on our side (nearly), and tanks, machine guns, Apache helicopters, and chemical and focused-energy weapons on their side, just to name a few. We must fight with the citizens uniting as one. Anyone remember a guy named Gandhi? They still need a lot of us to do the work that they can’t, and wouldn’t do if they could.
If we could ever unite wholly, enough say to boycott McDonalds for a week, things would change instantly. They would realize the game is over. A civilized, decent people operating as one, would rule the world, and we sure as hell know how NOT to rule.
Sandy seems sensible to me, he’s not a nay sayer, just offering critical analysis . . which is the objective level that will carry the day
I really don’t understand why 9/11 conspiracy theories have persisted when they’re based on the notion that the Government had a hand in something on 9/11 that wasn’t carrying out the attacks themselves. The actual hijackers, their biographies, motives, training, planning and actions are known and indisputable.
There are a lot of JFK conspiracy theories that have survived 40 years. None of them however involve a suggestion that the government packed JFK’s skull with explosives for no apparent purpose other than to make the effect of Oswald’s actions more cinematic.
Watch “September 11: The New Pearl Harbor.” It’s long, but well worth it. I challenge any non-believer, with an IQ over about 75, to watch it and then (honestly) say that they don’t believe 9/11 was an inside job.
read a book….those conspiracy theories survive because of FACTS. do some research on Oswald, his military background, his defection to the Soviet Union, his ties to the BUSH family. you probably think the Gulf of Tonkin incident happened, too. despite documents being declassified that state that despite being fired on by US ships, the Vietnamese ships DID NOTHING. people like you are the reason the “New World Order” is surviving and thriving. go back to sleep, that’s what they want you to do.
Very well stated. Thank you.
VERY THROUGH N INFORMATIVE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_mvgY9M0ws
So Sandy straight up refuses to see the mounds of scientific evidence available online as well as reputable laboratories and decorated and acclaimed physicists as well as experts in every field needed. Welders, structural engineers, demolition experts, and yes even pilots. She totally discredits all of it, evidence from actual experts in these fields and testimony as that of conspiracy theorists and nut jobs.
You state you’ve gotten your hands on all the evidence available and you’ve come to the conclusion the official story stands. Well so have I. I got a few things to say.
1. Your a complete fucking retard if you still think steel framed buildings fall at free fall speed from fire everyday and every year. Never happened once in history and hasn’t again. Basic Physics 101, we take it in grade 9 here. Oh I’m sorry, you must have missed that class. Newtons Law cannot be changed by you or even your crazy everyday conspiracy nuts. It changed for 9/11 according to the official story you support.
2. If even 5 per cent of Americans believe this BS story the Gov has given you, even 1 iota, your not worthy to think or speak or breathe the same air as intelligent human beings. America has been dumbed down intentionally and man, you must have been 1st in line.
There is a reason intelligent people call you a sheep. Its because you are and apparently so are 300 million others that have taken this fake War On Terror with such ease. You are being used. Too bad the rest of the World understands what 9/11 was and 330 million Americans got the heads up their asses. Truth hurts, suck it up. All of ya. Truth cant be hidden forever. The day will come it wont be the ones who know the truth looking stupid.
The problem though is, if at some point in the future (let’s say 50 years for argument’s sake), the true scope of what happened on Sept 11th is revealed, what then? No-one who participated in this monstrous crime will still be alive. No-one will be held accountable. The illicit fortunes will have been made and hidden. The nation impoverished further. The institutions further corrupted and rendered impotent. For a homicide or a drunk driving conviction, the consequences are reasonably swift because the fact trail is easily confined. Crimes at Sept 11 level; monstrous, gargantuan, humungous organised crimes, are so complex, so transnational, involving so many actors both within and outside of government, many unwittingly, that any attempt to quantify/qualify the event can only ever scratch around at the surface. We simply don’t have the tools to successfully investigate and prosecute this kind of crime; and they know it. Was it Stalin who said ‘Kill one person and you’re a murderer, kill a million and you’re a conqueror.’
Yep!! Honestly, I believe at least some of them don’t want to know!! The aftermath may require effort, and Americans are all about lazy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_mvgY9M0ws
My point has nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks themselves. We will never know the absolute truth and there are idiots on both sides of the argument. I am just amused that an Italian company is questioning another countries government. How long have the Italians been letting Bozo the clown run their country without question now?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_mvgY9M0ws
@UnibiasBriton:disqus “I am just amused that an Italian company is questioning another countries government. How long have the Italians been letting Bozo the clown run their country without question now?” thats just an incredebly stupid argument. its like saying a mother or a father that smokes cannot tell a child not to do it since they do it themselves. its maybe those who are the best poeple to tell other about it. and “the italians have been letting” do you know anything about the mafia thats been going on? there are loads of police detectives and politicians in Italy that has been trying to get things on the clear there, but in Italy as well as in the US they get butchered. so i guess the only statement you get trough here is; yes there are idiots.
Slap, if the 9/11 conspiracy theorists had any access to demolition experts, they couldn’t have spent a decade making the claims they have about demolition. Insisting that the tops of buildings which topple into and crush every floor below them is “a classic case of controlled demolition”. Suggesting that collapses with debris streaming out all sides and wiping out other buildings for a block all around them is “falling perfectly in their own footprint”. Claiming that “pull it” refers to demoliton. Claiming that thermite is used in the demolition of buildings to produce what was seen. Claiming that you can set buildings of that size with explosives completely unnoticed.
These are all lies which survive no scrutiny, are supported by no credible references and require the complete avoidance of any and all testimony by demolition experts.
But you can claim the opposite if it makes you feel better. You can also pretend someone else “refuses to see evidence”. I can still recall laughing when reading claims that “no photographs existed of the hijackers at terminals”, taking around 4 seconds to plug those terms into google images and getting back only 12 images, 8 of which were of the hijackers. This was still then disputed by the people making the claims, reality be damned.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_mvgY9M0ws
Hahahaha…good call slap, you tell ’em. Yankees are a bunch of retards
I was raised here in the good ol’ US of A and yes, I can confirm that a 70 IQ is the new 100!
i call it an it came butterfly effect <<< next time LONDON BRIDGE <<< an yr Queen
Not trying to discredit the whole film, but as a pilot, I can assure you it’s not that hard to get some basic training, a few hours in a real simulator, and fly a plane of just about any size. In “slow flight” with full flaps, the 757 is very maneuverable. The “experienced” pilot discussing this info, is a poser. I was especially surprised that you would quote someone as an aeronautical engineer who doesn’t even understand ground-effect. It’s VERY easy to float along in ground-effect, even in a jumbo jet. Absolutely anyone who truly does any engineering involving flight knows that simple principle and even exploits it. And a Mode-C transponder set to 7700 wouldn’t be shot down, it would be assumed to be looking for an emergency landing spot like a field or the mall lawn.
I did personally hear the comment made out loud an don film though in which it was originally admitted that the fire-department “pulled” building 7. That’s pretty clear if you’ve watched them pull buildings for destruction in city re-hab project.s Too bad you guys couldn’t keep from embellishing.
So, how many 757’s have you flown twenty feet above the ground? Since it’s so easy I’m sure you’ve done it dozens of times, yes? Posers? All those ex-military with dozens of collective years of real experience are posers? What are your credentials, other than being some anonymous poster on a message board.
I would be inclined to dismiss the opinions of anyone making claims about 9/11 who had no expertise or background on these issues. But do you deny the physicists, the aviation experts, etc. If so I have to wonder why.
It’s hilarious that an experienced pilot can come in here, share knowledge about flying a b757, and basically say that it’s possible that portion of the official account is actually true – and recieve a negative vote for it.
It goes to show the mindset of conspiracy theorists. In the face of simple facts, they become indignant and cannot wait to inform you us that we are all sheep. We are fools for trusting the official story.
These “documentaries” and people who go on to cite them as factual references in discussions about the 9/11 attacks are ridiculous, pure and simple. I’ve read, watched, and listened to absolutely every bit of material I can get my hands on regarding the attacks ever since the afternoon of September 11th 2001. I have yet to see an argument from a conspiracy theorist that doesn’t make me laugh.
I gave you a thumbs up, Darrell. You’re back to zero now. As if any of this shit even matters, anyway.
“We are fools for trusting the official story.”
Yes. You are. Sorry. The most patriotic thing you can do for your country is never believe a freakin thing they tell you! Please, show me where the Founding Fathers said… “trust your gov’t”.
They, in fact, warned just the opposite. Remain vigilant of your gov’t and take care not to be blinded by the fires of partisanship. And if that doesn’t sway you…
Please, tell me when the last time we the people were told the truth about anything by either of our two parties, much less the gov’t that we didn’t find out 30 years later was complete BS…
Lastly… it’s simply a historical constant… and why the founders sought to make the seat of political power… the people. Every gov’t throughout history that has been vested with power had abused it, if not at home, then onto their neighbors… or both. Our politicians have no power, they are public servants. They are given our trust, not power. That trust, according to the founders and their wisdom derived from knowing the history and hearts of men, is to be tested at every turn… those who do not… are in fact… fools.
how do u know that Darrell is a real pilot????? Because he’s writing it???? No surprise you can believe the unbelievable!!!
I saw videos in which other experienced pilots state exactly the opposite of Darrell…the difference is that appear by face and real name
Sandy, if I were you, I would trust absolutely everything I heard as long as it’s “official.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_mvgY9M0ws
I like the tone of this film. It’s pretty factual and unspectacular, just right to show that the “truthers” aren’t all nuts. Good thing, recommended!
actually i found this documentary to be BS…
theres been other LIVE documentaries that SHOW aircraft PARTS inside the pentagon, from reports
wtc7 was sketchy on APPEARANCE, but there is HISTORY behind this
the terrorists tried to bing the SAME TOWERS DOWN in the 90s with a truck bomb..
after failing that they VOWED to do it CORRECTLY the next time, which is what 9/11 came out to be
this didnt happen overnight, also what about the PA hijacked crashing….there is RECORDINGS of PHONE calls from that plane, FROM REAL PEOPLE. REAL people did this through REAL events, REAL histories, not overnight..
although there is hidden information most likely, i think its way more simple then what everyone is guessing
The calls from the cell phones were made at an altitude of around 35000 feet and there are recordings of several of the calls made from the plane that crashed in PA. The problem with this is that cell phones technology in 2001 was not sophisticated enough to allow these calls to be made from planes at such a high altitude (only very recently is it possible to do so in 2012 but not yet implemented on commercial airlines yet but coming very soon) and therefore the recorded conversations could not have happened and are fake. One such call is from a son to his mother in which he says: “mom this is Georges Washington (fictitious name) calling you….blablabla.” When you call your mother on the phone do you identify yourself with your full name or just Georges like 100% of people do? There was no plane that crashed in PA. And if it did, do you remember reading about in the papers or watching any of the passengers who perished funerals on the news? I don’t.
Total bullshit.
No, there has not. There have, however, been people who were there who said that they never saw an aircraft. There are news clips that show that there are no remains of a plane anywhere to be found. You show me ANY video evidence of airplane wreckage, and I will humbly beg your pardon.
Care to share a link to the video that SHOWS PARTS of the alleged aircraft inside the Pentagon?
Care to share a link to the video that SHOWS PARTS of the alleged aircraft inside the Pentagon?
Care to share a link to the video that SHOWS PARTS of the alleged aircraft inside the Pentagon?
actually i found this documentary to be BS…
theres been other LIVE documentaries that SHOW aircraft PARTS inside the pentagon, from reports
wtc7 was sketchy on APPEARANCE, but there is HISTORY behind this
the terrorists tried to bing the SAME TOWERS DOWN in the 90s with a truck bomb..
after failing that they VOWED to do it CORRECTLY the next time, which is what 9/11 came out to be
this didnt happen overnight, also what about the PA hijacked crashing….there is RECORDINGS of PHONE calls from that plane, FROM REAL PEOPLE. REAL people did this through REAL events, REAL histories, not overnight..
although there is hidden information most likely, i think its way more simple then what everyone is guessing